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They'll be around 7-17 when Dec 15 rolls around, enabling other teams to trade the majority of their players, apparently needed to facilitate a Zach trade. Zach will predictably continue to wilt under his new "everyone's against me" sensitivity spotlight which he fully brought on himself, and the media outlets will continue to stoke the fire, suggesting ridiculously low value trades for him in the process to shit teams like the Lakers.

I don't think AKME will continue their former tune; I think in the past they've typically taken what the media has given them as far as baked in excuses and narratives (Lonzo injury, continuity, the idea that being competitive is better than any form of rebuilding...) Thus this time, if AK brings back horrible returns for Zach et al, he has nothing else to do than just read the headlines and say they were in a low leverage spot where Zach could only yield historically bad trade value. Point being: Local media needs to hold the ownership accountable and to a higher standard, to in turn set that expectation with the fans, if we expect AKME to ever hold themselves to any loftier standards. Otherwise AKME will take the easy narrative every time.

What AK should get, at minimum: 2 1st's for Zach or a 1st and a young promising player, a 1st and youngish role player for Caruso, a 1st or a promising young player for DeMar, and the ability to get out of the Vuc contract by packaging him with another deal possibly in return for an expiring big like Valunciunas. In addition to those bare minimumum expectations, they should try to get back as much expiring contracts as possible for salary matches, and keep all their current young players looking to see what they have down the stretch (Pat Williams, your table is ready).

There's no reason we can't be like last seasons Spurs or Rockets, positioned well for the future, if AK actually performs how they should this trade season. There's plenty of desparate teams out there to take advantage of; get our heads out of the ESPN narratives and it's easy to see

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I don't know if this helps, but I've been doing quite a bit of reading on time travel and without getting too deep in the weeds on specialized language or theoretical definitions, there's some hope. I'll either report back later or things will appear fixed that we didn't even know were broken before. It's all rather hard to explain without diagrams or a small whiteboard. (Mom, If you are reading this, I am back safely and you don't need to worry anymore.)

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Acne needs to fire Donny and ask Rich Paul who Zach would like installed as his immediate replacement. I mean, he’s our superstar fer chrissakes!

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Klutch is known for one thing and that thing is creating constellations of players and making it happen and it's been "reported" by ShamPravda that they've decided Zach LaVine is the 3rd guy to play with LeBron and Anthony Davis. That's Plan A and I assume they are going to exhaust every possibility to make that happen. It's not an ideal situation for a trade but that's what they want and they probably have fascinating powerpoints illustrating the fucking synergies and shit. So nothing is going to happen for awhile, and the Lakers will put out the minimal offer two months from now, and this is likely to go on because by nature these groups of contenders almost never have what a rebuilding team would want and they really don't.

There's probably a higher than normal chance that the Bulls freelance here, because Reinsdorf has his own ideas and has stepped into block trades multiple times. The very idea of going along with a player's wishes with a binding contract in hand is quite distasteful for him, and when they've done it in the past (Scottie Pippen) they've basically held a fucking parade to honor their own altruism. At that point it didn't matter and sign'n'trades were brand new and the idea of getting anything for a FA was pretty cool.

If THAT happens, seems like Zach probably won't be going to Miami or some other contender with assets of limited interest to a team starting over (and increasing their operating profit for the next 3 years.) If the Bulls go rogue vs Klutch's master plan, it'll be to somewhere Klutch never wanted him to play, even from his list of safety schools.

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Nov 21, 2023Liked by your friendly BullsBlogger

i don’t expect them to be creative in pulling the levers at their disposal to find a way to get a good return in a trade, because they are incapable. but i do expect them to be creative in finding new ways to embarrass themselves and piss of klutch and like, maybe even lebron

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Further logic which AK should use in so far as he decides to reset this veteran core. Order does matter...

- Caruso is the easiest to trade and others being traded before him really doesn't affect his value. Therefore he is the trump card and should be traded last, or in an emergency

- Vuc is the hardest to trade as he has the least suitors, so he should be traded asap but will likely need to be thrown in with another player. He should be traded at earliest possibility and every trade discussion should have Vuc thrown in there just to see if we can get away with it

- Zach should be traded first for obvious reasons, but not so early that it's for a bag of peanuts. Must maintain the longview here; this season will end up being about playing Pat, Coby, Ayo, and Phillips heavy minutes later on. It doesn't matter if Zach ruins any supposed "team chemistry" between now and then, those dudes will quickly forget Zach existed. Zach also should be traded early if we plan on using the Jrue Holiday, "re-trade the gained assets" strategy

- DDR also can probably be traded any time and to a team that needs clutch scoring at any cost. His value does not depend on anyone elses, in fact it might go up after Zach leaves cause he'll just score 30 a game

- Torey Craig and Jevon Carter are also good sweeteners on a trade to any contender, and don't factor at all into our rebuild

- Try not to trade any of Pat, Coby, Ayo, and Phillips. We won't get reasonable value back

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Nov 21, 2023Liked by your friendly BullsBlogger

It's good that AKME don't know how to do their job, because reading (and making) this ironic criticism of them has become a real necessity for me. I can't spend a day without reading some bulls fans crapping on the direction and decisions (not) made.

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LaVine hit the injury report for tomorrow, probable with a foot sprain

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Spurs looking for "leadership." Can we trade Demar back there?

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Why would any team pay 2 1sts for LaVine?

This is a serious question. I mean 1st round picks are not all equal so maybe you can get 2 highly protected picks that may or may not convey.

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Nov 23, 2023Liked by your friendly BullsBlogger

Fun with stats: offensive fouls (charges, perimeter, etc) drawn this season, the last two seasons and career: https://i.imgur.com/VzCu7tf.png

Alex Caruso is good but actually more impressive is that he's incredibly consistent. Kind of amazing to see so little fluctuation by year.

Did this mainly to measure Coby White, who is spending an awful lot amount of time on the floor. Not surprisingly, Coby White is doing this at a phenomenal, and probably league-leading rate. Yet he was always at least average, which you wouldn't have guessed. This is feeding into my theory that Coby, though seen as a krazy kid with krazy hair, is actually a really smart player and one that is learning.

If an offensive foul is committed in the vicinity of Zach and Vuc, it's probably a coincidence. (Zach has drawn exactly 1 charge in his entire career.)

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Rumor today no Heat pursuit of LaVine

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/11/heat-not-pursuing-zach-lavine.html#ref=home

It brings to mind something I wasn't emphasizing even as being on the pessimistic side of speculating a Zach market: since the Bulls won't go into the tax, the receiving team will be taking on more salary and probably in the tax already themselves. There's no calculation of how much more tax Miami pays after adding Zach but it's significant

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Nov 25, 2023·edited Nov 25, 2023Liked by your friendly BullsBlogger

These are crazy times. Nobody even suggests an outcome that is different anymore, and few people believe there's some kind of new configuration of players and line-ups that would make any kind of difference. More Jevon Carter? Yeah okay, whatever.

When people claimed that "basketball hell" was having a fun and hard-nosed team that "only" made the playoffs every year, show them this. The Bulls are 29th in points, 30th in assists, 26th in rebounding. It's actually harder to find anything they're good at! They're behind teams that are intentionally trying to lose. Not a few of them. They're behind all of them. And those teams are actually playing their young, long-shot players. Donovan has played Bitim, Phillips, Terry and Taylor a combined 30 minutes in 16 games.

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Okay but what the fuck is Scottie Barnes doing here?

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1728249684039241922

Why is no one punching him in his adult-baby looking face?

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"[Jordan] Poole is a bit of an outlier in terms of generating free throws. Among NBA players with at least 220 field goal attempts this season, only Nikola Vucevic of the Bulls (30 FTA) has taken fewer free throw attempts than Poole’s 41."

Woohoo, first!

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