My "never-gnna-happen-cuz-the-world-hates-me" miracle for today is that the bulls trade Zach lavine for the 2nd overall. It's a huge risk move for the Bulls, but it's the best one basketball wise:
Scenario 1 - scoot sucks from day 1. No problem. Bulls go into firesale mode at the deadline with Vuc, Derozan, and Drummond and focus on development for the next few years. It sucks, but youve at least started your rebuild with some potential.
Scenario 2 - scoot is good but bulls suck. Really the same as the previous scenario just with a lot more hope!
Scenario 3 - scoot is good and bulls are good. You have some assets to play with for a big splash at the deadline if you're feeling up to it, but even if u do nothing fans are happy. There's hope and you're competing, let's worry about roster next year.
Why the hornets do it.... Cuz Jordan has the chance to save Chicago one last time dammit! Er.... I mean gotta show lamelo Charlotte is serious about building a winner right, and miller isnt that guy and scoot don't fit. But lavine next to ball would look fly
Someone send Michael that clip of Zach scoring like 11 straight or whatever it was to beat the Hornets a few years ago. That could be yours, MJ!! Give us Scoot!
If CHA is giving up the #2 overall pick for Lavine, it would mean they are looking to win now. I don't think Lavine alone is worth that pick so we'd really to make it worth their while.
Zach+S&T Vucevic ($~20mil/yr)+2nds ...for... Gordon (expiring) + Rozier ($24mil for 3 more seasons)
*If we can't get a Vucevic deal done, then we'd have to replace him with Caruso.
I've been hearing that the draft is kind of weak outside the top 3 but haven't really dug in. Kobe Bufkin does look intriguing but obviously no way the Bulls move into the lottery at this point without a major trade, which I highly doubt happens.
I'm personally in the camp of giving this team one more go. As long as you don't give Vuc a crazy contract, you can do the same teardown next year. I get the arguments to be bad earlier so the 2024 pick is a lottery pick but I see a rebuild as probably a 4-7 year project. If the Bulls managed to get a real large wing who can shoot with the MLE and Donovan took some of the obvious restrictions off of Coby White a bit and let him start, I'd like to see a playoff run befofe being really bad for 5 years. I'm not in the camp that the Bulls could have matched what the Heat did but I do think the league has far more parity and a fun run is possible. Call me overly optimistic. Just my view.
A couple questions. First, what is a reasonable Vooch contract in your opinion? Second, wouldn't it be harder to start a rebuild next year when DeRozan's contract is up? He's one of our bigger assets at the moment.
I don't think you would get more than like a young player on a fair but large contract who probably wont stick around in 2-3 years in a rebuilding team like the Bulls and a back end 1st for DDR. Is that really doing anything for your rebuild in 5 years? Maybe. Doubtful really. Is that better than a chance at a fun run? Not in my view.
Vuc was a 3.2 VORP and 19.1 PER player. That was actually really good. And despite all of the criticism, he was actually rated as a positive defender by DBPM. He'll be 33 in October. I don't want to give him a 3 year contract but he's earned someone giving him an extra year where he probably will be hurt and far less effective. So he'll be an expiring, maybe you flip him in 2 years, probably not. 3 years $60-$65M is probably going rate. Gotta use cap space anyways while rebuilding so I'm fine with overpaying him when the team is likely terrible in a year.
Who really wants to give him 3/60-65MIL though. Who, outside Chicago, has this as going rate? Who, outside Chicago because optics, or whatever, really wants him at more than MLE? I don't think it's any of the teams with available cap. That leaves a possible S&T, but for what, exactly?
No idea who else would be interested in him mostly because I think the consensus is he isn't shopping right now. 3.2 VORP is solid. He's been really durable, though yes, he's turning into his mid 30s. I would be surprised if he didn't have a market.
League announced yesterday the cap is going up 10%. Have to keep in mind that is going to affect the market values here a bit.
I don't see him only getting the MLE. That seems low for what he showed last year. 3.2 VORP ranked him 26th in the league and top 50 for PER. Do I think he's the 26th best player in the league or even top 50? Absolutely not. But is he still really good? Advanced stats point to yes. Those players don't take the MLE.
I agree that he's not going to *want* to take it. So, he'll have to find a buyer out of a handful of teams with available cap, all rebuilding, ranging from the Rockets to the Spurs to the Magic. And I'd invite him to do that. I'd even give him instructions on how to do it.
If the Bulls give this roster more play, I won't be watching next season. And I don't say that as an indignant or angry person whose fandom is a lit fuse or something. This assembly is flatly boring though. Really, really, flatly boring hemmed in by some crystal clear limitations.
I wouldn't even call it NBA hell, because with all the weeping and gnashing of teeth inside of endless, conscience torment, I could find something to do in hell, I think. Like, die a new death every day. But inside of AKME's dimly-lit NBA purgatory, I feel like Tommy Pickles in that one Rugrats episode where he's pushing large stacks of paper around a blank-canvas room in service of What The Big People Do. This team is turning into a game of Pong you can neither quit nor win.
If a rebuild is one of your priors, and it should be for anyone who contemplates how largely available LaVine, DDR, and Vucevic were at the same time last year, then how much temporary, purgatorial languor is enough? How many Vucevic trail threes must clang, like symbols? How often must Coby White lose track of his feet near the side baseline, leaving the other team with the ball? How many late-game, late shot-clock fire bombs must Zach LaVine catapult for this scene--which is as predictable as oncoming death--to complete itself?
God, my biggest want is that they don’t re-sign Vucevic, even at an “okay” price. Spend the money elsewhere. He is the worst of the “Big 3,” but somehow it seems the Bulls its followers, think he “needs” to be re-signed and the two other actually good players are the ones being bandied about in trades for this draft.
It makes no sense to re-sign an aging not-great player only to trade away better players to start a rebuild.
So, in one sense, I hope they trade LaVine or DeRozan for a top pick, and I hope they don’t sign Vucevic and really go into the rebuild with a stud player.
But I know they won’t, so at least I won’t be disappointed.
it is insane to me, like their constant fluffing of Vuc has incepted the media into thinking he's that important. On The Score they're always lamenting an old mid-range player who's bad at defense and should be traded...and they mean DeMar! who's actually good!
I had written a previous comment that got lost, and I forgot to include this: Kevin Pelton did his SCHONE free agent projections and Vucevic wasn’t even Top 25.
Even if they signed him to a 3-year/$30 million deal (which they won’t), I’d still say that money could be better spent elsewhere, as in, on players who look like they might actually get better over the life of the contract. Not get worse.
For perspective, on most top NBA player rankings Zach is somewhere around 45-50 range that I see now, and we're paying him $43M/ year. I don't think Vuc for 3 years/ $30M is that bad in a vacuum, though if you trade Zach or DDR you obviously shouldn't re-sign Vuc at any cost
I think Vuc is “worth” about $10/year, if still an overpay, but he needs to be next to a PF that will make up for his shortcomings. JJJ would cover his defense without clogging the lane on offense. Myles Turner, too. Rim-protecting 3 & D mobile bigs. The Bulls don’t have that.
Just like I could see San Antonio bringing in White to help bring immediate decent-ness, I could see San Antonio doing the same w/ Vucevic, for the right price.
I could see them bringing in veteran players to help stabilize their core wing players with Wembanyama, and moving on and making changes in 2 years if they aren’t see excellent progress.
This is the offseason I originally thought AKME was targeting for major moves. Their lack of movement in replacing Lonzo at the trade deadline soured me on that, but I still have some faint hope.
If they don't start making moves today, 90% of that last remaining hope will be gone. If they don't get at least a good PG this summer, all my faith in AKME will be gone.
If they get a good to great PG today without mortgaging the future, I will be cautiously optimistic.
They don't have any assets to acquire a single 2nd (outside of a much bigger trade) and they haven't ever bought one before so why would we expect them to buy one now?
1. We know the value of our guys, we like our guys.
2. After all due diligence, no suitable deals were there to be made. But that's okay, because--
3. Strong finish last year.
4. Cite Defensive Rating.
5. Cite Hope for Lonzo.
6. Mention being very close to the playoffs and losing to a Miami team that almost won the championship as evidence as to why Chicago basically almost won the championship too.
lol "the front office IS working today" cracked me up, I kept thinking about Bill Lumbergh calling Arturas Karnisovas and leaving messages on his answering machine:
"Yeahhhh hi it's Bill Lumbergh at the Chicago Bulls again. Yeah just wanted to remind you we ARE working a full day today. It's not half-day or anything. So... yeahhhhh if you could get here just as soon as possible that'd be great. Thaaaaanks."
Since it appears like we're going to going into next season with the same guys, how about a Lonzo+POR 1st+2nd Rounders ...for... S&T Kuzma ($20mil/yr) + one of their PGs (Morris or Wright)?
I don't think WAS cares 'winning the trade', just as long as they get something.
Dunno, it turns out the Wizards are getting a lot of something from Phoenix:
"Washington and Phoenix have finalized the Bradley Beal trade, landing the Wizards six second-round draft picks and four first-round pick swaps, sources tell ESPN. Suns are sending seconds in 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028 and 2030. Pick swaps in 2024, 2026, 2028 and 2030."
At first I thought whatever... but six 2nds is a lot of lottery tickets. One of those, minimum, should be a rotation player and possibly more.
As far as the pick swaps, Durant will be 36, 38, 40 and 42 when when the swaps happen. I would absolutely take those given the inherent volatility of Durant and the Suns.
Everyone should apologize, they squeezed blood from a fucking stone here.
also, they're getting more from this Beal trade by routing Chris Paul to another team. They're technically different trades (because one has to be done before new league year, another after) but it's all one big return.
That is far better than initially reported, I'll admit. A couple of those pick swaps will be clutch... Trade reporting this year has not been very accurate thus far
I really like this idea though Bulls need to send more salary, especially since I see a Kuzma extension being more like $30M. Maybe include Patrick Williams, and then Bulls keep the picks?
I was thinking his price range would be something around $20-25mil, but if he can command $30mil then he's probably out of our price range. If we still needed to add salary, I guess we could always do the Keith Bogans and add Drummond or DDJ on a $10mil/1yr S&T
Can someone try responding this Substack chat tool? It suggests it requires the app but I don't think that's technically true, you can also access from browser:
I can’t believe AK might have another press conference to talk about doing nothing. His second one this year!
It’s an insane concept. It’s like Apple hosting a keynote to announce they aren’t launching any new products.
“We explored the possibility of designing a new iPhone, but the right hardware wasn’t available. We like our current line of products. We don’t have any news regarding when the bugs in our last iOS will be fixed.”
Really good draft too. It'll probably be similar to 2018 when there are several really great players.
Obviously Wembanyama, but I can't decide if I would rather have Scoot or Amen Thompson. I think both of them are close to can't miss stars. The downside for Scoot is like DeAaron Fox (still really good, just not immediately good). Amen could be a Pippen type guy. He really does seem like the biggest athletic freak + PG vision player in... well, a really long time. Just can't shoot. Yet?
The guy who's going to be this year's Marvin Bagley or Ayton or Kevin Knox?
Cam Whitmore - Dude absolutely can't dribble. Reminds me of Justin Anderson.
Brandon Miller... I think Ayton is a good comparison there. Skilled and looks the part, but I don't think he's actually an above average athlete. He'll be fine, but I'd rather take a chance on Scoot or Amen.
Jarace Walker or Taylor Hendricks I think will both be really good pros.
I'd pick Gradey Dick over Black or Ausar Thompson. Dick moves great off the ball, he's gonna be like a bigger Reddick, or maybe Klay or Korver type guy. Also Cason Wallace. Black and Thompson seem like tweener guards who can't really shoot.
Later in the draft, I really like Podziemski, Leonard Miller and Trayce Jackson-Davis. Maybe like Hood-Schifino, Sensabaugh, Jett Howard, and Maxwell Lewis.
Lots of guys who will go late where we could get a pick (but won't) that could be really good
My "never-gnna-happen-cuz-the-world-hates-me" miracle for today is that the bulls trade Zach lavine for the 2nd overall. It's a huge risk move for the Bulls, but it's the best one basketball wise:
Scenario 1 - scoot sucks from day 1. No problem. Bulls go into firesale mode at the deadline with Vuc, Derozan, and Drummond and focus on development for the next few years. It sucks, but youve at least started your rebuild with some potential.
Scenario 2 - scoot is good but bulls suck. Really the same as the previous scenario just with a lot more hope!
Scenario 3 - scoot is good and bulls are good. You have some assets to play with for a big splash at the deadline if you're feeling up to it, but even if u do nothing fans are happy. There's hope and you're competing, let's worry about roster next year.
Why the hornets do it.... Cuz Jordan has the chance to save Chicago one last time dammit! Er.... I mean gotta show lamelo Charlotte is serious about building a winner right, and miller isnt that guy and scoot don't fit. But lavine next to ball would look fly
Along those lines, I'm trying to will "DeMar for #3" into existence.
Lets keep Demar
Unfortunately that will NEVER happen.
Someone send Michael that clip of Zach scoring like 11 straight or whatever it was to beat the Hornets a few years ago. That could be yours, MJ!! Give us Scoot!
and have, like @DaNBAMemez, photoshop LaVine in a UNC jersey
If only Zach hadn't signed that New Balance deal last season. He could have been a Jordan spokesperson...
Or trade Zach for Lamelo.
Yay, another injury prone point guard!!
between the Ball brothers and Joakim Noah, Bulls will have cornered the market on players injured due to wearing non-major sneaker brands
Don't rain on my plan to sell "The Bulls have Balls" tees outside of the UC.
Okay, that is pretty brilliant!
Stay in yo lane
But why?...
If CHA is giving up the #2 overall pick for Lavine, it would mean they are looking to win now. I don't think Lavine alone is worth that pick so we'd really to make it worth their while.
Zach+S&T Vucevic ($~20mil/yr)+2nds ...for... Gordon (expiring) + Rozier ($24mil for 3 more seasons)
*If we can't get a Vucevic deal done, then we'd have to replace him with Caruso.
I've been hearing that the draft is kind of weak outside the top 3 but haven't really dug in. Kobe Bufkin does look intriguing but obviously no way the Bulls move into the lottery at this point without a major trade, which I highly doubt happens.
I'm personally in the camp of giving this team one more go. As long as you don't give Vuc a crazy contract, you can do the same teardown next year. I get the arguments to be bad earlier so the 2024 pick is a lottery pick but I see a rebuild as probably a 4-7 year project. If the Bulls managed to get a real large wing who can shoot with the MLE and Donovan took some of the obvious restrictions off of Coby White a bit and let him start, I'd like to see a playoff run befofe being really bad for 5 years. I'm not in the camp that the Bulls could have matched what the Heat did but I do think the league has far more parity and a fun run is possible. Call me overly optimistic. Just my view.
A couple questions. First, what is a reasonable Vooch contract in your opinion? Second, wouldn't it be harder to start a rebuild next year when DeRozan's contract is up? He's one of our bigger assets at the moment.
I don't think you would get more than like a young player on a fair but large contract who probably wont stick around in 2-3 years in a rebuilding team like the Bulls and a back end 1st for DDR. Is that really doing anything for your rebuild in 5 years? Maybe. Doubtful really. Is that better than a chance at a fun run? Not in my view.
Vuc was a 3.2 VORP and 19.1 PER player. That was actually really good. And despite all of the criticism, he was actually rated as a positive defender by DBPM. He'll be 33 in October. I don't want to give him a 3 year contract but he's earned someone giving him an extra year where he probably will be hurt and far less effective. So he'll be an expiring, maybe you flip him in 2 years, probably not. 3 years $60-$65M is probably going rate. Gotta use cap space anyways while rebuilding so I'm fine with overpaying him when the team is likely terrible in a year.
Who really wants to give him 3/60-65MIL though. Who, outside Chicago, has this as going rate? Who, outside Chicago because optics, or whatever, really wants him at more than MLE? I don't think it's any of the teams with available cap. That leaves a possible S&T, but for what, exactly?
No idea who else would be interested in him mostly because I think the consensus is he isn't shopping right now. 3.2 VORP is solid. He's been really durable, though yes, he's turning into his mid 30s. I would be surprised if he didn't have a market.
League announced yesterday the cap is going up 10%. Have to keep in mind that is going to affect the market values here a bit.
I don't see him only getting the MLE. That seems low for what he showed last year. 3.2 VORP ranked him 26th in the league and top 50 for PER. Do I think he's the 26th best player in the league or even top 50? Absolutely not. But is he still really good? Advanced stats point to yes. Those players don't take the MLE.
I agree that he's not going to *want* to take it. So, he'll have to find a buyer out of a handful of teams with available cap, all rebuilding, ranging from the Rockets to the Spurs to the Magic. And I'd invite him to do that. I'd even give him instructions on how to do it.
By most accounts there are 7 teams that could put together enough cap space to fit in a contract that begins at $20 million:
1. Houston
2. Utah
3. San Antonio
4. Oklahoma City
5. Detroit
6. Indiana
7. Orlando
Definite No: Houston, Utah, San Antonio, Orlando
idk maybe stranger things have happened: Oklahoma City, Detroit, Indiana
I would print out TripAdvisor's TOP TEN THINGS TO DO in any of those cities and tape it on top of my 12MIL dollar offer.
I don't even like the MLE for him on this team, anyway. But 20MIL here is insane to me if your goal is anything but building an expensive loser.
If the Bulls give this roster more play, I won't be watching next season. And I don't say that as an indignant or angry person whose fandom is a lit fuse or something. This assembly is flatly boring though. Really, really, flatly boring hemmed in by some crystal clear limitations.
I wouldn't even call it NBA hell, because with all the weeping and gnashing of teeth inside of endless, conscience torment, I could find something to do in hell, I think. Like, die a new death every day. But inside of AKME's dimly-lit NBA purgatory, I feel like Tommy Pickles in that one Rugrats episode where he's pushing large stacks of paper around a blank-canvas room in service of What The Big People Do. This team is turning into a game of Pong you can neither quit nor win.
If a rebuild is one of your priors, and it should be for anyone who contemplates how largely available LaVine, DDR, and Vucevic were at the same time last year, then how much temporary, purgatorial languor is enough? How many Vucevic trail threes must clang, like symbols? How often must Coby White lose track of his feet near the side baseline, leaving the other team with the ball? How many late-game, late shot-clock fire bombs must Zach LaVine catapult for this scene--which is as predictable as oncoming death--to complete itself?
God, my biggest want is that they don’t re-sign Vucevic, even at an “okay” price. Spend the money elsewhere. He is the worst of the “Big 3,” but somehow it seems the Bulls its followers, think he “needs” to be re-signed and the two other actually good players are the ones being bandied about in trades for this draft.
It makes no sense to re-sign an aging not-great player only to trade away better players to start a rebuild.
So, in one sense, I hope they trade LaVine or DeRozan for a top pick, and I hope they don’t sign Vucevic and really go into the rebuild with a stud player.
But I know they won’t, so at least I won’t be disappointed.
I think the best case scenario would be trading Zach and/or DeMar and then sign-and-trading Vooch. But as you know, we know that won't happen.
it is insane to me, like their constant fluffing of Vuc has incepted the media into thinking he's that important. On The Score they're always lamenting an old mid-range player who's bad at defense and should be traded...and they mean DeMar! who's actually good!
fucking I don't know why I bothered, but this is verbatim on The Score today:
Bernstein: [trading DeRozan] is not about what you get back, it's about what you can grow into without that lead blanket on top of your offense
Spiegel: empower Vuc, and let it be about Vuc and Zach
YeAh lEts EmPoWeR pLaYeRs tHaT aReNt EvEn ToP 40 pLaYErS iN tHe LeAgUe!!!
I had written a previous comment that got lost, and I forgot to include this: Kevin Pelton did his SCHONE free agent projections and Vucevic wasn’t even Top 25.
Even if they signed him to a 3-year/$30 million deal (which they won’t), I’d still say that money could be better spent elsewhere, as in, on players who look like they might actually get better over the life of the contract. Not get worse.
(Naz Reid was at 22)
For perspective, on most top NBA player rankings Zach is somewhere around 45-50 range that I see now, and we're paying him $43M/ year. I don't think Vuc for 3 years/ $30M is that bad in a vacuum, though if you trade Zach or DDR you obviously shouldn't re-sign Vuc at any cost
I think Vuc is “worth” about $10/year, if still an overpay, but he needs to be next to a PF that will make up for his shortcomings. JJJ would cover his defense without clogging the lane on offense. Myles Turner, too. Rim-protecting 3 & D mobile bigs. The Bulls don’t have that.
Just like I could see San Antonio bringing in White to help bring immediate decent-ness, I could see San Antonio doing the same w/ Vucevic, for the right price.
I could see them bringing in veteran players to help stabilize their core wing players with Wembanyama, and moving on and making changes in 2 years if they aren’t see excellent progress.
This is the offseason I originally thought AKME was targeting for major moves. Their lack of movement in replacing Lonzo at the trade deadline soured me on that, but I still have some faint hope.
If they don't start making moves today, 90% of that last remaining hope will be gone. If they don't get at least a good PG this summer, all my faith in AKME will be gone.
If they get a good to great PG today without mortgaging the future, I will be cautiously optimistic.
Over/Under: 40th Pick - They wrap up their night with their draft press conference
reminder from https://twitter.com/Will_Gottlieb
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Bulls should be targeting a pick in the 2nd rd from one of the teams that have multiple
Hornets: 34, 39, 41
Nuggets: 32, 37
Spurs: 33, 44
Pacers: 40, 47, 55
Kings: 38, 54
Bulls have already forfeited 57. They can make a selection in the 2nd if they acquire a pick
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They don't have any assets to acquire a single 2nd (outside of a much bigger trade) and they haven't ever bought one before so why would we expect them to buy one now?
https://twitter.com/tonyreast/status/1671929246841815042?s=46&t=KU--HDaqI7i1VHiWSiKSEQ
Lakers just paid $4.35mil to move from #47 to #40. No way our Organization buys any 2nd Rounder unless it's at the very end
God damn! That is actually a lot of money.
But, more power to them.
maybe the Bulls put the 2017 2nd round sale money in a savings account for just this occasion
"These Juicero stocks should be coming to fruition right about ... Damn!"
"I'm juiced and jacked."
--Jim Boylen
Talking points for tonight's press avail:
1. We know the value of our guys, we like our guys.
2. After all due diligence, no suitable deals were there to be made. But that's okay, because--
3. Strong finish last year.
4. Cite Defensive Rating.
5. Cite Hope for Lonzo.
6. Mention being very close to the playoffs and losing to a Miami team that almost won the championship as evidence as to why Chicago basically almost won the championship too.
7. If you look at NBA history, not a lot of great, consequential moves are made on draft day.
nailed it! At least 5 of these bullet points will be used in some form.
lol "the front office IS working today" cracked me up, I kept thinking about Bill Lumbergh calling Arturas Karnisovas and leaving messages on his answering machine:
"Yeahhhh hi it's Bill Lumbergh at the Chicago Bulls again. Yeah just wanted to remind you we ARE working a full day today. It's not half-day or anything. So... yeahhhhh if you could get here just as soon as possible that'd be great. Thaaaaanks."
UNRELATED: Jordan Poole is going to shoot fifty times per game next year.
RELATED to the UNRELATED: Other members of the Warriors hate Jordan Poole only slightly less than Draymond Green.
I like this trade though for Washington.
Poole is chucker and plays no "D". Still young but needs to grow up.
Tell me! I do not want to google it.
Poole to WASH for CP3. If they can talk Rasheed Wallace out of retirement for their C spot, GSW become my all-time favorite old man team.
Poole + Protected 2030 1st + 2nd Rounder ...for... CP3
Since it appears like we're going to going into next season with the same guys, how about a Lonzo+POR 1st+2nd Rounders ...for... S&T Kuzma ($20mil/yr) + one of their PGs (Morris or Wright)?
I don't think WAS cares 'winning the trade', just as long as they get something.
Dunno, it turns out the Wizards are getting a lot of something from Phoenix:
"Washington and Phoenix have finalized the Bradley Beal trade, landing the Wizards six second-round draft picks and four first-round pick swaps, sources tell ESPN. Suns are sending seconds in 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028 and 2030. Pick swaps in 2024, 2026, 2028 and 2030."
At first I thought whatever... but six 2nds is a lot of lottery tickets. One of those, minimum, should be a rotation player and possibly more.
As far as the pick swaps, Durant will be 36, 38, 40 and 42 when when the swaps happen. I would absolutely take those given the inherent volatility of Durant and the Suns.
Everyone should apologize, they squeezed blood from a fucking stone here.
also, they're getting more from this Beal trade by routing Chris Paul to another team. They're technically different trades (because one has to be done before new league year, another after) but it's all one big return.
six seconds, holy Garpax
That is far better than initially reported, I'll admit. A couple of those pick swaps will be clutch... Trade reporting this year has not been very accurate thus far
I really like this idea though Bulls need to send more salary, especially since I see a Kuzma extension being more like $30M. Maybe include Patrick Williams, and then Bulls keep the picks?
I was thinking his price range would be something around $20-25mil, but if he can command $30mil then he's probably out of our price range. If we still needed to add salary, I guess we could always do the Keith Bogans and add Drummond or DDJ on a $10mil/1yr S&T
Can someone try responding this Substack chat tool? It suggests it requires the app but I don't think that's technically true, you can also access from browser:
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I think it would go better than a comment thread for tonight
This is great.
I can’t believe AK might have another press conference to talk about doing nothing. His second one this year!
It’s an insane concept. It’s like Apple hosting a keynote to announce they aren’t launching any new products.
“We explored the possibility of designing a new iPhone, but the right hardware wasn’t available. We like our current line of products. We don’t have any news regarding when the bugs in our last iOS will be fixed.”
If Jerry Reinsdorf approved buying a 1st round draft pick. I think I would literally faint.
Bulls ain't doing shit!
Really good draft too. It'll probably be similar to 2018 when there are several really great players.
Obviously Wembanyama, but I can't decide if I would rather have Scoot or Amen Thompson. I think both of them are close to can't miss stars. The downside for Scoot is like DeAaron Fox (still really good, just not immediately good). Amen could be a Pippen type guy. He really does seem like the biggest athletic freak + PG vision player in... well, a really long time. Just can't shoot. Yet?
The guy who's going to be this year's Marvin Bagley or Ayton or Kevin Knox?
Cam Whitmore - Dude absolutely can't dribble. Reminds me of Justin Anderson.
Brandon Miller... I think Ayton is a good comparison there. Skilled and looks the part, but I don't think he's actually an above average athlete. He'll be fine, but I'd rather take a chance on Scoot or Amen.
Jarace Walker or Taylor Hendricks I think will both be really good pros.
I'd pick Gradey Dick over Black or Ausar Thompson. Dick moves great off the ball, he's gonna be like a bigger Reddick, or maybe Klay or Korver type guy. Also Cason Wallace. Black and Thompson seem like tweener guards who can't really shoot.
Later in the draft, I really like Podziemski, Leonard Miller and Trayce Jackson-Davis. Maybe like Hood-Schifino, Sensabaugh, Jett Howard, and Maxwell Lewis.
Lots of guys who will go late where we could get a pick (but won't) that could be really good
The NBA Draft CHAT is live!
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I was partially wrong, you do need the app if on mobile. But on a desktop can use web browser.