It's important to counter and not let this FO get away with the idea that this team doesn't have assets to trade and who would they trade for anyway? They have all their picks and swaps, which alone is all a good GM needs to operate. They ALSO have some interesting young players on reasonable contracts and/extensions to trade or add to. Two $20M contracts to be aggregated, one expiring. And Josh Giddey. More than enough for a front office to be a 'player'.
It conflicts with their 'tread water at the East Play-In tier of competitiveness' strategy, but the return for Bane has to have you gauging the market on your guys. White should be worth a bunch. Ayo should have real value.
Since the current Bulls are so very uninteresting, I’m spending my basketball free time on other pursuits. Right now I’m looking at how the Bulls could have rebuilt after the dynasty ended after the ’98 season and the all rookie teams from 2000-2020 to see if if there were any players that didn’t make those teams who later became stars.
FWIW, @KCJHoop said on the By the Horns podcast that AK's extension goes through 27/28 season. Also said, ownership believes that AK hit on his first roster build and that he is 1 for 1 on rebuilds so far. 😂😂😂
I wish he'd expound on that. What do they mean 1 for 1? AK's first rebuild was specifically billed as an attempt to compete for championships and got nowhere near that. What did he succeed at??
I listened to it, it's even worse with context. KC starts by saying 'this is ownership don't shoot the messenger' but then agrees with it and does more cover for AK knowing him 'behind the scenes a bit'. The co-host compared AK to Michael Corleone in his stealthy deal making
It's my own fault, it's the organization paid for podcast I shouldn't expect anything else
why couldnt today be like what happened in the NBA yesterday. The longtime LA Lakers owners, Buss family, sell the team. How exciting would it be to read the headlines of "Reinsdorf family sells the Chicago Bulls franchise".
I'd also not show up for post-draft media appearances if I'd had 5 drafts and traded away 2 of my FRPs for Vooch and used the rest on Pat Williams, Dalen Terry, and Matas (though I'm sure there's an opportunity for premature self-congratulations on Matas).
Funny thing about that is that literally any casual fan in America could have made that pick, just based upon mock draft intel. Which is probably the entirety of the intel the Bulls had on a kid from the Chicago suburbs.
Take a chill pill! Whether you are a fan (or not) it might help to wait to blow your top (or other orifice) until we see what happens with what direction the team is moving toward and what .moves will be made. Until then Chill out!!!
If 5 years into this regime's tenure the fans are still being asked to wait to see what direction management is moving towards, then fan patience is not the issue.
If they stink this season because of bad choices, I'm not watching them until they sell the team to an owner that wants a winning team a little more than just an investment.
Art should not be the final say on who gets extended contracts if you are trying save money and make the right choices for a young team. I'm just a fan and know more about the team than he does. He gave away Demar De Rozen. Traded Alex Caruso for a guy that can't defend, can't shoot but he can pass the ball well. What would possess him to give Patrick Williams an unwarranted extended contract and why did he do the same with Lonzo Ball knowing that Ball is very fragile and has not shown any improvement in his game since he came back? Because of that move, we have to let go a solid game winning backup point guard who will probably go to an opposing team and will do well. Art is still holding on to Vuce who wants to be a wing and does not defend the rim. Doesn't Art watch any of the games? He is costing the Bulls organization more than Lavine did. I wonder if he is the one that gave Lavine such a massive contract? Maybe Art is related to the Reinsdorfs.
Appreciate the reminder. I'm now back to my corn flakes.
It's important to counter and not let this FO get away with the idea that this team doesn't have assets to trade and who would they trade for anyway? They have all their picks and swaps, which alone is all a good GM needs to operate. They ALSO have some interesting young players on reasonable contracts and/extensions to trade or add to. Two $20M contracts to be aggregated, one expiring. And Josh Giddey. More than enough for a front office to be a 'player'.
It conflicts with their 'tread water at the East Play-In tier of competitiveness' strategy, but the return for Bane has to have you gauging the market on your guys. White should be worth a bunch. Ayo should have real value.
Since the current Bulls are so very uninteresting, I’m spending my basketball free time on other pursuits. Right now I’m looking at how the Bulls could have rebuilt after the dynasty ended after the ’98 season and the all rookie teams from 2000-2020 to see if if there were any players that didn’t make those teams who later became stars.
@Doug_Thonus
FWIW, @KCJHoop said on the By the Horns podcast that AK's extension goes through 27/28 season. Also said, ownership believes that AK hit on his first roster build and that he is 1 for 1 on rebuilds so far. 😂😂😂
Holy shit, Michael Reinsdorf might be the dumbest owner in the league.
What about Art? Did they go to the same school?
I wish he'd expound on that. What do they mean 1 for 1? AK's first rebuild was specifically billed as an attempt to compete for championships and got nowhere near that. What did he succeed at??
Made the playoffs! Was first before the Lonzo injury!
Man Chicago over indexes on short periods of success.
Lonzo injury. No Bulls fault!
The Reinsdorfs' criteria for success:
Attendance: Above 20k.
Salary: Below the cap.
I listened to it, it's even worse with context. KC starts by saying 'this is ownership don't shoot the messenger' but then agrees with it and does more cover for AK knowing him 'behind the scenes a bit'. The co-host compared AK to Michael Corleone in his stealthy deal making
It's my own fault, it's the organization paid for podcast I shouldn't expect anything else
why couldnt today be like what happened in the NBA yesterday. The longtime LA Lakers owners, Buss family, sell the team. How exciting would it be to read the headlines of "Reinsdorf family sells the Chicago Bulls franchise".
I'd also not show up for post-draft media appearances if I'd had 5 drafts and traded away 2 of my FRPs for Vooch and used the rest on Pat Williams, Dalen Terry, and Matas (though I'm sure there's an opportunity for premature self-congratulations on Matas).
Funny thing about that is that literally any casual fan in America could have made that pick, just based upon mock draft intel. Which is probably the entirety of the intel the Bulls had on a kid from the Chicago suburbs.
Take a chill pill! Whether you are a fan (or not) it might help to wait to blow your top (or other orifice) until we see what happens with what direction the team is moving toward and what .moves will be made. Until then Chill out!!!
If 5 years into this regime's tenure the fans are still being asked to wait to see what direction management is moving towards, then fan patience is not the issue.
If they stink this season because of bad choices, I'm not watching them until they sell the team to an owner that wants a winning team a little more than just an investment.
Art should not be the final say on who gets extended contracts if you are trying save money and make the right choices for a young team. I'm just a fan and know more about the team than he does. He gave away Demar De Rozen. Traded Alex Caruso for a guy that can't defend, can't shoot but he can pass the ball well. What would possess him to give Patrick Williams an unwarranted extended contract and why did he do the same with Lonzo Ball knowing that Ball is very fragile and has not shown any improvement in his game since he came back? Because of that move, we have to let go a solid game winning backup point guard who will probably go to an opposing team and will do well. Art is still holding on to Vuce who wants to be a wing and does not defend the rim. Doesn't Art watch any of the games? He is costing the Bulls organization more than Lavine did. I wonder if he is the one that gave Lavine such a massive contract? Maybe Art is related to the Reinsdorfs.