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Thomas and Noah address their early-season cruddiness

Some quotes after Wednesday's practice:

Thomas sounded as though he's as impatient with his progress as fans and coaches.

"It will take time, but we need to hurry it up," Thomas said Wednesday. "I take ownership on a lot of it. I just have to find a way to get it going. Ain't no excuses, no youth, new offense, none of that b.s. I've just got to get it going. I haven't done a good job at all.

"I've got to figure out what it is I need to do to help the team get started, especially if I'm going to start games. I feel like if I start games, then it's my responsibility to help the team get off to a good start and I haven't been doing a good job of that at all."

Noah expressed many of the same feelings after the 3-on-3 showdown ended with a dunk by Gray, who then tacked on a short stream of trash talk. During the scrimmage, Noah drilled a number of 17-foot jumpers from the key.

"I know coach isn't expecting a lot of me offensively," Noah said. "But I feel like when I catch the ball inside, I have to be more aggressive and attack the basket a little bit more. I feel like I've been a little bit too tentative.

"Being a competitor, when you're playing against somebody from your college, of course you don't like him getting career highs, but it's part of the game."

Horford padded his point total by scoring a number of times after beating the Bulls defense down the court. Some of those plays could probably be blamed on the big men, while the full team shared in others.

"It was almost like they were cherry picking," Noah said. "As a big, you go and crash the glass. That's our job. If (your man is) already down (the floor), somebody has to pick him up until you get there.

"I feel like no excuses, though. They did a great job. I've just got to get better. Yeah, sometimes it is frustrating, but I'm trying to stay up and work hard."

Meanwhile, fellow blogger Steve Rosenbloom says Pax should be seeing if he can ship either or both out for anything. Well if it has really gotten to that point, Paxson himself should be on that same bus out of town.