Stampeding out of the most pathetic playoff race ever
Boylan is still a steamy turd. Here's his pregame explanation on why he moved Gooden to the starting lineup:
What's this talk about presence? tactics? I thought it was "bring your A-Game or sit next to me. I'm Jim Boylan: professional coach"
Tyrus played very well today, and he did get 25 minutes. But only 9 in the second half, and yanked for Gooden (if you have to get your trusted, consistently average players in, could've at least pulled Noah instead) after the Bulls made a run with Tyrus on the court. The Bulls were outscored 16-5 after that to finish the game.
It's better than the 9 minutes received in total on Friday. Well, at least it's comforting to know Tyrus will be playing for somebody (who knows if the Bulls can evaluate and keep talent anymore) while Boylan's getting water for Skiles at his next job.
Unfortunately that was only a minor (just the easiest to bitch about) problem with today's game, which was winnable only because the other team had Ben Wallace. The others:
Ben Gordon: 5-13
Luol Deng: 3-13
Larry Hughes: 8-20
Big 3!
Maybe it's a bit more necessary with Thabo injured, but playing Hughes over 43 minutes isn't going to work. He shoots far too poorly on a team that already shoots poorly. And his talk of how he'll be unleashed as a 'slasher' without LeBron was just that, as he's just as jump-shooty as ever.
Although slightly less so than what is already on the roster, I suppose. Gordon's only FTA was on a technical. Deng missed half a dozen layups. Those two are a huge problem. I can't see any solution but to re-sign both and hope they just play better. They're not this bad, and it's rare to see players dramatically regress at the ages of 22 and 24. It's just a bad year, and unlike Hughes we don't know it will continue. At least maybe it helps the Bulls get a discount for each in the offseason. There's always sign and trades, but I'd only be asking for upgrades, and I can't even see a team that would give up such a thing for either. You can try and package Tyrus/Noah or the upcoming pick, but then you'd have to get something really special in return.
Unfortunately, whether it's a blemish in a good career or an unstoppable trend, Gordon and Deng's poor play is sending the team to the lottery. Boylan's merely pouring gas on the fire in the form of Gooden and Hughes.
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your standards for Tyrus
by JSlakov on
Mar 2, 2008 5:26 PM CST
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fair enough
Maybe I just have low standards based on his teammates.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Mar 2, 2008 5:28 PM CST
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oh, almost forgot my standard response to JSlakov
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Mar 2, 2008 5:29 PM CST
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Why give in?
"Per 36"
67% FG%
6-8.5 FT
17 PTS
10 REB
3 BLKS
1/2 ASST
1/2 STL
1/2 PF
If he plays more, sounds like he played pretty fucking well to me. If he plays any better, I think that'd be pretty fucking great.
Slakov is a jakov
(Oh, and he wasn't drafted #2 overall. At least the MSM announcers got that right.)
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Mar 2, 2008 7:04 PM CST
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wow
semantics aside, when you use the second overall draft pick to acquire someone you'd like 17 and 10 to be their average performance and even though I dislike Boylan's substitutions as much as the next guy, he shouldn't let whether or not he gets crunch time minutes even be something up for debate.
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Mar 3, 2008 12:13 AM CST
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semantics aside?
(and I have no idea what you're trying to say in that last part. There's no debate that Tyrus should get crunch time minutes? shouldn't?)
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Mar 3, 2008 8:59 AM CST
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I think Tyrus should get crunch time minutes, you think Tryus should get crunch time minutes, but Boylan and Hubie Brown, as much as I think they're idiots, disagree and I would love for Thomas to be playing so well that even stupid people like them would have to agree.
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Mar 3, 2008 1:07 PM CST
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Is Hubie an idiot?
by NBA Observer on
Mar 3, 2008 3:09 PM CST
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How many TO's does that work out to?
by bullshooter on
Mar 3, 2008 8:53 AM CST
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4
by tyger1147 on
Mar 3, 2008 9:06 AM CST
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Why do you
by sue369 on
Mar 3, 2008 9:30 AM CST
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He knew what it was is why.
by tyger1147 on
Mar 3, 2008 9:32 AM CST
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of course I did tygger
by bullshooter on
Mar 3, 2008 9:36 AM CST
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I really didn't even notice it.
by tyger1147 on
Mar 3, 2008 9:40 AM CST
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don't try to bs the bullshooter
by bullshooter on
Mar 3, 2008 11:48 AM CST
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What was disingenuous?
by tyger1147 on
Mar 3, 2008 12:06 PM CST
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my opinion of you hasn't changed at all
by bullshooter on
Mar 3, 2008 12:21 PM CST
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Trying to tell
by sue369 on
Mar 3, 2008 9:39 AM CST
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And your hypocritical woman love of Hinrich
by tyger1147 on
Mar 3, 2008 9:42 AM CST
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HAHAHA!!!!!!
by sue369 on
Mar 3, 2008 9:58 AM CST
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Besides...
by tyger1147 on
Mar 3, 2008 9:44 AM CST
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I vote for
by NBA Observer on
Mar 3, 2008 8:51 AM CST
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Neither
by Cannoli on
Mar 2, 2008 5:34 PM CST
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well if you have LeBron
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Mar 2, 2008 5:50 PM CST
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Precisely Matt!!
by lexdiamonds0730 on
Mar 2, 2008 8:44 PM CST
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Bulls needed a physical presence...
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Mar 2, 2008 5:59 PM CST
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ha! great point
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Mar 2, 2008 8:57 PM CST
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well
It was Gordon/Hughes/Deng/Noc/Gooden. A very quick -4 before putting Noah back in (not like that helped, however)
http://popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20080302&game=CHICLE
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Mar 3, 2008 9:35 AM CST
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Nope
by BenGo07 on
Mar 3, 2008 10:14 AM CST
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pretty sad
Maybe Boylan only thinks of 'physical presence' on offense.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Mar 3, 2008 10:30 AM CST
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It would be hilarious
And I'm not even saying Tyrus could've actually done anything; James' chin was above the rim on that monster jam. But still...it would've been nice to find out.
by BenGo07 on
Mar 3, 2008 9:19 PM CST
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I defend Noc more than necessary
Deng is completely lost playing the 4. He's just no threat to deny any shots in the paint. Noc, Tyrus, Gooden, Gray, and Noah are the only threats in the paint at denying shots at the rim.
This is another example of Stacey King's "Know Your Personnel" commentary. We're not identifying what opponents are on the court and how the defense should adjust to exploit them or limit them.
by NBA Observer on
Mar 3, 2008 11:41 AM CST
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Probably another reason
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Mar 3, 2008 12:20 PM CST
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Jamal Tinsley killed us
by NBA Observer on
Mar 3, 2008 3:07 PM CST
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Stacey needs to call out Boylan
Would that be "KOP"?
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Mar 3, 2008 2:04 PM CST
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I hate all this BS about how you have to coddle
It worked for the Blazers who 'forced' their younger players ( Roy - Aldridge) to play major minutes early in their career and they look fine to me. There's another example of this working for a team. Hint, it was the fucking the Bulls! They forced Hinrich, Deng, and Gordon to play major minutes early in their career and I feel it helped them grow exponentially.
So why change their gameplan now? They aren't going to win shit! And Boylan (the Skile's- protege/fucktard/twin) can't get his head around the fact Gooden is by no means an all star and doesn't deserve this star treatment in terms of minutes. Especially considering TT is the most important player on the team. If the Bulls are even going to improve drastically, this guy has to become an all star. They are 'developing' him at a snails like pace.
by RogersPark Kris on
Mar 2, 2008 6:04 PM CST
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I had accidently
by cranscape on
Mar 2, 2008 6:25 PM CST
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I have the same malady
by chgobr on
Mar 2, 2008 6:38 PM CST
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How hilariously sad is it . .
by Big D on
Mar 2, 2008 6:53 PM CST
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Maybe a lottery pick is the benefit
by marionette on
Mar 2, 2008 7:11 PM CST
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Obviously you ask
by marionette on
Mar 3, 2008 12:18 AM CST
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Nail, meet head
by Freethefro on
Mar 2, 2008 7:15 PM CST
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I hate Boylan.
by tyger1147 on
Mar 2, 2008 6:58 PM CST
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This was Hughes best game to me,
And I think that speaks to the point that you don't want he and Gooden as starters on a contender (sans LeBron, anyway!). These guys just aren't going to get appreciably better. I don't believe Gooden has a big-time post game that will suddenly emerge (sorry Hubie). And reliance on it has the bad side effect of limiting other guys from developing one. It's not the end of the world, but it's a shame there doesn't currently seem to be a vision of the future, when now is the perfect time. The only move for the future that I see is trying more of BG bringing the ball up, originating the set. In fact, didn't there seem to be much more of the old motion/weave out at the perimeter this game?
by marionette on
Mar 2, 2008 7:02 PM CST
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You should always take away minutes...
by tyger1147 on
Mar 2, 2008 7:05 PM CST
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Right at his career avg!!!!! Woooo!!!!
by marionette on
Mar 2, 2008 7:15 PM CST
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Boylan should
by sue369 on
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its safe to assume
by bullsfaninla on
Mar 2, 2008 7:48 PM CST
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Agree - the whole staf fshould be gone.
by chgobr on
Mar 2, 2008 8:14 PM CST
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The thing with Pete Myers
I need to correct my judgment though. Myers just may look a lot better next to Boylan.
by NBA Observer on
Mar 3, 2008 8:55 AM CST
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Tyrus is a good help defender
Why couldn't the Bulls numbnuts coaching staff switched our most athletic player to offset LBJ's dominance over Deng and Nocioni? How could he have done any worse? He already demonstrated his quickness and leaping ability did upset LBJ's rythem when he went to help our otherwise helpless defenders.
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Mar 2, 2008 8:06 PM CST
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We need Tyrus more than any other player right now
Without Tyrus, the lane is wiiiide open.
by YaoPau on
Mar 2, 2008 9:25 PM CST
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Exactly re TT!
To nobodies surprise except for the coaching stiffs, Cleveland went off on a 16-5 run to doom the Bulls and once again put a dagger in the hearts of players and fans.
Plus/minus for today. TT+5 Kirk -12 Hughes -8
Gooden -10 Noc -8 Deng -5 BG +3 Boylan -69
by Tyrusmancrush on
Mar 2, 2008 10:18 PM CST
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Larry Hughes
As for Gooden, he is a fine player. Not an all-star, but certainly not trash. He is either a mediocre starter or a great second string 4.
This team is garbage, so you can trade everyone as far as I'm concerned, but I'd get rid of Hinrich, Gordon and Noce (and their absurd salaries and demands), get a real point guard and maybe someone else to play the 3.
by Stay Chisel on
Mar 2, 2008 8:20 PM CST
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Why hate Hughes?
Hughes and Gooden aren't going to get any worse if they play less and neither is going to get any better by playing 30-35 minutes per night. So Hughes scored the most points? Big whoop. He also played the most minutes and took the most shots. Half a dozen guys on this team could score 23 points if they played 43 minutes.
Hughes and Gooden bring things to this team that they need: a slasher and "refined" post guy. But neither are good enough at that or at other things to demand more minutes than the other guys. They are flawed players like the rest of the team. And since they're the longest-tenured in the NBA, they're the least likely to all of a sudden overcome those flaws. The other players at least have a chance.
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Mar 2, 2008 9:14 PM CST
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The shine will
by sue369 on
Mar 3, 2008 8:06 AM CST
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The whole Hughes will be better
by bullshooter on
Mar 2, 2008 9:13 PM CST
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hughes...
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Mar 2, 2008 9:46 PM CST
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Let me add to the Majority
No identity
No ball movement
No wins
and in the losses, no Kirk
Gah what do i fall back on to watch the bulls
its horrible basketball, no passion, nothing worth watching.
Lets jump on the bandwagon, i like what the lakers are doing.
by piccolomair on
Mar 2, 2008 9:56 PM CST
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Bull Timeline for this season
The bulls started off slow, alot of the new guys on blogabull threw out negetive energy, while some of us (me included) said "ho hum, its only the first few games"
Yet the first few games turned into a dozen, more negetive energy, yet a few people still said "ho hum, just a slow start"
The Slow start lasted too long, and we noticed that skiles was benching people left in right, and players just werent listening to the coach.
Skiles was fired
"Indeed!" we exclaimed, "Look at the bulls now!!! FREEDOM RINGS!!! Did you see that? Wallace just Dunked."
Yet it was short lived, as Wallace would never dunk again, more so, he would suck and suck and suck more calling team meetings at random moments.
"Wallace Must Go!!!" we shouted in unison.
Throughout the League our stars that we wanted so bad were being thrown around for dirt cheap (gasol) and we questioned where is Paxson?
The Deadline passed, and so did wallace, to another team.
"Hurrah!!" we exclaimed, "Now we can play some 5 on 5 basketball"
Indeed we played 5 on 5, and we gathered to witness a horrid loss against a depleted wizards team.
Here we stand...weeping. What the hell happened
to the bulls, and why like this...Why!
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Mar 2, 2008 10:11 PM CST
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i will respond
remember 2007-2008 as the year that DA BULLS were destroyed by management, just as is happening with DA BEARS this offseason.
Ben Wallace sucks-->Fire Skiles-->trade DA CORPSE--->Boylan screw job-->we still suck and players are not developed
but still better than being a Soops fan
by Orlando Woolridge on
Mar 3, 2008 12:59 AM CST
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Evil Genius!
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Mar 2, 2008 11:13 PM CST
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Reinsdork may be evil but he's no genius
If the Bulls flop than the value of Gordon and Deng shrink faster than the stock market, the Bulls wind up with a lottery pick to replace one or both next year and Reinsjerk doesn't have to ante up for a new coach until then.
If money is your God with winning an afterthought (think White Sox), your prayers have been answered. Next year instead of abandoning this shipwreck, the fans once again flock to the ticket counters...being offered Change and Hope with a new young lottery stud and a new coach with something between his ears that Booblyn doesn't have...a brain.
by Tyrusmancrush on
Mar 3, 2008 12:08 AM CST
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Yeah
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Mar 3, 2008 12:51 AM CST
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Costly Players
by piccolomair on
Mar 3, 2008 1:05 AM CST
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Surely
Hot damn, baby! Dat's muh foist lank!
by marionette on
Mar 3, 2008 1:30 AM CST
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Great Link
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Portland...
by alec on
Mar 3, 2008 1:40 PM CST
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Yeah
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Mar 3, 2008 2:44 PM CST
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It's not just Paul Allen
by Sports2 on
Mar 3, 2008 7:35 PM CST
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I was
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Mar 3, 2008 9:38 PM CST
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Oh, I don't disagree with that at all
As far as I can tell it's not that well correlated to success.
I guess I'd put it this way. Willingness to pay the tax is another tool in a good GM's arsenal. It's also another tool in a bad GM's arsenal.
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Mar 3, 2008 9:48 PM CST
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Why is everyone upset with Boylan
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Mar 3, 2008 7:47 AM CST
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see, when I posted a "Fire Pax" post
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Mar 3, 2008 9:12 AM CST
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The Good and Bad of Larry Hughes
Larry Hughes finished the game 8-20 from the field. 40% is right around his career average. But is he a better shooter than that? How many players can keep their shots falling while playing 24 minutes straight?
Hughes was 2-7 in the 4th quarter. He played the whole quarter. He also played the entire 3rd quarter. Tired Larry Hughes is a 40% FG shooter. Assume for a minute that Larry sits the 4th quarter. He's a 6-13 then and a very healthy 46% from the field.
So why was Larry playing the entire 2nd half and when combined with the close of the first half, he played 34 minutes straight? With Thabo inactive, the guard rotation was a man short. Is this the best time to relegate Kirk Hinrich to the doghouse? OK, Boylan hasn't been happy with his play. Can he at least get into the game to give Hughes a rest? Is 4 minutes a travesty? How about 3 minutes? 2?
It should be no surprise that a shooter's FG percentage declines the longer they are on the floor for consecutive minutes without rest.
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Mar 3, 2008 9:08 AM CST
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is that actually true?
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Mar 3, 2008 9:15 AM CST
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actually it goes right along
by bullshooter on
Mar 3, 2008 11:55 AM CST
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wonderfully unproveable
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Hold on there.
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Mar 3, 2008 1:26 PM CST
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So wait...
Aha. Got it. I had wondered what made someone clutch for a long time.
I kept thinking basketball skills would have played a part.
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Mar 3, 2008 1:36 PM CST
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As silly as we're making all this sound,
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Mar 3, 2008 1:45 PM CST
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WTF are you talking about?
K.I.S.S.
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Mar 3, 2008 9:20 AM CST
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Bad shots are bad shots
It's not like he was taxing himself defensively either. He was guarding Devin Brown and Wally Szcerbiak.
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Mar 3, 2008 9:27 AM CST
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re: fatigue
Or maybe I just want to find more reasons to hate Boylan :)
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If he took bad shots all game...
I just don't understand trying to explain Larry Hughes being Larry Hughes in any other way than Larry Hughes being Larry Hughes.
If he was shooting 40% in three quarters and finished below, maybe... or if he was 0 for 7 or something.
In this case, imo, it was just that old "reversion to the mean" thing.
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Mar 3, 2008 9:39 AM CST
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I'd only be willing to excuse Hughes
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Mar 3, 2008 9:49 AM CST
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Well Tyger, and really
When BG starts the 3rd Q on the bench, and doesn't get in the game until more than half the quarter is gone, then starts the 4th Q on the floor, takes the second Bulls shot of the quarter on a feed from Thabo, after a miss from Deng...Ben shoots 100%.
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Mar 3, 2008 9:35 AM CST
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To be fair to Boylan...
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Tyrus and Noc challenge dunks attempts
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Noc's fouls
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rarely?
Luol? meh. He's soft.
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just a guess
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bah
"That's what I expected from him when I spoke to him about coming off the bench," Boylan said.
A bit of guessing, but it sounds like Boylan believes Tyrus played well because he was benched.
Also, I don't know why KC mentions the last 7 minutes of the half, and not the last minutes of the 4th quarter when Tyrus was out and the Bulls got blowed out (whether it's a causation or not).
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KC's a puppet.
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Mar 3, 2008 10:02 AM CST
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KC in print vs KC elsewhere
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What disturbs me
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How do we talk to Hubie
I think we can convince Hubie that Tyrus Thomas is one of the answers and no longer a real question.
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tough game
I'm a huge fan of tyrus and he is one of a few bulls who can change the game on both ends, as a newbie Hughes seems to understand how to toss it up to him more that guys that have been playing with him for over a year. With Deng playing so poorly I was thinking that Thomas should be playing some 3. I don't want Gooden to start over TT, but Gooden is a starter on this team (not that he's so good, the team just stinks) with his offensive game and what seems to be a high bball IQ. I liked seeing them on the floor at the same time, but they lacked height. I'd like to see a lienup of BG, Hughes, TT, Gooden, and Noah.
Seemed to me like Hughes was the best player on our team. As far as offseason trades go it depends on what position we need to address. Best players and Untradeabulls (IMO) are BG, Hughes, Gooden, TT, and Noah. If we go after a big name 3 then we can include Deng in the deal, maybe Deng, Hinrich, Noc and a 2nd rounder for Tmac or the likes? Hughes' emergence as the best player/#1 option makes it obvious that this team needs scorers. Entire team for Kobe seems like a good deal right now
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that's quite an admission from you
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Mar 3, 2008 11:45 AM CST
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Imagine
All of this could have been avoided.
Oh and great quote I just read in US magazine.
Interviewing Barack . . . .
US : What do you do in your free time?
OBAMA : I'll take a look at the sports pages to see how the White Sox or Bulls are doing.
Takes the "Stars - They're Just Like US" section to a whole new level
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The glass is half-full - 5 reasons to smile
1- The Corpse is gone and looks as dead in Cleveland as he did in Chicago. I think he missed 4 or 5 FTs in a row and the Cleveland fans were getting restless. Gooden beat him inside multiple times and I'm glad to be rid of him.
2- Hughes, with his chuck-em up limitation, still gives us way more than BW
3- We at BaB have reached a concensus Boylan must go!
4- We did not pay Deng and Gordon $10 mil per year. The mystery of what is wrong with those two remains for discussion.
5- Deng and Gordon's terrible play may be an aberrration. We sign them for cheap and they blossom next year.
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LeBron weighed in on HasBen...
"He was the oldest guy and had to be the daddy of that [Bulls] team and play well and do a lot of things that maybe he couldn't do," James said. "There are veterans here. We know how to play. It takes a lot of pressure off him. He can just come and play the way he played when he was in Detroit."
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Lebron is a classy guy
Let me translate:
"Ben is old , can't jump, and can't score. The Bulls used to hope that he could dunk it from two feet away from the rim."
"The Cavs have Me, Lebron James and a bunch of role players. I can cover up his faults by scoring a lot."
"I can't believe the Pistons were able to win with this guy!"
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Mar 3, 2008 11:14 AM CST
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I second that...
I just liked where LeBron called Wallace "daddy".
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At one point
lollering
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That took guts
Hughes isn't THE answer, but what did you expect for Wallace? Feel pretty confident that was the best offer out there.
Hard to say what the impact would have been if BG and LD accepted those offers. 20/20 doesn't like the current results. If 5 comes true, that will be plenty to smile about.
by California Al on
Mar 3, 2008 11:38 AM CST
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The benching of Tyrus
Until the Bulls have a dominant player on their team the line up should always be:
Kirk/ Ben
Thabo/ Larry
Noah/ Aaron (Unless match up dictates differently)
Tryus/ Gooden
Deng/ Noc
But the Bulls are afaried of this line-up because they don't want to upset the new guys... to hell with the new guys! They not that good anyway.
by Takeaseat on
Mar 3, 2008 12:30 PM CST
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defense and offense
by hscs on
Mar 3, 2008 1:11 PM CST
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I dont agree
by Takeaseat on
Mar 3, 2008 1:30 PM CST
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I'm afraid i can't follow
by alec on
Mar 3, 2008 1:35 PM CST
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I think he meant Suns
by NBA Observer on
Mar 3, 2008 3:11 PM CST
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Are you kidding me?
Secondly, the best defender on the Suns was Shawn Marion. While they say that they got Shaq for defensive purposes, if anything his lack of mobility now makes them even worse. The fact that they will have to play at a much slower pace to accommodate Shaq will make their points allowed per game go down, misleading many to think the D has actually improved.
Thirdly, Aaron Gray is not a long term answer for anything but a nice option off the bench. He is big and slow and a massive defensive liability. Noah is the center for the new NBA, a league returning to its tradition of athleticism, skill, and movement. Thankfully, the days of every team paying large behemoths to physically assault any player daring to enter the lane have come to an end.
by snley on
Mar 3, 2008 1:40 PM CST
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meant to say Mavs one of best defensive teams
by snley on
Mar 3, 2008 1:44 PM CST
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That would make a great nick-name for Gray!
by RogersPark Kris on
Mar 3, 2008 1:44 PM CST
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Hey dont hate on Gray
by Takeaseat on
Mar 3, 2008 1:55 PM CST
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Gray's lack of quickness is a killer
by snley on
Mar 3, 2008 2:01 PM CST
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i like gray
by Jaina on
Mar 3, 2008 2:07 PM CST
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What was trying to do is say if you
by Takeaseat on
Mar 3, 2008 1:48 PM CST
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Let's take a look at that
04-05 4 9
05-06 1 11
06-07 2 5
07-08 9 10
To me, that looks like a fairly well balanced squad, offensively and defensively. Sure, they may win a little bit more because of their O, but not enough to say they're a "mostly offensive team." To bring the point home a little more, most people associate offensive teams with the idea of running and gunning. Let's throw in Pace Factor ranking for the Mavs.
04-05:9
05-06:26
06-07:28
07-08:24
Again, keep in mind that 04-05 was Nelson's final year with Avery coaching the last 18 games. This team is much closer to the Spurs and Pistons in style of play than the pre-Shaq Suns or Warriors.
by snley on
Mar 3, 2008 1:58 PM CST
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the Suns and the Mavs?
With the exception of the Pistons, you'll find the past handful of NBA champs were top 10 in both offensive and defensive efficiency.
by hscs on
Mar 3, 2008 1:49 PM CST
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You're spot on with your starting line-up
by Bass on
Mar 3, 2008 1:18 PM CST
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Count me in
Noc starts and looks to get 34 minutes. Deng comes off the bench for 24 minutes. Vary minutes based on effectiveness.
I think overall we need to keep Thomas or Noah on the court at all times. When both these guys are on the bench the interior defense practically disappears. Thomas and Noah block the most shots and force the most turnovers.
by NBA Observer on
Mar 3, 2008 3:16 PM CST
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Consider yourself counted :)
But I just don't see it happening under Boylan... :(
by Bass on
Mar 3, 2008 3:58 PM CST
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UCLA"S Westbrook is a paxson player
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Mar 3, 2008 8:15 PM CST
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Westbrook
by Kemp on
Mar 3, 2008 9:43 PM CST
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been ignoring the draft diary?
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Mar 3, 2008 10:56 PM CST
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You..
by Kemp on
Mar 4, 2008 3:13 PM CST
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it was directed more towards stretch armstrong
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Mar 4, 2008 3:39 PM CST
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I get you.
by Kemp on
Mar 4, 2008 3:41 PM CST
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Is there a new coach out there?
by Ozzie Montana on
Mar 3, 2008 10:57 PM CST
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Oh yeah, new to the site
by Ozzie Montana on
Mar 3, 2008 10:58 PM CST
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heh, welcome
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Mar 3, 2008 11:13 PM CST
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Well you are right
by Ozzie Montana on
Mar 3, 2008 11:22 PM CST
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anti-Noc fervor
by NBA Observer on
Mar 4, 2008 9:17 AM CST
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Boylan ???
Making this bone-headed decision so soon caused Boylan to lose his competitive advantage with the players. Thus allowing Hughes to feel free to make bone-headed statements posting all the local newspapers without recourse.
Gooden also seems to need consistent fire against his ... to keep him sharp!
by exult463 on
Mar 4, 2008 11:09 AM CST
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Is it too late?
I'm brown bagging any more games I attend this season.
by NBA Observer on
Mar 4, 2008 11:20 AM CST
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It would take a huge winning streak
by Ozzie Montana on
Mar 4, 2008 11:44 AM CST
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I think, hope, Boylan needs at least the second
by snley on
Mar 4, 2008 11:52 AM CST
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People stop worring
by Takeaseat on
Mar 4, 2008 1:05 PM CST
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Hey
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Mar 4, 2008 2:46 PM CST
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No
by Bulls4Ever on
Mar 4, 2008 2:48 PM CST
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Playoff push
Playoffs are fools gold at this point. Who cares that you make the playoffs in a horrible conference just so you can get crushed for a weeks more games.
Get a real coach and get to next year SOON!
by bullschwaah on
Mar 4, 2008 1:21 PM CST
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I cant disagree
by Takeaseat on
Mar 4, 2008 1:32 PM CST
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I'm
by Bulls4Ever on
Mar 4, 2008 2:49 PM CST
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Grizzly Adams not good enough for ya?
by NBA Observer on
Mar 4, 2008 3:02 PM CST
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Grizzly Adams
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Mar 4, 2008 4:46 PM CST
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always glad to see a dumb joke
by hscs on
Mar 4, 2008 4:56 PM CST
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hscs
Your so paranoid..
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Mar 4, 2008 5:02 PM CST
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Terrorist or not
by RogersPark Kris on
Mar 4, 2008 4:58 PM CST
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Drew Gooden has a beard!
by hscs on
Mar 4, 2008 5:03 PM CST
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That's not cool
by sue369 on
Mar 4, 2008 3:05 PM CST
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Hmmmmm
by Ozzie Montana on
Mar 4, 2008 3:30 PM CST
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Lighten up
by Bulls4Ever on
Mar 4, 2008 4:47 PM CST
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I'm so excited!!!
by preverbal on
Mar 4, 2008 4:18 PM CST
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they've already done it once this season
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Mar 4, 2008 4:21 PM CST
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If there is one team who cares less about
I have a good feeling about this one!
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Mar 4, 2008 4:22 PM CST
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One
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This was the guy I
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Mar 5, 2008 8:21 AM CST
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gasol+gay
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Watch
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