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Open Game Thread #66: Bulls at New Orleans Hornets

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Bah.

Usually, as this season has progressed (or digressed), by each next game I'm back on the horse. That Sixers loss did me in though, like the Washington one should've.

Would a win on the road over New Orleans make up for collapsing at home? Meh, maybe, but I've finally learned that it'll only mean we're just that much closer to seeing the next Boylan-led debacle. No thanks.

The Hornets are hurting, and David West may not play. They did play yesterday afternoon in Detroit, which supposedly, with real NBA teams, helps.

Commenter paxson43 emailed me noting that tonight is green jersey night in celebration of St. Patrick's day, and last season's outing in the green was a destruction of the Celtics featuring Tyrus Thomas going bananas with many an alley-oop.

Fast forward a year, and I'm pretty sure the Bulls released Thomas, I'm now looking to sell my upcoming tickets against the Celtics, and Ty-3 watch is in full effect. He bled once in a game, you know.

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It's a toss up
if I watch this game or Dancing With The Stars.

by sue369 on Mar 17, 2008 6:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no DVR?
I usually can get through a game in 1:15 nowadays.

Also, I'm not sure if this works for non-HD telecasts, but I was so fed up with Dore and Kerr on  Friday that I unplugged the front speakers and just had the sounds of bouncing basketballs, squeaking sneakers, and Tommy Edwards. I sort of lost track of the fouls, but that's a small price to pay.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 17, 2008 6:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll record
one or the other. We get both events in HD.

by sue369 on Mar 17, 2008 6:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll be watching :(
After paying for league pass for the first time this year, I'm sort of feeling like I'm at one of those really crappy all-you-can-eat buffets.  The game may be physically painful to watch, but dammit, I'm getting my money's worth if it kills me.
Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Mar 17, 2008 6:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm watching dancing with the stars
Since no league pass in Charter country.  I'd record it and go through it in 50 minutes, but I have to watch American Idol tomorrow night, so I might not get back to it.

by KT on Mar 17, 2008 6:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you women and your dancing
and ice-skating and gymnastics.  I'll never get it... :-p
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 7:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I watch ice skating
just to see if they'll fall.  Just like people who watch Nascar for the car crashes.  :)

by KT on Mar 17, 2008 10:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YEA GO BULLS
LETS TURN THIS SEASON AROUND STARTING TODAY!!! WHOOOOOOO!!!!

Sorry...that was sooo uncalled for...I just wanted to get that last bit of enthusiasm out of my system and get ready for another mind numbing loss.

By the way anyone hate the way the bulls lose. I mean just losing is one thing, but they make you think they are dominating, but in reality all they need is a 5 min window to get blown out. Gah.

Although i am looking forward to those Green Jerseys (green being my favorite color, maybe i should become a fan of the celtics, at least then ill be rooting for a winning orginization for the next two years. The bulls should pick up by then huh??)

Kirk Hinrich. The Best White American Point Guard in the NBA.

by piccolomair on Mar 17, 2008 7:10 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To me
This is just a chance to see Noah vs Chandler

by Option27 on Mar 17, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who is Bowen
is he any good?
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Key matchup = Hinrich on Paul
Going out on a limb, I know. But considering how badly he outplayed Kirk in the last meeting, this is a chanced for Captain Kirk, aka "Captain Mediocre" to redeem himself.

by RogersPark Kris on Mar 17, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now I know it's showcasing
Gooden just went in for the jump ball.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hughes drive
Why does he not do that more often? He actually looks good hen he does, especially compared to his awful bricks he throws up so often.

by Illini15 on Mar 17, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Guess the answer is no
Bowen isn't good.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 7:20 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How long before Boylan fucks this up
Only a matter of time before he goes small

by Option27 on Mar 17, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bleh
Anyone else getting a sick feeling that this lead is gonna go bye bye, and were gonna have mediocre performances by hinrich, deng, hughes and tyrus and noah wont be anywhere at the end of the game? Cuz i definetly am, ....i hate this.
Kirk Hinrich. The FORMER Best White American Point Guard in the NBA, Will Soon be Traded :(

by piccolomair on Mar 17, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On Cue
There it is, were losing. Bleh.....
Kirk Hinrich. The FORMER Best White American Point Guard in the NBA, Will Soon be Traded :(

by piccolomair on Mar 17, 2008 7:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you forgot to add the guy who just came in
and is playing out of position which completely hamstrings his game.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 7:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really
Quick Shot?? You must mean WHAT THE HELL!!! Another dumb shot by hughes, Woot Woot!!
Kirk Hinrich. The FORMER Best White American Point Guard in the NBA, Will Soon be Traded :(

by piccolomair on Mar 17, 2008 7:37 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

next year
at the draft I don't want to hear how we need size.  It doesn't matter we'll go small any chance we get
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Mar 17, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tyrus is 1 foul away
from the 2 allowed fouls per game that Boylan allows him.

by RogersPark Kris on Mar 17, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boylan
I couldve sworn it was a team rule way back in the skiles era too. Im sure it was printed into the rule book last season.
Kirk Hinrich. The FORMER Best White American Point Guard in the NBA, Will Soon be Traded :(

by piccolomair on Mar 17, 2008 7:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thabo and Noc
have the same haircut, except Thabo's is in cornrows.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They are saving them all
For the last 5 minutes of the game. So that if we even try to pull a comeback, they will be able to put us in our place.
Kirk Hinrich. The FORMER Best White American Point Guard in the NBA, Will Soon be Traded :(

by piccolomair on Mar 17, 2008 7:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow Noc
That was terrible face up defense. As soon as he made a half arsed swipe, Wells drove right past him.

by RogersPark Kris on Mar 17, 2008 7:51 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Noc doesn't seem to be too in to it tonight
wonder how he feels about the rotations...
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 7:52 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BG
Seems to be playing alright...the verdict is out on  most of the other players. Thabo might have a decent game, Hinrich may not see the court again. Wonder if duhon will  hit the floor, wonder if he remembered to bring his green jersey much less tuck it in.
Kirk Hinrich. The FORMER Best White American Point Guard in the NBA, Will Soon be Traded :(

by piccolomair on Mar 17, 2008 7:54 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nm
Thabo is also having a good game. Package Hinrich and Hughes for something good? Man...and i really thought hinrich would be the next stockton...:(
Kirk Hinrich. The FORMER Best White American Point Guard in the NBA, Will Soon be Traded :(

by piccolomair on Mar 17, 2008 7:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Duhon didn't make the trip
and it kills when BG is at the point for so many reasons, but the biggest might be that if he is the bulls best shooter, why would you want him to be passing the ball?  There is about a 3% chance that none of Hughes, Gooden, Deng, TT, Noc or whoever is out there don't shoot the ball and they swing the ball back around.  It's just dumb.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 7:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thabo can play
Some point...Maybe the bulls will take Sam Smiths advice and draft Rose in the offseason by trading up for him.
Kirk Hinrich. The FORMER Best White American Point Guard in the NBA, Will Soon be Traded :(

by piccolomair on Mar 17, 2008 8:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How long
until TT starts jacking up 3's?  He's always getting the ball out there.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 7:54 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that needs to stop
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Mar 17, 2008 8:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thabo
is just beautiful to watch

by Option27 on Mar 17, 2008 7:56 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hinrich didnt even TRY
To get that rebound...>DAMN IT ALL
Kirk Hinrich. The FORMER Best White American Point Guard in the NBA, Will Soon be Traded :(

by piccolomair on Mar 17, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes he did...
That was the highlight of the game for me. Maybe he's thinking ahead to Tyler Hansbrough...

by smash on Mar 18, 2008 10:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

noah
No rebounds for noah.

by armstrong2389 on Mar 17, 2008 8:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chris Paul
is just a joy to watch - fast, explosive, creative.  

by Freethefro on Mar 17, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep
I'm reduced to enjoying the superb play of players on the other team.  Damn.

by Freethefro on Mar 17, 2008 8:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you'd think Deng would stand
a little closer to Stojackovic and not lose him quite so much.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this Bowen guy
is doing everything he can to keep the bulls in it.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bowen
This dude is the worst "NBA player" I've ever seen.

by Illini15 on Mar 17, 2008 8:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why so negative
bulls are winning for one.  All that despite hinrich's usual shit play and our new arrivals from cleveland combining for more than 20 shots already, although they are doing quite well at it.  
If Boylan doesnt screw with the lineups too much then the bulls have a chance.  Oh and chandler his looking like his former self.

by Sambossanova on Mar 17, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was thinking the same thing
I thought they were losing, judging by these comments. Then I checked the score and they're up by 9. Noice
"to the children: Fuck the Bulls." - Matt

by NittanyBull on Mar 17, 2008 8:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Our new arrivals
have played really well .

by Freethefro on Mar 17, 2008 8:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hinrich
boy he blows shooting tonight.

by Freethefro on Mar 17, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes
Someone tell him to stop attempting shots. It's ugly to watch...I mean, he's not even close on some of these.

by Illini15 on Mar 17, 2008 8:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Horrendous foul there
Come on, Larry, you're having a pretty good game. Don't bail them out like that.

by Illini15 on Mar 17, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he Wallaced a dunk
how good of a night can he be having.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 8:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CP jets by a lot of people
and Noah probably has never seen this kind of speed before.  He's a smart kid; he'll adjust.  Let's home he does it quickly!

by Freethefro on Mar 17, 2008 8:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boylan's coaching
has been rock solid today.  Please let this continue till the 4th.

by YaoPau on Mar 17, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shouldn't we get ready
for the inevitable collapse?

by Option27 on Mar 17, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If it weren't for the end of the quarter
BG would already be an all-star.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL
BG's really fun to watch...except we've gotta stop giving him the ball at the end of quarter's and just saying "create."  Run some offense!  Jeez.

by Freethefro on Mar 17, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah
his handle just doesn't cut it in situations like that

by Illini15 on Mar 17, 2008 9:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey all-
is it possible that we could keep Gordon and trade Hinrich?  Does he still have any value with that huge contract?  

by Freethefro on Mar 17, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the problem is
who would play PG? BG and Hughes? meh

by Illini15 on Mar 17, 2008 9:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dudu
lets face it, hinrich aint much better.  OK so that was a joke but no one is going to take both hughes and hinrich.  Need someone who can shoot the ball and neither of them can.  Thabo, Gordon and Rose would look like a nice backcourt even if a bit undersized.

by Sambossanova on Mar 17, 2008 9:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think they're just going to have to figure out
who will bring them the best deal back out of Larry, Kirk and Ben - assuming they can get reasonably close to signing Ben anyway.
Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Mar 17, 2008 9:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So is a 9 point lead only half as toxic as +18?
And does that mean the Bulls might hold on to win?

It was a nice 3rd until those closing seconds.  I don't know why a team that supposedly prefers ball movement always goes to isolations at the end of quarters/games.

Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Mar 17, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Alright Jimbo
BLOW THAT LEAD BLOW THAT LEAD

by gobulls1124 on Mar 17, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Larry Hughes and his fucking quick jumpers
in transition are a nightmare.

Boylan is such an ineffectual moron.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Mar 17, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not sure if you can blast Boylan right now
the shots these guys are taking are all on them

by Illini15 on Mar 17, 2008 9:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uh, who coaches them?
WHo supposedly talked ot them about how to protect a big lead in practice?

WHo apparently didn't get through?

Hence, ineffectual.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Mar 17, 2008 9:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my bad
i read your post too quickly. i agree with you on the "ineffectual" thing. it certainly rings painfully true.

by Illini15 on Mar 17, 2008 9:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BG better continue to make it rain
or this will be tough to watch I'm afraid

by Illini15 on Mar 17, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is Noah in?
...I am not getting this on TV.

by bullsfaninbigapple on Mar 17, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah
he's played most of the game tonight

by Illini15 on Mar 17, 2008 9:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks
...that gives me some hope...

by bullsfaninbigapple on Mar 17, 2008 9:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Doesn't have big stats tonight
but he's played good D on chandler.  Not a great game, but not awful.

by Freethefro on Mar 17, 2008 9:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if Stojkavich starts hitting
this game is over, he's been open all night and not hitting.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gooden is having another good game.
No room for TT on this team.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Mar 17, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it really sucks
when Gooden is playing like this, you really can't justify taking him out of the game for Tyrus. and I have Tyrus as much as anyone. just a bad situation. maybe someone will want Gooden in the off-season if he keeps playing like this? but would Pax even want to get rid of him? doubtful

by Illini15 on Mar 17, 2008 9:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

someone definitely will
probably the bulls, but there's still no reason TT can't get good minutes too.  Noah hasn't played well enough to get all these minutes tonight.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 9:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pretty clear Tyrus
will be the one traded or released by management.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Mar 17, 2008 9:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

tyrus
if they wanted to trade him they probably already would have.  The way they have spoken, true words are different than actions, the bulls arent trading tyrus unless they are getting something big in return.  Same goes for deng probably.

by Sambossanova on Mar 17, 2008 9:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow
Hughes sucks

by Ed on Mar 17, 2008 9:17 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

um, what did I say?
oh yeah.  get hughes out. now.

by alec on Mar 17, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's the best defender on CP
but what difference does it make?  CP scorches us anyway and Hughes' offense is brutal.  Not just missed shots.  Missed shots that were awful to begin with!

by Freethefro on Mar 17, 2008 9:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hughes
one-man implosion right now. completely lackadaisical

by Illini15 on Mar 17, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Bulls are a joke.
Boylan is a joke.

Paxson is a joke.

Yet again, no interior defense combined with bad perimeter defenders costs us the lead.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Mar 17, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmm
he's been hurtin for like 2 months now but other than that no...

by Sambossanova on Mar 17, 2008 9:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What is sad is....
I would have been more surprised if they didn't start coughing up the lead.

by BoxingHideout on Mar 17, 2008 9:19 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did Boylan just put Gooden at the five again?

Unreal.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Mar 17, 2008 9:21 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We got rid of the 5
We're working on a 0-4 system now.

by BoxingHideout on Mar 17, 2008 9:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

to be fair
bonzi or peja is playing power forward right now.

by Sambossanova on Mar 17, 2008 9:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Then go big and get a size advantage
Why does Boylan always let the other team dictate matchups?

by Big D on Mar 17, 2008 9:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmm
watch chandler kill us on the boards right now...this reminds me of some other nights lineups. gooden as center and deng at Pf. sweeeeeet.

by Sambossanova on Mar 17, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the 5th "get larry hughes" out comment
he has been responsible for blowing the last three possessions (jacked up jumpshot, one on one brick with shotclock running out, turnover leading to fastbreak).

larry hughes is a black hole. once you pass him the ball, he keeps it for a contested shot or turns it over.

by Orange Juice on Mar 17, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

interesting lineup
it's almost long, but still small.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate Boylan
Someone can explain me this lineup?

by bull83 on Mar 17, 2008 9:23 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, how did Chandler get that lob?

oh yeah, cause he is over seven feet and he is being guarded by Drew F'in Gooden.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Mar 17, 2008 9:24 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

isnt it a bit early
to be coughing up timeouts liike that boylan?

by Sambossanova on Mar 17, 2008 9:24 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boylan at his best
Here's a thought, maybe Gooden is tired of doing everything 4 us.

Bring Tyrus in!

by Option27 on Mar 17, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With Hinrich playing invisible
The Bulls were forced to play Hughes and Gordon in the back court. What happened to Thabo?

by RogersPark Kris on Mar 17, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

quit complaining about boylan
Our team just stinks, we don't have a legit post and are made up of  quitters.

by armstrong2389 on Mar 17, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A lack of a post player cost us this game?
Sweet moses.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Mar 17, 2008 9:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh sure...
....because Kirk, Gordon, Luol, Tyrus, and Nocioni have ALL been known as quitters.  When they made the Final Four and won titles - and in Noc's case an Olympic Gold Medal (right?) - they were total quitters.  When they won 49 games together last season they were quitters.  

Oh, and Noah too - he's ALWAYS been stamped as a quitter.

Whatever.  I'd be a f$%(ing quitter if I had an idiot boss like Boylan too.  Except that I can find another high-paying technical project manager job no problem.  These guys have no place to go.  

Especially Ben and Luol - they're stuck with a f-ing moron head coach who is trying to ruin their career and f#$# them on their next contract.

by BullsFanInSeattle on Mar 17, 2008 9:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WOW.
Deja Vu, anyone? Seems like Philly all over again!

by Tess1881 on Mar 17, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, Gooden ruined his effort
with two dumb TO's at critical junctures.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Mar 17, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stacey, they are able to trap BG
because BG doesn't have anywhere near the handles that CP does.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 9:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the other thing is
Noah is not nearly high enough to pick up CP, he shouldn't let him turn the corner.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 9:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

boylan
is overmatched
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Mar 17, 2008 9:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OH NO!!!
I WAS SURE THAT THEY HAD THIS ONE IN THE BAG< I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!!!!!

...oh wait, i saw this coming before tip off...craptastic!

Kirk Hinrich. The FORMER Best White American Point Guard in the NBA, Will Soon be Traded :(

by piccolomair on Mar 17, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i hope...
 the bulls lose every game... thats why i watch them.. screw the playoffs..

by Dr0ne420 on Mar 17, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Credit to Stacy King
For calling out the abuse the Bulls are getting from Chris Paul. Embarassing.

by cjurmann on Mar 17, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's not that embarrassing
Paul might be the MVP of the league this year.  He's done this to a lot of teams all season long.  This collapse doesn't bother me as much as the Sixers collapse did.

by Big D on Mar 17, 2008 9:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's MVP of the league....
then there's 15-21 shooting, 35 points, 13 assists and 3 steals. Oh, and no one seems to be even attempting to guard him when he attacks the basket.

by cjurmann on Mar 17, 2008 9:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

man
I wish the bulls had chris paul instead of hincrap.  Are they going to be able to resign him easily?  Probably no chance he leaves.

by Sambossanova on Mar 17, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's take shots at Hinrich
Even though he only got to play 15 minutes in Boylan's candy lineups.

by gobulls1124 on Mar 17, 2008 9:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He played little enough at the end
to be the only Bull to finish with a positive +/- at +9.

Kirk did have a horrible shooting night, but I didn't think he looked any worse than everybody else on defense.  They just did a miserable job on Paul overall.

Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Mar 17, 2008 9:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This year's team is an embarrasment
to the franchise.

So much for talking to the squad about how to preserve a lead, you fucking big-nosed ass tickler Boylan.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Mar 17, 2008 9:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Consiperacy theory
The bulls are tanking to get a higher draft pick so they can package is with hinrich or hughes or whomever.

by Sambossanova on Mar 17, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That would make sense
If hinrich or hughes or "whoever" were playing decent while we were tanking. Yet Right now, any of our players is much like a Ben Wallace. A guy who had/has potential, but has ultimately peaked, stopped trying, or both of those combined. In other words, no one would want our guys. The bulls will probably get rid of ben gordon in the offseason, and he might be the best trade bait we have.
Kirk Hinrich. The FORMER Best White American Point Guard in the NBA, Will Soon be Traded :(

by piccolomair on Mar 17, 2008 9:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

all the teams right behind the bulls won
the bulls could get as high as 8th by the end of the season.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boylan
I'm feeling bad for the guy.  Anybody see the bags under the dude's eyes?  He looked like Emporer Palatine from Star Wars.  A horrible coach, undoubtedly - and probably realizing it - but that dude looked on the edge.

by Freethefro on Mar 17, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

honestly
i hope he blows his brains out after taking drew and larry out, hopefully pax too

by ihatenoce on Mar 17, 2008 9:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hard to fault Boylan tonight
I thought he coached a decent game.  He stayed with Gooden and Noah throughout the 4th, gave Tyrus one  lengthy stint early on, gave everyone minutes...

Would've liked to see some Tyrus on Chandler with Chandler's inability to score and Paul's ability to get to the lane at will.  But you couldn't take out Gooden when he was putting up 20 and 10.

This one falls on Larry Hughes, who got Ryan Bowened in the 4th.

by YaoPau on Mar 17, 2008 9:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

our defense of chris paul tonight was humiliating
and it reflects poorly once again on boylan

by ihatenoce on Mar 17, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was a playoff hungry finish if i've ever..
..seen one, to bad it was by the hornets

by ihatenoce on Mar 17, 2008 9:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, Bumbling Boylan, when you are facing Chris
Paul, maybe a backcourt of Gordon and Hughes isn't the best defensive match-up, eh? Eh? Huh?

Tard.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Mar 17, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hinrich deserves a lot of blame too
Maybe he should have just stayed home with Duhon, because he was terrible tonight.

by Big D on Mar 17, 2008 9:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

give hima break on that one
hinrich wasnt doing any better and he isnt the type of matchup thabo is good at.  Actually, Duhon might have done a better job.

What they needed was tyrus in the middle to block shots but they were going small and tyrus is bad guarding the perimeter.  

by Sambossanova on Mar 17, 2008 9:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

14 games under .500 now
I think that's the new low point of the season.  But yeah, I'm sure the turnaround will start any day now.

by Big D on Mar 17, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How many games can the Bulls be leading in
and then lose late? It must be completely demoralizing. Not too long before we see the white flag.

by RogersPark Kris on Mar 17, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Better Question would be
Out of how many time he shot the ball, did it actually go in?
Kirk Hinrich. The FORMER Best White American Point Guard in the NBA, Will Soon be Traded :(

by piccolomair on Mar 17, 2008 9:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Small Lineup Didn't Work?
I was really thinking this was the time. It was due.

by BoxingHideout on Mar 17, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the thing is
Stacey is right, until the bulls start knocking guys on their asses, they are going to beat like this.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Outscored by 20 in the 4th - AGAIN
When a team regularly leads after 3 quarters and then folds like a house of cards in the 4th -

THAT'S COACHING!!

by BullsFanInSeattle on Mar 17, 2008 9:35 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WAKE UP PAX! PLEASE WAKE UP!
Someone knows how many time will Pax take to fire Boylan) He's so bad, that he doesn't learn with his mistakes. And he makes mistakes after mistakes, game after game. On the fourth quarter is always the same thing. Why does he uses that small lineaup? It's Deng, or BG, or Hinrich that are bad... BOYLAN IS THE PROBLEM

by bull83 on Mar 17, 2008 9:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

boylan
common, they arent gonna fire the coach at this point in the season.  Firing two coaches in one season would be pretty humiliating but fitting.

by Sambossanova on Mar 17, 2008 9:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fire Boylan
With like a dozen or so games remaining? To accomplish what exactly?
Kirk Hinrich. The FORMER Best White American Point Guard in the NBA, Will Soon be Traded :(

by piccolomair on Mar 17, 2008 9:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boylan reminds me of
Dave Wannstedt. Not sure why, he just does.

by RogersPark Kris on Mar 17, 2008 9:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

PREFECT!
Yeah he does have that look to him.  Just a confused man he is.

by Takeaseat on Mar 17, 2008 9:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe it's this look:
or maybe the odd resemblance to Charles Logan.  Naaaah, it's the crappiness.  I hate Boylan.
BAB Tyrus Love-Meter -- 7 - Unhealthily making excuses for missing practice

by cubbybear on Mar 17, 2008 10:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To be fair....
....Dave Wannstedt made the playoffs and beat the Vikings in Minnesota - the only time that the Bears and Vikings have ever met in the playoffs.  

Wannstedt was also the top assistant on several Super Bowl champion teams.

Boylan is a career assistant on mediocre-to-shitty ballclubs, his head coaching stints have been abysmal, and he hasn't been a key part of a successful team in over 3 decades.

Jim Boylan makes Dave Wannstedt look like Mike Holmgren.

by BullsFanInSeattle on Mar 17, 2008 9:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we scored 4 points in the last 7 minutes of the
game, i can't believe chris paul embarrassed us just like he did in chicago, i wonder if boylan just sleeps through video sessions because he loses so much sleep coming up with rediculous lineups and rotations

by ihatenoce on Mar 17, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One more bad game for Kirk
Oh how about that TRUE point guard play

by Takeaseat on Mar 17, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he must of loved
those to's by gooden

by ihatenoce on Mar 17, 2008 9:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

did you watch the game?
Kirk didn't get enough minutes to play a bad game.  It's hard to pin this one on him.  He didn't score a point, but somehow managed to be +9.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 9:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah, boylan forced a
shitty game on kirk with the rotation tonite

by ihatenoce on Mar 17, 2008 9:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

other than an 0-6
how was he bad?  4 boards and 5 assists to one TO in 16 minutes is actually pretty good, and he was +9, so the team was playing well.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 9:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow
Only in Chicago can we be happy with 0 points and 5 assists from our point guard. He was lucky that they only played him 16 minutes.

by RogersPark Kris on Mar 17, 2008 9:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hopefully you can do the math
and figure out how many assists and boards that would be in Hughes 38 minutes.  Especially since Hughes only had 4 assists and 2 boards for the game.  But he scored, right?
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 9:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hopefully you can understand my point
That those numbers would have lost you the game and are not good enough.

by RogersPark Kris on Mar 17, 2008 9:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

12 assists and 10 boards?
but since he didn't score, you think it's bad.  he's the point guard, not the shooting guard.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 10:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now you're just making up stats.
Kirk most likely would have got into foul trouble, even with if he was able to keep up the pace and get these mythical 12 assists while shooting 0 for 12. they took him out in the first place because he looked terribly slow trying to guard Paul.

by RogersPark Kris on Mar 17, 2008 10:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you'll see tomorrow
how many points CP scored and when.  I'd say he looked a lot better in the fourth than in the first half.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 10:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did i miss something?
When in the HELL did Kirk ever have a 0pts, 10+ast and 10+rbs? Bullshitter WHY ARE YOU MAKING STUFF UP?

by Takeaseat on Mar 17, 2008 10:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Getaclue
would be a lot more appropriate
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 11:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks Kris
These other guys need to start thinking about why he only played 16mins vs the fact that he did. This guy is not a leader and that shows time after time.  He cant step up to the pressure of playing against elite guards... he's just too slow.

by Takeaseat on Mar 17, 2008 9:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pick on the 0 points all you want
but it's ridiculous to be upset with 5 assists in 16 minutes.  Paul's per 40 assist rate tonight was 12.4 - Kirk's per 40 rate was 12.5.
Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Mar 17, 2008 10:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stop it.
Putting Kirk in the same sentence as Chris Paul is like putting a silk hat on a pig.  Hey, let's prorate everyone's stats to show how good they could have been!  Ben Wallace had games where he had 7 boards in 24 minutes but he was not going to pull down 14 in that game.

by messwiththebull on Mar 17, 2008 10:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gee, forgive me for disagreeing with you
but that's the point of prorated stats - to be able to compare what people are doing in spite of playing different minutes.  Kirk can't do anything from the bench, and Boylan has shown absolutely no rhyme or reason in his rotations.  You'll notice I said to pick on the 0 points - he had a horrible shooting night.  No one was effective guarding Paul, but go ahead and pick on Kirk for that as well.  But I find it completely unreasonable to be upset with 5 assists in 16 minutes - or the 4 rebounds for that matter.  

I put Paul's assist ratio in for comparison, which is hardly the same as saying that Kirk and Chris Paul are synonymous.

Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Mar 17, 2008 10:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I respect your point
and I did not intend to portray otherwise.  I just responded to you as I would to someone in a bar who uttered a sentence with Kirk Hinrich and Chris Paul in it.  The main difference between those two is that only one is an NBA point guard.
Kirk's really good at guarding two's, though, so I guess it all evens out.

by messwiththebull on Mar 17, 2008 10:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I apologize for taking offense where none was
intended.  It's a bit testy in here tonight!

And for the record, I have never once spoken even a paragraph, much less a sentence, in a bar which included both Kirk's and Chris Paul's names in it.

Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Mar 17, 2008 10:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i meant to say he was fine
and it was shitty he only played 16 minutes

by ihatenoce on Mar 17, 2008 9:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He had just enogh mins to let Chris Paul
Run off 37pts and 13ast.   is this the second game hes been burned by his opposing PG.  Face it that dude is a myth

by Takeaseat on Mar 17, 2008 9:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

chris paul burned every other bull
more than kirk, and boylan saw fit to sit kirk rather than say...larry gd hughes

by ihatenoce on Mar 17, 2008 9:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree that he needs to find a place on the
bench for Larry no doubt Thabo should be playing more. He trys to put this running team on the floor but problem is Gooden, Larry and Gordan are offensive minded players.  This is one game that putting Duhon in would have been a good idea.

by Takeaseat on Mar 17, 2008 9:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hughes is a defensive player, has been 10 years
Hughes is your defensive player, you don't get paid 14m for 14pts per game over a career, he has always been a defensive player in the NBA, but your not going to get that out of him playing the point. Most look at points and shots, not how many points a player takes away from the other team.  What you want Hughes for is your 2nd guard and you  need a true high caliber point guard.  Yes, he can handle the ball well enough to play point, but your not going to get his game from that position,  to get a season average high steals, or lead the league at that position with steals, by far your best defender on the team.  A streak player, yes, but when said and done, you don't want him on the bench.  Plus your not going to get the slashes to the basket putting him at the point (see Cleveland, though he did get them to the finals).  Get Arenas, then you got a shot for next year, with Noah growing.  Deng (Ding) 0-4 in the 4th quarter inside the line? No points from your big man?  Your guards aren't your biggest problem, you need a few more years of maturity in the paint.  Too many broken plays are no plays being run at all.  Sorry, its too late for this many new players on any team  at this time of year, Cleveland will suffer the same, players need a couple months before they will gel and this team doesn't even no who is going to be their coach. It's coming around, next year will be much better.  This year, watch Boston get nailed in 4 or 5 games.

by Homegrown on Mar 17, 2008 11:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Larry gd Hughes
How's that for a nickname, LOL
"Duhon, don't make that garbage-time jumper... Save it for the next game!"

by bullhockey on Mar 18, 2008 10:57 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Depressing
It sucks watching your Basketball Idol playing as bad as you do. The Goal was him to play great, and me to expire to be like him, instead it seems his ability has lowered to my level. Garbage...more than anything thats whats really kicking me down. I hope its just a one season thing, but if next year he is playing the same...then i think ill officially give up on him. Steve nash, John stockton....bah....:(
Kirk Hinrich. The FORMER Best White American Point Guard in the NBA, Will Soon be Traded :(

by piccolomair on Mar 17, 2008 9:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't you think expiring is a bit extreme?
It's obvious from your comments tonight that you're highly disappointed in Kirk, but I don't think you can really judge anyone on the team based on this mess of a season.  All we really know is that none of them individually are strong enough to carry the mess alone, which we really pretty much should have known to start with.  
Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Mar 17, 2008 9:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm
Sorry i didnt mean expire, meant aspire. Like i said its just depressing to watch your favorite player play like crap, and not have a reason for it. I guess i could run with the fact that he hates boylan, and boylan is an idiot. But that will only work until next season. So heres hoping hinrich is a beast next season.

At the moment though im too down on this team to have that kind of hope....meaning ill believe it when i see it.

Kirk Hinrich. The FORMER Best White American Point Guard in the NBA, Will Soon be Traded :(

by piccolomair on Mar 18, 2008 11:29 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can someone get me David Stern
Kirk Hinrich is waiting for his MVP trophy

by TRiCioNeRo on Mar 17, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I want Paxson to publicly
apologize to the fans.

I don't want to hear another mealey-mouthed speech about effort and injuries and the difficult exigencies of the NBA.

I want groveling.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Mar 17, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't worry
I'm sure Boylan will make some big speech tonight about "embarrassing" the city of Chicago.  Of course, he won't include himself in that, but it will fool dumb fans into thinking he's showing accountability.

by Big D on Mar 17, 2008 9:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

PLAYOFFS??!!
Jim Mora said it best, let's just hope that they can win a game the rest of this season!

by Tess1881 on Mar 17, 2008 9:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why
at this point, I want them to lose all the rest.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 9:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's not....
...and say we did.

It's Derrick Rose or bust, wins be damned.  I'll be pissed if they DO win a game, because it'll just be a mistake.  If they win a game it's because Boylan didn't seize the opportunity to totally F it up.

by BullsFanInSeattle on Mar 17, 2008 9:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As miserable as the team looks
(and we all sound, for that matter), who even wants to make the playoffs at this point?  It's to the point that I'm just ready for the season to be over - send the guys home to lick their wounds and get their heads on straight, then let's just come back next year (not with this exact team, nor coach, mind you) and start over fresh.  I'm too demoralized to even want to hope to make the playoffs and not get swept.
Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Mar 17, 2008 9:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How out of touch is Norm Van Lier?
He's going on and on about knocking down Chris Paul - you can't do that anymore in today's game!  Players get suspended for plays that wouldn't have even been called flagrants in Norm's day.

by Big D on Mar 17, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Norm's not out of touch...
...he's exactly right. No one on the Bulls could stop him, he ran circles around them, got anywhere he wanted... The Bulls needed to trap him more and just get the ball out of his hands. And if/when that failed, they should have fouled him hard when he got in the lane. Norm didn't say take off his head, or kick him when he was down- just foul him hard enough to make him think twice about going into the lane next time. And foul him hard enough to prevent the bucket on the and-1. So IMO he's exactly right.  

by smash on Mar 18, 2008 10:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pax should Billy Donavan these guys
they dont deserve the Berto Center
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Mar 17, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Feel Like Crying.
But that would mean that I actually care about this current Bulls team, which I don't. Well, not any more , at least.

by Tess1881 on Mar 17, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is anyone listening to this moron?
 
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Mar 17, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Someone should
Take this game thread, and the game thread from the first bulls game this season and send it to paxson. Show him how a bunch of diehard bulls fans, who seemed to always find the light in the darkness, the silver lining in the clouds, fell into a bunch of bored moping depressed bunch of sad fools. Man...horrid.
Kirk Hinrich. The FORMER Best White American Point Guard in the NBA, Will Soon be Traded :(

by piccolomair on Mar 17, 2008 9:46 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he probably already reads this
and just does the opposite of what we want cause he is such an asshole

by ihatenoce on Mar 17, 2008 9:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Norm Van Lier....
...says the players lack heart.  Whatever.

Norm never had to play for a complete fucking moron head coach.

It has a way of being very...um....disheartening.

by BullsFanInSeattle on Mar 17, 2008 9:47 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I fucking don't care how many games remain
For me it could remain only one... I just can see anymore a guy like Boylan, that can't make one thing right, coaching the bulls... If the goal is try to win a good position on the draft, they have to tell the fans... We deserve that, not this miserable losses...
I just want to see Boylan out of there...

by bull83 on Mar 17, 2008 9:47 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Bulls are a fucking joke
This fucking team doesn't give a fuck if they make the playoffs or not. Like Norm Van Leer says, this team has no fucking heart. All the fucking talent in world and they can't finish games. When CP3 tied the game with the 3, the Bulls fell apart. Once Tyson slammed home that lob, I knew the game was over. I have pretty much gave up on this team. It's not the fact they are losing, it's the fact they don't fucking care. They should be fucking booed tommorow when they go on the court and the fans should just read a newspaper when the 4th quarter starts. The Bulls feel they only have to play for 3 quarters, so why the fuck should the fans be interested for the entire game. This team is a joke. They have playoff caliber talent but like Kendall Gill said this team has a bunch of fucking mental midgets. Sorry for the rant but this team is pissing me off. This team doesn't care about their fans or making the playoffs. They just show up just to collect their paychecks. They don't play like a team. They care more about themselves than they do about the entire team. Sloppy passes and too many bad shots. They have no heart. I'm embarrassed to admit I still watch their games. To say they are pieces of shit is an insult to shit.

by traderumor on Mar 17, 2008 10:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GOD I HATE OUR TEAM!
BOYLAN IS THE WORST COACH I'VE EVER SEEN IN THE NBA!

HUGHES WAS ON A "HUGHES" NIGHT, WHERE HE FORGOT THAT PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL IS A TEAM SPORT....

WHY DIDN'T BOYLAN CHANGE THINGS UP EARLIER IN THE 4TH AND PLAY MORE SEFALOSHA AND HINRICH?

I don't care if Kirk sucked early on, something's not right there, Kirk and Boylan hate each other, and I think it's painfully obvious to all of us fans that Boylan can't coach.....

Hinrich ain't as bad as he's showing, and he definately deserves more than 10-15 minutes per game to show his skills.  I think the past 4 years have proven that.

I am so fed up with this team, I might be done watching them until next season.

Noah looked like a rookie tonight.  I know he is a rookie, but he did not have a good game.

Deng again blended into the shadows far too much.

If Gordon wasn't on our team we would have lost by 45 points.

It's just so freaking frustrating.  Cut the cord Pax, get Boylan out while you still have a few fans who at least want to see the team progress into the future.....

by majoyenrac on Mar 17, 2008 9:49 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chaos always rules when the bobble-headed bubble
rain revs up his 4th quarter master plan. In the final 7 minutes where coaching decisions really make a difference, the Bulls were outscored 24-4.
It's all Kirk's fault...wait! he only played 97 seconds during that stretch right after Noah was taken out..the lead went from 93-92 to a 96-98 deficit..(I know..insurmountable during Boylan's reign). During this mini-stint, he assisted the Bull's only basket!  and yes he was +9 for the game

The next best? or least worse (+/-) was the forgotten man, Thomas who was -2, but don't blame him...he never plays during crunch time...Boylan would not want to put any defensive shot blockers to pressure their layup drills or possibly grab a rebound or 2.

Our guards did a great job...the stats speak for themselves  Hughes (-10) in the final 7 minutes, he was 0-2, comitted 3 fouls and had a turnover.

Ben again demonstrated why he will never be a great defender (-23).  But give him credit for making 3 of our final 4 points while  missing one free throw and had a turnover...low for him.
It wasn't only CP that put the dagger in...Pargo was (+16) while Bonzi Wells was an amazing (+23).
Let's blame Nocioni...but we can't he didn't play at all during that collapse..Duhon never made the trip, so he's off the list.
Gooden came thru big time 0-2,and a foul. An exhausted Deng,right on cue, performed his 4th quarter magic disappearing act.  Boylan USE your fucking head and your bench. Some players do get tired after playing 43 minutes, especially if they are coming off injuries..pathetic nitwit.

Mix your magic potion into the pot, stir quickly and once again we have Boylan's recipe for disaster..bitter taste and guaranteed to destroy any NBA franchise who sips its brew.

by Tyrusmancrush on Mar 18, 2008 1:53 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And furthrmore, I forgot Boylan's explanation
which sums up the totality of his thinking processes.
'that's 2 games in row we controlled the game for 3 quarters  AND THEN....SOMEHOW (duh!) SOMETHING ALWAYS HAPPENS (double duh!) and we again get outscored by 20 points in the 4th quarter.  Is it any wonder why the Bulls are so successful with their late game adjustments?

Only a man of great intellect could offer such insights and profound thoughts with such clarity and substance.....Forrest Gump where are you when we need you!

by Tyrusmancrush on Mar 18, 2008 2:08 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Buck the Fulls - Buck Foylan
No heart - like Norm said.
When is the last time Kirk AND Noc didn't score?

All those ex-Bulls on winning teams...
Tyson Chandler is laughing his ass off....

Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Mar 17, 2008 9:49 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That might be the biggest story
coming out of this game, Boylan somehow managed to put out the fire that is Noc.  Did you see him collect his second foul so he could go sit down.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 10:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought it was because
Noc's hair doo of late is making him look like a 70's porn star...    LOL
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Mar 17, 2008 10:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and the bench video shots are classic
Kirk sitting there slumped over and looking miserable, and Noc is sitting there chewing his fingernails down to nubs...
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Mar 17, 2008 10:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I find that really depressing.
Boylan broke Noc.

No matter what you think about Noc and his style of play and his contract and his place on the team, he has always been pretty consistently Noc - right up until now.  Maybe it's just this game, but he looked miserable tonight.

Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Mar 17, 2008 10:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You asked for it...
Thought I'd make a shirt to commemorate your comment...

by Lt.Dan on Mar 18, 2008 9:37 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice!
Although you should make one in response to the Wizard T-shirts modeled after the Beatles:

http://32049.spreadshirt.com/us/US/Shop/Article/Index/article/1855797

Only the Bulls' version should say:
Andres &
Luol &
Boylan Sucks &
Boylan Sucks &
Boylan Sucks

"Duhon, don't make that garbage-time jumper... Save it for the next game!"

by bullhockey on Mar 18, 2008 11:14 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tyrus, no excuses you have the rest of season to
prove you are not a bust. He was given the starting job at the beginning of the season and lost it. Instead of working his ass off and playing with a chip on his shoulder like at LSU he packed it in and quit on himself and the team. If Noah isn't enough motivation for you to start playing better then I don't think anything could be. Noah is probably in his face in practice telling him to get better.

by armstrong2389 on Mar 17, 2008 9:50 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is he supposed to prove it from the bench?
Perhaps he is writing a formal proof underneath his towel.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Mar 17, 2008 9:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tyrus' minutes
are actually down since the trade.  Remember that game on the road in Golden State when Tyrus went nuts in the 4th and carried the team to a win?  He played 11 minutes the next game and 8 minutes the game after.  He must have really had a poor practice.

The one thing that this season has shown is that both Gordon and Deng aren't even worth the $10m/yr starting offer they were presented with last year.  Deng should along the lines of Josh Childress or Danny Granger (certainly not Josh Howard money), because it's arguable if he's a better player and if he has a higher ceiling.  Gordon should get a deal along the lines of Monta Ellis and Leandro Barbosa for the same reason.  We prematurely pegged these guys as perennial all-stars when it's questionable if these guys will ever make an all-star team.  

by messwiththebull on Mar 17, 2008 10:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're absolutely right...
...in Bizarro world.

Tyrus was benched after putting up good numbers as a starter, for Gooden - who hadn't yet earned the right to start for the Bulls.  Doesn't he have to earn it, or is that only for younger players??

And now Boylan is yanking his chain, not giving him consistent minutes night in and night out, not playing him for long stretches after good games, etc.

You think Noah is in Ty's face?  What makes you think he's not in Boylan's face?

Boylan is a fucking moron, and Tyrus is paying the price.  Tyrus doesn't have a chance with a fucking moron for a head coach.

by BullsFanInSeattle on Mar 17, 2008 9:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whatever
TT isn't going anywhere.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 9:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you're likely right
although Sam disagrees.

Even if the Bulls realize they can't trade him now because they've (with some help from Tyrus himself) destroyed his trade value, it sure would've been nice that the played him enough to have the option of dealing him in a package for an upgrade.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 18, 2008 3:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sam's been
wrong once or twice. I don't think TT is going anywhere.

by sue369 on Mar 18, 2008 4:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is only ONE good that came from Boylan
That is the life in Thabo. So thank you Boylan for putting the Swiss back on track...he truly looks like a good player and will be a good backcourt mate to a solid guard.
Kirk Hinrich. The FORMER Best White American Point Guard in the NBA, Will Soon be Traded :(

by piccolomair on Mar 17, 2008 9:53 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One thing is for certain
This Bulls sesaon is officially over. Oh well, time for baseball!! GO SOX!!!!

by Tess1881 on Mar 17, 2008 9:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trade the whole team
fire the coach, fire Pax.
Bring in a whole new team and staff.
Get rid of ALL the cancer.

Start over.

Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Mar 17, 2008 9:57 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Think we will lose out this season?
Who are the draft prospects for this team now? Mayo, Billy Walker, Collison, Westbrook, Blake Griffin?

by armstrong2389 on Mar 17, 2008 9:59 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they probably won't get higher than eighth
but this isn't a sure thing draft, so they might be able to trade up.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 10:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blake Griffin? Hell no
The last thing we need is another young big

Pax needs to do whatever he can to trade up for Rose, but let's be serious...that's not happening.

by Illini15 on Mar 17, 2008 10:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Bulls have more than enought to offer....
...in order to move up:  their lottery pick, Kirk, Hughes, Gooden, sign & trade Gordon or Luol, whatever.

But if you mean that Paxson doesn't have the balls to take a risk and move up - you're probably right.

by BullsFanInSeattle on Mar 17, 2008 10:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who would give up a top 3 pick
for the players you named unless the Bulls themselves had a top three pick to throw in?  No one, especially if it comes along with the privilege of overpaying two of those guys with new deals.

by messwiththebull on Mar 17, 2008 10:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In general I agree....
....but the Trailblazers traded INTO the draft to get Brandon Roy, right?  There's a Kevin McHale born every day.

by BullsFanInSeattle on Mar 17, 2008 10:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah,
they gave up the seventh pick to get Roy who was taken with the 6th.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 10:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But didn't they....
....trade into the #7 pick?  That wasn't theirs to begin with.

They earned the #4 for the whole Aldridge/Thomas thing.  

by BullsFanInSeattle on Mar 17, 2008 10:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

probably
like the bulls did into the 2 spot.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 18, 2008 12:09 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here's something to brighten everyone up
Ben Wallace had 2 points and 4 rebounds tonight in 22 minutes, and the Cavs got blown out by the Magic.

by Big D on Mar 17, 2008 10:03 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least we have each other
"to the children: Fuck the Bulls." - Matt

by NittanyBull on Mar 17, 2008 10:04 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pax will make a big move
I think pax could move up. He's under the gun and knows he has to put a good product on the floor since they raised tickets significantly this year.

by armstrong2389 on Mar 17, 2008 10:05 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Big Move?
Like he has every of the past couple of seasons?  Paxson has lost all credibility in my eyes.  Jim Boylan is the biggest joke in the league, I'd rather have Pippen coaching.  

I think Paxson should lose his job just based on the Boylan as interim head coach experiment.  He did have a choice he could of brought someone else in who was going to play "the kids", but he hired Jim Boylan "Professional Coach"

John Paxson Has Got to Go!

by Wade.Jones on Mar 17, 2008 10:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm sorry but after that Philly game i just
dont care anymore. Boylan refuses to play Thabo and Tyrus. From here on out I just want to see BG, Thabo, Noah, Tyrus and Deng playing extended mins.  But Boylan isnt gonna let that happen so I just so i just do care anymore. They'll put themselves in the lottery... this team needs to tough guys anyway they are too soft.

by Takeaseat on Mar 17, 2008 10:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if you don't care
what are the chances you stop posting?
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 17, 2008 10:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rose could turn this whole thing around
Look at what CP has done. He's made less-than-stellar players into all-stars in no time

by Illini15 on Mar 17, 2008 10:09 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unfortunately
We're not terrible enough to likely land him.

by BoxingHideout on Mar 17, 2008 10:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and
that's why we should start hoping to lose every game at this point

by Illini15 on Mar 17, 2008 10:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uh
At least we're the best at losing in the fourth quarter.  13-33?  I'm so glad I didn't watch this one.  I might have killed a small animal.
BAB Tyrus Love-Meter -- 7 - Unhealthily making excuses for missing practice

by cubbybear on Mar 17, 2008 10:15 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Bulls have no heart/no interest
They don't care if they win or lose and that pisses me off. I can support teams that lose but play their asses off. I can't support teams that are very talented but have no interest in winning. People are right....the Bulls don't deserve to make the playoffs no matter how talented they are. Great talent but they are fucked up in the head.

by traderumor on Mar 17, 2008 10:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boylan was praising noc, recently now benching him
Where was Noc tonight? The guy is certainly good enough to play 20 minutes on this team.

by armstrong2389 on Mar 17, 2008 10:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey everyone take a look at the
BULLSHITTER idea? He came up with prorating Bulls stats. So if Kirk plays only 16mins with stats suchas 0pts, 5ast and 4rbs he actually gets credit for 10ast and 10rbs. So it's kinda like handicapping get it?  This is pretty good ima send it to the league and see what they think.

by Takeaseat on Mar 17, 2008 10:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why don't you at least represent the comment
accurately.  He was commenting on Kirk's production relative to time played.  That's how per minute stats work, and pretty much every stats site has them posted that way as well as per game.
Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Mar 17, 2008 10:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

U wanna know why?
Because i don't play fantasy basketball or fantasy anything for that matter. Its like saying, 'hey i won 4 out of 10 black jack games, i should play on' when we all know over the next 10 games if you just so happen to go 8 of 20 that makes you even a bigger loser! So, therefore I wont even entertain that thought process. Its just silliness. In this game you need to be either a baller or scrub pick one! Kirk is the worst kind of player, he's in between, simple see. ;) Like middle of the road basketball team (LA Clippers) no shot at winning but they show up so i guess we should give them credit.

I don't need to think about it or create silly little what if scenarios, the proof is in the pudding and the fact is the guy has been in the league for like five years and still plays like he's in college. He needs to learn to adapt to the play of the league and stop sinking my Bulls with his huge contract and his soft game.

by Takeaseat on Mar 18, 2008 12:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The following is not a compliment
"In this game you need to be either a baller or scrub pick one! Kirk is the worst kind of player, he's in between, simple see."

You sound like Zapp Brannigan opining with respect to the intractable enemy of neutrality.

I hope your commentary was intended as pastiche:

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality? [...] I hate these filthy neutrals, Kif! With enemies, you know where they stand, but with neutrals--who knows. It sickens me."

by jpx7 on Mar 18, 2008 8:07 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ONE QUESTION
Are you high sir :-?

by Takeaseat on Mar 18, 2008 10:40 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK, as an fyi
Per minute stats have nothing to do with fantasy basketball - fantasy just adds up game totals for your guys.

Per minute stats are used to standardize a player's stats for a given night so that the variable of minutes played no longer distorts things.  It's one of several very common statistical tools used in regular, every day basketball evaluation.

If you don't like stats, as it seems you don't, fine - but when you try to make fun of something you don't understand it can come across as pretty idiotic.

Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Mar 18, 2008 10:39 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's hard to
reason with mental midgets.

by sue369 on