Gordon and Hinrich vs. Boylan
A pretty interesting take from the ESPN Weekend Dime on why Tyrus skipped practice:
There's no excusing Chicago's Tyrus Thomas for his methodology. Skipping a practice is always going to be a suspendable offense, especially when practice is skipped without at least calling the team first to let someone know you'll be absent, thereby sparing your bosses from fearing the worst.However ...
I'm told that Thomas legitimately believed he was going to prevent another distraction in a Bulls season filled with them when he didn't show for last Wednesday's workout.
The story, as I hear it from one team insider, is that Thomas had recently witnessed heated confrontations between Bulls coach Jim Boylan and two of Chicago's more veteran players -- Ben Gordon and Kirk Hinrich -- that wound up pitting multiple players against the coaching staff. I'm also told that Thomas figured he was heading for a similarly nasty blowup of his own with Boylan, but that he also concluded that the punishment for an argument with Boylan would be a lot steeper than what Gordon and Hinrich faced, given where he stands in the Bulls' pecking order and the growing stress of a tension-drenched season.
What, you mean these guys don't like being jerked around like this?
And who said anything about a pecking order in "work hard or take a seat next to me" land?

So Thomas -- confused by recent nine-minute stints against Washington and Memphis after being told he'd be getting steady minutes off the bench in the wake of the Bulls trading away Ben Wallace and Joe Smith -- decided that the smartest move was taking a one-day leave to clear his head. He couldn't understand why his minutes had declined so sharply soon after posting a big stat line (18 points, 11 rebounds, four assists, three blocks and two steals) in a victory over Denver. But he preferred staying away to presenting his case directly to Boylan.Not smart. It was obviously flawed thinking from the start, which Thomas conceded in his subsequent apology to his teammates. He had to handle this better, either through his agent or by taking his concerns to Bulls general manager John Paxson if talking to the coach right away was so uncomfortable.
Thomas, however, almost certainly wouldn't have been suspended two games had he simply called in with some sort of story about an illness, car trouble or a dog eating his Berto Center swipe card. That way, Bulls officials wouldn't have been moved to dispatch police officers to Thomas' home after failing to locate him until Wednesday afternoon.
But the inevitable focus on Thomas' lack of judgement shouldn't obscure the fact that the Bulls have been Blowup Central this season, during and since the departure of the famously demanding Scott Skiles on Christmas Eve. Which is why you probably have to expect another coaching change in Chicago before next season -- barring an unforeseen postseason run by the Bulls -- even though Boylan has a passable 17-21 record since taking over to keep them in playoff contention.
Skiles has been gone for almost three months -- and numerous Bulls players (most recently Chris Duhon after L'Affaire Tyrus) have undeniably added to this season's issues with their immaturity -- but the tension never left. Easy as it is to presume that Gordon and Thomas will be traded in the offseason, it's far easier for a franchise to fashion a fresh start with a new staff.
In other words, we've got one reason to like these players. They probably all hate Boylan as much as we do.
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Boylan isn't good, but he's not horrible
by armstrong2389 on Mar 15, 2008 9:14 PM CDT 0 recs
Well
by preverbal on
Mar 15, 2008 9:22 PM CDT
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You are exactly wrong.
He may not only be worse than anyone else you can put out there, he might be worse than no one coaching at all.
by MarketMaker on
Mar 16, 2008 3:42 PM CDT
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Actually
by cubbybear on
Mar 16, 2008 4:48 PM CDT
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More reasons
by sue369 on Mar 15, 2008 9:44 PM CDT 0 recs
Would be nice to hear this from the beat writers
by Big D on Mar 15, 2008 10:29 PM CDT 0 recs
Multiple players vs Boylan?
by Big D on Mar 15, 2008 10:42 PM CDT 0 recs
Dang, beat me to it
by NittanyBull on Mar 16, 2008 12:13 AM CDT 0 recs
I get it
It would really warm my heart to read a story about Tyrus Thomas tooking Boylan straight in the eye and saying "C U Next Thursday" with a wink. I can dream.
by BullsFanInSeattle on Mar 16, 2008 12:23 AM CDT 0 recs
Uh
by cubbybear on Mar 16, 2008 1:28 AM CDT 0 recs
God, no.
I'd rather not see any of our assistants promoted for next season. This coaching staff has lost its players.
by YaoPau on
Mar 16, 2008 2:50 AM CDT
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Tough decisions?
by balta1701 on
Mar 16, 2008 3:41 PM CDT
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They're both bad
by YaoPau on
Mar 16, 2008 10:14 PM CDT
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On the other hand...
by T Maple on Mar 16, 2008 8:20 AM CDT 0 recs
The thing to ask
by balta1701 on
Mar 16, 2008 7:56 PM CDT
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I don't care
by jpx7 on
Mar 16, 2008 8:05 PM CDT
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One thing for sure
Each week there's something new....
I can't wait to here the next big thing on BaB?
by exult463 on Mar 16, 2008 8:12 PM CDT 0 recs
That's freaking hilarious!!!
Oh wait it's Boylan and our "playoff push"....
by majoyenrac on
Mar 17, 2008 11:04 PM CDT
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Holy shit Boylan is incompetent
So it gave me further reason to believe Reggie Theus will be a good NBA coach. The Kings have done better than expected this season, but there have been whispers of some internal issues, one between Kevin Martin and Theus. So Theus asked Martin to offer a written list of requests that would help his happiness level and his game. Martin was thrilled.
"I really haven't worked like this after practice since (former Kings assistant) coach [ Pete] Carril was teaching me stuff," Martin told the Sacramento Bee. "It's good to be taught other parts of the game. I'm having a lot of fun." Remember, NBA players are people too.
Is it really that difficult to talk to a player and let him know that his playing time is going to be cut? Or was Boylan just too much of a pussy to face Duhon man-to-man? It's at least common courtesy to let a player know what his role is going to be.
by Big D on Mar 16, 2008 10:41 PM CDT 0 recs
otoh
by Jaina on
Mar 16, 2008 11:29 PM CDT
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I'm sure he knew it
by Big D on
Mar 16, 2008 11:37 PM CDT
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i agree
"At first, I thought Jim was trying to get a feel for the new guys. He apologized after the [Feb. 24 Houston] game for not getting me in."
so either he had expectations he might play, or boylan led him on, or boylan honestly thought he might get playing time which is completely moronic too. :P
by Jaina on
Mar 17, 2008 7:22 AM CDT
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Agreed
by Sports2 on
Mar 16, 2008 11:52 PM CDT
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Boylan is a pussy, plain & simple
Boylan would tell Duhon face-to-face that his time is going to be slashed down to nothing.
Duhon says "Well, coach, that totally sucks. I'm going to the Duke game tomorrow night in North Carolina."
Boylan says "Okay, but keep a low profile and show up for the game the next day, okay?"
It's called communicating. Boylan and the team would know ahead of time that Duhon is on a side-trip and they wouldn't need to fine him and break a story to the newspapers.
The entire thing would be kept in-house and nobody would know a damn thing happened. The TV cameras would catch Chris Duhon at the Duke game, but nobody would know that he was late the next day. Instead, the team feels the need to fine and embarrass an ballplayer who already put in his time for the team and who is understandably upset.
I blame Paxson for this total f-ing mess, to the extent that he allows the prick Boylan to continue to self-destruct the entire franchise.
by BullsFanInSeattle on Mar 17, 2008 1:35 AM CDT 0 recs
which word?
by preverbal on
Mar 17, 2008 1:54 PM CDT
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"communicating"?
by preverbal on
Mar 17, 2008 1:54 PM CDT
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Hehehe
by Big D on
Mar 17, 2008 2:46 PM CDT
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Gordon denies incident
by paxson43 on Mar 17, 2008 7:13 AM CDT 0 recs
He did
by sue369 on
Mar 17, 2008 9:34 AM CDT
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Gordon has to say that....
He's stuck between a rock and a hard place. He's in a contract year. And he's stuck with an complete moron as a head coach who is ruining his free market value.
Ben is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't. He can't appear that he's a coach-killer in his contract year, even if his coach deserves a big wooden stake through the heart.
Maybe it's true, maybe it's not, but I wouldn't take what Ben says about it too seriously. The poor guy has to eat a big shit sandwich, then turn around and ask if he can have some sprouts on it, too, because it tastes so good.
by BullsFanInSeattle on
Mar 17, 2008 9:49 AM CDT
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not surprising
by hscs on
Mar 17, 2008 9:50 AM CDT
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neither did Sheridan
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Mar 17, 2008 11:02 AM CDT
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At this point it's an act of professionalism
by Sports2 on Mar 17, 2008 11:44 AM CDT 0 recs










