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Sorry to sound like Jimmy 'Feel Good' Boylan, but ya know what? I can't help but believe the Bulls really will make the playoffs this season. As of Tuesday afternoon they're a game out of the 8th seed which is held by New Jersey, a squad that record wise has actually been overachieving (-5.7 point differential to the Bulls -2.8) and has a 'team leader' that wants out.  Plus they can't stay this bad, especially if Luol Deng gets back in a somewhat timely fashion.

But I suppose more important than the possibility of making the playoffs is that the organization has put up a unanimous front declaring that it's the goal to do so. It's a silly goal, but what the hell: I hate draft hype anyway. And they did beat Detroit three times this season, and could be a tough out, and...

But before the great playoff push of '08, there's the trading deadline on Feb. 21st, Pax's last chance to do something with the following goals in mind.

Get rid of Ben Wallace: This will be toughest to accomplish, but it should be Pax's priority to do what he can to rid himself of Wallace as long as it doesn't mean taking on salary extending beyond Wallace's 2 additional years. At least not a lot of it. The much-rumored Kwame+Radmonovic deal (obviously dead with Brown now a Griz) is the low standard that should be explored. Simmons+Gaduric? Thomas+Abdur-Rahim? Walker+Jaric? Basically crap swaps, and while on the one hand it may be better to have one fat expiring deal to move in 2009/2010 than spreading it around, there's also something to be said about at least overpaying someone who you wouldn't feel obligated to play or placate.

Trade Joe Smith (and Nocioni too):  Like I said in my epic Lamar Odom trade proposal, Smith's playing well on a reasonable contract, and should have high value to a contending team. The Bulls should realize they aren't one, and that Smith's year will only revert to the norm and/or give him a case of exploding knees syndrome. Nocioni's contract looks even dumber with the luxury-tax looming, and he's really a 'luxury' ::snicker:: the Bulls can't afford. They should try and deal him while his numbers are respectable, and the 4 years remaining don't look so bad. This will probably work only in tandem with Smith (due to Noc's BYC status) so it may have to wait until the end of the year. It's not just about dealing vets at peak value, it's just as important to free up playing time for Noah and Thomas. As we've seen, even Noah playing well didn't get him a starting gig, and although it may just be a case of veteran showcasing (as if people around the league don't know what Joe Smith can do by now) it just emphasizes the need to clear some minutes room, even if it means dealing one of the few players who've been up to par this season.

Make a low-risk upgrade:  If you're saying you want to make the playoffs, and likely will make the playoffs, why not try to win in the playoffs while you're there? It can't all just be for the guaranteed sellouts, can it? So look to teams who definitely will be doing the tanking dance and get someone who may help. Now, I don't advocate dealing away the future, or taking on long-term money. But the Bulls do have expiring contracts, and when combined they can net someone better who is also on an expiring deal.

Like Duh/Khrap/PeeOn for Ricky Davis (and Chris Quinn, as you'd need an emergency PG), who'd at least shoot the ball. A lot. Or even better, that package is enough money for Corey Maggette, and if you're willing to toss in Thabo (and I might be, long 23-year old wings who can't shoot aren't that hard to replace) maybe the Clippers will bite. If someone really good came along, I'd consider the first-round pick in play.

Again, I don't advocate Pax being too aggressive for the sake of some longshot playoff run this year, but it's possible that any kind of roster shakeup will snap the team out of its malaise. Or at least my malaise.

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I think we should go
for Maggette because hes exactly what we need. Someone who can drive the lane and not depend on jump shots.

by eross226 on Feb 5, 2008 8:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

keep Nocioni
I think keeping Nocioni helps the rotation of the team, yeah we could play better ball if we got rid of him in a trade, but he's a big man that can shoot and rebound. That helps out with larger teams such as the Spurs, Dallas, and the Pistons.  Maggette would be a great addition but do you think role on the team would step on any of the other players feet?

by Hendo g on Feb 6, 2008 12:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

he can shoot
but can't rebound, and he steps on everyone's feet.
Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Feb 6, 2008 12:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You do know
Davis is from Iowa right? Could you stand having two Iowans on the team?
Never went to church camp but I did go to Girl Scout camp. If you ever need help making a campfire I'm your girl. :P

by sue369 on Feb 5, 2008 8:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

as much as id love it
i dont see that deal plus thabo as enough to net maggette.  

and i dont see wallace going anywhere before the deadline; there just aren't that many expiring deals out there, and i doubt johnny no trades would move wallace just for the sake of getting rid of him.  although i kind of like that wallace for simmons/gadzuric idea; they're each young enough and have actually shown the ability to play a little bit at one time in their careers.  plus milwaukee plays god awful interior d so they may actually want wallace.

by Mike C on Feb 5, 2008 9:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

maggette will be a free agent
The Clippers aren't in a position to ask for much.
Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Feb 5, 2008 9:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

with so few teams with cap space
i dont think the clippers feel as though they have to move him.  not many teams are gonna be willing or able to offer him more than the MLE, and if the clippers want to keep him they can offer him substantially more than anyone else.  plus, he's long been a favorite of sterling and dunleavy appears halfway out the door.

by Mike C on Feb 5, 2008 10:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

he'll get more than the mle
Maggette has a player option for 8.4 million (sham sez 7), so he's looking for a raise. There aren't many teams in a position to offer a free agent 10 million per season, but there aren't many free agents better than Maggette, either.

I forgot about the recent Dunleavy blowup.

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Feb 5, 2008 10:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A little off-topic
but do you know how get to the NBA salaries through the tabs from SportsIllustrated? I only know how to get there solely through remembering the url
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez

by NittanyBull on Feb 6, 2008 9:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

nope
I use hoopshype, then check sham's salary page (heard it's more accurate).
Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Feb 6, 2008 9:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez

by NittanyBull on Feb 6, 2008 9:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

On the brightside
looks like Pau will be a bust for the lakers, its not like he went for 24 and 12 and 4 assists in his first game, wait.....god damnit paxson

by bullsfaninla on Feb 5, 2008 9:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What not to do
Don't dump off Tyrus to the Spurs or any team before giving him a legitimate run on the court to see what you really have as a player.  You could be sitting on Shawn Marion or Josh Smith here.  I'd have to think something is wrong with Tyrus' practice habits because his talent is too potentially significant to bench him because he's acting like a 20-year old kid.  If Paxson sells him for $0.50 on the dollar then I'll be heartbroken.  I really think Paxson will attempt to move Tyrus before he'll try to move Ben.  

by messwiththebull on Feb 5, 2008 9:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yeah, that should've been more explicit
do not dump Tyrus for the expiring-platter. Somebody wrote into Sam asking for junk and Ian Mahimi. Sam seemed intrigued, blech.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 5, 2008 10:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Shawn Marion
There are rumors the Suns are talking about trading Marion and Banks for Shaq.  It seems very legit - and the Bulls should try to get in on this.  

Wallace has more health and life in his legs than Shaq and we could throw in a backup pg Duhon and a young big Tyrus.  That gives us a line up of

Hinrich/Banks
Selfolosha/Gordon
Deng/Noce
Marion/Smith
Noah/Gray

We would be smaller but we would be out from under Wallace's contract.  And we have a number of expiring deals (PJ, Khryapa) if the Suns want that.  If Marion opts out, oh well, at least we don't have to pay Wallace.  If he stays and excels, great, we now have an all-star.

by danger mouse on Feb 5, 2008 10:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

it's the rumor that keeps on giving
Why the Suns would want a Shaq with a bad hip to go with their run and gun offense, is the confusing part unless there's more going on.

The rumor is fueled by the Suns wanting something for Marion before Marion opts out.  But the Suns are luxury tax adverse too, which is why they kept trading those picks to Portland (someday soon they'll regret those moves).

by KT on Feb 5, 2008 10:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I can understand the optimism...
but whoever is reporting that isn't thinking before typing. That would have to be the dumbest trade in NBA history. Why would an up-tempo team trade their do everything guy Marion for a lumbering, over the hill, shot kneed, out of shape, commercial jockey?

Even if Marion is upset with the team, Kerr would have to be dumber than Jim Paxson to trade FOR Shaq's monstrosity of a contract for a team already treading lightly around money.

by CubFan81 on Feb 5, 2008 10:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The problem is
there just aren't many useful trades out there to be made aside from the missed Gasol trade.  The best I could think of was:

Noc, Smith and Khryapa to the Kings for Abdur-Rahim and Artest and then Gooden for Ben Gordon.

The Bulls then have a big guard with a good contract and the ability to score and Gooden and TT as a PF 1-2 punch.

Problem is, despite his harmony with Adelman and his lack of disharmony with Theus; Artest is still crazy as hell.

Other than that I see a lot of doubling at positions and big contracts for big contracts.

by Kemp on Feb 6, 2008 5:19 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Corey or Simmons
Out of those trade proposals, I like the idea of the Maggette trade simply because he is a man who can take the ball to the rim.  

The Simmons /Gadzuric trade is the next best trade.  I do like that that Simmons is younger, and I still see some life in Simmons.  

by Jesse07 on Feb 6, 2008 8:47 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Who's gonna get something up on KC's
Wallace/Gray frontline story?

Or is it not worth it....

"No, no. Stop talking to me. Someone might notice," Paxson squeaked.

by alec on Feb 6, 2008 8:55 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I lolled at that report
It's the Sonics Mr. Corpse.  You also play well with Gray against the Bobcats.  These are the two weakest frontlines in the NBA.

by NBA Observer on Feb 6, 2008 9:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You know why the bulls are still in the playoff
race?  They've played the fewest games.  So they haven't had the chance to lose them yet.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Feb 6, 2008 9:36 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

When the Bulls don't play
they gain on the other teams.  Too bad they play tonight.  If they didn't play we could be tied with NJ after the evening.  Unforunately we play Portland and will no doubt lose.  A win, however would be sweet.  

by chgobr on Feb 6, 2008 9:50 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's the spirit, big guy.
It is truly amazing that, try as they might, the Bulls can't drop through the bottom of this 'race.'

There really is some shiockingly aweful basketball being played arond the NBA these days.

"No, no. Stop talking to me. Someone might notice," Paxson squeaked.

by alec on Feb 6, 2008 9:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh god
The Suns took Shaq for Marion/Banks?  WTF Crapson!  You couldn't get them to take a better player in Ben Wallace?

Shaq's best friend is the Americans with Disabilities Act.  He can hardly move.  At least Ben Wallace is healthy and Crapson still can't shove him off on the desperate for bigs Suns?

by NBA Observer on Feb 6, 2008 9:54 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else want Ben Wallace
Clearly with the realignment of bigs there have to be teams desperate to acquire Ben Wallace.  Maybe the Shaq trade is good as it may spark more offers to show up on Crapson's desk.

by NBA Observer on Feb 6, 2008 9:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Found it first
Although, thank you ole URL sage.

by NBA Observer on Feb 6, 2008 10:12 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Matt?
I thought you said those reports weren't legit.  Oh well, better luck next time.

by danger mouse on Feb 6, 2008 10:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

got me
I said they didn't seem legit just based on the logic of making that deal. I have no sources.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 6, 2008 11:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i want maggette
on the bulls.  i just think it is something that has to be done.  the bulls have been missing a player like maggette since jordan left.  an athletic, big (he is built like a god damn truck) guard who has no problem getting to the hoop and drawing fouls.  where i disagree with you, matt, however, is moving thabo to get him.  i would love to see a backcourt of thabo and maggette.  is thabo the best ball handler in the world?  no, but is he improving and showing flashes of being able to competently run the point?  i know i have seen it.   trade hinrich and noc for maggette, picks and cash.  i like this line up:

for me, the dream lineup would be (depending on thomas's development)
thabo
maggette
deng
thomas
noah

by Conor on Feb 6, 2008 1:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

game over
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Feb 6, 2008 2:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That sucks.
Now we get Duhon.
Never went to church camp but I did go to Girl Scout camp. If you ever need help making a campfire I'm your girl. :P

by sue369 on Feb 6, 2008 2:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that's the real problem
Magic bench sauce keeps Gordon out of the lineup.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 6, 2008 2:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Gordon out of
the lineup doesn't bother me at all.
Never went to church camp but I did go to Girl Scout camp. If you ever need help making a campfire I'm your girl. :P

by sue369 on Feb 6, 2008 2:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't hate the player
hate the contract extension process.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Feb 6, 2008 3:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Too late.
I'm not a BG lover like so many in here.
Never went to church camp but I did go to Girl Scout camp. If you ever need help making a campfire I'm your girl. :P

by sue369 on Feb 6, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

bullshooter you lied to me
you said Duhon wouldn't start anymore and it was all the grand plan of Boylan to ease Thabo in.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 6, 2008 3:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Is Thabo starting?
Because if Duhon is your backup pg, it stands to reason he would start if the starting pg is unable to play.  Or maybe my logic is bad.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Feb 6, 2008 3:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

it is
my logic: Duhon sucks.

I'd honestly rather have Thabo handle the PG duties to start. If it goes awry, then make the move.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 6, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ok
then why did you want a one-legged duhon over a one-armed BG last week?  We both agree BG shooting with his left hand is a higher percentage shot than Duh, right?
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Feb 6, 2008 3:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought we hashed out that silly argument
I care if Gordon gets hurt more. I don't care if Duhon's legs fall off.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 6, 2008 3:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

but what you care about least
is whether the bulls win.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Feb 6, 2008 3:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ah, but I'm so nuanced
surely you can balance the cost/benefit of winning one game while keeping Gordon's wrist banged up going forward.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 6, 2008 4:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

with the scarcity of bulls wins
I think you are undervaluing them.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Feb 6, 2008 4:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

When Duhon/Thabo
has been a consistently terrible combination then maybe a little reason would suggest starting them together might just be a bad idea.

by Scotter on Feb 6, 2008 5:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

but how'd they do
in a 5-minute stint against Seattle??

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 6, 2008 6:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why everyother GM
can make moves like that?I mean ship out Shaq for Marion and Banks or get Gassol for nothing.
I doubt that Pax even tryed to talk to Kerr.
I would try to offer former Bull healthy BW and a filler for All-star player like Sean Marion.
15 days of hope left.
"YES,WE CAN!"-B.OBAMA.

by Azabullsfan on Feb 6, 2008 2:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Magic-Bulls Trade Idea
If you want to unload Joe Smith, we'll take 'im. We need his rebounding skills and respectable jump-shot to complement Dwight Howard and make a bit of a playoff push.

Carlos Arroyo and James Augustine is the offer I'd make. Arroyo is a solid NBA backup, his contract expires this summer, and he's worlds better than Chris Duhon. Augustine adds yet another raw forward/center type to inexplicably take minutes away from Noah and Thomas.

What do you Bulls fans think?

by Ben Q Rock on Feb 6, 2008 4:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Augustine adds Illini pride!
So sure, he can be a part of it.

Hmm...I think I'm game for this. The Bulls don't get a 'prospect', but would I really want Redick? I'd rather see if they could re-sign Arroyo cheap enough to where bringing Duhon back is definitely not an option.

Just a warning: Smith doesn't rebound that well, but he's a lot better than Lewis in that department.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 6, 2008 4:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Smith
Smith is 31st among 55 PFs in rebound rate; Lewis is 54th.

More importantly, Smith is 12th in offensive rebound rate; Lewis is 52nd. Since offensive rebounding is what we need most, he'd fit the bill.

If my proposed trade actually happened, the Magic would have only one player in their starting lineup shorter than 6'10".

by Ben Q Rock on Feb 6, 2008 4:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the anti-Bulls
we'd kill you with quickness though, until Ben Gordon falls down.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 6, 2008 4:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you know who can really o-rebound?
Ben Wallace. Trade for him. Great leader too :)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 6, 2008 5:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Big Ben
Not in a million years.

by Ben Q Rock on Feb 6, 2008 6:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You can gladly take Joe Smith
he's a mediocre rebounder, but so are the other guys the Magic play at PF and he would still space the floor for Dwight.

You might want to check Basketball on Paper again.  Rebounding is the third most important factor of the Four Factors.  But, turnovers and rebounding are pretty close in value.

by Scotter on Feb 6, 2008 5:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mybad...?
Page 96 of Basketball on Paper:
"[L]et me put forth again the four basic aspects of the game that a team must try to control:
  1. Shooting percentage from the field.
  2. Getting offensive rebounds.
  3. Committing turnovers.
  4. Going to the foul line a lot and making the shots."

The fact that the list is numbered, not bulleted, lead me to believe the order is significant. I thought the order in which the factors are presented was the order of their importance. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding.

by Ben Q Rock on Feb 6, 2008 6:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Kerr has already shown he's different than Paxson.
The O'Neal trade is definitely gutsy, but I think it's a good trade for a number of reasons:
  1.  That Suns team has probably gone as far as it can playing this style of basketball and putting that lineup out there.  Consider the recent competitor upgrades and something had to be done to the frontcourt.  Marion's departure may also be mitigated by a resurgence of Boris Diaw and Grant Hill stepping up.  Phoenix has to get something out of Diaw; they're paying him to produce.
  2.  Salary-wise, I think Phoenix doesn't do too badly.  Next year is a wash as Shaq gets $20m, Marion would have gotten $17m and Marcus Banks gets his $5m or whatever he's getting.  That second year, Phoenix is down net $15m since Marion would have been off the books but they now have a $20m expiring contract as a trading asset.  In fact, I think they have a number of expiring deals that year, led by Nash and Stoudemire.  I could be mistaken.
  3.  Shaq may be done, but he should be able to give Phoenix slightly better overall production than Kurt Thomas would have provided.  And one shouldn't underestimate how many easy buckets Nash will get Shaq.    

by messwiththebull on Feb 6, 2008 6:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

it's a nice dream
but the clippers would never do it

by fundamentallysound on Feb 6, 2008 8:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah ,I know
But Heat fans were dreaming also and they got it!
"YES,WE CAN!"-B.OBAMA.

by Azabullsfan on Feb 6, 2008 8:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We should be tied for 8th place
for 2 1/2 hours tonight.  Jersey is losing by 17 and looks awful.  Too bad we have to play tonight.

by chgobr on Feb 6, 2008 7:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Gimme some Earl Watson
for Joe Smith.  Memphis has publicly shopped Watson for an expiring contract.

And as badly as Earl Watson looked against Hinrich, he is a legit point guard (7th in assists/48) with a 3pt% higher than Duhon's FG%.  Besides, I want to see Tyrus play - and with an actual point guard - before we ship him off to the highest bidder.  This trade helps on both fronts.

by YaoPau on Feb 7, 2008 3:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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