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Open Game Thread # 58: Bulls vs. Washington Wizards

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[Thanks to wjb1492 for tonight's game preview. -Matt]

Yet another game originally slated for a national audience but now dropped in favor one between two good teams.  There's nothing quite like being barely relevant heading into March!

Tonight the Bulls, currently in 10th place and 2 1/2 games out of the final playoff spot in the East, have an opportunity to win back-to-back games for just the fourth time this season and the first time since late December.  I knew they had yet to string three wins together, but I hadn't quite realized (the bliss of intentional ignorance?) that the team hasn't had even a 2-game winning streak over the past two months.  The opponent - the reeling Washington Wizards, who have lost 10 of their 13 games this month, and more significantly just found out that Caron Butler is out for the foreseeable future, with a more serious hip injury than originally believed.  In comparison, the Bulls are 5 and 7 during February, so it's not like it's time to break out the champagne or anything.  I seriously don't have much to say about a playoff race where the team's greatest hope is that other teams suck just as bad or worse.

The big question tonight would seem to be who gets playing time, with Boylan saying he's going to take the "game-by-game", approach.  Of course, the associated question here on blogabull is which guard will perform well and which will experience the "hater" reaction for the next few days.  Nothing like a little contention among fans, right?  I'm sure Kirk, Ben and Larry haters are all waiting their chance to jump into the fray, while the corrensponding fans are hoping for a good game.  (Du-haters, fortunately (or is that unfortunately?), seem to have been permanently silenced of late by the string of DNPs.) [No Thabo haters out there? -Matt] It all should make for a warm-and-fuzzy end to this most charming of seasons, watching the who-to-keep-and-who-to-trade debate develop.  The "new toy on Christmas morning" shine on Larry and Drew hasn't worn off yet, so I can only imagine that the debate will grow even more intense if/when all those flaws Cav's fans complained about start to appear.

Accuscore predicts a Bulls win.  I predict that Boylan will make at least 4 line-up decisions that most people hate.  Oh, and I'll go with a win for the Bulls as well.  Hawks and Sixers play as well, so with a little help from New York (not likely) and Golden State (possibly), the Bulls could end the night tied for 9th and just a game and a half out of playoff contention.  And if that doesn't get you psyched for the game, then I don't know what will!  ;)

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Nets won last night
They defeated the Bucks who were creeping up from behind us in the standings, but we still need the Nets to lose after all their trades.

Just win baby!

The Kids Must Stay In The Picture!!!

by NBA Observer on Feb 29, 2008 3:58 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think the Nets are making the playoffs
I think the trade made the Nets better.  More depth, talent, 2 new starters.  There offense was already pretty much sit around and watch Carter and Jefferson score.  

The Wiz however, are hanging on by a thread.  They are 6th right now, but they are going to finish 9th or 10th.  The Bulls only have to be slightly better than awful to catch them.  

by danger mouse on Feb 29, 2008 4:08 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It will be
interesting to see how long this honeymoon phase lasts with the two newbies. Shouldn't take long.

A win at home would be nice. The game is on CSN tonight for those who get that station.

Kirk Hinrump is dead to me. :-)

by sue369 on Feb 29, 2008 4:23 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh
and Kirk keep your ass on the floor tonight and play a great game.

by sue369 on Feb 29, 2008 4:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Antonio Daniels scores 22....
Interest Level = Wins - Losses + 2*Tyrus Time + 1.5*(Thabo + Noah Time) - .4*Bricked layups + 3*Red Kerr Candies

by cubbybear on Feb 29, 2008 4:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

honeymoon phase
appeared to have ended last Monday in Dallas when they stunk and lost their second in a row....
Kirk's getting tossed didn't help matters either....
or maybe it did...
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 6:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gasol and the Lakers....
now THAT'S a honeymoon!
One of pure love - and likely to last into the finals.
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 6:23 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was specifically
talking about Hughes and Gooden's honeymoon pahse not the entire team.

by sue369 on Feb 29, 2008 6:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Isn't
it on ESPN as well?
Things can only get better! http:\playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Feb 29, 2008 6:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope.
They changed games. Sorry!

by sue369 on Feb 29, 2008 6:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thatt sucks
My cable provider does not carry CSN!
http:\playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Feb 29, 2008 6:59 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Accuscore also says Tyrus will have 2.3blks
I guess that means 2 and a big tip... :P
Drew Gooden beard meter - 6 (Old Amish Carpenter)

by cubbybear on Feb 29, 2008 5:00 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't wait to see Larry Hughes
call his own isolations, then jack up leaners all night! It really is neat to see Eastern Conference trademarked inefficient halfcourt guard play finally in Chicago.
Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Feb 29, 2008 5:04 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Washington
seems like a team that could fall out.  Remember what happened last year during their no Butler/ no Arenas stage.

If Washington bombs and we outplay the Hawks, its Bulls time.

by Kemp on Feb 29, 2008 5:05 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But ABC is keeping them
on Sunday?

Seem to recall Tyrus and Aaron Gray got rare opportunities to shine last time vs NBAs Ugliest Unis. Here's hoping lightning can strike twice.....          :=)

by marionette on Feb 29, 2008 5:06 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Any word yet on the starting lineup?
I am apprehensively awaiting the "Drew is gonna start instead of Tyrus" BS from Boylan, at which point I will turn my attention on a more focused basis to the I Hate Jim Boylan campaign that is getting such a groundswell of support on this site.  Don't do it you bastard!
GetYoSelfAHandful.blogspot.com

by MarketMaker on Feb 29, 2008 6:06 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know that Thabo is out
so Hughes will start in his place.

Hinrich
Hughes
Deng
Thomas
Noah

Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 6:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Hughes plays like he has
and kirk "brings his A game" this could be a devastating lineup.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 7:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So far he's
bringing his "A" game. Hope it continues.

by sue369 on Feb 29, 2008 8:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TVU Player
Does anyone know if i can watch the game online and where?Thanks in advance

Looks like Hughes is strting in place of Thabo

by koskinar on Feb 29, 2008 6:32 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For those outside the Illinois area
Link
"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 29, 2008 7:10 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I couldn't get anything.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 7:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You gotta click on it as soon as I post it up
They burn out after 1-2 minutes. I'll post another one when I get it
"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 29, 2008 7:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cool
interesting
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 7:28 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From justin TV
http://www.justin.tv/sh00ter

access code: myp2p

"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 29, 2008 7:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey
Hey thanks for the link!  Will this work for most of the bulls games?
And the starting line up for your world champion Chicago Bulls. . .

by AGBallinisaHabit on Feb 29, 2008 11:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Link
http://nba.edgeboss.net/wmedia-live/bkdjje!JdRMu0F*ldNyXHO6Oy4Hhk!ceqKxoLq7f!L37hRziNH8GuOOmvFNaiCZt VgaV3PbvaYYXwV1bFaWeSY7EA1Uch5E7W9F56s4zCEn0rv2OukiPCJs90etp7oZM?e=.asx

Not sure if it'll work

"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 29, 2008 7:31 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what was that
20 seconds with potentially the bulls best lineup?
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 7:14 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Noah rolled his right ankle first play
not looking so good. Already out on the bench
"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 29, 2008 7:14 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not good for Noah....
Hope it's not serious....
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 7:14 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

didn't look awful
was surprised to see him go to the locker room.  hope he's ok.

by Freethefro on Feb 29, 2008 7:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Larry instead of Thabo...
...but Tyrus instead of Gooden. I can deal.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 7:15 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Noah back on the bench
Doesn't look like he's hurting.
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 7:20 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why take TT out?
He even just made a Mid range J.

by eross226 on Feb 29, 2008 7:20 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

because Boylan
can't coach and has an ego

by goldengod on Feb 29, 2008 7:25 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Someone here said Gooden never passes out
from the paint....
they were right.
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 7:22 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's not impressing NBA observer
with his defensive box out and rebounding...
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 7:23 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Noah's pretty slender to guard Haywood
I think we're gonna be seeing a big, slow, pasty man out there....

by Freethefro on Feb 29, 2008 7:25 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

big, slow, pasty man
had a double double against this team last time out.

FWIW.

Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 7:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"I thought we traded
that passer in the paint"
-Johny "Red" Kerr
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 7:28 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Noah grimaces like he's hurting, but
you sure can't tell from his play.... Tough kid.

by BiNgO on Feb 29, 2008 7:29 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tough kid
That's why wall-ass voted to bench him...Noah is tough....he isn't.
He was probably even intimidated by Noah.
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 7:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry to bug
Anyone know of that one website to watch live games?

My friend lied to me and said she had NBA package and she doesnt so now im stuck like 2 hours away from home and im dying to watch this game

by Option27 on Feb 29, 2008 7:35 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't we wish....
It would be nice if all the teams would do what MLB did....

by BiNgO on Feb 29, 2008 7:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Look at my above posts w/ tyger
I should make a diary so more people know how to get access, since more people are asking.

Try the links I put up, tell me if they're working or not

"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 29, 2008 7:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I must have been a second too late.
Justin.tv had Toronto
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 7:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yah
I got the same thing!

Shit!

But I feel like there's hope

by Option27 on Feb 29, 2008 7:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aww C'mon Bullshooter
You know I would ruin nothing 4 ya.

We go way back

I hope this works...I'm dying to see if we can get finally get that back to back win

by Option27 on Feb 29, 2008 7:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

did you get it?
have to using IE for the media player i think.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 7:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm trying so hard
I can't find it...I just see NBA Audio

by Option27 on Feb 29, 2008 7:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's probably better if you get it first hand
without me wasting time and posting it up here.

Go here:

Myp2p

Goto the last page(freshest mms/boss links) for the Bulls/Wizards. You need WMP for this

"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 29, 2008 7:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whats WMP?
is that a dumb question?

by Option27 on Feb 29, 2008 7:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's all good, it's not usually abbreviated
Windows Media Player
"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 29, 2008 7:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe she lured you there
...for nefarious purposes.

by eGirl on Feb 29, 2008 7:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Someone did something sort of like that
to a guy friend of mine once, and then spent the entire game babbling some story about handwashing her sweater.  He was so pissed.  (understandably!)
Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Feb 29, 2008 7:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boylan gets Tyrus right back in
he's done well with the subs today

by Freethefro on Feb 29, 2008 7:45 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's been really good so far
2-2 FG/FGA, 2-2 from the line, 4 rebounds and 2 dimes

Did you see that bullet pass he caught from Thomas? I thought he would drop it

"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 29, 2008 7:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And then he manages to trip on himself
causing a turnover.
"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 29, 2008 7:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he had a rough start
but he's doing a lot better in the open court situations.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 7:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you'd think BG would have seen
that top of the key double-team at least once or twice in practice.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 7:54 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gray sucks.
Hey, Nittany, I finally got the link. Thanks so much!!! Where is the main page to start from? And what do I look for? This way I don't have to keep bothering you about it. :)
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 7:59 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No problem man
The main page is here, just scroll down and click on NBA + BASKETBALL. The rest is pretty simple

There's another page that doesn't get many hits, but has its advantages. It's called NBA MMS Links. I usually go there if the former is failing on me

"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 29, 2008 8:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks.
I haven't worried about since I've been so busy, but I have a few weeks of down time and would like to watch this new team. Thanks one more time.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 8:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like Gray
For this matchup, Gooden is much better on offense posting up against a Power Forward where he isnt mismatched size-wise and I'd rather have him posting up than driving by Haywood or shooting jumpers pulling him out a bit.

But more importantly than that, haywood was beasting us and Gray is now BEASTING him. Which is good, Gray is doing some GREAT things for us. Keep him in there and have Noah rotate in for him, with Tyrus rotating in for Deng and Gooden with Nocioni.

This is good stuff..... plus Hughes, Gordon, Kirk and Thabo doing very well in the backcourt... The bulls are playing very good right now, and i love them after this trade.

NICE!

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 29, 2008 7:59 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LoL
Thats true

But he's a rookie, he is huge, this is his first 82 game season after 30 game college years, and he hasnt played much minutes all year (especially not on a consistent basis).

BUT, although he is winded now he already made a huge impact and helped us alot. The big fella being winded should be somewhat expected.

How bout that screeen too by the way???

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 29, 2008 8:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

insert 2006 quote
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Mar 1, 2008 3:39 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he played well
I was just surprised by how winded he was.  he ran the floor twice I think and he was gassed.  Boylan should have brought him back in the second though.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Mar 1, 2008 9:51 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on - give him slack
he's a slow, tall pasty guy...    :-)
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 8:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One other thning
with Gray.

Haywood was getting our bigs into foul trouble, he was a mismatch for us and he was really kind of hurting us.

Gray has really neutralized that and its helping take advantage of our strengths in Gooden, Tyrus and Noah. Very nice, good job Gray.

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 29, 2008 8:01 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Apparently 40% shooting is good enough.
Jerks.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 8:02 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Im lovin me this lineup too by the way
Kirk-Hughes-Deng-Gooden-Noah

Lovely

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 29, 2008 8:02 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

every line up has looked good!
are the bulls really this much better than a week ago?

by eGirl on Feb 29, 2008 8:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This trade made us
a much more exciting team.  One thing that wasn't mentioned was how we upgraded our athleticism both in our guard corps and front line.  They're just fast, quicker, longer and more explosive than they were with Smith, BW, Duhon and Griffin.  Not great, of course - but much more exciting!

by Freethefro on Feb 29, 2008 8:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's cool everyone!
Thanks, I love you guys!

I just forced my friend to just order NBA Package!

by Option27 on Feb 29, 2008 8:03 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe the practice helped 'em
the guys look really decent tonight.
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 8:03 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd forgotten about how Red pronounces
Songaila.  For some reason it cracks me up.
Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Feb 29, 2008 8:03 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes sir
Im with Egirl, the Bulls lineups have looked great.

THEY REALLY ARE THAT MUCH BETTER FROM A WEEK AGO!

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 29, 2008 8:05 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Love how Hughes used common sense
and reset right there rather than take a hasty, ill-advised shot
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 8:06 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When a team loses a player as
valuable as Deshawn Stevenson, it's always safe to say it's over
"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 29, 2008 8:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

'course they are already missing
Gil and Caron.  They're gonna be dropping like a stone.

by eGirl on Feb 29, 2008 8:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And you accuse ME
of making stupid remarks?
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 8:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uh yes
Obviously sarcasm is beyond your personality, you freakin idiot
"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Mar 1, 2008 12:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The game
ESPN bumped us for, the battle between DWill and Paul, ain't much of a battle.

by jpchi on Feb 29, 2008 8:10 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ind and Atl are winning
hopefully Philly loses and starts coming back to earth.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 8:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know what that means, right?
Bulls beat Indiana...Pacers beat Toronto...

Ergo, Bulls are better than Toronto!  Pencil 'em in to the 5 seed.  (or is it 4?) ;)

(I have a friend that seriously uses that argument all the time!)

Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Feb 29, 2008 8:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOVING THE SMILES!!!!!!
Deng giving Gooden a high five, Gordon and Hinrich sharing a laugh, Noah with his arm up on Hughes talking.......

MAN OH MAN!!!!!

IM lOVING THE ATtITUDE FROM THE BENCH, LOOKInG LIKE HOW A WINNING TEAMS BENCH LOOKS. LIKE HOW THE CELTICS BENCH LOOKs, INTO THE GAME, ACTIVE, ROUTING ON THEIR TEAMMATES.

Very nice, our game is so much more versatile now. An option in the post, a good pick/roll option, a slasher, more inside play opening up for our great perimeter talent (and midrange talent: deng), getting to the foul line much more (HUGE), having no more size mismatches on defense.......

EVERYTHING!

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 29, 2008 8:14 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Never thought I'd say it
but Boylan's done an excellent job with these substitutions.  He's using Nocioni in moderation, and taking Noah out there was smart - don't want him to pick up the third foul.  Also LOVE how the injury to Thabo hasn't brough Duhon back into the fold, which I thought was coming.  Also like that he benched Kirk - shows that top effort is expected of everyone.

Maybe he's learning on the job.  We'll see.  

by Freethefro on Feb 29, 2008 8:14 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think the nets are better
Like the guy said, much better now after that trade (Especially if Krstic gets to 100% health and regains form he had before the injury as their primary scoring bigman at 17 ppg)

But yeah....... I think the Bulls and Hawks are also much better after their trades making a playoff run.

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 29, 2008 8:17 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Some half-time stats
Taking into account the vastly small sample size, here are the PERs for Hughes,Gooden,Wallace, and Smith before/after the trades:

        Before/After
Hughes  11.9  /22.2
Gooden  12.7  /16.3

Wallace 12.0  /12.8
Smith   22.9  /23.0

Even though all have increased their value, Hughes and Gooden have stepped it up quite a bit since coming to the Bulls.

"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 29, 2008 8:20 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whoops
Smith 17.2 / 18.8; PER before and after trade for him
"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 29, 2008 8:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What is up with
Thabo? Is he alright?

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 29, 2008 8:21 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they said he's got a
pulled groin.

thanks for lettin' me have that one :)

by eGirl on Feb 29, 2008 8:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think he's
out with a groin injury.

by sue369 on Feb 29, 2008 8:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good first half
for everyone. I really hope Noah will be ok. I'm glad he's playing through the pain since his dad is there to watch him. Very happy to see Kirk playing well. Keep it going guys!!!

by sue369 on Feb 29, 2008 8:23 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kirk playing well?
how may bricks, turnovers and getting burned on defense before you realize this chump is not good?

by GoldenThreePeat on Feb 29, 2008 8:58 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He played well
in the first half and no one played well in the second half. I guess we disagree on Kirk. It happens.

by sue369 on Feb 29, 2008 9:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They're really taking it to teams
since Wallace left. Max effort good to see, like old times.

by marionette on Feb 29, 2008 8:27 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Will a win tonight
get Boylan back to .500?

by eGirl on Feb 29, 2008 8:28 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who thinks Tyrus will be yanked at this TO?
Because, you know, he's the problem.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 8:31 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, color me perplexed.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 8:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, you're right
jsut missed it by a couple seconds

by eGirl on Feb 29, 2008 8:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or not.
It was Tyrus's fault Joakim gave those balls up.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 8:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what are they doing?
did they take shots at half time?

by Freethefro on Feb 29, 2008 8:36 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's almost like...
...they could use some "energy" and "athleticism" in the lineup.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 8:39 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man can things go south fast
What happened to the run-n-gun team from the first half?
Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Feb 29, 2008 8:40 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is it me
or have the officials been really uneven the last few games.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 8:40 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey coach...
please sub Gordon or thabo in for hinbrick!

by GoldenThreePeat on Feb 29, 2008 8:42 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gordon sucks
Am I the only one that sees this?

by gobulls1124 on Feb 29, 2008 8:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he doesn't suck
he's just flawed like everybody else on the team.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 8:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and by that I mean
my eyes are bleeding from watching it.  

by Freethefro on Feb 29, 2008 8:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is a joke
I don't think I've ever seen anything like what just happened

by eGirl on Feb 29, 2008 8:45 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Assinine remarks
"When a team loses a player as
valuable as Deshawn Stevenson, it's always safe to say it's over"  -- Nittanybull, tonight
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 8:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just a thought
for somebody who gets annoyed when everyone else calls out his "assinine" comments, you might want to hold off on calling out others sarcastic comments.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 8:58 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wasn't talking to you
maybe you should take the hint
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 9:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Not even God could sink her!"
--said of the Titanic on her maiden voyage

by eGirl on Feb 29, 2008 9:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Holy shit,
are you really this dense?

Not only are you an idiot, you suck at grammar as well.

I don't even know what assinine means. I know what asinine means, though.

"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Mar 1, 2008 12:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha this is actually comedy wrapped around
a bumbling retard. I'm laughing at the thought of you genuinely not understanding sarcasm.

I can't wait for you to say another dumb remark that warrants a new sig line, Warren.

"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Mar 1, 2008 12:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's one quick turnaround.
Just gotta play through it. Make shots and no TOs!

by marionette on Feb 29, 2008 8:46 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sub Hinrich for BG
I don't get that one, why not for Hughes?
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 8:51 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no real reason
but is he going to play Hughes the whole second half?
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 8:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea
I am so annoyed, Hughes is our great savior???? Hes a good player, gives us some more height and depth at the guard, but hinrich and gordon have been a very effective duo. Why couldnt he just play hinrich with gordon, seriously. I think it was a problem in the third having hinrich and hughes together, mind the word but, it killed floor SPACING. Uh....garbage
Kirk Hinrich. The Best White American Point Guard in the NBA.

by piccolomair on Feb 29, 2008 9:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

please get Tyrus back in
need to worry about him fouling out at this point

by GoldenThreePeat on Feb 29, 2008 8:55 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And the Bulls remain the Bulls
and blow a 20 pt lead in the 3rd to be down by 5.

Wow.

Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 8:57 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they gave up 1 more point in that quarter
than they did in the first half
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 8:59 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yikes
and now the return of the mighty du-du
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 9:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd like to take this opportunity
to nominate Boylan for the worst half-time speeches ever.

"Good job in the first half, team. There's something that I want to tell you... My dog just died of cancer. ...Now, uh, go out there and let's win this game."

"Duhon, don't make that garbage-time jumper... Save it for the next game!"

by bullhockey on Feb 29, 2008 8:58 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol
Du comes in a gets a tech.  The refs obviously read BaB.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 9:00 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man, Red's whine with each and every
turnover that quarter was tough to take. They're trying to make the right team play; on most of them, it's applauded if the interior pass goes through. Those just didn't make it, and a few were too easy for WASH.

by marionette on Feb 29, 2008 9:01 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boyyyy... Lannnn... SUUU-uuuuucckss...
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 9:01 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Duhon, Gordon, Hughes
"I'm seeing what works." "I'm teaching lessons." "A games weren't brought."
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 9:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

has Deng played the whole
second half so far?  Isn't he the guy with the gimpy tendon?
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 9:03 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have
...the last time the Bulls fell apart
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 9:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did he yank kirk
for trying to take a charge?
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 9:04 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

foul trouble
I think kirks at 5
Kirk Hinrich. The Best White American Point Guard in the NBA.

by piccolomair on Feb 29, 2008 9:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is there any particular reason why
Tyrus isn't playing.  Following along on gamecast and it doesn't seem to make sense.  

by danger mouse on Feb 29, 2008 9:04 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Boylan is trying to jerk
Tyrus and Hinrich around and teach them some sort of lesson.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 9:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Its all about
bringing your "A" game (conveniently only after Wallace left).  Too bad nobody knows what an "A" game is to Boylan.

by JeffD on Feb 29, 2008 9:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Best DUNK OF THE YEAR!!!!
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 9:05 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

couldn't watch the game...
who dunked AND maybe you have a clip?
And the starting line up for your world champion Chicago Bulls. . .

by AGBallinisaHabit on Feb 29, 2008 11:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nevermind
And the starting line up for your world champion Chicago Bulls. . .

by AGBallinisaHabit on Feb 29, 2008 11:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow
Noc with the Dunk of the Year.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 9:05 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Win or lose one thing remains
Boylan sucks horribly.
Kirk Hinrich. The Best White American Point Guard in the NBA.

by piccolomair on Feb 29, 2008 9:06 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That reminded me a little
of the old Tom Chambers dunk, the way he climbed the back a bit and rode the guy. Cool!

by marionette on Feb 29, 2008 9:08 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too bad Thomas was a complete bust.
Having the second pick of the draft live up to the hype would have helped. Thomas is the worst player in the league!!!!!!!!!!!
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 9:08 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nocioni's dunks energize the crowd.
THomas's dunks are just all flash. The way it pays to be a scrappy white guy in today's professional sports.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 9:09 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha
And yet it's true.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 9:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if TT had done that it would have gotten the
same effect, unfortunately he's not in to do it.  Try not to be full of shit all of the time.  Some of the time is ok, but not all of it.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 9:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know he would have energized the crowd.
I'm speaking about a large group of uneducated fans and apparently you're too dense to understand that. Any dunk like that energizes the crowd. Every time. But when people talk, retrospectively, about Thomas doing it, it's just "flash" and not substantial. But everyone says Nocioni is all grit and will remember that dunk forever.

Don't be an idiot and pretend there's no white/scrappy favoritism in American and professional sports. Get your head out of the ass. Seems like I've been saying this all year.

Here's a good rant.

http://www.inaleagueofherown.com/showComment.do?commentId=66444

Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 9:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

please
spare me your liberal equivalency bullshit.  Everybody roars when TT dunks and it gets played over and over again.  I've never heard anybody pooh-pooh a TT dunk, so if that's what you think, maybe you should question your own perception.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 9:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Noc loses a shoe to get the offensive board
how can you not love that guy.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 9:10 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did Noc just score for Washington
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 9:10 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This game has been fucking ridiculous...
..they better pull this one out, or it will be devastating.

by bullsfaninbigapple on Feb 29, 2008 9:15 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Course not
'cuz you also said "this game is over"
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 9:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I apologize
you actually said "this game MIGHT be over"  
:-)
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 9:23 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No I don't
you gonna tell me you said it because you knew the Bulls were gonna LOSE?
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 9:28 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Noah really needs strength
he gets pushed around so easily.

by Freethefro on Feb 29, 2008 9:16 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bulls should be well-rested
for a  finishing kick--after that 3rd quarter

by eGirl on Feb 29, 2008 9:18 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you underestimate
how much energy they wasted running back and forth to the bench.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 9:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was just wondering that
looks like I jumped the gun with my "maybe Boylan's rotations don't suck" post.

by Freethefro on Feb 29, 2008 9:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how the hell is tyrus out of the rotation
when we are constantly getting cut up in the lane on d

by lampnasty on Feb 29, 2008 9:20 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn, Noc! Dial it down
just a tad on the fast-break pass!

by marionette on Feb 29, 2008 9:21 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can't watch it
Did we play with four players in the 3rd quarter?
Drew Gooden beard meter - 6 (Old Amish Carpenter)

by cubbybear on Feb 29, 2008 9:21 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tyrus has gotten
9 minutes and Gray has gotten 8.

by Kemp on Feb 29, 2008 9:24 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good thing we brought Gooden in
for rebounding, no?

by Freethefro on Feb 29, 2008 9:24 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, he is a
Power Forward. Not a Center.

And Boylan has him out there as center with a lineup of 2 pg-sized guards, a 2guard, and a swingman around him.....

And this is going against a frontline of two 7 footers at all times and a 20/10 power forward (allstar) playing the Small forward.

So yeah, I'd say boylan screwed that up BAD. Same thing with even Noah being the only big in. Screwed up bad.

There is a reason we blew the game open when Gray was in with another big and there is a reason why we got killed with that small-ball BS against a monster-sized frontline.

Gray was +15 in 8 minutes. Seriously....... at least put Noah and Gooden in there, not just one of them with 3 guards plus Deng or Noc.

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 29, 2008 10:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fuck Boylan
I wish he would read this, so he would know I think he is the biggest fucking joke I have ever seen.  What a clown dick.  Just a real bitch.  No wonder he is a career assistant.  No business with any auhority.  I wouldn't let him coach a rec league team.  Worst coached game of the season.  Fuck him.  Worthless bitch.
GetYoSelfAHandful.blogspot.com

by MarketMaker on Feb 29, 2008 9:26 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No stops for Bulls
the last several possessions. It don't look good.

by marionette on Feb 29, 2008 9:28 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So frustrating
Boylan's small ball has lasted 40 minutes and counting now... Deng is not a power forward, and Tyrus, Noah, and Gordon are all capable of guarding Darius Songalia.  And screw Deng and Hughes this game.

by YaoPau on Feb 29, 2008 9:28 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah.
Deng is 9-14 for 18 points with 10 rebounds, 3 steals, and a block...gotta say that is no screw territory.

by Kemp on Feb 29, 2008 9:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thats
what happens when the two "scorers" on your team go a collective 7 for 25.  (Hughes and Gordon.)

by jpchi on Feb 29, 2008 9:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's easy to go -13
when you play 44 minutes, many of which are while you're playing the wrong position and your coach has a retarded lineup in.

i was relieved at how he looked - much better than the past few games.

by Jaina on Feb 29, 2008 9:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he'll look worse next game
you don't play 44 minutes coming back from that kind of injury.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 9:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i agree
boylan caused him to aggravate the injury last time (by immediately playing him 35+ minutes) and he's only back what, a week before it occurs?

i think i did make a reference to him overplaying him somewhere else around here...

but i was just defending his +- rating in this comment.  i very well know it was a bad idea to play him 44 minutes (getting a good portion at the 4), especially when we had a very able tyrus who only played 9 minutes!

by Jaina on Feb 29, 2008 10:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree with you, too
Boylan's rotations are f****d.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 10:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So we
lean on the new guys, supposedly to get the win, but can't handle a wiz team missing 3 starters.  Maybe we'll see a little more Tyrus next game.  I hope Pax gives Boylan a caning.

by eGirl on Feb 29, 2008 9:29 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really hope
that this isn't what Pax wants.  If its just that Boylan is an idiot, that is one thing, but if Pax agrees with what he's doing, its just sad.

by JeffD on Feb 29, 2008 9:32 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well first he should cane his ass.
Then he should can his ass.
"Duhon, don't make that garbage-time jumper... Save it for the next game!"

by bullhockey on Feb 29, 2008 11:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Noc with another play
and then a three.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 9:30 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice debut
Gooden fouls out
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 29, 2008 9:33 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"If you're Jim Boylan
you've got to be disappointed."  Sorry Stacey, if you're Jim Boylan, you deserve a kick in the nuts.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 9:34 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That game was firerable
for Boylan.

If we had nothing under Skiles, what was this?

by eGirl on Feb 29, 2008 9:35 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought the whole point of the trade
was to see what the young bigs have.  TT 8 min, 1-2 fg, 4 reb, 2 as, 2pts...  

We have 3 guys who can play the post.  We played one of them 8 minutes.  Gooden played terrible all game, but wasn't pulled, he got to foul out.  When TT got regular minutes after the trade, he was excellent.  I'm beyond furious.  

by danger mouse on Feb 29, 2008 9:35 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you gotta believe a game like this one
is gonna stick in Paxson's memory

by eGirl on Feb 29, 2008 9:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would like to Believe your words
This bad feeling in my gut, though, says otherwise.....damn you boylan...damn you!!!!!
Kirk Hinrich. The Best White American Point Guard in the NBA.

by piccolomair on Feb 29, 2008 9:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If making the playoffs means Boylan
gets to keep his job than I hope we lose every game from here on out.

by danger mouse on Feb 29, 2008 9:37 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This whole coaching staff needs to go..
What a bunch of hacks... They are just cheerleaders and appear as unprofessional as they are.

by BiNgO on Feb 29, 2008 9:38 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We have totally lost our defensive identity.
This looks like one of the most poorly coached teams in the league

by chgobr on Feb 29, 2008 9:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indeed
I dont know what were stressing anymore on this team. Ball movement has been limited, over dribbling has increased, defense is non existant, i guess boylan is preaching live by the jumpshot, die by the jumpshot. Well i got news for you Jimmy Boy!!! WERE FREAKIN DYING!!
Kirk Hinrich. The Best White American Point Guard in the NBA.

by piccolomair on Feb 29, 2008 9:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How the fuck does he pull TT and Noah?
After the way the 3rd quarter started, 2 minutes in, how can you decide TT and Noah are the ones that need to come out?  

Hughes playing the TO/foul the breakaway for the and 1 game, and everyone else turning the ball over, but the bigs need to come out?

Fuck you.  And your mother.

GetYoSelfAHandful.blogspot.com

by MarketMaker on Feb 29, 2008 9:40 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The more I watch Luol Deng....
...the more this love affair us Chicagoans have with him bothers me.  Deng is no more than a decent player and I fear this is as good as it "consistently" gets for him.  When the games really truly matter he is nowhere to be found.  I can name 15 small forwards in the NBA that I'd rather have than him.  I will LOSE MY MIND if we pay this guy 12 million dollars a year.  He is decent but he is and never will be a superstar.  In short, he is pretty much overrated.  The one thing there is in the game of basketball is an excess of 6'8" athletes who can learn to play the game.  I'd sign and trade Deng this offseason and make the best deal I could make.  In the meantime, I'd put Thabo at the "3" and draft another 6'7" or 6'8" athlete and plug him in.

by lexdiamonds0730 on Feb 29, 2008 9:40 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He is only 22
I am too, so be careful what you say about plateauing....
Drew Gooden beard meter - 6 (Old Amish Carpenter)

by cubbybear on Feb 29, 2008 9:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of all the things to go wrong
You attack the guy who was 9-14 from the floor with 11 rebounds, a couple of steals and who is just getting back from an injury?  I'm glad you aren't the Bulls GM.  Deng is the least of the Bulls problems.  

by danger mouse on Feb 29, 2008 9:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he disappeared
because boylan never gives him a rest.  he's already back to playing him an excessive amount (44 min tonight) while he's still recovering from an injury.

i thought he looked great.

by Jaina on Feb 29, 2008 9:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tragic turn of events
on that loose ball. Then BG missed his three and failed to foul the rebounder who was right in front of him. It's a small point, and probably wouldn't make a diff, but it struck me as dumb nonetheless, because it cost 7 secs they couldn't spare.

by marionette on Feb 29, 2008 9:41 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too much Larry Hughes and Gooden?
Seriously, i like the trade, i like the guys we got...but CMON!!!! Gooden was messing up alot, maybe he was having a bad day, maybe tyrus shouldve gotten some more burn, hell the energy couldve helped the team. And Hughes, WHERE THE HELL IS THAT SLASHING GAME YOU LIKE PLAYING!!! In the third when the game was going down the stinkhole it was hinrich for gordon, gordon for hinrich, yet hughes remained no matter what. Uh what a joke, so much potential just sitting on the bench, and boylan decides to go with his master plan. Damn!
Kirk Hinrich. The Best White American Point Guard in the NBA.

by piccolomair on Feb 29, 2008 9:41 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think
Alot of it had to do with him playing Center against a lineup of two 7footers while we had no big out there to help him.

Hence the foul trouble, and hence why the only great stretch he had in the game was when he was out there with Noah and then Gray.

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 29, 2008 10:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uh
What happened?

I blame it on Ben Wallace.  Wait.  Adrian Griffin.  Crap.  We're running out of scapegoats, it's the coach's fault.  35-14 in one quarter?

Drew Gooden beard meter - 6 (Old Amish Carpenter)

by cubbybear on Feb 29, 2008 9:42 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A complete joke!
"2nd half Ben Gordon bonanza. It's coming :)" - Matt, Blog-A-Bull

by Goostafer on Feb 29, 2008 9:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My first Jim Boylan post game.
Okay... Thomas wasn't doing great, but just to throw this out there: Thomas was in at the end of the Golden State game. Maybe Boylan's the one who didn't learn the lesson.

And HOLY SHIT, those reporters suck ass.

Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 29, 2008 9:46 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I couldn't agree more
Boylan didn't learn a thing.  

No energy?  No effort?  Put in your high energy guy.  He pulled him.

And WTF with the reporters?  I would have been grilling him.  How can you not?  Let him off the hook?  Come on you pussies!!

GetYoSelfAHandful.blogspot.com

by MarketMaker on Feb 29, 2008 9:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boylan-- OWN UP!!
In his whole press conference, he did not once admit any fault in what happened tonight!!  

Are you kidding, ragging on the players, but you aren't part of the problem?  

What do you think a coach is supposed to do?  

What a douchebag!

It's like having a retard trying to park your Maserati, then blaming the car crash on it being a stick shift!

GetYoSelfAHandful.blogspot.com

by MarketMaker on Feb 29, 2008 9:49 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Those of who think too much Hughes and Gooden....
... are completely delusional.  Look around the league.  Everybody has athletes that play basketball except us.  Hughes and Gooden are quite possibly now the two or the three best athletes and basketball players on our team (the exception being Tyrus Thomas in the athleticism department and arguably Gordon or Deng in the basketball player department...I would argue Gordon).  We need a real point guard.  We also need more horses so that we can have guys finishing at the rim, not pulling up for jump shots on the break.  Nothing bothers me more than having to watch Deng shoot that pull up jumper and then turning to Atlanta game and watching Josh Smith finish with such aggression.  I would be willing to bet that Deng is LAST in the league for starting small forwards in Free Throw Attemps/Game.  At that position, we need this guy to give us more.  I know he had 18 and 11 tonight but it was the quietest, most useless 18 and 11 EVER.  Where was he down the stretch when we needed big plays?  Hell, where is he most of the time when we need big plays?  Why do you think Gordon is always left to take the last shot and dribbles around like a chicken with his head cut off?  Deng is not even an option down the stretch and you don't pay 12 million to a guy like that.  He simply is not tough enough and he is a reflection of our team!!!  We simply are not tough enough!!!

by lexdiamonds0730 on Feb 29, 2008 9:52 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shots in the paint tonight
Deng: 6/7
Hughes: 3/7
Gordon: 0/0

Shots from outside:
Deng: 3/7
Hughes: 2/9
Gordon: 2/9

Who's finishing more inside?  Who is coming off a leg injury that would presumably take away explosiveness?

by jpchi on Feb 29, 2008 10:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

'one thing I completely agree with
and is for certain.

WE ARE DEFINITELY NOT TOuGH ENOUGH.

Pansies.

Deng could help TREMENDOUSLY with that problem if he would step up as our leader Brandon Roy style, like many of us thought he would after he was the best player on our young 50 win team last season.

wHAT THE HELl HAPPENED TO MY BULLS?!??

STEP UP AND BE A LEADER LUOL!!! And if Deng doesnt, someone else has to......... also, Gooden wouldve had about 7 or 8 easy baskets inside if any of our guards knew how to feed a big man for an open layup off of pick/roll or just in general.

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 29, 2008 10:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's not the toughness,
it's the small ball.

As for the leadership, maybe it's overrated, unless you're challenging at the level of a Dallas. BG, Kirk, Deng and Noc have all shown they can come up big on court. But Noah, Thabo and Tyrus have all shown more to me in terms of potential leadership-type personality. Rarely are any one of them on the court at the end.

by marionette on Feb 29, 2008 11:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this start of the second half thing
is really annoying.  I think guys are looking over their shoulders now in a bad way.  If you're going to bench Kirk fine, but don't bring him back and pull out BG after four minutes because now you are messing with BG's head, too (even more than he already did by making him the sixth man...)  Hughes and Deng had just as many TO's in the third as anybody else, why not pull them too.  And Deng played 44 minutes for some reason.  He didn't play badly, but was he dominating in any way that would force Boylan to keep him out there that long?  And TT for 8 minutes?  WTF is Boylan really thinking?
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 29, 2008 9:53 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WTF is Boylan really thinking?
The million dollar question.

I wish someone would ask him one of these days.  I'm dying to know the answer.

"Jim, just WTF was it that you were thinking there in the second half.  You went with a shitty three guard line-up featuring Duhon at one point.   Shouldn't you be over that by now?"

"Jim, your team played a great first half, yet you chose to finish the half with a line-up featuring Nocioni at center.  WTF is it exactly that you were thinking?"

Is this guy worse than Tim Floyd?   I am really starting to wonder.   While the Floyd era depressed me as a fan to no end, I never was enraged by him.   Boylan's horrible rotations and game management actually anger me.  

Fuck this guy, and if he's still around next year, then fuck me if I keep following this team.

by mruntouchable on Feb 29, 2008 10:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm in the same boat
i think i really won't be able to watch the bulls if this dude is on the bench again next year.

by Jaina on Feb 29, 2008 10:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MOST DISSAPOINTING LOSS I HAVE EVER SEEN
BY FAR. PERIOD.

Boylan couldnt figure out to put two bigs in the game at the same time when we're going up against a frontline of 2 7footers and a 20/10 allstar power forward???!??????????!!!!!???

Wow. Just wow.

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 29, 2008 10:07 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think
he just plays eenie meenie minee moe...and then he even fucks that up because there's no consistency.  I'd LOVE for someone to ask him his logic behind his lineups.
And the starting line up for your world champion Chicago Bulls. . .

by AGBallinisaHabit on Feb 29, 2008 11:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He answered that...
He's just throwing stuff agains the wall to see what sticks.

Note to Boylan - tonight's third quarter lineup didn't stick!

Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Feb 29, 2008 11:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just terrible Boylan
RIDICULOUS.

Gooden is Power Forward. Not a Center.

And Boylan has him out there as center with a lineup of 2 pg-sized guards, a 2guard, and a swingman around him.....

And this is going against a frontline of two 7 footers at all times and a 20/10 power forward (allstar) playing the Small forward.

So yeah, I'd say boylan screwed that up BAD. Same thing with even Noah being the only big in. Screwed up bad.

There is a reason we blew the game open when Gray was in with another big and there is a reason why we got killed with that small-ball BS against a monster-sized frontline.

Gray was +15 in 8 minutes. Seriously....... at least put Noah and Gooden in there, not just one of them with 3 guards plus Deng or Noc.

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 29, 2008 10:18 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How can you not fire Boylan
after this debacle.  This is just a whole new level of complete suckage.  Dare I say, Boylan makes Isiah Thomas look like mother fucking Phil Jackson.
The Kids Must Stay In The Picture!!!

by NBA Observer on Feb 29, 2008 10:20 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BRING BACK SKILES
Anybody with me???
Anyone????
CMon....
...awww....
Kirk Hinrich. The Best White American Point Guard in the NBA.