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Open Game Thread #57: Bulls at Indiana Pacers

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[Thanks to chgobr for today's game preview. -Matt]

Tonight is another opportunity to digest the trade and the solve the Bulls puzzle. Can we find a combination that dazzled us against Denver? Can we better understand what is missing? Are all the pieces already here and nothing is missing? There is a great deal to like about this group of players. Our challenge is meshing, chemistry, synergy, finding a way for the sum to be greater than its parts and avoid redundancy (like I just did).

Tonight's game is between two struggling teams. The Bulls have lost 5 of 7 and the Pacers 12 of 15. Kirk Hinrich's 38 points led the Bulls to a 108-95 home victory Jan. 23. Kirk is salivating as he looks forward to facing Travis Diener again. Indiana, 22-35, a tad worse then our 22-34, have pieces (O'Neal, Murphy, Dunleavy, Tinsley, Foster, Marquis Daniels, Granger and Kareem Rush) and like us, are trying to solve the puzzle. Speculation about O'Neal and Tinsley's knees and their return abound. If you could guarantee O'Neal's health he would be in the mix for Bulls savior. O'Neal's knees and $19.7, $21.3, and $23 through 2009-10 make him almost impossible to move. Against Toronto Monday the Pacers came from 10 down and Kareem Rush almost tied it with a three. Expect the Pacers to play with energy as they did against Toronto.

" We really competed our hearts out in the second half," Pacers coach Jim O'Brien said. "We played a good basketball team, never gave up ....."

Bulls - Pacers: opportunity to examine pieces and solve our puzzle.

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Kirk better be going for 46 tonight...
Minutes that is, as opposed to the 6 or so minutes he played at dallas. Skills aside, he really has to not talk to referees. They dont like him, they dont give him calls, and they dont give him respect. So he should stop trying to play to the refs, and i say this as a fan of his. Hopefully he shows some of  20 and 10 game that i believe he can have, and shows that top 10 guard stuff everyone sort'of kind'of thinks he has.
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Feb 27, 2008 5:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I am glad he came out strong
because if he looked like he went out drinking with his KU buds last night, I was ready to dumptruck the guy.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 27, 2008 6:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope
Kirk has another game like the last time they played the Pacers and I hope he keeps his mouth shut and just plays ball.

Break this losing streak guys.

Kirk Hinrump is dead to me. :-)

by sue369 on Feb 27, 2008 5:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm stuck with tape delay tonight
But I'll be wishing I were watching live the whole time.  Time to start a winning streak!
Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Feb 27, 2008 6:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Don't know which is worse
I officially went HD yesterday and was drooling over the beauty of the Lakers game on my big 65" and excitedly anticipating tonight's game on ConCast HD -

But, NOOOOooooo...
I gotta watch it via Indiana's feed which is not HD, and the comms sucketh....

Sigh....

Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 6:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is a time where
The new guys should be able to dominate in whatever minutes they play.

by BiNgO on Feb 27, 2008 6:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Tyrus
That jump shot actually looks deadly now.

People will soon respect it and then he really shines

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 6:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Tyrus totally solid all around tonight
Great rebounding, great shooting, sweet pass to Deng cutting to basket.

by BiNgO on Feb 27, 2008 6:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Love the opposing (IND)
announcing crew: "Let him shoot that."  And swish goes the TT 20 footer.  Or: "He can't really handle", right before setting the table on Deng's dunk.

Last night's POR game the Laker guy sez: " How much do the fans in Chicago regret the trade of LaMarcus now?" Answer: Not at all, dipstick!

by marionette on Feb 27, 2008 6:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The only thing I regret
Is not having a guy like Nate as our coach, who actually trusts his youngs

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 7:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

when is the last time
that there was a team that started 4 American white guys?

by JSlakov on Feb 27, 2008 6:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The marionette
wet dream starting lineup: My heart is about bursting just to see this! Pretty good performance so far, other than the weak perimeter defense (what else is new?).

by marionette on Feb 27, 2008 6:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm worried about Deng
He  just don't look right out there

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 6:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

slam-a-roo!
its been a few since i've seen a lob for a slam!
we like the stuffing of the basket. plz do it again fellas.

by akuma77 on Feb 27, 2008 6:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

WHy take Tyrus out?!
The guy is off to his best start ever perhaps!

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 6:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

don't fret...
they all still meshing. the mins will wrk out for everyone by nxt week.

by akuma77 on Feb 27, 2008 6:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A reason to fret
What does it say to Tyrus when he's put up one of his best 5 minute stretches of his career only to be the first one yanked out?

That's why it's bullshit.

Gooden can have some minutes. I ain't mad at that.  

Boylan can suck it

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 6:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

my thoughts exactly
Pulling TT when he's hot makes no sense
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 6:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If bullshooter were here, he'd explain it.
He has insight to the direction of Thomas's sporadic minutes.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 27, 2008 7:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

he's playing 5 and 5
no mystery there, and TT was the first guy back out, but I wouldn't have subbed him in the first place, either.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 27, 2008 7:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ok let's all take notice
Around the 4:15 mark in the 1st, Boylan takes Tyrus out of the game.

He had 4 points, 5 boards and a nice assist to Deng.

Looks more active than anyone on the court!

HE ALSO ONLY HAS ONE FOUL.

I ask why?

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 6:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

well, he's +1 right now and 2-2 FT's
But Noah is back now coach.
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 6:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought we were making progress here.
But a relapse goes way far back and we're to half-quarter plus-minus. Ouch!
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 27, 2008 7:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I only brought up the +/- stat for your sake
but you knew that
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wow
I;ve seen enough of Gray.  Noah?  

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 6:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

WTF is with the officiating again
Is this rampant all over the NBA... These guys are too old to keep up with the pace of the game.

by BiNgO on Feb 27, 2008 6:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm only puzzled by Aaron Gray
hatred. But I don't have to listen to Red most times, maybe that has something to do with it?

by marionette on Feb 27, 2008 7:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously?
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 27, 2008 7:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Boylan is the main reason this game is close
Tyrus being yanked out early was his first mistake.  

Taking the whole line up out with about 3 minutes left in the 1st was his second mistake.

Keeping Gray in for so long is his 3rd mistake

Noah just watching from the bench still is his 4th mistake (Noah could have a big game against a team like Indiana)

And yanking Tyrus out again with about 10 to go in the second was his 5th mistake (all due to that infamous 2nd foul in the first half).

Boylan makes me sick

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 6:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Boylan makes me sick
Can't imagine one BaB-er who doesn't second that
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 6:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup
he doesn't let anybody get into a rhythm.  

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 6:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's hog tie him...
and make him disappear...ok, it didn't really work, but too bad he couldn't follow his players to Cleveland.  
And the starting line up for your world champion Chicago Bulls. . .

by AGBallinisaHabit on Feb 27, 2008 7:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

THAT IS NOT A WALK
his footwork was fine.

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 6:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

They just need to hang in there
this quarter, with 5+ team fouls. I'll take a tie at half time.

by marionette on Feb 27, 2008 6:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I hate how this game is going
Bulls should be blowing these guys out. They are going into far too many scoring droughts.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 6:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

what the hell?
Philly's up 53-30 on the Magic in the 2nd?

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 7:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thabo
is currently sporting the impressive Eddy-Curry-like assist to turnover ratio of 1:3.  Meanwhile, Tyrus sits cause of two fouls.

by jpchi on Feb 27, 2008 7:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Is Tyrus
Punished for the rest of the half for getting 2 fouls?!

Hey Jim, usually your best player on the court is in foul trouble if he has 3 fouls before the half!

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 7:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Anyone with a pirate feed???
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 27, 2008 7:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

LLoL
Clever.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 27, 2008 7:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I strongly dislike this toolbag
Boylan.  Noah was JUST starting to play well - good D, rebound, junk basket.  So time to sub.  

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 7:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else thinks
Hughes over dribbles? I mean, i get he may be trying to slash or whatever, but still, it looks wierd, i have this fear that hes looking more at his shots rather than whats the best decision on the floor. Or at least thats what i see...
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Feb 27, 2008 7:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Over dribble? One of our guards?
He fits right in with Gordon and Hinrich then.  The Bulls over dribble as a signature offensive move.  

by cranscape on Feb 27, 2008 9:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i enjoy watching this team so much
better than before  the trade.  They have so much more energy, their passing is better all of which over-rides the miss-takes they make

by chgobr on Feb 27, 2008 7:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

ticky tack fouls
every time.  Neither of those "blocks" needed to be called.  

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 7:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The Bulls
Pump fake more than any team I may have ever seen

I think coaches have them do 75-100 pump fakes before bed every night

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 7:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Heh
Like samurais practicing thier kendo swings?
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Feb 27, 2008 7:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Was my gamecast right,
was the rare 4 guard lineup?

by JeffD on Feb 27, 2008 7:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Gooden
Is getting schooled.

But yet it take him "3" fouls to get back to the bench

::nods head in disbelief::

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 7:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

can we slap a ref plz!
just once i'd like to see the ref make another bone-headed call and the playaz response is a slap in the face!!!!

by akuma77 on Feb 27, 2008 7:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

you like it
I'm just goofin here Matt Damen. i don't believe in violence unless its Bourne choking out an assassin!

by akuma77 on Feb 27, 2008 7:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Matt "Damen"
how'd you know my Wicker Park rep?

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You know, I'm a huge Bulls fan,
and I'll probably like this team no matter who they trot out there.  But that half, they played flat and stupid.  

Nevertheless, go Bulls.

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 7:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

that was a bad half.
And yet again (as I mentioned above), Boylan confuses 'go small' with 'go short', where he sits Noah and puts Gooden at center, even though Noah is far better suited to chase around an opposing smaller lineup.

That and the Tyrus yank was bogus. (10 minutes this half??)

But overall nobody's really playing well so hard to completely call out Boylan the boob.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 7:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just waiting
for the world famous Duhon/PeeOn/Brown/Nichols/Simmons line-up

by paxson43 on Feb 27, 2008 7:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I couldn't disagree more.
They weren't going to pull away after putting (refs putting?) IND in the bonus w/ 8:00 left. When Travis Diener can parade to the line, it's easy to score points.

PHX vs NO locally here, but I'll be watching this one, so I'll measure my "huge fan" next to anyone's. I saw as much (or more) brilliance and liveliness as flatness and stupidity.

It's easier if you simply watch the game. Put little credence in the negatives here.

by marionette on Feb 27, 2008 7:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

tyger1147
Try channelsurfing.net for the feed

by California Al on Feb 27, 2008 7:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Boylan's halftime speech
"Tyrus, you gotta stay outta foul trouble. I don't care how good you look out there! Aaron, keeping being a big body out there and taking up space and time. Drew, we're counting on you to show Joakim and Tyrus how to bring it every night and Ben . . . just keep soing whatever you wanna do out there"

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 7:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Who cares if he fouls out a game!
Why are the Bulls so afraid of him fouling out? They rarely play him in the closing minutes anyways. They've been over-coddling of Tyrus since game one of the season.

by RogersPark Kris on Feb 27, 2008 7:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Trivia
Boston just signed which ex bull player for the remaineder of the season?
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Feb 27, 2008 7:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Marcuz Fizer???
ehh no u got it right, its good ol PJ (the peej) Brown. Whoo hoo, more old ankles should definetly get them through thier push to the finals....
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Feb 27, 2008 7:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Marcus Fizer?
I'm watching Cle/Bos and no Ben Wallace in this stretch :(. Although the cavs are down double digits so I assume he's already done some damage.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 7:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oh jeez
2 fouls in a minute and he's back on the bench. no fun.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 7:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why do the Bulls
get so many fouls called on them? I know they do make some of them but this is ridiculous. And the ref at the far end of the court makes the out of bounds call at the other end of the court? I hope they come out and keep their hands to themselves so there is no doubt they didn't foul.
Kirk Hinrump is dead to me. :-)

by sue369 on Feb 27, 2008 7:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand it myself
they seem to get such ticky-tack calls.  Nocioni, especially, has gotten to the point where any call that's even FAINTLY ambiguous goes against him.  He's getting jobbed fairly frequently now, and though I'm not a big Noc guy, it's clear that he's getting poor treatment due to his prior and egregious floppery.  I'm not sure if this is true, but I have the feeling that we're viewed by refs as a pretty "whiny" team.  What do you all think?

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 7:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

viewed by refs as a pretty "whiny" team
Nail on the head.
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 7:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Does that make the Pistons
a "very" whiny team then?  

I don't see us as terribly whiny.  We just have twice as many things to be upset about than most teams who don't get handled by the refs as we do.  What I don't get is why are the Pacers so great that they get handled with kiddy gloves by the refs?  I'd expect the Bulls to get short handed on fouls against a good team, but the Pacers?  

by cranscape on Feb 27, 2008 9:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I very rarely see Kirk, Noc, Noah
speak cogently and respectfully to a ref.  It's always hands up in the air, demonstrative yells, strutting away.  Other teams, I see veterans stop and have actual discussions with refs - as in, how did you see it, this is what my guy's doing that's illegal so watch for it - and I think that's just a much more effective way of communicating.  We don't get calls, you're right - Thabo gets some serious crap thrown his way! - but I have a feeling we've brought some of it on ourselves.  

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 9:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Got to love our color commentator
"Come on! Corner, corner, swing, 3."

by RogersPark Kris on Feb 27, 2008 7:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What the hell is with Deng?
he's playing so stupidly.  dumb fouls.  again and again.

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 7:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

boylan
in unable to make any in game adjustments.  4 min into the start of each half and gooden comes in.  It doesn't matter how the game is progressing.
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Feb 27, 2008 7:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

wow
the officiating is horrible
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Feb 27, 2008 7:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Leon Wood is one of the NBA's worst,
but the guy who was an FBI informant is in there, and he's one of the best. I don't know who is the 3rd.

None of these is a bad as Violet.

by marionette on Feb 27, 2008 8:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Now they do look flat.
Grab a loose ball, f'chrissakes! Thank God for Noah, at least.

by marionette on Feb 27, 2008 7:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

HOLY SHIT
these fouls are driving me nuts

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 7:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Deng's jumper just flat SUCKS tonight
yikes
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 7:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Sadly
It's not just tonight.

He hasn't looked right since the injury

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 7:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yup

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 7:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ageed.
He's still not right.
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 7:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Diener has 16 points
This guy should be the starting point guard for the Columbus Riverdragons.

by RogersPark Kris on Feb 27, 2008 7:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

And
8 assists.

by jpchi on Feb 27, 2008 7:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hinrich could take him
But surprise hes on the bench, and wheres gordon? This should be a club rule, but either hinrich or gordon should be on the floor AT ALL TIMES. The only exceptions are injury and garbage time...right now neither case works so get one of the two on the floor NOW!
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Feb 27, 2008 7:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
Indiana announcers just called Thabo "octopus-like".

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 7:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

In ref to
his hair or his traveling?

by cranscape on Feb 27, 2008 9:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

TT
who is leading our team in D rebounds today has been on the bench for more than half the game.  Indiana has 11 O rebounds so far.  Will Boylan see a connection?

by jpchi on Feb 27, 2008 7:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

At least Larry Hughes
is having his Bulls breakout game

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 7:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

no kick?

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 7:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Deng's numbers
are a lot better than his game looks.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 27, 2008 7:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Did kirk do something to get benched?
I turned my head at the start of the half and he was gone.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 27, 2008 7:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

WTF is going on withTT's PT?
Can someone who is watching/listening to the game tell me why at the end of the third TT has logged only 13 minutes?  

by paxson43 on Feb 27, 2008 8:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Boylan
Seems to be falling in love with Gooden if you ask me.

Looks for any excuse to take Tyrus out.

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 8:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously
The guy has to be thinking enough is enough eventually

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 8:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Boylan wrote on his palm pregame
"remember, pull Tyrus 4 minutes into the first and third quarter. You can do this!"

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting stat
Backcourt tonight:
77 minutes, 44 points, 0 rebounds

by JeffD on Feb 27, 2008 7:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

A Tyrus sighting!
Could he actually play a lot of the 4th?!

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 7:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

man, this is an awful game to watch
just lingering around with a lesser opponent. argh.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 7:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

lingering around with a lesser opponent
That is it in a nutshell.
Even tied it again to end the 3rd....
Nobody seems to want to take it up a notch and run away with it.
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice put back by Tyrus
Love it when he gets up like that
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

anyone see noc wave tyrus towards the basket?
for the putback!
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Feb 27, 2008 8:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ok, not to rub it in
But Tyrus and Noah are out there for the first 2 minutes of the 4th and the Bulls are suddenly up by 7.

If the Pacers cut it to 4, Boylan might think a sub for Thomas is due

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 8:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I hear you
It seems so obvious that the best thing this team has going is two good young bigs, but we just don't want to develop them, when developing them is also the lineup that gives us the best chance to win. It's nuts.

by BoxingHideout on Feb 27, 2008 8:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

nice
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Feb 27, 2008 8:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

OMG!!!!!
4 fouls in the 4th is normal!!!!!

I HATE YOU BOYLAN!

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 8:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I fucking hate this team.
I think it's safe to say that they are getting close to the "hurting the youth" area. Taking out Tyrus when he's kicking ass? Fuck that fucking ass bull shit. Paxson needs to take his head out of his before he shoots himself in the foot (how bout them cliches?). I'm done with this team until Thomas and Noah are getting 30 mpg. And that won't happen the rest of this year. See ya guys at the draft!
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 27, 2008 8:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

close to the "hurting the youth" area
I kinda thought that happened back when Skiles was still running things...
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

BW fan
Doesn't stand for Ben Wallace
"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 27, 2008 8:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ugh, that was an awful shot attempt
by Gordon. They already got Indy in the penalty with 9 minutes to go, freaking use it.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You get the feeling
That if Tyrus shot that, he would probably sit the rest of the game and get a DNP for the next game

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 8:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention
having to apologize to Nocioni for taking some of his minutes.

by RogersPark Kris on Feb 27, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

sub
It's time to put hinrich back in for gordon.  

by kig on Feb 27, 2008 8:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

heard that
Kirk musta used the F word to Boylan
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hughes wanted out and wanted Kirk in
Something wierd is going on with that bench there, cuz boylan vetoed that and put thabo in......what in tarnation is going on?
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Feb 27, 2008 8:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

gee I wonder why we often get hosed by refs
they have to take special time-outs to calm down Noc, then have to deal with Hinrich chirpin from the bench. ugh.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

there are 2 guys who can play point on this team
of course Boylan has them on the bench doing the final 8 minutes of the 4th.

by danger mouse on Feb 27, 2008 8:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

doing should be during
Boylan subs have me so confused!

by danger mouse on Feb 27, 2008 8:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why was Hinrich yelling at Bob Delaney?
That's the same guy that went undercover with the mob.  Does Hinrich really think he can intimidate the guy?

by Big D on Feb 27, 2008 8:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

get gordon out
can he not ever take a good shot?  

by kig on Feb 27, 2008 8:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Gordon is handling the ball
WAY too much
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Gordon is handling the ball
because Boylan has Hughes and hinrich out.  Why? Why on earth?

by danger mouse on Feb 27, 2008 8:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Say bye bye to Tyrus
he ain't seeing no more time today

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 8:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Great - now Deng replaces Tyrus?
And BG still in?

Oh brother....

Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Boylan pulls Tyrus
saving Noah and Tyrus with 4 fouls apiece. Someone let him know they don't carry over to the next game...

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I was just gonna say that!
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"Proof" Boylan is dumb.
You pull guys with fouls because they're your best players and you want to save them. Boylan, however, clearly does not think that about Thomas and Noah. So why save them?

Of course, his logic might be, "Well, if they're fouling, then they obviously aren't playing that well." Because, of course, that's the best indicator of playing prowess.

Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 27, 2008 8:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

well Boylan thinks
Gooden is his best option. Because he's stupid.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No, because
He is his best option.

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 27, 2008 11:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

gordon
looks like the young kid at a pickup game that you have to remind to pass the ball because all he does is dribble around and throw up a crap shot

by kig on Feb 27, 2008 8:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Luckily,
MR. Hughes is bailing the Bulls out.

by RogersPark Kris on Feb 27, 2008 8:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta admit
Hughes looks great tonight even in chuck mode

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 8:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

don't get sucked in
because he will, and keep shooting even when they don't go in.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually think Deng's playing alright
his jumper just isn't back yet. Granted, when you take the  best thing a guy does away from him...

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You mean
OTHER than his stupid fouls, right?
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What are you talking about?
His whopping 1.7 F/game he has, or the tremendous 2 F/game he had averaging last year?
"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 27, 2008 8:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm talking about tonight
didn't you get the memo?
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You're averaging 5 stupid comments per day
sit out a couple plays
"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 27, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

it is truly amazing
how the little people always try to make themselves feel better by insulting others.
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Heh, yeah
Considering I've been here a wee bit longer than you, I am little in comparison to your great 20+ comment night tonight, whew. How do you do it with already knowing that you annoy others?
"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 27, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And you're a peach
yup.
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

despite your obviously distorted view of yourself
you are a classic for annoyance.

But you don't see me insulting you.

So take the stick outta your ass, will ya?

Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Whew, 2 replies
Did I hit a soft spot? Feel bitter? Aw :(

I may be a classic for annoyance, but at least I try to keep my comments down to a minimum. I'm pretty sure you take 1/4 of tonights' replies.

Alright, here's the thing. I enjoy reading the comments of the quality posters around here(hscs, bullshooter, sbulls, '58, sue, KT and wjb to name a few) but you haven't come up with any real opinions, or made any contributions since you've been here.

A little quality advice headed towards you right now: shut up for a little bit, get the feel of the blog, and start posting again.

"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 27, 2008 9:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I got your advice
right here.
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 9:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just ignore him.
He did this to me a while back and he's done this to others.  I think he gets off on it so best not encourage him by responding.

by cranscape on Feb 27, 2008 9:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey man, I'm not trying to bring you guys down
"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 27, 2008 9:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!!
Kirk Hinrump is dead to me. :-)

by sue369 on Feb 27, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

awe yeah
gooden and hughes baby.  gooden has been a beast on the boards this quarter

by kig on Feb 27, 2008 8:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hughes!!!!!1
Hughes is better than first thought, bye bye ben gordon.

by armstrong2389 on Feb 27, 2008 8:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

ugh
can't anyone have a good game without it meaning it gets someone else off the team?

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Or at least...
"Alright, Drew Gooden can play center with Noah. Say hello to the D-League Aaron Gray!"

or

"Nice game by Hinrich, Gordon, Sefo, Hughes. See ya later Duhon!"

Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Feb 27, 2008 8:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

this game is plenty of proof
that hughes is gordon plus 4 inches.  And at least he can play some defense... bye bye gordon this summer

by kig on Feb 27, 2008 8:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather it be bye-bye Kirk
if we can get anything.  At least Gordon has an NBA skill (shooting) with room to get better.  I don't know what Kirk does well at the professional level.

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather see 'em BOTH go
and get one, really great All Star caliber guard
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Can't believe Boylan pulled TT again
What an ass clown.  That guy has no clue what the fuck he is doing.  How does TT not get half the game?  Terrible.  I bet he starts Gooden next game, too.  
Why don't you crack an egg of knowledge all over me, buddy.

by MarketMaker on Feb 27, 2008 8:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I was starting to think the same thing
It's a matter of time before Gooden starts.

Maybe they're showcasing him for next years trade deadline?

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 8:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

For the rest of the season
I'll be second guessing rotation decisions because they may be showcasing talent.  If they are trying to boost Gooden's value, I hope someone whispers to Tyrus on the side that they're just trying to clear the way for him to start.  Seriously, the kid needs some love.

by paxson43 on Feb 27, 2008 8:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You can just feel it.
It is exactly the wrong thing to do, so that is what Boylan is gonna do.  He just wants so badly not to play TT.  Even when he talks about him he won't give him a straight compliment without some backhanded remark about what he does wrong.
Why don't you crack an egg of knowledge all over me, buddy.

by MarketMaker on Feb 27, 2008 8:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Uh oh
These 9/17 27 point outbursts from Hughes scare me a little.  1) He will think he needs 20 shots/night 2) Boylan will think he needs 20 shots/night.  Now I'd be fine with that if Hughes were taking it to the rack and using his strengths as a slasher... but his shot chart tells me he's taking too many jumpers.  Ugh.

by paxson43 on Feb 27, 2008 8:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

hughes!!!!!1
Hughes +24 highest in game

by armstrong2389 on Feb 27, 2008 8:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

how many open players
is BG going to pass up this game?
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Feb 27, 2008 8:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thats the one downside
To the Hughes/Gordon backcourt (Which I really happen to like for the most part). They miss alot of  passes that would be easy scores.

If we had a true PG in there instead of either one of them then our guys would get alot more easy open baskets, especially Deng, Gooden, Tyrus, Noah, and Nocioni, and our pick/roll would be much more effective as well.

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 27, 2008 11:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

4 fouls
uh oh, who's boylan going to put in now?  cedric simmons?

by kig on Feb 27, 2008 8:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Gooden over the back
but even I can't complain. He almost had the reb.

by marionette on Feb 27, 2008 8:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Gotta agree with Matt from above
Deng kinda looks alright even though his shot doesn't

Still plays a heck of a game without the ball

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 8:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Deng just needs the 20 foot jumper to start
hitting again and he'll be getting 20+ consistently again.

by RogersPark Kris on Feb 27, 2008 8:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why not THABO in with Hughes
to finish this?

WTF does it always have to be BG, who repeatedly gets hammered and pumelled in these situtations?

Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Also
I'm really tired of everyone in the NBA thinking the Cavs made an amazing trade.

People actually think they're contenders now?!

It's hilarious

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 8:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The Ben Gordon hate
is getting seriously overboard.

by Kemp on Feb 27, 2008 8:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

the ben gordon love
is already seriously overboard
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What Ben Gordon
love?  This is one no BG zone.

by Kemp on Feb 27, 2008 8:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that's why
he just fucks up in crunch time... no d and out of control on offense.  honestly.  milk the freakin clock there

by kig on Feb 27, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ben Gordon: playmaker
gotta give him credit for contributing even when he's ice cold on the shot.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.
6 assists, 2 steals and a block.  I really like this backcourt personally.

Hinrich and Deng for Marion?

by Kemp on Feb 27, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Eh
Atlanta seems like they're headed for a win and Phili already beat Orlando.

This win don't mean much

But it does boost Boylans' ego

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 8:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Except
we don't fall further behind?

by JeffD on Feb 27, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Crippling isn't the word
Missing out on the playoffs isn't necessarily the worst thing, unless you believe it's important to make the playoffs 4 straight seasons (As Paxson likes to remind us)

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 8:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

well fine.
I meant crippling for a playoff run, since you mentioned it in the context of others going for the playoffs.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah
I'm goin both ways. I admit it.

I think this team forces it upon me. I never know what to think or feel

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 8:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The only thing i know for sure
is that every time the Bulls win, it is in spite of Boylan.  He is so overmatched it is laughable.  I don't think I've ever seen a coach, even interim, this bad... in any sport.

by JeffD on Feb 27, 2008 8:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I get the same mixed emotions
They win, they're closer to the playoffs but Boylan get credited somewhat.

They lose, they get a lottery pick (trade asset) and Boylan gets frowned upon.

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 8:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I really do not believe Boylan will be the coach
next year even if they make the playoffs.

by chgobr on Feb 27, 2008 8:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

do not believe Boylan will be the coach
one can only hope...
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice to see
Big Ben with 3 boards, 3 fouls and 2 turnovers in 19 minutes.

by JeffD on Feb 27, 2008 8:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

If we're gonna lose one of these guards
in the summer, my vote is to say goodbye to Kirk.  He makes way too much money to get torched by this third-rate guard.  

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 8:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Seconded
plus I would assume he has the most trade value.  

by Kemp on Feb 27, 2008 8:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

As much as it pains me to say it...
I am predicting we have seen the last game in which Tyrus starts for a while.  
The way Boylan has handled the minutes tonight, to me, screams that he is gonna make that move.
God, I hate that guy.
Why don't you crack an egg of knowledge all over me, buddy.

by MarketMaker on Feb 27, 2008 8:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

::nod::

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 8:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

however
I don't mind the Gooden/Noah frontcourt.  I don't like the idea of Tyrus moving to the bench/regressing, but that frontcourt is far better - and more exciting - than the Wallace/Smith wreckage we trotted out for a year.  

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 8:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It is much, much better
but, to me, the fact remains that Tyrus is still far and away the biggest talent we have in the frontcourt.  

With that in mind, I don't mind Gooden getting his minutes, but not at the detriment of Tyrus' minutes.  

I also think the Gooden/Tyrus lineup is a good one, but it seems like Boylan is trying to phase that out and make it an either/or situation.  

Why don't you crack an egg of knowledge all over me, buddy.

by MarketMaker on Feb 27, 2008 8:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Quinn Buckner says
Larry Hughes has been torching the Pacers for years.

by marionette on Feb 27, 2008 8:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I still like this team
We are no longer a boring mess

by chgobr on Feb 27, 2008 8:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
But still a predicting mess with Boylan running things

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 8:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Option27 - I do not believe Boylan will be the
coach next year even if they make the playoffs.

by chgobr on Feb 27, 2008 8:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with ya
I'm just talking bout the rest of the year. The yanking of Noah and Tyrus for no reason is the same shit as before.

by Option27 on Feb 27, 2008 8:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Certainly better then before the trade
but still a ways to go till they are back to elite status.

by RogersPark Kris on Feb 27, 2008 8:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

it's the difference between
pulling Tyrus and Noah for no reason and playing Wallace, and pulling Tyrus and Noah for no reason and playing Gooden.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure what you mean
when were they "elite" status (other than the MJ years)?
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 8:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he meant
Respectable and considered to be able to take "IT" in the weak east
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Feb 27, 2008 8:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

hey 'closing-out' harpies
Bulls outscore Pacers 31-25 in the 4th.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Alright im Complaining
Gordon played awesome, and hughes played great (gah one game means nothing, and theres a city of people and stats galore that say hes not a great shooter at all) but end of the game, and still no hinrich?!?! Seriously what the hell did he do wrong, cuz he obviously did something wrong to not play the entire game after his start in the second half. I mean did he mouth off to boylan or something or what happened?

All this ben gordon trade talk, in this game it seemed like hinrichs the one who getting ready to be traded.

Also, ben gordon DID play point pretty well tonight, i dont know if it will work every night, but yes tonight he did a great job. Hughes, well i already addressed him above. Tyrus was great tonight, and though gooden did play well, i thought thomas truly earned minutes of play...I mean we were fouling anyway, might as well put gooden and thomas together and see what comes of it, they both were playing decent.

Joakim noah couldve had 15 boards if he had played as much as gooden. I also miss skiles, sure he pulled people for stupid things, but there was  a sort of logic behind it that after awhile you knew why he did what he did. Uh, someone find out what hinrich did to not play ANY minutes....

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Feb 27, 2008 8:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

There is this
crazy thing called a boxscore, when looked at you see that Noah played 26:20 and Gooden played 25:36, which is less than 26:20.  Also, only a whopping 5 minutes more than Tyrus.

by Kemp on Feb 27, 2008 9:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry
I think i was more confused at kirk being on the bench and wanted to justify that other good players were too...mi mal, ill try not to do stuff like that again.
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Feb 27, 2008 9:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tomorrow's headline
"Bulls edge Pacers in spite of Boylan, selves"

by paxson43 on Feb 27, 2008 8:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

my headline, maybe
the papers will talk about the great job Boylan's doing juggling so much talent.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"Juggling Talent"?
Well get the man a unicycle cuz hes a CLOWN
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Feb 27, 2008 8:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Already what they are saying on Postgame Live
Gill - "Gooden is bringing what Tyrus was supposed to."  

by JeffD on Feb 27, 2008 8:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oy
that's a little extereme.  But I'm encouraged with gooden's play.  He's a strong dude, and he plays hard.  He a nice upgrade over Wallace, frankly.

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 9:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Suns losing by 20
Losing by 20 - paying Shaq 20 mil ..... do you think there is a relationship there?

by chgobr on Feb 27, 2008 8:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

paying Shaq 20 mil
might just be Kerr's first really bad NBA decision of his career
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 9:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Or in his view
that team is way too fast for HIM...    :-)
It prolly doesn't help the "happy-feel-good" factor that he makes more than anyone else on that team, either.
Spring training....FINALLY!!

by Bluelou on Feb 27, 2008 9:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Celtics just
got Pj Brown. Good or bad addition.                                   http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/press022708-pj-brown.html

by eross226 on Feb 27, 2008 8:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

ah, Wallace
sharing a larf on the bench with LeBron, down 13 with 2:30 to go.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

6 pts, 6, rbs, 0 blks, 0stls, 15.5 million
and a heaping hod of schadenfreud.  We absolutely robbed those guys.

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 8:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm listening to Boylan and he seems pissed
at Hinrich.  He said he didn't like the first few possessions of the third quarter and made him sit "next to me".  He was pissed when he said that.  That was interesting.

by chgobr on Feb 27, 2008 8:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Good for Boylan!
I've got nothing against Kirk, but we seem oddly married to this unathletic, streaky-shooting combo guard with limited court vision and creativity.  Where does it say Hinrich must start?  Is the Skiles-Kirk bloodpact still in effect?

by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 8:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't
he throw a couple lobs to Tyrus tonight as well as make some threes in the short time he was out there?   Looked to me like he was doing fine on our offense.  He was being burned defensively and that was likely why he got sat down.  

by cranscape on Feb 27, 2008 9:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I missed those positions
Were they truly that bad? Worse then ben gordon dribbling the shot clock away? Worse then Hughes over dribbling and running into guys (commiting fouls at the same time)? Worse than thabo traveling as soon as he gets the ball? What possibly could he have done that was so bad?
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Feb 27, 2008 9:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I meant
Possessions
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Feb 27, 2008 9:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever is going on he clearly
is angry at Kirk.  He made it clear that if you play lousy you will be pulled and sit next to me.  I have a feeling there is more to this than we know.

by chgobr on Feb 27, 2008 9:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is what beat writers are for
And yet i have a feeling no one will actually get to the bottom of this. I get tired of hearing "experts" spit out the same theories i have heard from fans, shouldnt they get to the bottom of whats going on, i seriously want to know what the hell kirk did...and it better have been really bad...
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Feb 27, 2008 9:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Chicago reporters really are weak
I cannot believe Kirk did something so bad during the game to trigger such an intense reaction by Boylan.  This is the first time I've seen him really upset.  This has got to be building up over time.

by chgobr on Feb 27, 2008 9:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So I guess he's past that phase where he was
wanting the guys to play loose and not worry so much about mistakes?  He's certainly got enough guards to do that now.

Maybe this is still related to Monday's game.

Maybe I'll take up hockey.

by wjb1492 on Feb 27, 2008 9:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Convenient
that the rule starts right after Wallace leaves.

by JeffD on Feb 27, 2008 9:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

AW MAN
Thanks for making me consider that, now i hate boylan a hella lot more then two seconds ago...JEEZ
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Feb 27, 2008 9:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the thing about it
Kirk was only in for two defensive possessions, and it wasn't like Diener was suddenly shut down, either.  I wonder if going out on the town in Dallas has something to do with it.  The should have played at least this well against Dallas.
Baby Bulls II?

by bullshooter on Feb 27, 2008 9:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

they all go out
where do you think 'flu-like symptoms' comes from?

I don't think that's the problem. Although, Kirk isn't quite good enough to do it excessively. Yet another teflon duhon phenomenon :)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 10:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Boylan said he
told the players to bring their "A" game or they would be sitting on the bench next to him and Kirk didn't bring his "A" game and he got benched. Hope he learned from this.
Kirk Hinrump is dead to me. :-)

by sue369 on Feb 27, 2008 9:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Impressive
I honestly have no idea where Gooden's 8 offensive boards came from.  I don't think anything external motivates him.

And I'm a Larry Hughes fan, so good for him, but remember: all roads lead to 40%.

See you Sunday.

by Matt in LA on Feb 27, 2008 9:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Far to much Boylan Hate
going on! Ease up!  Boylan might be a very special coach one day in the NBA...

by exult463 on Feb 27, 2008 10:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hes not that bad of a coach but hes
inconsistent with his rotations.(which i guess kinda  makes him a bad coach)

by eross226 on Feb 27, 2008 10:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

just maybe
If tonight's game is an indication that this group of Bulls might just be a solid set of complimentary players ...

http://www.nba.com/games/20080227/CHIIND/boxscore.html

then, maybe Chicago will, indeed, be able to accomplish the goals I see them reaching during the Eastern Conference Playoffs this spring.

http://khandorssportsblog.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/running-of-da-bulls/

There is now an abundance of young athletic basketball talent on this team, looking forward from this point.

by khandor on Feb 27, 2008 10:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with alot of that Kandor
No doubt

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 27, 2008 11:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Gooden and Hughes
Lookin pretty good, quite the upgrade. They both did a great job tonight, GREAT trade for us for the future and VERy good trade for us for this year. Both did a great job!

A guy that can create his own shots and make plays for teammates with his passing, gets to the foul line, good slasher, big guard, very good defender, good scorer

And a guy that can score inside, has to be guarded, you can post him up (First real post option we have had in 5 years), very good rebounder on both ends, and a very good option to run pick and roll with, athletic true power forward, solid passer from inside and he can get to the line himself..... unlike Big Ben, you have to guard him inside and he's a true post-up and pick/roll option that can score in all those ways. That opens up alot for our other talent, especially when compared to Big Ben.

Those were two big needs for us. That's a helluva acquisition both in their 20's in return for our two oldest players that had no longterm plans with us, we got much better for the future with that move and alot better for the rest of this year as well. VERY NICE TO SEE!

I LOVED TONIGHTS ROTATION! TY nOAH AND THABO GOT THEIR MINUTES TO DEvELOP AND WE STIll PLAYED ALL our BEST PLAYERS LotS OF MINuteS AND HAD THEM OuT THERE TO CLOSE Out THE GAME! THAT IS EXACTLY HOW IT SHOUld BE THIS YEAR (PLUS KIRK)! ALWAYS! GREAT JOB BOYLAN!

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 27, 2008 11:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Also, my boy Deng
Deng looked very good tonight too, he did a great job. Lookin like my boy from last season, the bulls been looking very good in the last 3 games. Cant wait to see it continue, we have a hell of a 9 man rotation with Hinrich, Deng, Gordon, Tyrus, Gooden, Thabo, Nocioni, Hughes and Noah. Good stuff, very deep, everyone should have a role, great bench, everyone ican score and can defend...... VERY NICE!!! Now lets beat out NJ, Atlanta, and Philly and get this 7 seed..... or better yet lets get the 6 seed if Caron Butler and Gilbert Arenas dont get back for Washington soon!!!! AWESOME STUFF! GO BULLS, IM VERY OPTIMISTIC!!!!!

by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 27, 2008 11:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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