Open Game Thread #57: Bulls at Indiana Pacers
[Thanks to chgobr for today's game preview. -Matt]
Tonight is another opportunity to digest the trade and the solve the Bulls puzzle. Can we find a combination that dazzled us against Denver? Can we better understand what is missing? Are all the pieces already here and nothing is missing? There is a great deal to like about this group of players. Our challenge is meshing, chemistry, synergy, finding a way for the sum to be greater than its parts and avoid redundancy (like I just did).
Tonight's game is between two struggling teams. The Bulls have lost 5 of 7 and the Pacers 12 of 15. Kirk Hinrich's 38 points led the Bulls to a 108-95 home victory Jan. 23. Kirk is salivating as he looks forward to facing Travis Diener again. Indiana, 22-35, a tad worse then our 22-34, have pieces (O'Neal, Murphy, Dunleavy, Tinsley, Foster, Marquis Daniels, Granger and Kareem Rush) and like us, are trying to solve the puzzle. Speculation about O'Neal and Tinsley's knees and their return abound. If you could guarantee O'Neal's health he would be in the mix for Bulls savior. O'Neal's knees and $19.7, $21.3, and $23 through 2009-10 make him almost impossible to move. Against Toronto Monday the Pacers came from 10 down and Kareem Rush almost tied it with a three. Expect the Pacers to play with energy as they did against Toronto.
" We really competed our hearts out in the second half," Pacers coach Jim O'Brien said. "We played a good basketball team, never gave up ....."Bulls - Pacers: opportunity to examine pieces and solve our puzzle.
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Kirk better be going for 46 tonight...
I am glad he came out strong
I hope
Break this losing streak guys.
I'm stuck with tape delay tonight
Don't know which is worse
But, NOOOOooooo...
I gotta watch it via Indiana's feed which is not HD, and the comms sucketh....
Sigh....
This is a time where
Tyrus
People will soon respect it and then he really shines
Tyrus totally solid all around tonight
Love the opposing (IND)
Last night's POR game the Laker guy sez: " How much do the fans in Chicago regret the trade of LaMarcus now?" Answer: Not at all, dipstick!
when is the last time
The marionette
slam-a-roo!
we like the stuffing of the basket. plz do it again fellas.
Not sure.... He should be in for another 3-4
A reason to fret
That's why it's bullshit.
Gooden can have some minutes. I ain't mad at that.
Boylan can suck it
my thoughts exactly
If bullshooter were here, he'd explain it.
he's playing 5 and 5
Ok let's all take notice
He had 4 points, 5 boards and a nice assist to Deng.
Looks more active than anyone on the court!
HE ALSO ONLY HAS ONE FOUL.
I ask why?
how long has Gray been out there?
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 6:46 PM CST reply actions
well, he's +1 right now and 2-2 FT's
as someone here said once
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
I thought we were making progress here.
I only brought up the +/- stat for your sake
WTF is with the officiating again
I'm only puzzled by Aaron Gray
Boylan is the main reason this game is close
Taking the whole line up out with about 3 minutes left in the 1st was his second mistake.
Keeping Gray in for so long is his 3rd mistake
Noah just watching from the bench still is his 4th mistake (Noah could have a big game against a team like Indiana)
And yanking Tyrus out again with about 10 to go in the second was his 5th mistake (all due to that infamous 2nd foul in the first half).
Boylan makes me sick
Boylan makes me sick
Yup
by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 6:59 PM CST up reply actions
Let's hog tie him...
by AGBallinisaHabit on Feb 27, 2008 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
can we call them 'Thabo TOs' now?
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 6:55 PM CST reply actions
I hate how this game is going
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 6:59 PM CST reply actions
what the hell?
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 7:00 PM CST reply actions
Thabo
is Boylan 'going small'
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 7:01 PM CST reply actions
Is Tyrus
Hey Jim, usually your best player on the court is in foul trouble if he has 3 fouls before the half!
I strongly dislike this toolbag
by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 7:02 PM CST reply actions
Anyone else thinks
Over dribble? One of our guards?
i enjoy watching this team so much
ticky tack fouls
by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 7:04 PM CST reply actions
The Bulls
I think coaches have them do 75-100 pump fakes before bed every night
Heh
Gooden
But yet it take him "3" fouls to get back to the bench
::nods head in disbelief::
can we slap a ref plz!
you're really distinguishing yourself.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
you like it
Matt "Damen"
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
You know, I'm a huge Bulls fan,
Nevertheless, go Bulls.
by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 7:19 PM CST reply actions
that was a bad half.
That and the Tyrus yank was bogus. (10 minutes this half??)
But overall nobody's really playing well so hard to completely call out Boylan the boob.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
I couldn't disagree more.
PHX vs NO locally here, but I'll be watching this one, so I'll measure my "huge fan" next to anyone's. I saw as much (or more) brilliance and liveliness as flatness and stupidity.
It's easier if you simply watch the game. Put little credence in the negatives here.
tyger1147
Boylan's halftime speech
Who cares if he fouls out a game!
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 27, 2008 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
Trivia
Marcuz Fizer???
Marcus Fizer?
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
sweet, he's back in
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
oh jeez
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 7:29 PM CST up reply actions
Why do the Bulls
I don't understand it myself
by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
viewed by refs as a pretty "whiny" team
Does that make the Pistons
I don't see us as terribly whiny. We just have twice as many things to be upset about than most teams who don't get handled by the refs as we do. What I don't get is why are the Pacers so great that they get handled with kiddy gloves by the refs? I'd expect the Bulls to get short handed on fouls against a good team, but the Pacers?
I very rarely see Kirk, Noc, Noah
by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
Captain Kirk and Captain Chuck (Noc)
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 27, 2008 7:32 PM CST reply actions
We're getting smoked by a third-rate
by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 7:33 PM CST reply actions
Got to love our color commentator
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 27, 2008 7:34 PM CST reply actions
What the hell is with Deng?
by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 7:37 PM CST reply actions
boylan
Leon Wood is one of the NBA's worst,
None of these is a bad as Violet.
Deng's jumper just flat SUCKS tonight
Diener has 16 points
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 27, 2008 7:43 PM CST reply actions
Hinrich could take him
LOL
by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 7:44 PM CST reply actions
TT
Did kirk do something to get benched?
hughes is officially
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 7:54 PM CST reply actions
WTF is going on withTT's PT?
Boylan
Looks for any excuse to take Tyrus out.
if Pax really isn't giving any input in PT
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
He has a man crush on Gooden's beard
Boylan wrote on his palm pregame
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
Gooden's definitely coming back
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
man, this is an awful game to watch
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 7:59 PM CST reply actions
lingering around with a lesser opponent
Even tied it again to end the 3rd....
Nobody seems to want to take it up a notch and run away with it.
Nice put back by Tyrus
anyone see noc wave tyrus towards the basket?
Ok, not to rub it in
If the Pacers cut it to 4, Boylan might think a sub for Thomas is due
I hear you
by BoxingHideout on Feb 27, 2008 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
Without a doubt, Noc has earned the right for more
I fucking hate this team.
close to the "hurting the youth" area
BW fan
ugh, that was an awful shot attempt
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:12 PM CST reply actions
You get the feeling
Not to mention
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 27, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
sub
heard that
Hughes wanted out and wanted Kirk in
gee I wonder why we often get hosed by refs
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:16 PM CST reply actions
there are 2 guys who can play point on this team
by danger mouse on Feb 27, 2008 8:16 PM CST reply actions
doing should be during
by danger mouse on Feb 27, 2008 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Why was Hinrich yelling at Bob Delaney?
Gordon is handling the ball
Gordon is handling the ball
by danger mouse on Feb 27, 2008 8:19 PM CST reply actions
Great - now Deng replaces Tyrus?
Oh brother....
Boylan pulls Tyrus
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:20 PM CST reply actions
I was just gonna say that!
"Proof" Boylan is dumb.
Of course, his logic might be, "Well, if they're fouling, then they obviously aren't playing that well." Because, of course, that's the best indicator of playing prowess.
well Boylan thinks
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
No, because
by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 27, 2008 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
gordon
Luckily,
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 27, 2008 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
don't get sucked in
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
Hughes might just be the difference tonight
I actually think Deng's playing alright
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:21 PM CST reply actions
You mean
What are you talking about?
I'm talking about tonight
You're averaging 5 stupid comments per day
it is truly amazing
Heh, yeah
And you're a peach
despite your obviously distorted view of yourself
But you don't see me insulting you.
So take the stick outta your ass, will ya?
Whew, 2 replies
I may be a classic for annoyance, but at least I try to keep my comments down to a minimum. I'm pretty sure you take 1/4 of tonights' replies.
Alright, here's the thing. I enjoy reading the comments of the quality posters around here(hscs, bullshooter, sbulls, '58, sue, KT and wjb to name a few) but you haven't come up with any real opinions, or made any contributions since you've been here.
A little quality advice headed towards you right now: shut up for a little bit, get the feel of the blog, and start posting again.
I got your advice
Just ignore him.
Hey man, I'm not trying to bring you guys down
awe yeah
he's doing his best
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
Hughes!!!!!1
ugh
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
Or at least...
or
"Nice game by Hinrich, Gordon, Sefo, Hughes. See ya later Duhon!"
this game is plenty of proof
I'd rather it be bye-bye Kirk
by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
I'd rather see 'em BOTH go
Can't believe Boylan pulled TT again
I was starting to think the same thing
Maybe they're showcasing him for next years trade deadline?
For the rest of the season
You can just feel it.
Uh oh
how many open players
Thats the one downside
If we had a true PG in there instead of either one of them then our guys would get alot more easy open baskets, especially Deng, Gooden, Tyrus, Noah, and Nocioni, and our pick/roll would be much more effective as well.
by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 27, 2008 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
4 fouls
Gotta agree with Matt from above
Still plays a heck of a game without the ball
Deng just needs the 20 foot jumper to start
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 27, 2008 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
Why not THABO in with Hughes
WTF does it always have to be BG, who repeatedly gets hammered and pumelled in these situtations?
Also
People actually think they're contenders now?!
It's hilarious
The Ben Gordon hate
by Kemp @ Blog a Bull on Feb 27, 2008 8:30 PM CST reply actions
the ben gordon love
What Ben Gordon
by Kemp @ Blog a Bull on Feb 27, 2008 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
that's why
Ben Gordon: playmaker
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:31 PM CST reply actions
Yeah.
Hinrich and Deng for Marion?
by Kemp @ Blog a Bull on Feb 27, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Eh
This win don't mean much
But it does boost Boylans' ego
it means alot
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Crippling isn't the word
well fine.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
I think this team forces it upon me. I never know what to think or feel
The only thing i know for sure
I get the same mixed emotions
They lose, they get a lottery pick (trade asset) and Boylan gets frowned upon.
do not believe Boylan will be the coach
If we're gonna lose one of these guards
by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 8:40 PM CST reply actions
Seconded
by Kemp @ Blog a Bull on Feb 27, 2008 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
Ben Wallace with a monster 4 rebounds so far
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 27, 2008 8:41 PM CST reply actions
As much as it pains me to say it...
The way Boylan has handled the minutes tonight, to me, screams that he is gonna make that move.
God, I hate that guy.
however
by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
It is much, much better
With that in mind, I don't mind Gooden getting his minutes, but not at the detriment of Tyrus' minutes.
I also think the Gooden/Tyrus lineup is a good one, but it seems like Boylan is trying to phase that out and make it an either/or situation.
I'm with ya
Certainly better then before the trade
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 27, 2008 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
it's the difference between
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure what you mean
I think he meant
hey 'closing-out' harpies
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:46 PM CST reply actions
Alright im Complaining
All this ben gordon trade talk, in this game it seemed like hinrichs the one who getting ready to be traded.
Also, ben gordon DID play point pretty well tonight, i dont know if it will work every night, but yes tonight he did a great job. Hughes, well i already addressed him above. Tyrus was great tonight, and though gooden did play well, i thought thomas truly earned minutes of play...I mean we were fouling anyway, might as well put gooden and thomas together and see what comes of it, they both were playing decent.
Joakim noah couldve had 15 boards if he had played as much as gooden. I also miss skiles, sure he pulled people for stupid things, but there was a sort of logic behind it that after awhile you knew why he did what he did. Uh, someone find out what hinrich did to not play ANY minutes....
There is this
by Kemp @ Blog a Bull on Feb 27, 2008 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry
my headline, maybe
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
"Juggling Talent"?
Already what they are saying on Postgame Live
oy
by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
Suns losing by 20
paying Shaq 20 mil
Or in his view
It prolly doesn't help the "happy-feel-good" factor that he makes more than anyone else on that team, either.
The Celtics just
ah, Wallace
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 8:55 PM CST reply actions
6 pts, 6, rbs, 0 blks, 0stls, 15.5 million
by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
I'm listening to Boylan and he seems pissed
Good for Boylan!
by Freethefro on Feb 27, 2008 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
I missed those positions
I meant
Whatever is going on he clearly
This is what beat writers are for
Chicago reporters really are weak
So I guess he's past that phase where he was
Maybe this is still related to Monday's game.
AW MAN
the thing about it
they all go out
I don't think that's the problem. Although, Kirk isn't quite good enough to do it excessively. Yet another teflon duhon phenomenon :)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Boylan said he
Impressive
And I'm a Larry Hughes fan, so good for him, but remember: all roads lead to 40%.
See you Sunday.
Far to much Boylan Hate
Hes not that bad of a coach but hes
just maybe
http://www.nba.com/games/20080227/CHIIND/boxscore.html
then, maybe Chicago will, indeed, be able to accomplish the goals I see them reaching during the Eastern Conference Playoffs this spring.
http://khandorssportsblog.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/running-of-da-bulls/
There is now an abundance of young athletic basketball talent on this team, looking forward from this point.
I agree with alot of that Kandor
by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 27, 2008 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
Gooden and Hughes
A guy that can create his own shots and make plays for teammates with his passing, gets to the foul line, good slasher, big guard, very good defender, good scorer
And a guy that can score inside, has to be guarded, you can post him up (First real post option we have had in 5 years), very good rebounder on both ends, and a very good option to run pick and roll with, athletic true power forward, solid passer from inside and he can get to the line himself..... unlike Big Ben, you have to guard him inside and he's a true post-up and pick/roll option that can score in all those ways. That opens up alot for our other talent, especially when compared to Big Ben.
Those were two big needs for us. That's a helluva acquisition both in their 20's in return for our two oldest players that had no longterm plans with us, we got much better for the future with that move and alot better for the rest of this year as well. VERY NICE TO SEE!
I LOVED TONIGHTS ROTATION! TY nOAH AND THABO GOT THEIR MINUTES TO DEvELOP AND WE STIll PLAYED ALL our BEST PLAYERS LotS OF MINuteS AND HAD THEM OuT THERE TO CLOSE Out THE GAME! THAT IS EXACTLY HOW IT SHOUld BE THIS YEAR (PLUS KIRK)! ALWAYS! GREAT JOB BOYLAN!
by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 27, 2008 11:37 PM CST reply actions
Also, my boy Deng
by Deng is the next Bull superstar on Feb 27, 2008 11:38 PM CST reply actions

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