Wallace vs. the Bucks (and the Cavs)
Anybody cozy up to their league pass like myself and watch Wallace (and Smith) and the Cavs tonight?
Funny to see a stretch in the 2nd quarter where Wallace botched two straight close opportunities. Not that such things can't happen, but to a Bulls fan it's good stuff.
I was worried that the Cavs were going to pull away (and ruin my prognostication over at TBJ) until Mike Brown put Wallace back in during the 4th. Although Brown did save some face by subbing him out with under 2 minutes left on offense.
I didn't know that Big Z would be out tonight, so it meant a lot of Wallace and Varejao together. That went predictably on offense.
Wallace finished (in 32 minutes) 2-6 from the field, 3-4 from the line, for 7 points. 11 rebounds (only 5 defensive though). A by-far-worst plus/minus of -14.
:-D
The Bucks won, by the way, on a last-second heave by Michael Redd. They likely wouldn't have needed it if they didn't miss so many free throws near the end.
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I caught the end.
I don't remember where, but I was reading one analyst predict that things will go south in Cleveland quickly because BW needs some ego-stroaking and Lebron is used to denigrating teammates. I'm interested to see what happens there.
Classic
Milwaukee's only a half game behind the Bulls
eh, good point
On the plus side, New Jersey lost.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 26, 2008 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
by Hendo g on Feb 27, 2008 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
It was a great game for the Bucks
Joe Smith, otoh, is a plus. sniff The FSN Milwaukee network should Wally S's slightly dirty tactics, too.
haha yeah
looks like the honeymoon only lasted one game.
by Orlando Woolridge on Feb 27, 2008 12:56 AM CST reply actions
Now hold on now...
Seriously though I have March 3 for when he's back to 8 boards a game.
by ForWhomTheBullTolls on Feb 27, 2008 3:37 AM CST reply actions
-14 ..... the Corpse surfaces in Cleveland
More from BrewHoop
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 9:28 AM CST reply actions
Wallace is supporting evidence...
Looking at the box score
Joe Smith was a +4.
it wasn't just the officiating
And the Cavs were in control of the game most of the way.
by KT on Feb 27, 2008 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
Feb 29th: Wolves vs Cavs
People
Am I the only one who watched that game?
Besides him going 2 for 2 from the line, he was horrid.
All his points came on easy dunks and his rebounds just fell to him without even jumping.
I love that we've dropped his misery on a team we'll be battling in the future.
I'm surprised ABC still kept Sunday's game between the Bulls and Cavs.
I guess they're excited about the new rivalry between the two teams!
Yeah right, who am I kidding? They'll televise a Cavs game if they were playing Memphis.
shout-out to Tom Dore?
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 10:15 AM CST reply actions
The like Joe
Did you catch the look at how Wally hooks players? I hope someone hits him hard some day, in a non-dirty way.
that's how kirk hurt his back.
by bullshooter on Feb 27, 2008 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
Ben Wallace made the NBATV top 10 plays
Ben Wallace is play #7. ;)
It took me few times through
Kelly Dwyer
Mike, you can't let this guy set your screens. Teams don't have to guard him, they don't guard him, and the result often sees LeBron James having to rise over a double-team just to make a desperate pass some 28 feet from the goal, with the shot clock winding down. Wallace pulled in 11 rebounds (five offensive, mostly tap-outs, impressive stuff), but he's killing your team if you leave him in too long, and/or involve him offensively.
With Zydrunas Ilgauskas sick and Anderson Varejao in foul trouble, leaving Wallace out there for 32 minutes was passable to a point (even that's stretching it), but Brown has to take more advantage of Joe Smith's career year.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 11:21 AM CST reply actions
Take a gander
Short short version: Shaq sat the entire 4th quarter which the Suns outscored the Grizz by 14 to win the game by 14.
lol, Kerr
by NBA Observer on Feb 27, 2008 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
It is fascinating how smart basketball people
Kerr was last to adopt-a-shaq POV
- Amare
- Amare and Nash
- D'Antoni
- Sarver
- Kerr
by NBA Observer on Feb 27, 2008 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
maybe it originated from Reinsdorf
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 27, 2008 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
I'm curious about your Noce-hate, and BG love.
This is net +- adjusted per 100 possessions for the whole season.
Noah +8,6
Thomas +3,8
Thabo +3,5
Noce +3,3
Kirk -0,1
Duh -0,2
Gray -3,5
Deng -3,6
Gordon -7,3
LH -1,4
Gooden -15,9 (But they have not played enough minutes for a statistical basis.)
Also Noah is the ONLY Bull with a positive ON-floor for 100 pos.
Benny the Bull is the ONLY Bull with a positive OFF-floor per 100 pos.
Noc is clearly a better contributor to the Bulls than BG so I'm wondering if you're willing to admit you are a BG-fan rather than a Bulls-fan or merely severely misguided?
by Bass on Feb 28, 2008 3:37 AM CST up reply actions
there's been more than one season
(I looked it up)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 28, 2008 8:10 AM CST up reply actions
Speaking of living in the past
"He was DPOY both of the years that I had him"
Way to pad yourself on the back there Rick.
"Not only are you getting a guy who's going to be top 5 in rbg and bpg, but you're bringing an intimidating presence"
If he meant on his OWN TEAM, then he's probably right.. In the league he's 24th and 21st respectively. And "intimidating presence"?? Come on!
"There are a lot of guys in this league who are just flat-out scared to play against Ben Wallace"
Wha-wha-WHAT??? ROFL
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3271471&n8pe6c=2&categoryId=2459 788
And here I was thinking he might be a candidate to take over after BaB assasinates Boylan, which I'm hoping will happen REAL soon.
He is really destroying this team.
by Bass on Mar 1, 2008 4:18 AM CST up reply actions
how many times
by KirkHinrump on Feb 27, 2008 11:34 AM CST reply actions
I guess we'll have to wait and see, won't we.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
60 Million * 40%
It's the Chandler effect
Bullshooter you are so right!!!
I don't wish him ill
by Coach Van Lier on Feb 27, 2008 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
I want him to be awful
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 27, 2008 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
I 3rd that
But when he never came around, I said I think he just didn't give a crap, but I always hoped it was more that he just lost his way with those injuries he had earlier this year and the age caught up to him......
I hope he stinks because if he stinks I can still like him and like his career. If he turns things around and is the beast he was in Detroit, then forget about it, he sucks in my mind......
Imagine if Adrian Griffen
You forgot
Sorry
i keep hearing
He underperformed
That's why when he sucked earlier this year at first I was like, oh well he's injured he'll come on a bit, but when he seemed to get worse and lose any passion he may have had on opening night, I was sick of him and thought we were stuck.
That's why I think Paxson won the lottery for the Bulls.....we obviously aren't much better, but we COULD be much better in 1-2 yrs without the albatross that was Big Ben and the potential trade options we have again to get us to a high level VERY QUICKLY....now the trade just has to happen and work...
I think
The problem with Wallace is that he didn't even seem to care about the Bulls last year immediately after signing a franchise player deal, and this year he made no attempt to hide the fact that he was disinterested. I defended Wallace all year last year, and I even gave him the benefit of the doubt after the stomach-turning episode in which he hung out with the opposing team's players during a playoff series. But Wallace's behavior this year was indefensible. Laughing on the bench during blowouts, childishly demanding crunch-time minutes even while shooting under 40% from the line much of the season, and the various Joakim Noah-related incidents in which he flexed his "veteran" muscle to intimidate an idiotic and overmatched rookie coach all created well-founded fan animosity towards Wallace. He didn't care at all about the fate of this team, his heart was still with the Pistons while he was accepting the larger Bulls paychecks, and he was actively and intentionally sabotaging one of the Bulls' best young players. These are the reasons that bad feelings linger, not the fact that age and injuries have made Wallace a less capable player. Sucking and caring is forgivable; sucking and not caring creates a rift.

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