2008 Trade Deadline(2pm CST) thread
::crickets::
Chris Duhon's expiring salary also could attract last-minute interest.
oh.
One thing's for certain: whether or not starting last night's overtime with Duhon/Gordon/Hinrich/Smith/Wallace, and following with Duhon/Gordon/Hinrich/Nocioni/Wallace(!) was a case of 'showcasing' or not (it wasn't), that rationalization is out the window from now on.
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at least....
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 8:35 AM CST
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prediction
BaBLittleAchiever234evah: Paxton traded Duhon for nuthing! He could start on alot uv teamz! This is just the sam thing he did to Crawford and Jr. Smirth.
(a shame this stands for a positive attitude.)
by hscs on
Feb 21, 2008 9:03 AM CST
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I like the name mis-spelling
by KT on
Feb 21, 2008 9:50 AM CST
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duhon...
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 9:06 AM CST
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What I hope for post-deadline
By the way, Windhorst is hinting that big things are about to go down in Cleveland. (h/t: FanHouse)
by paxson43 on
Feb 21, 2008 9:12 AM CST
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Couple things
PSS Did anyone see Pau Gasol last night or that guy Kobe Bryant. Man to think we MIGHT/COULDVE/SHOULDVE/WOULDVE have had either of those guys on our team.
by Bulls4Ever on
Feb 21, 2008 9:31 AM CST
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Where are those mean boys
Can we revive the Nocioni for Williams talk? I know it would scramble our guard picture even more than it already is, but it's only scrambled because nobody's good enough to absolutely stand out from the crowd. Last night's game showed that even a near-rookie-but-gifted ball handler/passer can dominate the offensive game flow.
by eGirl on
Feb 21, 2008 9:46 AM CST
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Please
by RogersPark Kris on
Feb 21, 2008 10:01 AM CST
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The most obvious deficiency
by eGirl on
Feb 21, 2008 10:26 AM CST
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I like it better everyday
At least Williams is under contract and gives the Bulls reason enough not to re-sign Duhon
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Feb 21, 2008 10:02 AM CST
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KD had a great mini-rant about Noc
by Mike C on
Feb 21, 2008 10:31 AM CST
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Every game I watch I get more convinced that Noc
The dude's an undersized four. Or rather, he's an undersized four defensively, and an underskilled three offensively. I think he could be a valueable player off the bench, as long as we have a coach with the mind to utilize him effectively. The combination of Boylan and injuries have not served him well.
by Freethefro on
Feb 21, 2008 10:43 AM CST
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On a recent telecast,
by eGirl on
Feb 21, 2008 11:00 AM CST
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I agree with JVG's philosophy on that
4 more years(on the contract)!
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Feb 21, 2008 11:04 AM CST
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As much as the Bulls get killed by dribble
by RogersPark Kris on
Feb 21, 2008 11:03 AM CST
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if we could trade Noc for Marcus Williams
by Freethefro on
Feb 21, 2008 10:18 AM CST
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I'm tired of all the Noc hate
Nocioni's a solid player and one of the few who constantly tries to do something on this lackluster team. That says enough for me. Save Chapu!
If the rest of this team wasn't so inept, we would likely value Noc more....
I would be pissed if we got rid of Nocioni for another hack player who doesn't know how to play under pressure.....Noc is the only Bull who has any fire to him at all, the rest of the guys (Even Gordon) go through moments of complete ineptness.
Noc has his bad shooting nights, and the occasional dumb turnover or bad defensive set, but he more than makes up for it.
The Noc hate here is ridiculous. He's not a star, but then again he's hardly paid as a star. He's a solid 6th man and paid as such (maybe marginally too high, but not materially too high). He's still a starter on plenty of ball clubs too, but is effect in bursts off the bench.
I mean the guy avg's almost 22 pts in 40 minutes. He's been in a bit of a shooting slump, but he'll get over it, and has played better than avg more than he's had bad games.
by majoyenrac on
Feb 21, 2008 12:30 PM CST
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base year bad luck
My only issue with Noc's contract is the length. I like a max of 4 years for bench player contracts. Beyond that and you're getting yourself into trouble.
by NBA Observer on
Feb 21, 2008 12:41 PM CST
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I agree
Noc's contract is bad in the length and it's also bad because of our almost inconceivable struggles this year (making Noc, someone who could have been a trading chip when we were bad, into an untradable asset this year when we needed to make a big trade since he's got the BYC)....If this team performed like or close to expectations (basically if we were a shade over .500, most would be happy with Noc, that's all I'm saying....
He just stands out because he would be tradable, but isn't due to timing.
Thankfully we made a splash yesterday, I love hearing all the talk that Big Ben's going to be a difference maker and now puts Cleveland in the mix for the ECF......Gooden's been better than Ben this year, and while Hughes is a bad contract, who knows he could be good again in a different offensive set playing without a similarly styled (though far more skilled) James....
I like the trade for the Bulls.....it at least starts pointing us to the future. Having 2 more years of Ben's declining skills and even less motivation, would really have put us in the cellar.
by majoyenrac on
Feb 22, 2008 10:06 AM CST
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I'd love for four players to be traded...
by tyger1147 on
Feb 21, 2008 10:19 AM CST
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That OT last night
by Mike C on
Feb 21, 2008 10:33 AM CST
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This is typically
The most exciting read so far has been . . .
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 10:37 AM CST
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Well so much
by Bulls4Ever on
Feb 21, 2008 10:39 AM CST
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I'd take
I think Joe is a better player than Jason--because all Jason can do is shoot, but he's a lights out shooter).
I would make this trade though just because it would be interesting for the Bulls to actually have 2 real shooters on the team, 2 offensive minded wings for once in Kapono and Gordon.
Jason would come off the bench, and free up time for Tyrus.
I agree with everyone's post that that OT was hard to watch yesterday. The refs didn't help matters with their one sided ticky-tackness, but at the same time the Bulls looked worse than even their record would indicate.....
by majoyenrac on
Feb 21, 2008 12:34 PM CST
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Kapono is a defensive liability
I think we can do better than Kapono.
by NBA Observer on
Feb 21, 2008 12:44 PM CST
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I'm checking like you guys - nothing so far
by chgobr on
Feb 21, 2008 10:52 AM CST
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in other news...
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 10:56 AM CST
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A deal was attempted
by Freethefro on
Feb 21, 2008 11:01 AM CST
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ha-ha
by eGirl on
Feb 21, 2008 11:02 AM CST
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Well...
by eGirl on
Feb 21, 2008 11:07 AM CST
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Wallace Trade
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/ian_thomsen/02/21/deadline.notes/index.html?eref=T1
I think I'd actually do this trade to get out from underneath his contract, and to get Noah/Thomas/Gray more PT. I don't know if the Magic would be willing to take the hit financially, but it seems like they're serious about making a run and want some help for Howard (Bosh did torch them for 40 last night and Van Gundy ripped Howard in the press again). I'd even take the 1st rounder out if the Magic balked.
Bulls:
Magic 2008 1st Rounder
Garrity
Foyle
Dooling
Arroyo
Augustine
Magic:
Wallace
Nichols
by FPax on
Feb 21, 2008 11:03 AM CST
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I'd do this...
Hell, if they want HasBen, make the deal.
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 11:10 AM CST
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What's interesting
Wonder bout what?
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 11:12 AM CST
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I think he meant in general
by Freethefro on
Feb 21, 2008 11:13 AM CST
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I would do this too
Keyon Dooling also can be a flashy, Pargo-esque player without the jacking up all the shots.
I think we'd have to remove the Magic 1st rounder, we easily could have gotten that and more before this season, but we're already fetching a lot for Big Ben considering his production this year....
I don't know if I pull the trigger if I'm the Magic though.....they might want Duhon, who while I bashed above, Duhon might fit their team better as he's more consistent than Arroyo, and that's something they need with their 3 bigs (Howard, Lewis, and Turkaglu).
by majoyenrac on
Feb 21, 2008 12:38 PM CST
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Well played
by paxson43 on
Feb 21, 2008 11:39 AM CST
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Anything to get rid of Wallace
by Jobu on
Feb 21, 2008 11:42 AM CST
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Hey--why do you say that?
Zac, I'm sorry we've already disagreed on a couple of things. Don't take it personally.
by eGirl on
Feb 21, 2008 12:30 PM CST
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while I would love
Let's all face it...this is our team for the rest of the season, like it (few do) or not (most don't).
by ScottieCartwright on
Feb 21, 2008 11:48 AM CST
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Seriously, though..
by tyger1147 on
Feb 21, 2008 11:51 AM CST
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from the ESPN chat
"Michael East Providence, RI: I feel that the Chicago Bulls need a big man for a low post player. What are the chances that the Chicago Bulls will make a trade today for get that type of player.
Chad Ford: (1:05 PM ET ) After another bad loss last night ... you have to wonder what Paxson is thinking? They have assets, but seem to be paralyzed in making a move. Maybe he feels it's best to let this season play out and then fix things in the summer. So no ... I don't think the Bulls are dealing."
Damn.
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 12:11 PM CST
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Please Pax, Please
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Ryan, Chicago: Please tell me Ben Wallace is on the move
Chad Ford: (1:24 PM ET ) Maybe ... call was about Ben Wallace in a possible deal with the Cavs. I've got to stress that it was from what I'd call a third party source ... not someone directly involved in the negotiations. So ... take it with a grain of salt ... but interesting ...
by FPax on
Feb 21, 2008 12:26 PM CST
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Oh shit!
Ryan, Chicago: Please tell me Ben Wallace is on the move
Chad Ford: (1:24 PM ET ) Maybe ... call was about Ben Wallace in a possible deal with the Cavs. I've got to stress that it was from what I'd call a third party source ... not someone directly involved in the negotiations. So ... take it with a grain of salt ... but interesting ...
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 12:26 PM CST
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getting my hopes up...
Eric (Tampa): Chad...Do you see the Nets making another move? Heard anything?
Chad Ford: (1:19 PM ET ) There was some talk last night about a potential deal for Nene that would include the expiring contracts of Magloire, Bostjan Nachbar and Darrell Armstrong ... but the word this morning is that those talks have cooled significantly. I'm not sure why you risk it with Nene right now. He's been diagnosed with testicular cancer and he has 4 years, $43 million left on his deal.
Chad Ford: (1:19 PM ET ) Hold on a second ... have to take this call on a possible trade ...
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Ryan, Chicago: Please tell me Ben Wallace is on the move
Chad Ford: (1:24 PM ET ) Maybe ... call was about Ben Wallace in a possible deal with the Cavs. I've got to stress that it was from what I'd call a third party source ... not someone directly involved in the negotiations. So ... take it with a grain of salt ... but interesting ...
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 12:26 PM CST
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interesting
Chad Ford: (1:24 PM ET ) Maybe ... call was about Ben Wallace in a possible deal with the Cavs. I've got to stress that it was from what I'd call a third party source ... not someone directly involved in the negotiations. So ... take it with a grain of salt ... but interesting ...
by tyrus4prez on
Feb 21, 2008 12:26 PM CST
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He added more..
by SRQman on
Feb 21, 2008 12:27 PM CST
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the Bulls would get...
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 12:28 PM CST
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in return
by tyrus4prez on
Feb 21, 2008 12:28 PM CST
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addition
How quickly can Pax say yes?
by BNeL21 on
Feb 21, 2008 12:29 PM CST
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Wow I'm slow.
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Feb 21, 2008 12:30 PM CST
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HAHAHA!
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 12:27 PM CST
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Perfect Wallace trade
Knicks get Ben Wallace
Heat get Eddy Curry, Fred Jones
I ran it on the NBA trade machine last night and it works. Heat get Eddy Curry, who they for some reason want. Bulls get 2 expiring contracts and David Lee, a promising PF. And the Knicks get Ben Wallace, who they pair with Zach Randolph as the defensive ace.
Someone get Paxson on the phone! This trade makes too much sense.
by danger mouse on
Feb 21, 2008 12:28 PM CST
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The only negativ
by majoyenrac on
Feb 21, 2008 12:41 PM CST
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David Lee is off limits
by NBA Observer on
Feb 21, 2008 12:46 PM CST
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Marion being actively shopped
It looks like he is heading towards Cleveland, but without a doubt we could throw them a better offer.
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/51011/20080221/gms_miami_shopping_marion/
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Feb 21, 2008 12:30 PM CST
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wow...
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 12:32 PM CST
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Maybe the Cavs
by Sports2 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:00 PM CST
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breaking
SportsNation Chad Ford: (1:24 PM ET ) Maybe ... call was about Ben Wallace in a possible deal with the Cavs. I've got to stress that it was from what I'd call a third party source ... not someone directly involved in the negotiations. So ... take it with a grain of salt ... but interesting ...
SportsNation Chad Ford: (1:25 PM ET ) The deal as I heard it ... by the way ... had Drew Gooden, Ira Newble, Shannon Brown and Cederic Simmons coming back to Chicago.
by JSlakov on
Feb 21, 2008 12:32 PM CST
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love it
by tyrus4prez on
Feb 21, 2008 12:35 PM CST
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Re: love it
I would change my login if Pax pulled this one off.
by FPax on
Feb 21, 2008 12:38 PM CST
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If Gooden were coming back
They won't unless they're getting something major back (a pick?, Gordon? etc.). That's my view anyway.
by Sports2 on
Feb 21, 2008 12:50 PM CST
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Lets trade Kirk
by Zac23 on
Feb 21, 2008 12:36 PM CST
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I think Chad Ford's "Phone Calls"
by BNeL21 on
Feb 21, 2008 12:39 PM CST
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I beg for a Wallace trade
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 12:39 PM CST
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I second that!
by BNeL21 on
Feb 21, 2008 12:45 PM CST
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Sam Smith speculates that
by 1958ChiTown on
Feb 21, 2008 12:40 PM CST
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with the 13th pick in the 2008 nba draft
by Conor on
Feb 21, 2008 12:50 PM CST
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oh please please trade Ben Wallace
by NBA Observer on
Feb 21, 2008 12:47 PM CST
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thats what im wondering
by tyrus4prez on
Feb 21, 2008 12:48 PM CST
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This is why?
Chad Ford: (1:47 PM ET ) To make that work financially the deal would have to look like this:
Ben Wallace, Chris Duhon and Joe Smith to Cleveland for Drew Gooden, Donyell Marshall, Ira Newble, Shannon Brown, Devin Brown and Cederic Simmons ... unless Ilgauskas is in this deal.
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 12:50 PM CST
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Ben and Du
Ben Wallace, Chris Duhon and Joe Smith to Cleveland for Drew Gooden, Donyell Marshall, Ira Newble, Shannon Brown, Devin Brown and Cederic Simmons ... unless Ilgauskas is in this deal.
by tyrus4prez on
Feb 21, 2008 12:50 PM CST
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Yes Please!!!
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Feb 21, 2008 12:52 PM CST
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This gem:
Chad Ford: (1:44 PM ET ) Sorry ... another GM who was reading the chat wanting more details on the Wallace deal ...
LOL at this guy.
Maybe it was Paxson calling Ford to ask what he should do.
by mruntouchable on
Feb 21, 2008 12:50 PM CST
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god
by JSlakov on
Feb 21, 2008 12:51 PM CST
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i have meetings all afternoon
by tyrus4prez on
Feb 21, 2008 12:52 PM CST
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Screw meetings!
by BNeL21 on
Feb 21, 2008 12:55 PM CST
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maybe in honor of Wallace being traded
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Feb 21, 2008 12:57 PM CST
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I betcha
Wallace is too pricey, Gordon's value is too low with his talk of big bucks in the $15M/season range, teams don't want to trade a few solid youngs to get a guy they won't resign.
Hinrich's a BYC and had a horrid start.
Noc is a BYC and thus his cost this year is too high (but he might be nice trade bait in the future, although I'm a noc fan).
Deng's value peaked last summer, he's dropped to reality and might even be a little on the low side due to his injuries.
Duhon is Duhon, an expiring contract and decent enough player but we aren't going to get anything valuable enough to replace him, so why trade him, plus it's not like teams are lining the phones asking about Duh.
Paxson would be stupid to trade Noah, Sef, T2 unless we could get a Marion, etc, which ain't happening.
I like the Cleveland trades for Wallace, but I'd be surprised if Larry Hughes's albatross contract and injury pronness wouldn't be involved.
Joe Smith makes the most sense to trade because of how well he's done in his minutes, but really he's a solid value, and hardly our problem (I know all the blah blah he steals minutes for T2 and JN) but no bother, without Joltin Joe, we'd really really be tough to watch this year.....
SO yeah I expect we'll do nothing, but it might be interesting to see what everyone else does.
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Feb 21, 2008 12:59 PM CST
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Hughes
Terry (Cleveland, OH): Any updates on deals concerning Cleveland?
Chad Ford: (2:03 PM ET ) I'm getting lots of phone calls now ... sorry for delays. One source says the hold up in a Chicago-Cavs deal is that Cleveland wants Chicago to take back Larry Hughes and Drew Gooden for Ben Wallace, Joe Smith and Duhon. I can't really see the Bulls doing that. Hughes has two years, $26 million left on his contract and where do the Bulls play him?
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Feb 21, 2008 1:07 PM CST
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I gotta say
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 12:53 PM CST
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more to add . .
Chad Ford: (1:50 PM ET ) Ummmm ....All I can say is that owner Dan Gilbert is a huge Pistons fan ... maybe he sees something we don't. Duhon would help them. And for the Bulls ... Gooden is OK ... and they clear some cap ... but this is essentially a lateral move as far as winning this season
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Feb 21, 2008 12:54 PM CST
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PLEASE SAY YES
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 12:56 PM CST
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DAMN
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Feb 21, 2008 12:57 PM CST
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Edge of my seat......
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Feb 21, 2008 12:56 PM CST
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Dammit!!!
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Feb 21, 2008 12:56 PM CST
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What an awesome trade that would be
by Big D on
Feb 21, 2008 1:00 PM CST
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that trade
by JSlakov on
Feb 21, 2008 1:04 PM CST
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It wouldn't be a downside
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Feb 21, 2008 1:08 PM CST
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And nothing is happening/nothing happened
Joe Smith and Ben Wallace do some things better than others. But what they do most is get in the way of the development of Noah and Tyrus Thomas (and Aaron Gray). Duhon similarly gets in the way of Thabo developing (though he's more of a 1 and Thabo's more of a 2, the Bulls' other guards are combo guards anyway).
It's clear all 3 of these Bulls would help Cleveland tremendously.
I suppose that what to do with Hughes is a question, but acquiring him theoretically makes Deng expendable. Not that he's equal to Deng, mind you, just that theoretically, Thabo and Hughes can each play the 2 or 3, with Noc backing them up.
The Bulls can then trade Deng for other value elsewhere in their current lineup or down the line.
But like I said, seems like nothing happened, so ownership/management is just gutless if this is true.
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Feb 21, 2008 2:30 PM CST
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WOW!
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Feb 21, 2008 1:07 PM CST
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I think I still take the deal
by NBA Observer on
Feb 21, 2008 1:09 PM CST
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I so would!
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:11 PM CST
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Wait
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Feb 21, 2008 1:13 PM CST
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He could be useful
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Feb 21, 2008 1:14 PM CST
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Though I do want to add
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Agreed
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Feb 21, 2008 1:18 PM CST
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i have always been a fan of hughes' game because
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Feb 21, 2008 1:25 PM CST
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it's the same amount of years
Wallace trade checklist:
- Are you getting back players with contracts of equal or lesser length than Ben Wallace?
- Are you getting back players not named Ben Wallace?
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Feb 21, 2008 1:16 PM CST
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ok
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Feb 21, 2008 1:12 PM CST
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Hughes is fine
Big Ben must go. We're not doing it without getting someone else's baggage.
by Jobu on
Feb 21, 2008 1:16 PM CST
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Maybe Paxson
by Jesse07 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:15 PM CST
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2:05
by Zac23 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:07 PM CST
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Cavs?
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Feb 21, 2008 1:14 PM CST
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Damn it
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Feb 21, 2008 1:14 PM CST
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less then one hour left.
by RogersPark Kris on
Feb 21, 2008 1:15 PM CST
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"Paxson for three.... YES! YES!...
Thanks for hearkening back to my namesake... those were good times.
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Feb 21, 2008 1:20 PM CST
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oh, Chad. Why do you tease?
Dub (Chicago): Any chance that Ben Gordon gets moved in the Cleveland/Chicago deal?
SportsNation Chad Ford: (2:16 PM ET ) I think there's a zero percent chance of that happening.
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Feb 21, 2008 1:19 PM CST
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No kidding
Are we really so close to the clock striking 12 on Big Ben???
by Jobu on
Feb 21, 2008 1:20 PM CST
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Wooh
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Feb 21, 2008 1:23 PM CST
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What can I say?
by Jobu on
Feb 21, 2008 1:25 PM CST
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LMAO. There is no way this trade happens.
Ford is just ginning up interest in his chat.
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Feb 21, 2008 1:20 PM CST
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Ford is just a pawn
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LOL. Probably.
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Crazy stuff
Chad Ford: (2:15 PM ET ) Not yet ... I'll update you. We have multiple confirmations about the Bulls-Cavs talking. The hang-up seems to be the Cavs insisting that Larry Hughes be in the deal. If that's dropped, I'm told Bulls would agree.
Dub (Chicago): Any chance that Ben Gordon gets moved in the Cleveland/Chicago deal?
Chad Ford: (2:16 PM ET ) I think there's a zero percent chance of that happening.
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:21 PM CST
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I posted BW and Duhon to CLE 16 days ago.
Only got 1 comment :(
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Feb 21, 2008 1:23 PM CST
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20 Schrute Bucks
by paxson43 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:28 PM CST
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Just imagine
You would think Noah would start and Thomas would be the first guy off the bench at the PF position
Oh man, I'm gettin excited . . . prolly for no reason
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:24 PM CST
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Wouldn't Tyrus be the starter at the 4?
by 1958ChiTown on
Feb 21, 2008 1:27 PM CST
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With Gray or go small with Noc at 4
by snley on
Feb 21, 2008 1:32 PM CST
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With a major personnel overhaul,
by eGirl on
Feb 21, 2008 1:34 PM CST
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SI
"More trade chatter
* I can confirm that the Cavaliers are indeed pursuing a big "mysterious'' trade Thursday, though it is unlikely to be consummated."
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/ian_thomsen/02/21/deadline.notes/index.html?eref=T1
by FPax on
Feb 21, 2008 1:26 PM CST
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I like your alias
There's still more that Paxson must do to lose the "F".
by NBA Observer on
Feb 21, 2008 1:34 PM CST
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crap swap
(not all crap is created equal, y'all know what I mean)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Feb 21, 2008 1:26 PM CST
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but aren't we already trading
by Jaina on
Feb 21, 2008 1:27 PM CST
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One at a time
Paxson's got to have some leverage here. Gilbert's hopefully freaking out knowing he's got to make Lebron happy. Best case scenario is Lebron loves playing with Hughes and so Gilbert can't include him.
by Jobu on
Feb 21, 2008 1:33 PM CST
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after watching noc last night
by Mike C on
Feb 21, 2008 1:38 PM CST
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Good thing
by piccolomair on
Feb 21, 2008 1:27 PM CST
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Why would the Bulls do the deal if it didn't
I'm curious.
by 1958ChiTown on
Feb 21, 2008 1:31 PM CST
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For that matter, why would Cleveland want to
by 1958ChiTown on
Feb 21, 2008 1:32 PM CST
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no more team votes on suspensions....
by bullshooter on
Feb 21, 2008 1:33 PM CST
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Do you think that the Bulls simply consider
by 1958ChiTown on
Feb 21, 2008 1:34 PM CST
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that would be the nice way to put it.
by bullshooter on
Feb 21, 2008 1:35 PM CST
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He's an obstacle to player development
They are Noah, Thomas, and Gray. We have to get Thomas as much time at the 4 as possible. This is the position he should play.
by NBA Observer on
Feb 21, 2008 1:42 PM CST
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maybe not cap relief now
Hughes makes slightly less, btw.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Feb 21, 2008 1:34 PM CST
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A little cap relief
- Hughes is slightly cheaper, but expires at the same time
- Hughes is not Ben Wallace
- One can at least imagine Hughes regaining some of his Wizards era form. His last several games, in fact, have been fairly strong.
by Sports2 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:37 PM CST
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Any chance that the Bulls would be interested in
by 1958ChiTown on
Feb 21, 2008 1:38 PM CST
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And to reiterate
by Jobu on
Feb 21, 2008 1:38 PM CST
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why is there a hang up???
by Conor on
Feb 21, 2008 1:31 PM CST
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yup
by Zac23 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:36 PM CST
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that was arenas...
by bullshooter on
Feb 21, 2008 1:40 PM CST
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Actually
I remember him and Gordon trading baskets
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:45 PM CST
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which one was kirk on
by bullshooter on
Feb 21, 2008 1:58 PM CST
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WOW
by piccolomair on
Feb 21, 2008 1:40 PM CST
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Predictable, too.
by wjb1492 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:45 PM CST
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Was it Kirk or Gordon?
I don't remember if Kirk was guarding Hughes or if he was guarding Arenas.
by NBA Observer on
Feb 21, 2008 1:43 PM CST
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Past tense
As a fan, I'd look at this trade only as a positive in that it frees up minutes for Tyrus, Joakim and Aaron. Any contributions from the other pieces would just be gravy.
by paxson43 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:44 PM CST
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I'm with you
- No more Wallace
- One less front court player creating more PT for the kids
- a bigger guard that maybe can show our guards a trick or two
- 50 games from Hughes is fine by me
by NBA Observer on
Feb 21, 2008 1:48 PM CST
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cynicism post
He then gives Boylan a 3-year extension.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Feb 21, 2008 1:32 PM CST
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If Boylan is hired as the permanent coach,
by 1958ChiTown on
Feb 21, 2008 1:33 PM CST
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Maybe
by CrashDavis on
Feb 21, 2008 1:36 PM CST
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i think...
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 1:37 PM CST
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I honestly wish I hadn't checked in
This entire thread is giving me false hope which is inevitably going to be dashed against the rocks of reality.
by 1958ChiTown on
Feb 21, 2008 1:39 PM CST
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prediction
bum bum bummmmmm
by BG07theDrink on
Feb 21, 2008 1:39 PM CST
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Ford's answer...
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 1:40 PM CST
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latest from chad
just pull the trigger paxson, im begging you
by Mike C on
Feb 21, 2008 1:40 PM CST
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Refresh!
by cranscape on
Feb 21, 2008 1:41 PM CST
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If this is a real offer from the Cavs, there
It's a very low risk deal from the perspective of the Bulls. They don't lose any of their core young players.
by 1958ChiTown on
Feb 21, 2008 1:43 PM CST
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Whats making it worse
by piccolomair on
Feb 21, 2008 1:43 PM CST
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that's why i am glad I only got back in
by bullshooter on
Feb 21, 2008 1:47 PM CST
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LOL
by wjb1492 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:49 PM CST
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The Cavs must be really shaky about crossing
by NBA Observer on
Feb 21, 2008 1:44 PM CST
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Why would the Cavs want Wallace and Du?
by 1958ChiTown on
Feb 21, 2008 1:46 PM CST
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with as bad as clevelands pg situation is
by Mike C on
Feb 21, 2008 1:48 PM CST
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With Duhon
Duhon comes off the books after this season anyway. It's likely just an acquisition in hopes the Cavs can win now rather than later.
by NBA Observer on
Feb 21, 2008 1:51 PM CST
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some hope?
Chad Ford: (2:44 PM ET ) I think so ... I was told Memphis turned it down.
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 1:45 PM CST
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Trade
February 21, 2008 - 2:45 pm
MyFox Houston -
Gerald Green is telling FOX 26 Sports he has been traded to his hometown Houston Rockets for guard Kirk Snyder and a second-round draft pick.
by FPax on
Feb 21, 2008 1:47 PM CST
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more proof of mchales idiocy
by Mike C on
Feb 21, 2008 1:49 PM CST
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Gerald Green is a gamble
Green was rated higher than Martell Webster, yet Webster went in the lottery and Green fell to the late teens. Webster has the better brain.
by NBA Observer on
Feb 21, 2008 1:54 PM CST
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They weren't even playing him!
by Big D on
Feb 21, 2008 1:55 PM CST
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Cavs Salaries
Just for the record, here's what the Cavs have to work with.
by Sports2 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:48 PM CST
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Nice
by BNeL21 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:51 PM CST
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Wallacepalooza
by piccolomair on
Feb 21, 2008 1:54 PM CST
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I have no idea
by piccolomair on
Feb 21, 2008 1:55 PM CST
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Thanks!
Let's hope I have to update it to show Ben Wallace switching teams!
by Sports2 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:58 PM CST
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No im not saying
by Bulls4Ever on
Feb 21, 2008 1:49 PM CST
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please remember
So there may be no news for a couple of hours past 2.
by KT on
Feb 21, 2008 1:50 PM CST
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There's a girl with self-control.
by eGirl on
Feb 21, 2008 1:52 PM CST
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They're tears of passion
by BNeL21 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:54 PM CST
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that pretty much confirms it
by bullshooter on
Feb 21, 2008 1:57 PM CST
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I have an inkling
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Feb 21, 2008 2:22 PM CST
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Chad's on the phone again...
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 1:51 PM CST
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ive got class in 2 mins
by Mike C on
Feb 21, 2008 1:52 PM CST
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That was a damn long phone call
by wjb1492 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:56 PM CST
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10 minutes left...
We're close, so close, but we just can't convert on a key possession.
Ben Gordon just fell down.
Five minutes until Noce commits the critical turnover.
Eight minutes until our opponent buries a three pointer that is the dagger.
by 1958ChiTown on
Feb 21, 2008 1:52 PM CST
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dont forget last nights addition
by Mike C on
Feb 21, 2008 1:53 PM CST
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How can you forget
by Jobu on
Feb 21, 2008 1:55 PM CST
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Reason to fear losing Wallace and Smith
by snley on
Feb 21, 2008 1:58 PM CST
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Don't worry.
(Or is that saggy benevolence?)
by wjb1492 on
Feb 21, 2008 2:01 PM CST
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Is it done?
by piccolomair on
Feb 21, 2008 1:59 PM CST
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Somewhere in the Berto Center...
The voice on the phone is a distant buzz. He's thinking back to the night he drafted Du, the hope, the promise, the wide eyed Dukie grin, the surprise when the second rounder became a starter, all of the laughs during practice, all of the hustle on needless dives and scrambles, the excessive sprinting, the games were he exuded toughness like a character from an SE Hinton novel, the low turnover rate, the toughness, the beautiful God damned toughness, manliness and grit like a short black Rambo...
by 1958ChiTown on
Feb 21, 2008 2:01 PM CST
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A guy I knew in the know
by Sports2 on
Feb 21, 2008 2:03 PM CST
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this must be what it was like for my wife...
anitclimatic.
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 2:01 PM CST
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doh!
LOL, can't leave me hanging!
by Sports2 on
Feb 21, 2008 2:01 PM CST
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Wallace sitting out practice
February 21, 2008
BY BRIAN HANLEY Staff Reporter
Seems like a long shot, but Ben Wallace is watching practice today and one rumor has the Bulls talking to the Cleveland Cavaliers trying to deal Wallace before the league's 2 p.m. deadline.
The Cavs also have reportedly been talking to Miami about Shawn Marion.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/basketball/bulls/806685,wallace022108.article
by FPax on
Feb 21, 2008 2:02 PM CST
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Funniest thing about that trade
by bullshooter on
Feb 21, 2008 2:02 PM CST
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Never thought
by majoyenrac on
Feb 21, 2008 2:23 PM CST
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We'll find out soon
Ric is reporting right now
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 2:02 PM CST
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Woah
Still too close to call
We can rid ourselves of the two most hated people on our team
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 2:04 PM CST
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Just Hughes?
by 1958ChiTown on
Feb 21, 2008 2:04 PM CST
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That's what I'm saying
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 2:06 PM CST
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Has to be something else there
by snley on
Feb 21, 2008 2:07 PM CST
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and bits and pieces
The likely players...
Ira Newble
Shannon Brown
by NBA Observer on
Feb 21, 2008 2:07 PM CST
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Wallace/Duhon for Hughes/Newble/S Brown
Is kosher via the trade machine
by Jobu on
Feb 21, 2008 2:10 PM CST
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I still want a commision
by Jesse07 on
Feb 21, 2008 2:12 PM CST
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anybody have a sopcast link to ESPN news?
by bullshooter on
Feb 21, 2008 2:06 PM CST
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Did it happen or not?
by 1958ChiTown on
Feb 21, 2008 2:07 PM CST
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ESPN1000
by KT on
Feb 21, 2008 2:09 PM CST
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Wally
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 2:12 PM CST
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link
And it's being reported the other way around, that they want Wallace first, THEN Wally.
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Feb 21, 2008 2:13 PM CST
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Bucher
no link yet
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 2:15 PM CST
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u mean
by piccolomair on
Feb 21, 2008 2:16 PM CST
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Hallelujah!!!!!!
by BNeL21 on
Feb 21, 2008 2:16 PM CST
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ESPN1000
No confirmation yet, they've got someone checking.
by KT on
Feb 21, 2008 2:16 PM CST
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i know that
by ScottieCartwright on
Feb 21, 2008 2:17 PM CST
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Funny/sad thing...
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Feb 21, 2008 2:15 PM CST
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i know it
by Conor on
Feb 21, 2008 2:16 PM CST
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It
PLEASE!!!!
by Bulls4Ever on
Feb 21, 2008 2:15 PM CST
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Tyrus Thomas just shit his pants in joy.
by tyger1147 on
Feb 21, 2008 2:17 PM CST
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OK
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 2:17 PM CST
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Didn't say
This might actually happen!
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 2:20 PM CST
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playesr
- Wallace
- Duhon
- Hughes
- Wally
- Newble
- Shannon Brown
- ???
- ???
- ???
I think Gooden has to be on this list if it's 10 players. The others should be Cedric Simmons, Dwayne Jones, and Devin Brown.
by NBA Observer on
Feb 21, 2008 2:22 PM CST
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they will regret waiving Veektor!!!
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Feb 21, 2008 2:23 PM CST
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lol!
by ScottieCartwright on
Feb 21, 2008 2:25 PM CST
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Delonte West
by mruntouchable on
Feb 21, 2008 2:30 PM CST
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Holy shit!!!
by BNeL21 on
Feb 21, 2008 2:20 PM CST
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hurry the
by leeac on
Feb 21, 2008 2:18 PM CST
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Tonight could be a night to party
by messwiththebull on
Feb 21, 2008 2:20 PM CST
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