Gasol post-mortem (a.k.a. Open Game Thread #46: Bulls at Sacramento Kings)
This resigned feeling I get over the Gasol non-acquisition is settling in like it did in the days after the Scola non-acquisition: the Bulls just didn't have what the other team wanted, or at least not at the right time.
The Bulls might have been able to match the offer by using retired forward P.J. Brown as part of a trade, along with expiring contracts like Chris Duhon and Viktor Khryapa.
Simply put, the Bulls aren't in position to take on Gasol because they already have an inflated payroll. Next season, they are committed to paying Ben Wallace $14.5 million, Kirk Hinrich $10 million and Nocioni around $7.5 million. Assuming they re-sign restricted free agents Deng and Ben Gordon to deals starting at $10 million, that makes $52 million committed to five players.
Add Gasol's $15.1 million salary, and the Bulls would be moving well beyond the current luxury-tax threshold of $67.9 million, unless they were able to unload some payroll somehow.
So, on the one hand you can see what Paxson's up against, and this non-deal can be explained away like it has been in not getting Bryant, or Scola, or anyone.
But it's also pretty damning that he can assemble a team this terrible, and simultaneously have a cap situation so inflexible.
But that's what happens when you talk about a luxury tax edict, yet sign Nocioni to a 5 year contract, and Joe Smith to a 2 year contract.
Or when you're reluctant to trade away young frontcourt talent like Thomas and Noah, yet can't find a way to get them on the court.
So right now we have a team that's supposedly gunning for the playoffs, yet can't get an upgrade.
And sure, tough to rag on Pax for a non-move, as we don't know the information. But we do know this team he has sucks, and has had 2 coaches now say they've quit. So as much as staying the course may be the best move, it's also tough seeing what he's so committed to.
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Well, the hope
by BenGo07 on Feb 2, 2008 6:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
so, 2 seasons down the drain
blech.
I wouldn't be surprised if Pax resigns before then anyway. He just doesn't seem to enjoy or be actively involved in GM-ing.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 2, 2008 6:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Playin the Youngins
What you do have to do to win with youngins is be willing to give them playing time, like Portland or Atlanta did when they were bad in the last couple years, so that they can learn the game. Otherwise they'll always be rookies.
A lineup of Noah, Deng, Thomas, Hinrich, and Gordon might still be able to be effective next year, although it'd be nice to change one or two of those parts perhaps. But that lineup isn't going to be effective next year if Noah and Thomas play 10 minutes a game this year.
by balta1701 on Feb 2, 2008 6:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yup, and like you says
I can't believe we have to look to Portland and Atlanta as examples. They were using the Bulls as examples. ugh.
But I'm still setting the bar higher than 'non-losing' season next year. Eastern Conference finals this year. And next. Or Pax is out. I don't see the need in giving him a grace period to undo his own mistakes.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 2, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Except it's not that easy...
I don't fault Pax too much for this season because it was impossible to predict that November. I'm glad he's not making a move just because of that horrible start. I will end up faulting him in another month, though, when Tyrus still isn't getting 15 mpg.
I guess I can just be patient for another year or two because a) Garnett's still damn good and b) the Bulls have three very young, very high-potential guys and c) the Bulls have been winning the past 3 seasons. Sorry, the future doesn't lie with the core of Hinrich, Gordon, Deng and Nocioni but with Deng, Thomas and Noah.
by tyger1147 on Feb 2, 2008 9:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On the mistakes thing...
by tyger1147 on Feb 2, 2008 9:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kiki
And I'm not buying this story that the Bulls didn't have what the grizzlies want. Kryhapa, Duhon and Brown could easy have made up for Kwame's salary. You can easily replace Critteron with Selfolosha. We have a pick this year, better than what the lakers will have.
All that leaves is a 2010 lottery pick? Well, we have one of those too! Wow, that took 5 minutes. And the Grizz got better picks and a better prospect from the Bulls. Don't be fooled
Paxson chose not to make this deal. It takes two to negotiate, who knows if the Grizz didn't propose something similar. The Bulls aren't committed to winning. And they haven't been in 10 years. Ridiculous.
by danger mouse on Feb 2, 2008 6:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
sure, Pax could have gotten Gasol
by bullshooter on Feb 2, 2008 7:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dangermouse didn't say either of those
Works for me.
But there's that pesky luxury tax, and once again that MEGA Nocioni contract has screwed us again :)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 2, 2008 7:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A part of McGraw's article
To me that says the Lakers are comitted to winning...and the Bulls aren't.
by alec on Feb 2, 2008 8:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OK Mariotti :-)
Perhaps I'm just hoping this is true instead of believing it, but if this was a 'missing piece' type move, the Bulls would go over the tax.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 2, 2008 8:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If we don't get a smart coach ...
Basically, though, we're doomed to not have a shot until BW comes off the books, and I don't see how this changes that.
This is one of the few games I can watch. I hope they win, and TT gets a double-double. :P
by Prevenge on Feb 2, 2008 7:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hope I
by sue369 on Feb 2, 2008 7:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully
by Beef Wennington on Feb 2, 2008 7:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If they don't have room,
by Freethefro on Feb 2, 2008 7:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Iur next coach
by eross226 on Feb 2, 2008 7:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
or coach K
(I'm kidding. No college coaches)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 2, 2008 7:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No pass for Pax
1. Saying they didn't have the right piece at the right time is a lame excuse.
First, the Bulls had all kinds of options to maintain flexibility this summer. The bottom line was Pax looked at his guys and thought he didn't need to do much. If he did, then why on earth would have have signed up Smith and Noc and passed on moves like dealing PJ Brown expiring deal at last year's deadline for Kurt Thomas who expires this year (although, unlike PJ, he appears actually capable of still playing).
Second, don't tell me a deal couldn't have been worked to turn up an expiring contract. Joe Smith has some value to a team looking to upgrade. Noc theoretically does, at least. If the Bulls were looking to make it happen, I don't think they were looking hard enough or in the right places.
by Sports2 on Feb 2, 2008 7:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
If Smith and/or Noc isn't traded by the deadline, we really need to tell Pax's family to quit using up the family plan minutes.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 2, 2008 7:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
At the verge of reaching a true state of Armchair GM self-parody though, I think given the couple weeks Pax appears to have had, I could have found a deal :)
I'm pretty sure any set of expiring deals we could get for Smith, plus Duhon or Khyrapa, would get us where we need to be salary-wise. Not to mention if we ended up throwing in an player like Thabo or Thomas
- Joe Smith for Jamaal Magloire?
- Shannon Brown and Ira Newble?
- Eduardo Najera?
- Some combination of guys from Golden State (Barnes, Pietrus, O'Bryant)?
- Kirk Snyder and Steve Francis?
- Smith and change might have gotten us Kwame for that matter.
- Pat Garrity and one of that useless combination of useless guards Orlando has (Reddick, Dooling?)
- Back to the Sixers (who didn't want him to leave) for Kevin Ollie and Shavlik Randolph or Giricek?
- San Antonio might be willing to move Brent Barry for a guy like Smith
- Seattle's lease on Kurt Thomas is almost up. Maybe they'd want to get a year of Smith's "veteran leadership"
- Brian Colangelo likes guys who can shoot. Would he be interested in turning Rasho into Smith?
by Sports2 on Feb 2, 2008 9:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is a big test for our 'coach'
Plus, he's noncommittal on Thabo holding HIS job when Duh gets back to half-speed.
Someone ask coach corpse what to do.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 2, 2008 7:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
if we ever trot out
by Freethefro on Feb 2, 2008 8:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't
by sue369 on Feb 2, 2008 8:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Duhon and Smith
by TMD on Feb 2, 2008 9:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So far the Kings feed leaves something to be
by wjb1492 on Feb 2, 2008 9:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad that
by TMD on Feb 2, 2008 9:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Only Reason To Watch is 3 for 3.....Noah
by BiNgO on Feb 2, 2008 9:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He is playing well
by TMD on Feb 2, 2008 9:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey! The game's on Antenna TV!
by Prevenge on Feb 2, 2008 9:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone noticed
by alec on Feb 2, 2008 9:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
viktor in for noc
by alec on Feb 2, 2008 9:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
drive cut off ,
by alec on Feb 2, 2008 9:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When was the last time the guys shot 75%
by wjb1492 on Feb 2, 2008 9:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We already have
by eross226 on Feb 2, 2008 9:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Joe Smooth
by Option27 on Feb 2, 2008 9:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not cool Gordon
by cranscape on Feb 2, 2008 9:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
TT may be headed
by TMD on Feb 2, 2008 9:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That second personal foul on TT
Good stretch for Tyrus, though.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 9:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If this team could just get rid of Wallace.
by tyger1147 on Feb 2, 2008 9:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Boy, do I wanto to see Tyrus
That being said, I am very encouraged by the playing time for Noah and TT, albeit in different lineups.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 9:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Gamecast says Thabo only 2 minutes,
by Freethefro on Feb 2, 2008 9:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He isn't playing well.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 10:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So what?
by marionette on Feb 2, 2008 10:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In case you guys didn't know ..
Thanks Wayne.
by gobulls1124 on Feb 2, 2008 10:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Too many &*^%*&^! turnovers.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 10:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kirk with lob attempt
by marionette on Feb 2, 2008 10:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Come on Bulls, finish a quarter
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 10:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Free throws and TOs
by wjb1492 on Feb 2, 2008 10:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Artest is a very tough
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 10:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Guh.
by cranscape on Feb 2, 2008 10:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tyrus should be on Artest in the
He did a nice time shutting him down.
Artest was feasting on Noah and Noc.
We can and should win this game.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 10:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Artest is a reaaly tough
by alec on Feb 2, 2008 10:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Brown
by bullshooter on Feb 2, 2008 10:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I have mixed feelings.
"They have to be consistent and work hard. They need to learn how to be pros. Doing well in practice doesn't mean you get more minutes in the game. (why the hell not?!?!) They probably never sat this much." (Tyrus friggin' redshirted)
Okay, well his specific player comments weren't so bad except the first one.
"What do you teach Aaron Gray?"
"You can't teach size. (um, yeah) Learn how to be more aggressive on defense w/o picking up fouls."
Noah
He's agressive. Teach him how to be a better offensive rebounder even though he's good at it already. Teach him moves since he's going to be quicker than most centers he plays.
Tyrus
Um, he was really good as a rookie so he's not getting as much playing time this year, obviously. So I need to teach him how to not be mad about that because it's really fucking stupid. Just pray for a sprained ankle and he finally might get into the starting lineup like he should be. (seriously, he said exactly that)
by tyger1147 on Feb 2, 2008 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel all better now
Ohhhhh BOYYYYY!!
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 10:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He said he's coaching them
True, That's what he said.
by alec on Feb 2, 2008 10:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
heh
Hopefully he meant "until the trade deadline"
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 3, 2008 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't they just have, like, 70 some points
by marionette on Feb 2, 2008 10:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Try 67 pts. in Minn....
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 10:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty good
by sue369 on Feb 2, 2008 10:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Let's hope
by TMD on Feb 2, 2008 10:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't everybody freak out
by bullshooter on Feb 2, 2008 10:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I am not sure
by TMD on Feb 2, 2008 10:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bleh
by Freethefro on Feb 2, 2008 10:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
woot!
by Freethefro on Feb 2, 2008 10:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Khryapa has a long and quick hands
by Azabullsfan on Feb 2, 2008 10:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ha!
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 10:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Noc gets the quick hook
by bullshooter on Feb 2, 2008 10:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
team plays better with viktor
by alec on Feb 2, 2008 10:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Noc gets the quick hook
by bullshooter on Feb 2, 2008 10:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much
by cranscape on Feb 2, 2008 10:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather
by cranscape on Feb 2, 2008 10:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is an important half of basketball, in my
The schedule this month is brutal. If they don't win tonight and tomorrow night, there is an appreciable chance we could go 4-9 in February.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 10:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
viktor's even playing
by alec on Feb 2, 2008 10:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
what do you mean by respectable?
by bullshooter on Feb 2, 2008 10:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 10:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Boylan:
um, I didn't think so. The guy can board a bit, but my 'Veektor is a better 4' theory falls apart when he actually has to guard power guys, like Artest.
I'm not sure Thabo would've done much better. The answer, as always, is more Tyrus.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 4, 2008 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He "handed" the ball
by cranscape on Feb 2, 2008 10:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The other guy was K-Mart
by Sports2 on Feb 2, 2008 10:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And now Gordon with a T
by cranscape on Feb 2, 2008 10:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
he's slowed down
by alec on Feb 2, 2008 10:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's funny
by Sports2 on Feb 2, 2008 10:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I never got when
by eross226 on Feb 2, 2008 10:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Martin never got his feet down
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 10:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
that looked like
by bullshooter on Feb 2, 2008 10:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Victor did not commit
by Option27 on Feb 2, 2008 10:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No kidding!
by cranscape on Feb 2, 2008 10:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tonight I have learned,
by wjb1492 on Feb 2, 2008 10:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I thought
by TMD on Feb 2, 2008 10:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they're a bit delusional
And Brad Miller certainly did not make a name for himself on the defensive end.
by wjb1492 on Feb 2, 2008 11:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He did get two blocks on Noah.
But this blog has too much complaining re: the refs on it. And I'm as guilty as anyone.
by marionette on Feb 2, 2008 11:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It sure would be nice
by bullshooter on Feb 2, 2008 10:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Gordon dribling for 18 seconds
by Azabullsfan on Feb 2, 2008 10:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Uhhh
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 10:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
would
Oh look, they just missed Tyrus get hit on the neck/face and gave us a no-call and then a T on Tyrus. See any kind of patter here?
by cranscape on Feb 2, 2008 10:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would really have NEITHER
Viktor isn't doing anything on offense and Artest is going by him at will...yeah he got a couple of bad calls, but so has the whole team
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gordon's "isolation" plays
by cranscape on Feb 2, 2008 10:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Gordon is doing his own thing
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 10:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How thefuck does Hawes not get called
Total shit.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 10:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
F......G Oficials
by Azabullsfan on Feb 2, 2008 10:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not a good day for the youngbloods
by Freethefro on Feb 2, 2008 10:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Boylan right there
by alec on Feb 2, 2008 10:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
How the F--- is that a travel on TT?!!
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 10:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not one to complain about calls
by Sports2 on Feb 2, 2008 10:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This might be fiiiiiiiiixed??????????
by marionette on Feb 2, 2008 10:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This sucks.
by cranscape on Feb 2, 2008 11:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Lets hope Bulls play good in fourth
by Azabullsfan on Feb 2, 2008 11:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Anmd we satrted 0=4:-(
by Azabullsfan on Feb 2, 2008 11:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We can win this.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And then reality sets in
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 11:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nope
by Freethefro on Feb 2, 2008 11:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
F-ING Duhon!
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 11:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
damn
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think he's really
by alec on Feb 2, 2008 11:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He was bitching
by TMD on Feb 2, 2008 11:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tyrus
(I am not saying that anyone else is doing smart things out there right now either, but Tyrus gets yanked sooner than others so it would it is in his best interest not to be throwing up shots like that)
by cranscape on Feb 2, 2008 11:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
by TMD on Feb 2, 2008 11:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And
by cranscape on Feb 2, 2008 11:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In that play
by TMD on Feb 2, 2008 11:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the hell?
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I am going to kill Red.
If it was Gray taking those shots, he'd be fine with it.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
except gray wouldn't be taking
by alec on Feb 2, 2008 11:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lighten up
by cranscape on Feb 2, 2008 11:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You might not like to hear it
by bullshooter on Feb 2, 2008 11:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No. He wasn't.
But the other shot was a bail out jumper along the baseline with time running out. Tyrus got the ball late in the clock and had to shoot it.
That's when Red made his ill-time and senilic comment about Tyrus.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he was saying
by bullshooter on Feb 2, 2008 11:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree that
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HA! BG with a blatant hook
by marionette on Feb 2, 2008 11:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Moore gone
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 11:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Gordon did a good job on
by Azabullsfan on Feb 2, 2008 11:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i'm SOOOO glad
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good lord, this game is the Bulls for the taking.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Rookie mistake
Ugh.
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 11:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering if Boylan would bring BW back
by bullshooter on Feb 2, 2008 11:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone want to imagine tonight...
by BoxingHideout on Feb 2, 2008 11:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And that's why BG should touch the ball
by bullshooter on Feb 2, 2008 11:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I have to give Noah credit.
Far better D than his initial stint.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
BG looking good.
But we need to finish this game and actually win.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BG looking good
Them California-style cheer leaders...
Hokey Schmokie!
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 11:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When Ben plays like this
by TMD on Feb 2, 2008 11:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
To say keep BW
by Azabullsfan on Feb 2, 2008 11:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he does just as much
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Bibby is playing for Bulls
by Azabullsfan on Feb 2, 2008 11:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I spoke too soon
by Azabullsfan on Feb 2, 2008 11:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BG giveth...and BG taketh away.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
kirk playing great d on kmart
by alec on Feb 2, 2008 11:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
BG up to his same old stuff
argh
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 11:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kmart just embarrassed BG.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And Noah needs to throw that down.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think
by cranscape on Feb 2, 2008 11:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Come on, guys.
by wjb1492 on Feb 2, 2008 11:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
keep him in
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He just missed open shot
by Azabullsfan on Feb 2, 2008 11:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not move Noah over
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 11:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
because it makes too much sense
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Makes more sense
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 11:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And don't forget
Put whoever you WANT on Artest...
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 11:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WTG Noc...
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 11:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
God damn it Noc.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nocioni is awful!!!
by Freethefro on Feb 2, 2008 11:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
My husband
by sue369 on Feb 3, 2008 12:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why leave Noc in playing like this?
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 11:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Fucking Hinrich and his breakaway
And what a stupid fucking foul by Noce!
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
come on!
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why did Nocioni foul him there?
by Big D on Feb 2, 2008 11:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well, it was a gritty foul.
by wjb1492 on Feb 2, 2008 11:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brick,Brick,Foul
by Beef Wennington on Feb 2, 2008 11:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Brad Miller
by Freethefro on Feb 2, 2008 11:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Here we go again
And right now, they haven't scored in the last minute and a half...
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 11:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Red Kerr
by MarketMaker on Feb 2, 2008 11:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
West Coast games are tough for Red
by Big D on Feb 2, 2008 11:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol @ emotional wreck
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There were at least 3 candies heard
by marionette on Feb 2, 2008 11:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ah ok
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
then it
by cranscape on Feb 2, 2008 11:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw him after the atlanta game
by bullshooter on Feb 2, 2008 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It'd be nice
by bullshooter on Feb 2, 2008 11:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Now Noah with a moronic foul.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Game Too Fast For Penguins To Keep Up.
by BiNgO on Feb 2, 2008 11:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yeah but
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on. One more stop.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
BG with another brick from the free throw line.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kings announcer
by Beef Wennington on Feb 2, 2008 11:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We can't score...when we need it most
by Azabullsfan on Feb 2, 2008 11:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yikes
by Big D on Feb 2, 2008 11:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And the Sonics have been winning lately...
by wjb1492 on Feb 2, 2008 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was actually planning on attending
At this point, I wouldn't even think about wasting my time, money or frustration.
Let alone parking...
How ugly can this season get, really?
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not "unbelievable".
by Azabullsfan on Feb 2, 2008 11:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely picture perfect
Ab-so-freakin-lut-ely beeee-uuu-teee-fulll...
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 11:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wow
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They were trying to get it to BG
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BG woulda just turned it over anyway
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 11:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One thing doesn't seem to change.
I don't know how many games I have seen in the last two years where the Bulls are close in the final two minutes, but can't score key baskets.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
thus, the ever-occurring
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True
by Beef Wennington on Feb 2, 2008 11:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they get whooped tonight
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 11:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bulls can lose to the worst team in NBA
What a dissapointment.
by Azabullsfan on Feb 2, 2008 11:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sigh
by wjb1492 on Feb 2, 2008 11:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Muahahah! Losing Is So Hilarious Now.
by BiNgO on Feb 2, 2008 11:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I suppose I should take solace in the fact that
But it isn't much comfort.
The scatalogical tour of the NBA's sewers continues, with the Bulls starring as the unidentifiable, bobbing mass.
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
maybe a full strength
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hold out hope that Luol's return
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 2, 2008 11:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at the box score...
by MarketMaker on Feb 2, 2008 11:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
the calls or lack thereof
by bullshooter on Feb 2, 2008 11:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ric Bucher
by Option27 on Feb 2, 2008 11:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
you know better Option
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There was no link
Buches said The Spurs have inquired about TT.
I know they wouldn't give up Manu but maybe for the right package, they would?
by Option27 on Feb 2, 2008 11:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thabo
Come on Boylan...at least ACT like you know what you're doing...he disappoints me more each game
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 2, 2008 11:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Come on Boylan
Boylan is even more of an idiot and doesn't even have an EGO to help balance his BS...
From there, the math is rather basic.
by Bluelou on Feb 2, 2008 11:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Where to start..
not enough touches for BG at the end of the game..
listening to the sacramento feed made me want to puke when they were saying what miller must have been saying to noah and how he schooled him etc. and how they kept calling noah the rookie. ugh.
by Jaina on Feb 2, 2008 11:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did you have the TV or radio feed?
by wjb1492 on Feb 3, 2008 12:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TV
and they actually agreed with that charge called on viktor. i may be a homer but i try to be objective with my calls. that wasn't the right one.
by Jaina on Feb 3, 2008 12:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They lost
by sue369 on Feb 3, 2008 12:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sue
I, on the other hand now wants to see this team lose as much as possible just to show Pax what kind of team this really is and maybe get a high draft pick that entices a team to trade with us now that everyone has low opinions on our players
by Option27 on Feb 3, 2008 12:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's really sad
by sue369 on Feb 3, 2008 12:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
More likely
by Bluelou on Feb 3, 2008 12:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
good effort tonight overall, but
As posted above, it could be a rough road trip, not to mention a rough month.
the Bulls got a nice payback from the refs after that last Sac game in Chicago when Wallace scored one point and it was the game-winning point, then Miller got fouled on the final shot but the Bulls got away with a no-call.
Tyrus rough 4th quarter big minutes was disappointing as well.
Seattle is a must-win, or else we could be looking at an 0-6 stretch until we play the hapless Heat in the last game before the All Star Break.
by Orlando Woolridge on Feb 3, 2008 12:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
let's face it...
the league has figured out that wallace is over the hill, and that the bulls have no confidence in any of their young bigs, so its like playing 5 on 3. that's right, 5 on 3. it actually hurts me to see wallace out on the floor now. there's a physical pain in my gut when i see wallace srutting around the floor, knowing that he's just a shell of what he once was. it's time to play thomas and noah. if the bulls are going down in flames, at least let them learn in the process.
by leeac on Feb 3, 2008 1:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Was gonna
by eross226 on Feb 3, 2008 2:04 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Memphis' perception of Bulls offer
We didn't feel like we had a trade that was going to give us quality for quality or someone that would change the direction of the team that much. We had conversations with Chicago which were non-satisfactory. They didn't want to take on the luxury-tax situation and Los Angeles was. In this league, if you're in a big-market area you can afford to do those things. We negotiated as hard as we could for quality players and (Chicago) refused to give up anybody in their core group. What they offered us were guys who play on the second and third team, so we turned them down.
by chgobr on Feb 3, 2008 8:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
More sad news from Heisley
That would have taken Brown's expiring contract off the table; the Grizzlies decided they had to act.
"Otherwise we'd be like Chicago is today," Heisley said, "and gotten nothing done."
by chgobr on Feb 3, 2008 8:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now we know
by sue369 on Feb 3, 2008 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sue - good point
by chgobr on Feb 3, 2008 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what's really interesting
by bullshooter on Feb 3, 2008 11:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bynum's injury hurt us and got the Lakers involved
by chgobr on Feb 3, 2008 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Excuse my language
by Jaina on Feb 3, 2008 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mariotti's ears are burning
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 3, 2008 11:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
"When Chicago broke up the Bulls, I was fuming for three days," he said. "I get it. I understand. And the Bulls still aren't back."
"They didn't want to take on the luxury-tax situation and Los Angeles was. In this league, if you're in a big-market area you can afford to do those things."
-I still think they could have jinned up an expiring contract or two for Noc or Smith, but this quote makes me wish Heisley owned the Bulls.
by Sports2 on Feb 3, 2008 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like sour grapes to me
by bullshooter on Feb 3, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cheer up!
I can see the Bulls drafting around 9th again.
I'm so used to the Bulls losing this year that I've become apathetic and expecting a fourth/third quarter breakdown.
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 3, 2008 10:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Im not upset about
by eross226 on Feb 3, 2008 2:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
me three
by tyger1147 on Feb 3, 2008 11:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Same here.
by sue369 on Feb 4, 2008 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On the bright side
by alec on Feb 4, 2008 10:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what the hell?
Now I find out we missed out on a chance to trade Wallace AND get Gasol?
Go UCLA. That's all I've got to say.
by Freethefro on Feb 3, 2008 3:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Luxury Tax
by CookDing on Feb 4, 2008 10:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
plenty gooooood
Reporting live from Bellevue, WA, Reggie.
by reggie00 on Feb 4, 2008 5:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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