Sam Smith is once again my man
And a man of the people. Most BlogABull people, anyway:
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.
Forget experience.
Tyrus today!
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What we seem to have forgotten is the reason we were so high on this Bulls team. Perhaps we were just high? Nah.
It's not because they had a star or a low-post presence or great overall talent. It was because they played hard all the time, they would defend and they could bring waves of young, long-limbed players into the game to defend, disrupt and frazzle opponents.
Those guys were Thomas, Thabo Sefolosha and Joakim Noah, primarily. They all were supposed to be in the rotation.
The Bulls were to be the ultimate better-than-the-sum-of-its-parts team. They still could be.
No, the Bulls don't scare the Celtics or the Pistons, but they've regained some spirit and wins. That had to be the short-term goal. But with plenty of days off this week and then a road trip, it's time to see what the kids can do.
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I saw this
by tyrus4prez on Jan 8, 2008 8:33 AM CST 0 recs
The only way young players can learn,
All it's going to take is a mini winning streak to get our confidence back up to where it needs to be. We've given away too many games late to the point where it's wearing on the team. Our next five games are all winnable, with the only real tough game coming against Orlando. Yes, the final four are on the road, but road wins are what can help boost a teams confidence more than anything else. After these five games, we have six of eight at home, where we can get ourselves right back into the mix.
by BigScott03 on Jan 8, 2008 9:00 AM CST 0 recs
Meh
by Sports2 on
Jan 8, 2008 9:34 AM CST
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Matchups determine minutes?
Start the 2006-07 season and it was clear that Thabo and Tyrus could contribute, but it would be dictated based on matchups, injuries to starters, and the early gameflow that may put a start in foul trouble. Thabo and Tyrus would both enter games where it was deemed their style of play would best help the team. This season that all seemed to disappear. And with the arrival of Noah, another player that played lots of minutes in college for a big time program going as deep as you can go into the CBB postseason, it seemed like he would enter games in the same way that Thabo and Tyrus entered games last season.
It was clear to me, in the 2nd half of the 06-07 season the minutes for Thabo and Tyrus were crucial to victories, resting our starters, and extending the roster to prepare for a deep playoff push. That all came together in a momentus sweep of the NBA champs despite falling in the final regular season game creating the most difficult path to the EC Finals.
Smith says Boylan is playing the vets to establish loyalty. This seems to me a communication method with Ben Wallace to get him and Boylan on the same page and know they can trust each other to execute where we know they can execute. Eventually the vets will need some breaks and Thabo, Tyrus, Noah, and Gray are going to be the guys that will make this happen.
by NBA Observer on
Jan 8, 2008 12:42 PM CST
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With Skiles gone
Or maybe he's reading Matt.
by KT on Jan 8, 2008 9:03 AM CST 0 recs
Sam was drunk when he wrote that
by snley on Jan 8, 2008 9:19 AM CST 0 recs
Hey Sam!
No shit, Sherlock.
by RogersPark Kris on Jan 8, 2008 9:28 AM CST 0 recs
I like Sam Smith...
by SlickRick76 on
Jan 8, 2008 10:12 AM CST
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I have to 2nd that.
Don't get me wrong; I love to rip on professional sports writers, and this being a blogging community, I'd guess there are a few of us who probably take pride in ripping down anything "establishment".
But from his columns and my limited interactions with him over email, Sam seems like a genuinely nice guy. He also seems to have that old-time charm. Not like Paul Newman. Like Peter Falk.
by bullhockey on
Jan 8, 2008 1:01 PM CST
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I like Sam, too
by bullshooter on
Jan 8, 2008 1:17 PM CST
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I have a real
by sue369 on Jan 8, 2008 10:12 AM CST 0 recs
You can't laugh at yourself???
by SlickRick76 on
Jan 8, 2008 10:13 AM CST
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But I'm
by sue369 on
Jan 8, 2008 10:17 AM CST
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c'mon, admit it, Sue--
by alec on
Jan 8, 2008 10:25 AM CST
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It didn't
by sue369 on
Jan 8, 2008 10:45 AM CST
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You do realize
I'd make 'em against Illinois, too, if there was a big Illini fan here.
Hey, when the Badgers are bad, people make gratuitous shots at Wisconsin, too. It's Big Ten rivalry on the board, besides Bulls love. (Or frustation depending on the day of the week).
Go Badgers!
by KT on
Jan 8, 2008 10:49 AM CST
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I have a question...
by SlickRick76 on
Jan 8, 2008 10:57 AM CST
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Sue and I
Iowa has no pro sports, so Iowans pick whomever they want (Minnesota doesn't have any pro sports either).
Half my relatives live in Chicago, and I've spent a lot of time there growing up, hence my confused identity.
by KT on
Jan 8, 2008 11:00 AM CST
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Minnesota doesn't?
by SlickRick76 on
Jan 8, 2008 11:03 AM CST
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Yes, it was a joke
Just a little regional humor. I'm sure Iowans tell Wisconsin jokes, too.
by KT on
Jan 8, 2008 11:06 AM CST
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how about...
The middle...because no matter what direction you head, you're leaving.
Oh, and an Illinois person...I just don't say much.
by Lt.Dan on
Jan 8, 2008 2:14 PM CST
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also
by KT on
Jan 8, 2008 11:08 AM CST
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The Vikings,... the Vikings...
by bullhockey on
Jan 8, 2008 1:03 PM CST
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I have no
Doesn't Minnesota have the Timberwolves and the Vikings?
by sue369 on
Jan 8, 2008 11:07 AM CST
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OK the
by sue369 on
Jan 8, 2008 11:09 AM CST
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Blue Line doesn't go to Lincoln Park
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Jan 8, 2008 11:14 AM CST
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not so slick
by tyrus4prez on
Jan 8, 2008 11:30 AM CST
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Calm down a little bit...
by SlickRick76 on
Jan 8, 2008 3:51 PM CST
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I was channeling
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Jan 8, 2008 4:01 PM CST
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i like bucky
by hscs on
Jan 8, 2008 11:34 AM CST
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Never been to Gumby's myself
If you want good food items with "Bucky" in the name, try Bucky Badger Ice Cream, a University Ag school product.
by KT on
Jan 8, 2008 12:13 PM CST
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paisan's is pretty good
by hscs on
Jan 8, 2008 12:19 PM CST
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don't forget the...
by Lt.Dan on
Jan 8, 2008 2:17 PM CST
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I laugh at Sam's stuff all the time
"I think Boylan is a solid guy. He asks me about my golf sweaters, which I consider the height of sophistication."
That man needs a blog god damnit.
(It's also possible that I have an affinity for weird old men, since I was raised by one)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Jan 8, 2008 10:52 AM CST
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I really wish
Get with it Chicago Media!
by KT on
Jan 8, 2008 11:01 AM CST
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I assume you're saying this
by alec on
Jan 8, 2008 11:30 AM CST
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Big game tonight I'll be tuned into
(Matt, I hope you don't mind my little shout out.)
by alec on Jan 8, 2008 11:08 AM CST 0 recs
The once proud Bulls franchise....
Folks, the Bulls are the anti-Spurs. Ben Wallace for $60 million? He makes almost as much as Duncan! They draft the undisciplined Thomas over the rock-solid Aldridge? Re-sign the sub-mediocre Hinrich but let Gordon and Deng walk (they inevitably will). And the Wallace singing. Everything starts and ends with the Wallace singing. Paying this pouting chemistry-killer that much for 4 points, 8 rebounds, and 1 block... undescribable.
Look at Jason Maxiel, look at Glen Davis,these undersized power forwards outproduce Wallace on defense yet also make impact contributions on offense, all for 1/10th the salary.
Simply incredible... nothing the Bulls have done over the last 10 years is defensible. It all defies common sense. The franchise must rebuild. Get rid of these "character" guys who can't play a lick of ball and start over. There is no other way. Paxson, not Skiles is the master of this disaster. Until he is canned the Bulls are stuck in the mud feeding the egos of these "character" scrubs.
by Lateralus11 on Jan 8, 2008 1:19 PM CST 0 recs
thank you
by hscs on
Jan 8, 2008 1:22 PM CST
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Rock Solid Aldridge??
Where was this at the beginning on the season or yet on the verge of their 50th win last year. Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney
by tyrus4prez on
Jan 8, 2008 1:25 PM CST
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Haha
by NittanyBull on
Jan 8, 2008 4:36 PM CST
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Actually, that'll be my sig line now
by NittanyBull on
Jan 8, 2008 4:37 PM CST
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While I agree that the Ben Wallace deal
In 02', the Bulls roster included Jalen Rose ( the only player to have over 40 mpg), Donyell Marshall, Jamal Crawford, Marcus Fizer, Jay Williams, the twin toddlers (Eddie Curry, Tyson Chandler), and let's not forget Dalibor Bagoric (even though, try as might to').
Since becoming GM, Pax' has drafted the entire starting roster (outside of Ben Wallace and Joe Smith) and win Executive of the Year.
Not to mention the win total increase...
2006-07 49 33 .598
2005-06 41 41 .500
2004-05 47 35 .573
2003-04 23 59 .280
2002-03 30 52 .366
If the core three (Deng, Gordon, Hinirch)did not have such a poor start, this team would have at least been above 500.
I think Pax' has done a great job in a relatively short timespan.
by RogersPark Kris on
Jan 8, 2008 1:32 PM CST
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This is just Matt's bot
by bullshooter on
Jan 8, 2008 1:36 PM CST
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Maybe Sam Smith can only antagonize
I don't know about the rest of you, but I got a huge laugh out of his ass-making out of Scottie Pippen, who is otherwise a time-tested Sam Smith favorite.
Because, apparently, Pippen doesn't do a good enough job of making an ass out of himself.
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-29-17/Monday-Bullets.html
It starts by Sam publishing the earnest column, where he presents the Scottie quote of "Why couldn't I?" regarding coaching the Bulls.
Answer: for starters, because you insult everyone in the organization. Sam quotes Scottie denigrating the hand-picked choices of the GM and former teammate who gave him a cushy transition into retirement, calling Tyrus a brainless bimbo of an NBA player, calling Hinrich and Gordon midgets, calling Nocioni as distracting as Rasheed Wallace, and pronouncing Ben Wallace someone who doesn't know the game.
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-071230smithbox,1,2317046.story
Next comes a follow-up call to Sam, apparently laced with some choice language, in which Pip tells Sam that Krause couldn't have made him look worse. So says Sam in (yes, you guessed it) a follow-up column.
Wow, that's a lot of mileage out of one of your go-to guys, there, Sam, and it looks like there's burned bridges all around. Well, at least you made up with Tyrus Thomas.
by bullhockey on Jan 8, 2008 1:26 PM CST 0 recs
at least?
by bullshooter on
Jan 8, 2008 1:37 PM CST
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I still think the reason the record got so bad
Remember, everyone thought this team was going to be GOOD--not developmental. We wouldn't even trade our core wonders for Kobe Freakin' Bryant because they were so good.
Boylan probably agreed to coach if he could play to win.
by hhi on Jan 8, 2008 3:23 PM CST 0 recs
I don't think Skiles was forced to do anything.
by alec on
Jan 8, 2008 3:29 PM CST
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Sam Smith rumbled
I didn't think Skiles was playing the kids early in the season because he had to or wanted to. I think he was playing them because the starters/vets were playing so poorly.
by NBA Observer on
Jan 8, 2008 4:15 PM CST
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boylan probably agreed to coach
by bullshooter on
Jan 8, 2008 3:44 PM CST
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our core
by tyrus4prez on
Jan 8, 2008 4:00 PM CST
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and
by tyrus4prez on
Jan 8, 2008 4:01 PM CST
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Tyrus Thomas's 2nd Year improvement
- Improvements: Ty is averaging 1 point more per game and 1 more rebound per game, getting about 3 more minutes of playing time. This shows that he's making plays when he's on the court. His assists have nearly doubled (.6 to 1.1) this season, which shows his offensive court awareness HAS improved. His turnovers have gone down, and assist to turnover ratio jumped from 0.4 to 1.1. His FT% has improved 4%.
- Regressions: Ty is shooting nearly 5% worse from the field and getting the line at a less frequent rate. I think this has to do with his "settling" for mid range jumpers rather than taking it to the whole and getting fouled. Ty rarely shot that 17 footer when he's a rookie. Ty's blocks have also gone down, albeit minimally. (1.1 - 0.9).
- General notes: Its clear that Thomas is starting to see the whole court as evidenced by his improvement in assists. He has put himself in better position to rebound the ball, and has cut back (minimally) on his fouls. His turnovers have decreased with increased playing time, which is a solid sign. His decrease in blocks and fg% is slightly alarming. The fg% i think shows that he is trying to do too much when he is out there instead of taking what comes to him. The block reduction seems to show his timing is slightly off right now.
- Comparison to "THE BODY" If given 33 minutes of P.T. TT would average around 12 points, 10 rebounds 1.8 blocks, 2.2 assists, and 1.5 steals. He's only 21 and those numbers will improve. THE BODY, already averaging 33 mpg, currently averages 4.5 points, 8.9 rebounds, 1.8 blocks, 2 assists, and 1.5 steals. He is old, and those numbers will decrease.
by davebino on Jan 8, 2008 4:10 PM CST 0 recs
What CAN Tyrus do?
Can he guard Dwight Howard?
Can he guard Kevin Garnett?
Of these three, he's probably most suited for guarding Garnett. Okafor and Howard are bruisers that bang away at your chest until you flinch. Unless Tyrus adopted the "Andy Varejao school of falling over", there is no way he can guard Okafor or Howard.
There are few occasions when Tyrus will block shots from the player he is guarding. Most of his blocks come off the help defense and swift defensive rotation.
Watch him tonight. Pay close attention to his offense. Watch him changing ends. Because if there is one team in the NBA where a so called lazy Tyrus Thomas can look like the Road Runner it's against the Knicks.
by NBA Observer on
Jan 8, 2008 4:21 PM CST
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who cares if he can guard Okafor?
One day he'll handle LeBron James and take him out of a playoff series. um...that's my plan anyway.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Jan 8, 2008 4:28 PM CST
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It's true, Tyrus Thomas is not a true center..
by davebino on
Jan 8, 2008 4:30 PM CST
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Ben Wallace has limited Howard
I'm a little confused about the "Ben Wallace doesn't like to play center" line of thinking. How is he not a center? I guess that "I'm not a center" comes from Wallace, but maybe I don't know enough about the bigs and their defensive style to know who is the center out there.
Basically, when you argue that Thomas should get more minutes(which I agree) if they're going to come from Ben Wallace then someone will have to move over and guard the opponent that Wallace is guarding. In many matchups around the NBA, I don't think Tyrus can perform this task.
by NBA Observer on
Jan 8, 2008 4:35 PM CST
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again, I don't think stopping Okafor
I agree that Wallace does have a rare skill on this team, and that's being able to guard most centers one-on-one. But he also does a lot of 'roaming' as a defender, and Tyrus can do the same (hopefully keep his fouls at a Wallace-like rate).
But yes, as a defender on his man, Wallace is better than Thomas. Thomas is better at everything else, and to me it outweighs it in most matchups. I'm not really worried about the upcoming Bulls-Bobcats 7-game series.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Jan 8, 2008 4:43 PM CST
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Dwight Howard?
Dwight Howard is here to stay. He's getting better. But his primary weakness is his hands, around the basketball, trying to get close to the basket for a dunk. He doesn't have Shaq's, in his prime, footwork and as such he bruises right into to get the space or get to the rim. This opens him up to turnovers which a player like Wallace can force by himself or from the help defense getting finger tips on the ball.
Magic fans performed the analysis. The longer Howard has the basketball the greater the tendency for him to turn it over. The Magic are great when they run and Howard's touches are short, sweet, and followed by dunks. In all other cases the Magic are an average team.
Matt: Do you think you would care about all the other reasons not to play Ben Wallace if he was scheduled to make 9, 8.5 and 8 mil over the next three seasons?
by NBA Observer on
Jan 8, 2008 4:53 PM CST
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I don't think it's that important to argue it
And if the big concern is getting guys to match up with Dwight Howard, the Bulls can get in line.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Jan 8, 2008 4:58 PM CST
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Look at the numbers
by davebino on
Jan 8, 2008 4:46 PM CST
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The majority of blocks in general
by Scotter on
Jan 8, 2008 4:44 PM CST
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False
When Mark Eaton was blocking shots, when Hakeen Olajuwon was blocking shots, when Bill Russell was blocking shots, these men were predominantly blocking the shots of the players they were guarding.
Most, if not close to all, of Tyrus' blocks will come during the scrap that follows a missed shot with Bulls opponents in the paint corralling the basketball.
by NBA Observer on
Jan 8, 2008 5:06 PM CST
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Good grief
by Scotter on
Jan 8, 2008 6:20 PM CST
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I think you mentioned 3 of the best shotblockers
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