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Open Game Thread #33: Bulls vs. New York Knicks

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[Thanks to joemoses for tonight's game thread. -Matt]

Its hard to believe we lost to this team in November.  To see how ###'d up this team is, you have to listen to this song.

The Knicks are 1-13 on the road and have lost 6 straight away from home.  

Watch out for David Lee who had double-doubles in five out his last seven games.  However, for reasons only Isiah knows, he chose to play him only 15 minutes against the Rockets the last time out.  Also Nate Robinson has been averaging over 17 ppg the last eight games.

Deng is still listed as day to day.  He didn't practice on Monday and had an MRI on Friday confirming that he has tendonitis.

I would love to see Sefo get some time guarding Crawford or Richardson, even a few minutes giving Robinson some length. Also, lets use Gray's bulk on Curry for a few turns.  I fear this is one of those games that Wallace will wander and let Curry eat him up underneath.

A very good night for a win!!

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Nice preview, Joe

Anyone know the story with the Curry/Randolph pairing?  I know 2-3 weeks ago, Zeke resolved to keep them separated (only 1 on the floor at all times), but then I think he vacillated on that and had them both starting again.

If Deng can't play, I imagine Noc starts at the 3 against this line-up.

by Bayern Munich on Jan 8, 2008 10:17 AM CST   0 recs

If Noch
isn't still sick. If he is the young guns will be seeing some action early.
Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 8, 2008 10:19 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Dress Nichols
The Knicks drafted him.  When he asked about playing for a roster spot on the Knicks Isiah told him they wanted to send him to Europe.  Nichols was shocked because other teams were interested in drafting him to play this season.  Isiah told him he could try and earn a roster spot, but Isiah knew all along he would keep Fred Jones.

If there is one player in the league that would love to dress and play against Isiah it is Demetris Nichols.

by NBA Observer on Jan 8, 2008 5:55 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Nichols
He was brought up from the D-League while Curry was sent back.  Just in the past day or two.  But "who?" is likely the correct reaction.  

by cranscape on Jan 8, 2008 7:01 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I knew he was but still who?
I actually thought that they let go of Thomas Gardner for Drew.  What happend to Gardner?

by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 8, 2008 7:04 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

It shouldn't be too tough of a matchup
The key to beating the Knicks is just showing up on gameday!  Shit, a lineup of me, sue369, Bayern Munich, joemoses, and my deceased grandpa could take on the Knicks, and probably beat them.

In all seriousness, we need to limit their offensive rebounds (they are 2nd in the League to us), force turnovers, and attack the lane, considering how weak they are in the middle.  They have no shot blocking presence, which can amount to easy layups, or getting their "bigs" in foul trouble, and allowing us to score points from the foul line, which is something we have lacked doing this season, seeing how we are towards the bottom in makes and attempts from the free throw line.

by BigScott03 on Jan 8, 2008 10:33 AM CST   0 recs

These are things we wish for...
a sore Achilles, but not torn; a little flu, but not pneumonia; a tight back, but not a slipped disk....  Basically, the infirmaties of old age and over use.  How much is enough to get the young guys a legitimate look-see?

by alec on Jan 8, 2008 10:37 AM CST   0 recs

"I fear this is one of those games . . .
that Wallace will wander and let Curry eat him up underneath."

Hopefully not literally.

by Big D on Jan 8, 2008 5:25 PM CST   0 recs

That wouldn't have been too bad
Not a bad idea, that'd get Wallace off the salary cap in a year.

by Sports2 on Jan 8, 2008 10:18 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

The key to the game
is to run the heck out of the knicks. Randolph and Curry are out of shape, so I'd run at them every time they were on the floor.  Tire out those legs!

by KT on Jan 8, 2008 5:55 PM CST   0 recs

Scott Skiles' best advice
It applies to Curry and Z-Bo.

Jump!

by NBA Observer on Jan 8, 2008 5:56 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

the floor might crack
if they did it the at the same time.

by KT on Jan 8, 2008 6:06 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Curry can, Zach can't
But Zach actually rebounds okay, it'sthe defense and shot selection that are killers.  

by Scotter on Jan 8, 2008 6:07 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Watching Z-Bo
It's hard to believe this guy pulls in 12 boards a night.  Sometimes he get embarrassed by small player out rebounding him.  If he was little more aggressive he could pull in nearly 15 boards a night.

by NBA Observer on Jan 8, 2008 6:16 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Duhon-Hinrich-Nocioni-Smith-Gray
Ben Wallace singing.
Hinrich mega-deal singing.
Nocioni unncesessary singing.

Moves like that will keep this team in the cellar as far as talent level goes. The lineup they have out there makes me cringe. It is one of the 3 least talented in the NBA.

Gordon has to play PG and the teams needs a 6'6" swingman by his side. This pack of midgets does not get the deal done. They need a legitimate 6'11" center who can score and make layups, not the 6'7" circus act called Ben Wallace.

Noah is a complete joke. He will never amount to anything. The talent level has hit rock bottom. Bozo Paxson is responsible 100%. He's a fugging idiot no other way to describe it. Aaron Gray playing more than 10 minutes= LOL. Bulls are the biggest joke of the league not named the Knicks.

by Lateralus11 on Jan 8, 2008 6:02 PM CST   0 recs

What are you Scottie Pip or Sam Smith?
Gordan can't play the point, maybe years from now if he gets 2,3 years practice he could  be mediocre playing the point maybe 3-4 dimes a night with 3-4 to's a night, plus points. Well the 6'6' swingman that was supposed to play point is Swiss but hasn't developed yet.  Maybe we will scrap that idea and put thabo at 3 like matt said.  Ben Wallace no comment...Noah is the truth he is just a rookie and hasn't been getting cosistant min.  Plus this summer he can hit the gym and bulk up a lil.   Aaron Gray is a good pick up in the 2nd round, if he does nothing else but hit free throws.

by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 8, 2008 7:01 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

What are they singing?
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 8, 2008 7:31 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Tyrus Thomas will be riding the pine
The new coach refuses to shake things up. The team is out of contention, what exactly is he holding on to?

Wallace must be bought out. He is a cancer and minutes vaccum. Take any NBDL center- they'll produce much more than Wallace in those minutes.

This Hinrich-Duhon monster... Scary thing. If I'm the GM I ship their asses out immediately, I don't care about return value. Get them the hell away from this team.

Gray must be given more minutes. If he doesn't suck he could be a backup in the future. If he sucks, then its too bad. Cut him.

Undersized effort guys are to be avoided at all cost. Nocioni must be put on the trade block with aggressive searching for offers. Gordon has to go if he can't play point guard. He's too short for a starting SG.

Deng is the only legitimate starter left. The rest must be shipped out and the team must be blown up. This rat-pack of midgets, scrubs, and effort-character guys is an embarrasment. Bring in talent, talent, and talent.

by Lateralus11 on Jan 8, 2008 6:11 PM CST   0 recs

He did wait almost 9 whole minutes
for someone to rise to the first post.  Patience like that comes hard to people stirring stuff up.
"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 8, 2008 6:48 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Hmm game #33
I'm gonna stick with Finnish Scottie Pippen though.

by NBA Observer on Jan 8, 2008 7:22 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Out of contention, in the east?
How u gonna bash Aaron then say play em more? What?

by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 8, 2008 7:02 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Can we bring back banning a poster after a loss?
Please Matt, maybe you don't even need to wait for a loss!

by snley on Jan 8, 2008 7:23 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I swear Kendall Gill is gonna make me puke
he said he's changing Gray's nickname to "big sexy" if he plays well tonight....

That's enough for me NOT to want him to play well...

ugh...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 8, 2008 7:35 PM CST   0 recs

Noc has the flu?
I got just the prescription:
A large dose of Tyrus Thomas...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 8, 2008 7:42 PM CST   0 recs

24 out of 25
The Bull's starting lineup has a lot to be desired.  I looked at the early box score and the lineup is just gross.  Plus, Duhon just missed another shot.  

by Jesse07 on Jan 8, 2008 7:51 PM CST   0 recs

Noc is off
Shots are coming up short and looks a step slow.  Is a green at the gills Noc better than all the other options we could put in?  Really?

Our offense is veeery clunky without Deng or Gordon in.  Pretty painful so far.  They got no "spark" player out there and we are playing like it.

by cranscape on Jan 8, 2008 7:53 PM CST   0 recs

what is it...
about noc that would qualify him as green at the gills?  and why do folks find it so grotesquely mind-numbing that he would be a better option on offense than MOST of the starting unit?

by leeac on Jan 8, 2008 7:58 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

just the fact he is sick tonight and looking it
Most of the starting unit do not have any better options on the bench.  When Hinrich misses shots we'd have to put in Duhon...who misses shots.  At least if we put in one of Noc's alternates you might actually get some benefits.

by cranscape on Jan 8, 2008 8:04 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

my bad...
...i thought it was just another pot shot at noc.  gotta give it up to him for his effort, even though he's probably just infected the rest of the team with his flu over the last few hours.  then he'll be traded for sure for gasol...

by leeac on Jan 8, 2008 8:12 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

No worries.
I doubt a little germ would keep Noc off the court, but I'd rather he get healthy for future games with Deng injured rather than get himself really sick tonight against a team like NY.

by cranscape on Jan 8, 2008 8:21 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I think that is referring to Noc being sick
As in, why is Noc with the flu a better option than a healthy Tyrus.

I feel for Noc, though - I've been sick for the past week, and I can't imagine trying to play basketball while feeling gross.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 8, 2008 8:07 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, I was referring to the creeping crud
Everyone has it and I'd be all for having Noc play if his fever was helping his game, but it don't seem like that.  And with Tyrus coming off a good game keeping Noc in there while sick doesn't seem like a good idea.

And how about this!  Noah, Gray, and Thomas on the floor at the same time and they are looking good.  Nothing like a New York team to give the young guys confidence.  All three are looking good.  Why wear out the older guys who are sick/hurt etc when you can give the young ones some burn.

by cranscape on Jan 8, 2008 8:15 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

These refs are being paid by the knicks
pretty suspicious calls and non-calls....
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 8, 2008 8:00 PM CST   0 recs

what was the Tech for?
dealing with child issues...
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 8, 2008 8:00 PM CST   0 recs

exactly.
BG getting a technical....huh?
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 8, 2008 8:02 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I love me some
Noah/Thomas action!

by Option27 on Jan 8, 2008 8:05 PM CST   0 recs

ruh - roh...
Gray is playing decent so far...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 8, 2008 8:11 PM CST   0 recs

nice..
 the 3 young dudes playing together...cool

by bullsfaninbigapple on Jan 8, 2008 8:11 PM CST   0 recs

playing together
and rebounding and SCORING!
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 8, 2008 8:13 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Thank You Boylan!
Finally trusting the kids

by Option27 on Jan 8, 2008 8:13 PM CST   0 recs

Man, this lineup looks really nice
Hinrich/Gordon/Thomas/Noah/Gray
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez

by NittanyBull on Jan 8, 2008 8:13 PM CST   0 recs

yup
Noah is a perfect replacement for Wallace, at least at the FT line...
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 8, 2008 8:13 PM CST   0 recs

Noah plays HARD - regardless whether he scores
and playing hard is something that seems to have eluded Wallace this year.

So I say start NOAH, and let Wallace come off the bench and see how he responds to THAT strategy...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 8, 2008 8:18 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I believe this is what Paxson was thinking
By drafting the kids.

They are keeping so many balls alive and giving the Bulls great 2nd chance scoring opportunities.

by Option27 on Jan 8, 2008 8:17 PM CST   0 recs

This game is perfect chance for Boylan
to play young guys without any "risks" for his "carieer".
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Jan 8, 2008 8:18 PM CST   0 recs

MAN - it's nice to see these kids play like this!
And we've all only been screaming for them since....oh...I dunno...
the BEGINNING OF THE SEASON....
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 8, 2008 8:21 PM CST   0 recs

I was not very exicited about this game
But seeing Kids playing together?Wow!That's another story!
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Jan 8, 2008 8:24 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Boylan seems to be making some smart decisions...
...we look totally different with the kids playing

by bullsfaninbigapple on Jan 8, 2008 8:21 PM CST   0 recs

I come back after getting a snack
and I see Wallace out there again and the Knicks have scored 5 pts. and the Bulls none...

Pattern?

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 8, 2008 8:30 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Bring back the kids!
The energy was there!

by Option27 on Jan 8, 2008 8:28 PM CST   0 recs

But then again...
our starters is back :-(
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Jan 8, 2008 8:28 PM CST   0 recs

The old guys back in
and they're playing like...old guys.

by alec on Jan 8, 2008 8:28 PM CST   0 recs

these guys are playing like garbage
blah blah blah.  If only Boylan would put Thabo in, that'd solve all the problems.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 8, 2008 8:29 PM CST   0 recs

Boylan
Take Duhon out!
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Jan 8, 2008 8:30 PM CST   0 recs

Hey...THABO!
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 8, 2008 8:33 PM CST   0 recs

Sefo is in.
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Jan 8, 2008 8:34 PM CST   0 recs

And the Knicks take the lead...
Put the kids back in...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 8, 2008 8:36 PM CST   0 recs

Crawford's move
was down right nasty

by Option27 on Jan 8, 2008 8:36 PM CST   0 recs

Can someone please explain
how the knicks have had 15 FT's to the Bulls 5?
F'-in refs....
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 8, 2008 8:43 PM CST   0 recs

I liked the
lineup of Hinrich, Gordon, Gray, Thomas and Noah. They played well together. Hope we see more of it in the second half.
Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 8, 2008 8:45 PM CST   0 recs

Noc starts with an airball
PLEASE put the kids back in....
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 8, 2008 8:55 PM CST   0 recs

Please put Noc in isolation.
"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 8, 2008 8:59 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Tyrus SCHOOLED Jeffries on that basket
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 8, 2008 9:06 PM CST   0 recs

And he couldn't repeat that move against Marbery?
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Jan 8, 2008 9:09 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Oh man....NOT more Noc....
What's Boylan thinking?
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 8, 2008 9:13 PM CST   0 recs

Say it with me
Tha-bo Tha-bo Tha-bo
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 8, 2008 9:19 PM CST   0 recs

Oh my god
Eddy Curry's wife is as fat as he is
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez

by NittanyBull on Jan 8, 2008 9:22 PM CST   0 recs

what do you expect
she's had 4 kids I think.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 8, 2008 9:24 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Didn't know that
Now I feel like an asshole
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez

by NittanyBull on Jan 8, 2008 9:24 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

don't feel bad
she was probably fat to begin with.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 8, 2008 9:26 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Don't look now
but "Matt" Duhon is making an appearance.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 8, 2008 9:23 PM CST   0 recs

The Heat need to win some games
we don't want them to get too high of a draft pick.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 8, 2008 9:27 PM CST   0 recs

Anyone think Riley will take an out
this season again?
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 8, 2008 9:31 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

what do you call
what he's doing now?  Nice pass by BG btw.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 8, 2008 9:33 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

NO WAY! Is he out right now?
I haven't been paying attention to the Heat...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 8, 2008 9:35 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Not officially
but it's not like they are playing hard.  DWade is even doing a BG impersonation and coming off of the bench now.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 8, 2008 9:36 PM CST