Open Game Thread #44: Bulls vs. Minnesota Timberwolves
[Thanks to wjb1942 for today's game preview. -Matt]
Everyone likes good news, right? Well, part of the good news for the Bulls is that tonight's game is the front half of a home-and-home against the NBA team with the worst record , the Minnesota Timberwolves. Just 8 and 35 on the season, 2 and 21 on the road, the Wolves have been struggling in the post-KG rebuilding era, as most expected. The other good news of late for the Bulls is that, in the absence of Luol Deng and Ben Gordon, Kirk Hinrich seems to have found some offense, averaging 26.7 points on 53.3% shooting over the past 3 games.
Now the bad news. For starters, the Bulls aren't very healthy right now. Lu will sit out again with the bad Achilles, and BG reportedly will be a game time decision but didn't sound too hopeful of playing tonight with that wrist sprain. Then there's C-Du's knee bruise: can't play with it, can't play without it. After giving it a go for a couple of games, Du has decided he came back too soon. Normally that wouldn't concern me much, but with the other injuries? How does A-Drain match up against the Wolves, anyway? And Joe Smith has knee issues of his own, although he is likely to play. [reportedly Joe Smith is out as well. -Matt]
Chicago is currently tied for 10th place in the East, but just a game out of the last playoff spot due to the equal mediocrity of the teams surrounding them in the standings. While the Bulls haven't exactly been lighting it up this season, they're coming off a particularly ugly four game stretch, with losses to the Grizzlies, Bobcats and Suns by an average margin of -12.7, with the lone win over the Indiana Pacers. In those four games, the Bulls shot 38.8% as a team (only 35.8% if you exclude the suddenly hot Kirk from that), while allowing their opponents to shoot 45.1%. While it's tempting to blame the offensive struggles on the injuries to Lu and BG, the Bulls have been offensively-challenged all year. In comparison, the Wolves have been hot over their last four, earning wins over Golden State, Phoenix and New Jersey, with only a 1-point loss to Boston at Boston to mar the streak.
In other words, this has got to be the worst possible time to face the Wolves. Accuscore has the Bulls with the win, based on their forecast of the Bulls shooting 45% tonight. Hey, it happened in the Indiana game, so stop your laughing. Seriously, this should be a much tougher game than the Wolves' overall record would indicate, and we're all much too aware of the Bulls' incredible ability to lose games this year. I'll be watching it and cheering the team on anyway, so here's to hoping for a big win in the last home game before a long road trip.
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Joe Smith will be out tonight
by Big D on Jan 29, 2008 4:21 PM CST 0 recs
ugh
I can picture Boylan begging Duhon to suit up and 'give him confidence'.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Jan 29, 2008 4:26 PM CST
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That'll teach me to do the game thread early
by wjb1492 on
Jan 29, 2008 4:42 PM CST
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TT should see a lot of action
by bullshooter on Jan 29, 2008 4:34 PM CST 0 recs
BG B in?
However, more so i thought if gordon was there the bulls would have won. I mean the suns arent known for thier defense, and especially in that third when hinrich was out, having someone who scores, not simply chucks (im looking at you noch) would have been nice. Ive always thought that when hinrich and gordon play good, this team cant be beat, and it has yet to happen this year. If gordon is here tonight, im hoping hinrich doesnt go into pass(ive) mode tonight and remembers his plus 30 games of late. Heres a nice article that i found online, i say this alot but...good read: http://bulls.realgm.com/articles/24/20080128/with_hinrich_back_on_track_bulls_can_do_some_damage/
by piccolomair on Jan 29, 2008 4:42 PM CST 0 recs
I always have a problem
by bullshooter on
Jan 29, 2008 5:00 PM CST
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we can wish
by NBA Observer on
Jan 29, 2008 5:18 PM CST
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i'm thinking
by tyrus4prez on Jan 29, 2008 4:42 PM CST 0 recs
they'll never be 'out'
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Jan 29, 2008 4:46 PM CST
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i dont think
by tyrus4prez on
Jan 29, 2008 4:56 PM CST
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If we lose to an eight win T-Wolves
Seriously.
I don't care if the entire team was playing with one leg. I don't care if our line-up consisted of Gray, Griffin, Nichols, Viktor, and Jameson. I don't care if we were coached by Tim Floyd's chubby little cankle. I don't care if Marcus Fizer came out of retirement and brought a gimpy J-Will on a mini-moped with him. There is no excuse for losing to this Minnesota club.
If, at any pont during tonight's game, we are losing by more than five, I will boo.
by 1958ChiTown on Jan 29, 2008 4:57 PM CST 0 recs
Miinie's been good lately
by marionette on
Jan 29, 2008 5:10 PM CST
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Even the horribulls beat the Lakers
by NBA Observer on
Jan 29, 2008 5:19 PM CST
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Sorry, that still doesn't convince me that
by 1958ChiTown on
Jan 29, 2008 5:38 PM CST
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For a good team a loss would be a fluke...
by cranscape on
Jan 29, 2008 7:00 PM CST
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GOOD NEWS!
Wait...
by cubbybear on Jan 29, 2008 5:03 PM CST 0 recs
Noah starts tonight
by sue369 on Jan 29, 2008 6:00 PM CST 0 recs
You have to be kidding!?
by Option27 on
Jan 29, 2008 6:07 PM CST
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They just
by sue369 on
Jan 29, 2008 6:08 PM CST
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Starting five
Smith is playing?
by Jesse07 on
Jan 29, 2008 6:09 PM CST
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are you sure
by bullshooter on
Jan 29, 2008 6:09 PM CST
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We finally
by No bull on
Jan 29, 2008 6:11 PM CST
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Probably the latter, with Smith and
They'll move Wallace to the four and Noce to the three.
by 1958ChiTown on
Jan 29, 2008 6:15 PM CST
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They just said that
by sue369 on
Jan 29, 2008 6:17 PM CST
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Ha
by Option27 on
Jan 29, 2008 6:18 PM CST
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The other problem is Thabo's abd strain
by chgobr on
Jan 29, 2008 6:33 PM CST
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I know and it
by sue369 on
Jan 29, 2008 6:39 PM CST
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I heard it too.
by cranscape on
Jan 29, 2008 7:03 PM CST
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Probably
by sue369 on
Jan 29, 2008 7:09 PM CST
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If Wallace were indeed benched
And I think McHale should get some slack for taking what looks like was the second best offer for KG. He turned down the best offer when he could have obtained the exact same package plus the #5 pick, missing his opportunity to pair his youngsters with a Noah. Al Jefferson is better than the Bulls impressive offer of Deng, Chandler, and Thomas, if that even was offered. I know you couldn't pry Al Jeff from Minnesota if you offered McHale that same package today. Just imagine what that team would be today had McHale not dealt Brandon Roy for Randy Foye.
Tonight is still a must-win game. A playoff appearance is not wasted if the young guys are able to develop into signficant contributors by season's end. That will be a different team than we see today and that we've been accustomed to seeing, and coupled with our existing core, or whatever assets they may bring in a trade, the Bulls could be a newly dangerous team come playoff time, if they can just get in.
by messwiththebull on Jan 29, 2008 6:46 PM CST 0 recs
You know what, tonight IS A MUST-WIN
by NittanyBull on
Jan 29, 2008 6:50 PM CST
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Must win
by messwiththebull on
Jan 29, 2008 7:30 PM CST
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Did Boylan just say that Noah is starting?
by RogersPark Kris on Jan 29, 2008 7:12 PM CST 0 recs
Gordon not out for
by 1958ChiTown on Jan 29, 2008 7:21 PM CST 0 recs
Wow, Miami really sucks
by NittanyBull on Jan 29, 2008 7:25 PM CST 0 recs
and being manhandled by*
by NittanyBull on
Jan 29, 2008 7:26 PM CST
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Deja vu all over again
Coming into tonight, the T-wolves have just TWO road wins this year.
Last time I heard that stat from a team playing the Bulls in the UC, it was the Knicks....and we all know how well THAT turned out.
So that, coupled with the Wolves winning 3 of their last 4 -
Not to mention the Bulls being without almost their entire "core"...
The word yikes comes to mind.
by Bluelou on Jan 29, 2008 7:29 PM CST 0 recs
I don't see Duhon either
by 1958ChiTown on Jan 29, 2008 7:30 PM CST 0 recs
noah...
finally, a bulls game i'd like to go out of my way to see... unfortunately i'm in atlanta this week so i'm relegated to watching the hawks/suns game... yippee.
i hope noah comes thru with 18/10, and thomas gets some solid minutes for a double double.
kirk's recent production is interesting in that it shows that he can be a scoring guard when needed, which brings into question gordon's importance to this team next year as a cap gobbling undersized defensive and dribbling liability at shooting guard (CGUDADLASG for short). in an ideal world, we could unload ben and ben for a player like kidd this year. kidd's making about $20m for 1.5 more years, but his production and leadership could get this team kickstarted again. this is not saying the nets would even want ben and ben... they already have a rebounding center who can't shoot free throws, and a shooting guard who doesn't give a damn.
go bulls.
by leeac on Jan 29, 2008 7:34 PM CST 0 recs
I don't really see the point in getting Kidd
by BoxingHideout on
Jan 29, 2008 7:37 PM CST
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du and bg both in street clothes
by 1958ChiTown on Jan 29, 2008 7:40 PM CST 0 recs
Kidd would accelerate the growth of our bigs.
by messwiththebull on Jan 29, 2008 7:42 PM CST 0 recs
Only two guys on the floor
or so it seems...
by Bluelou on Jan 29, 2008 7:48 PM CST 0 recs
And Noc shooting
by Azabullsfan on
Jan 29, 2008 7:50 PM CST
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Noah and Thabo
They're proving it too
by Option27 on Jan 29, 2008 7:50 PM CST 0 recs
On one condition
That was ugly.
by Azabullsfan on
Jan 29, 2008 7:54 PM CST
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have...
by leeac on
Jan 29, 2008 7:56 PM CST
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Oh man
Neither one should even think about jumpshots.
by Azabullsfan on
Jan 29, 2008 7:59 PM CST
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And our starting forward misses
by Azabullsfan on
Jan 29, 2008 8:02 PM CST
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Noc got a "hot hand" today?
by Azabullsfan on Jan 29, 2008 7:55 PM CST 0 recs
A-drain instead of TT
by Azabullsfan on Jan 29, 2008 8:00 PM CST 0 recs
have i mentioned
by tyrus4prez on Jan 29, 2008 8:00 PM CST 0 recs
Do you?
by Azabullsfan on
Jan 29, 2008 8:04 PM CST
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God, Wallace sucks
by NittanyBull on Jan 29, 2008 8:02 PM CST 0 recs
If the Bulld could
by Option27 on Jan 29, 2008 8:05 PM CST 0 recs
Griffs' biggest achivement so far:
He is very calming.
by Azabullsfan on Jan 29, 2008 8:11 PM CST 0 recs
In defense of AG
The ref blew the call because he wasn't watching AG clear his feet.
In my notes I wrote if it would be good for players to talk to the refs about clearing their feet. Sometimes the clears are so quick it is very easy for the refs to miss it.
by NBA Observer on
Jan 30, 2008 8:24 AM CST
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Tyrus
by tyrus4prez on Jan 29, 2008 8:12 PM CST 0 recs
To anyone who thinks Stacey King
"I think Gerald Green could become a superstar in this league"
Ummm, Ok Stacey . . .
The kid could be good one day and maybe even a starter, but superstar? LOL
by Option27 on Jan 29, 2008 8:13 PM CST 0 recs
Superstars
It was reported that he wanted to be traded. He needs to be traded or Telfair needs to be traded. Green can't get minutes with Jaric playing SG and Telfair starting at PG.
by NBA Observer on
Jan 30, 2008 8:26 AM CST
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Minnesota deserves these useless piles of crap
by RogersPark Kris on
Jan 30, 2008 11:12 AM CST
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Chandler + Deng + Thomas/Aldridge/Roy
by tyger1147 on
Jan 30, 2008 12:10 PM CST
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did anyone
by tyrus4prez on Jan 29, 2008 8:15 PM CST 0 recs
Man, our shooting sucks.
by wjb1492 on Jan 29, 2008 8:16 PM CST 0 recs
so bad
by Bluelou on
Jan 29, 2008 8:21 PM CST
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noc vs. deng - 3pt shot
noc:
2004 - 1.2/ 29%
2005 - 2.9/ 39%
2006 - 3.9/ 38%
2007 - 4.9/ 35%
deng:
2004 - 1.9/ 26%
2005 - 1.0/ 26%
2006 - 0.0/ 14%
2007 - 0.3/ 40%
deng is always commended for his good fg%, but he's a small forward that rarely steps outside the 3pt line. in the past 3 years, you would think that he would have expanded his range to make himself more valuable by being able to spread the defenses. it's actually the opposite in that it seems he has regressed. he is an above average slasher and jump shooter, but until he can step out beyong the 3pt line, his true value as a small forward (or even a slow shooting guard matt) will never be realized on a teamwide level.
am i saying that noc is better than deng? no, they are 2 different players that offer different skill sets at the 3. but i hardly think noc is deserving of the perpetual thrashing he tends to receive here. and if the deng supporters feel that noc is expendable, how about hearing an analysis on why deng can't shoot a three?
i would still like to see deng put on 25 lbs and become a back to the basket/ slashing power forward....


