Open Game Thread #40: Bulls at Memphis Grizzlies

Without Duhon

Lets hope we see more Thabo and no Adrian Griffin. Unfortunately, with only 4 guards dressing and Deng still nursing the achilles tendonitis(is he out?) I don't think there's any way to keep Griffin off the floor.

by NBA Observer on Jan 21, 2008 1:20 PM CST reply actions

Deng & Duhon

Luol Deng is questionable for the Bulls on Monday, as he recovers from a sore left Achilles' tendon.

Guard Chris Duhon is considered very doubtful, after bruising his knee during Saturday's game.

by lwinston300 on Jan 21, 2008 1:24 PM CST up reply actions

I'd say he's more than doubtful...

He didn't maket he trip. He was sent home...that wussy.

by Lt.Dan on Jan 21, 2008 1:29 PM CST up reply actions

Can't get much more doubtful

than not even making the trip.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 21, 2008 1:31 PM CST up reply actions

I think the team voted...

sorry, had to.

by Lt.Dan on Jan 21, 2008 1:37 PM CST up reply actions

I'm not sure that one will ever get old!

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 21, 2008 1:44 PM CST up reply actions

Interesting preview on the Memphis blog

They do a position match-up analysis, and have the advantage to the Griz at every position except center. (But then, their comparison is Ben Wallace vs. Darko Milicic...)

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 21, 2008 1:29 PM CST reply actions

the Pistons would have been a very scary team

if they had drafted Carmelo or Wade. Let's praise Darko for saving us from that.

by KT on Jan 21, 2008 1:30 PM CST up reply actions

In Defense of Tayshaun and Rip

I think the Pistons were recognizing their need for a big man.

They should have taken Bosh over Darko. I think within the Piston's style of play the difference between Bosh and McDyess is a lot bigger than the difference between Tayshaun and Carmelo.

by lilzaky on Jan 21, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah,

and we bitch about Pax's bad picks. I thought the Pistons were done last year until the Weber pick up and they're playing better
this year without him than I would have guessed. But either way, when the wheels start to come off that thing up there finally Detroit fans will always be able to look at that draft and wonder about the years of domination that could've been.

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 3:37 PM CST up reply actions

So the Center position is basically

a battle of disappointing former Pistons big men?

"Duhon, don't make that garbage-time jumper... Save it for the next game!"

by bullhockey on Jan 21, 2008 1:36 PM CST up reply actions

What I want to know

is how they say that Darko was the big free agent name last season... Rashard Lewis, anyone??

by Jaina on Jan 21, 2008 2:33 PM CST up reply actions

Rotation expectation.

During his first couple weeks on the job, pretty much every time he was asked about the young guy rotation, Boylan's answer was that there were not enough minutes to play them all simultaneously, and therefore the plan was to give each one a regular shot on a rotating basis. If anyone caught fire he would be able to earn extra minutes.

From what I can see, Boylan has stuck by that plan to the letter. The injuries to Deng and Kirk somewhat altered the plan, but still, the players who have made a better showing with the minutes they were given have started to get regular rotation minutes, rather than game-by-game rotation minutes.

Noah, when given the minutes showed he warranted more. Same thing with Thabo. TT's play just hasn't warranted more minutes. Boylan is still sticking with his small minutes plan with TT. One of these games, TT will look like he's breaking out, and when he does, my guess is that almost immediately his minutes will increase.

by alec on Jan 21, 2008 1:43 PM CST reply actions

i think...

TT has minute envy, small minutes and all.

by Lt.Dan on Jan 21, 2008 1:45 PM CST reply actions

All I

want is a win tonight but what I want doesn't really matter. I wonder how Kirk's back is and if he'll be able to start. Maybe they should just let Lu sit until he is healed completely.

Yes, the game is on in Iowa.

by sue369 on Jan 21, 2008 2:12 PM CST reply actions

the veteran, win now Bulls

can't afford to pass a chance on a championship season by letting Deng sit.

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Jan 21, 2008 2:14 PM CST up reply actions

Best hope for extended rest is the all-star break

Let him rest after the 2/9 game @Utah. He sits for 2/12 home against New Orleans and 2/14 home against Miami. The Bulls won't play again until 2/20 at New Jersey. 11 days of rest is as good as it can get mid-season.

We can handle the NO and Miami small forwards with Deng in street clothes.

by NBA Observer on Jan 21, 2008 2:17 PM CST up reply actions

If he's in

pain he sits now. Trying to play when he can't run does not help this team.

Yes, the game is on in Iowa.

by sue369 on Jan 21, 2008 2:41 PM CST up reply actions

Not to mention possibility of further injury

I know I've read that Lu feels like the problems with the achilles are related to trying to play through the back injury earlier. Who knows what starts to bother him next if he's trying to compensate for the achilles.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 21, 2008 2:48 PM CST up reply actions

maybe nothing else...

maybe the achilles just snaps. Better to sit, I think.

by alec on Jan 21, 2008 2:50 PM CST up reply actions

I vote sit.

by Lt.Dan on Jan 21, 2008 3:25 PM CST up reply actions

Exactly.

Yes, the game is on in Iowa.

by sue369 on Jan 21, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions

I have a similar injury

I had a severe ankle sprain that didn't heal properly. I need surgery in the long run, but for now it's just off and on swelling and pain.

When it's bad I just limp around. When it is good, it responds to the RICE method and Bio-Freeze gel and the swelling subsides.

Has Luol been wearing a boot to isolate the foot after games? My podiatrist said I could wear a protective booty that isolates movement of your foot to limit the stretching of my achilles tendon.

by NBA Observer on Jan 21, 2008 2:55 PM CST up reply actions

My guess is

he is getting the best medical treatment there is in Chicago. I trust Luol and the trainers to know if he can play or not.

Yes, the game is on in Iowa.

by sue369 on Jan 21, 2008 3:18 PM CST up reply actions

First game I've looked forward to in awhile....

Thabo and Noah using their length to disrupt the Pistons in the 4th quarter was really fun to watch. Better teams have been able to do what they want against the Bulls in clutch situations recently, but the Bulls' defense didn't allow that Saturday, and there's reason to believe there's a long term solution. If those guys can stay on the court, all of a sudden,for the first time in YEARS, the Bulls aren't a short team trying to battle mismatches all over the court (bigger guards posting up our short guards, centers shooting over the top of Wallace, etc).

On a Thabo note, I've been looking at what Ronnie Brewer has been doing, thinking "what if" (many, including ESPN's draft synopsis thought Brewer was the better pick there), but over the past 5 games, Thabo's gotten the minutes that Brewer has been getting, and he's posted equal numbers during that time. That's great to see, we need that guy on the court.

by MMP on Jan 21, 2008 2:26 PM CST reply actions

The Thabo/Carney switch was

looking ike a wash of wash-outs there for a while, but no more. Thabo has taken a commanding step forward for Pax on that one.

by alec on Jan 21, 2008 2:48 PM CST up reply actions

Rodney Carney can't get into games

He's fallen out of the Sixers rotation.

by NBA Observer on Jan 21, 2008 2:56 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah, it's surprising that it took an injury...

to get Thabo on the court, considering how bad that pick was making Paxson look. I was wondering if they were going to even bother picking up his next option year, since he's looked so bad in his limited time.

Hopefully, once everyone is healthy, they keep getting Thabo at least 25 minutes. I'm not a Duhon hater, it's just a matter of team chemistry.

Love the rebounding Thabo provides as well!

by MMP on Jan 21, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions

I love his

quick hands. He is constantly going after the ball.

Yes, the game is on in Iowa.

by sue369 on Jan 21, 2008 3:20 PM CST up reply actions

Thabo's D

He gets steals on a lot of weird angles, too. He's seems to be a very creative defender on the dribble.

by lilzaky on Jan 21, 2008 3:24 PM CST up reply actions

In the GSW game

I was screaming as loud as I could to get Boylan to put Thabo on Baron Davis. Thabo's hands force the point guard to adjust his dribble, his position, and the route he chooses to penetrate. Baron Davis needed this extra stage of thinking to disrupt his though pattern. With Duhon guarding him it was obvious that Baron was already thinking about the next level and not even focusing on what he had to do to get past Duhon.

by NBA Observer on Jan 21, 2008 3:42 PM CST up reply actions

OT

Over here in Los Angeles, people on the radio are actually loving the idea of a Wallace to the Lakers trade for Brown and Radmanovic.

Looks like we're not so crazy after all.

by Option27 on Jan 21, 2008 3:36 PM CST reply actions

Hard to

imagine why LA would want to do that though. Wallace is hardly a rent-a-player and in two months they get back maybe the best young center in the league not named Dwight Howard. LA fans are letting their better judgment be clouded by the fact that they hate Kwame so much. Not unlike what has been going on here for the last couple of weeks.

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 3:41 PM CST up reply actions

Laker fans remember last season

They're trying to over compensate so there isn't another 2nd half fall in the playoff standings. They want to stay in the top 4 in the West.

The BW contract clearly throws off the plans to sign Bynum to an extension and stay under the cap, but with Kobe's contract going into the 20 mil category I don't know if they can avoid it anyway.

Ben's 28 mil remaining would be an issue in the long run.

by NBA Observer on Jan 21, 2008 3:45 PM CST up reply actions

his contract isn't longer than

the Lakers' 'window' (hardy-har) though.

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Jan 21, 2008 3:57 PM CST up reply actions

This is why

Jackson loves Wallace and figures he could use him like Rodman and they like the idea of having Wallace guard guys like Duncan and Marion etc etc.

Plus I think most of the league knows if you put Wallace next to a great post player like Bynum, it allows him to be a more dominant defender. Allows him to roam around and disrupt an offense.

Plus they hate Radmanovic's contact as much as we hate Wallace's.

. . . . . Well maybe not as much, but close

by Option27 on Jan 21, 2008 4:04 PM CST up reply actions

what I would love

would be to get Kwame's big, fat, expiring contract and ship it to Memphis for a certain hirsute, chain-smoking spaniard....

by Freethefro on Jan 21, 2008 4:02 PM CST up reply actions

still 20 minutes till the game

The chain smoking spainyard...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~1016~3032~885~996&teams=29~4~29~13 ~4&te=&cash=

Plus, give draft picks... Memphis still not doing it. Bulls be taking back a lot of Salary.

by Jesse07 on Jan 21, 2008 4:12 PM CST up reply actions

To sweeten the pot for Memphis

we'd have to both throw in Nocioni and take Cardinal's horrendous deal. The salaries do work, even though we'd be taking on a lot of dough. What I can't figure out is how to factor in the resigning - or not - of Gordon and Deng.

by Freethefro on Jan 21, 2008 4:16 PM CST up reply actions

I think this can work

(I've got salaries listed on my site, by the way, not trying to spam, but it's useful for this conversation!)

Bulls send Wallace to the Lakers, Tyrus and Noc to the Grizz, and get back Gasol, Radmanovic, and Cardinal.

Salary cap wise, we'd actually still be in A-OK shape to re-sign Deng and Gordon. We'd have:
Gasol: $15M
Kirk: $11M
Cardinal: $6.3M
Radmanovic: $6M
Smith: $5M
Thabo: $1.9M
Noah: $1.9M
Griffin: $1.7M
Gray: 711k
Curry: 711k
Total: $49M
The luxury tax will be at about $70M, meaning there's about $21M available for signing up Deng, Gordon, and other guys to fill the roster.

That shouldn't be a problem. Hypothetically, even if we signed up both of them to 6/$68M contracts (which seams at the very upper end of reasonable to me), they'd make $9M each next year, so they could both be signed and there would be a bit of room left over to fill in the holes.

Projecting it out in the longer run, we're fine too. So as far as I can tell, the finances on such a deal would be a go.

by Sports2 on Jan 21, 2008 7:30 PM CST up reply actions

Only problem...

Is that a Memphis paper is saying that the Grizzlies want to package Brian Cardinal's contract with Gasol. And that's a pretty bad contract.

by CubFan81 on Jan 21, 2008 4:17 PM CST up reply actions

Vlad & Cardnial

Would be a lot of cap for two player who combined aren't a poor man Noce.

by Jesse07 on Jan 21, 2008 4:20 PM CST up reply actions

Yup

we'd be basically eating crappy contracts to get Gasol.

by Freethefro on Jan 21, 2008 4:26 PM CST up reply actions

I hadn't

heard about taking Cardinal that is a bad contract.

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 21, 2008 4:34 PM CST up reply actions

BW Trade

Thanks for the LA reaction; its always nice to know what other fans are things. I thought it was a smart place to send Wallace when Matt brought this trade destination up last week. How does Vlad's contract increase over the final years?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=885~981~1016&teams=13~4~4&te=& cash=

by Jesse07 on Jan 21, 2008 4:01 PM CST up reply actions

It goes...

Vlad's contract is: $5.6 mil this year, $6.05 '08/'09, $6.4 '09/'10, and a player option for $6.8 in '10/'11.

by CubFan81 on Jan 21, 2008 4:15 PM CST up reply actions

Thats because Kwame Sucks, the fans

want him gone and would be pleased if they could get something back. The Lakes were crazy on that on giving up Caron Butler.

by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 21, 2008 4:36 PM CST up reply actions

I question

why Bulls fans want to do that so badly. Wallace can be helpful on his end of the court, at least. Rado is only good for the 3s. Kwame is good for nothing.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

by marionette on Jan 21, 2008 7:21 PM CST up reply actions

I saw the

Wallace to the Lakers talk. I guess Vlad could keep Victor company. I was happy to see the game is on TNT

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 21, 2008 4:11 PM CST reply actions

I'm going to guess

a Serb and a Russian aren't the same.

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Jan 21, 2008 4:14 PM CST up reply actions

I know that

I was just saying they could sit next to each other

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 21, 2008 4:16 PM CST up reply actions

no way

Vlad-Rad's sub-par rebounding and chucking is worth at least 20 MPG with the Bulls.

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Jan 21, 2008 4:19 PM CST up reply actions

No,

obviously not, but Serbs and Russians have longstanding and warm historical ties, not to mention that Russian and Serbo-Croatian have enough commonalities that they could communicate fairly well. What, they don't teach that in your hot shit college?

by Freethefro on Jan 21, 2008 4:18 PM CST up reply actions

the university of blogological thought

only covers wikipedia entries.

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Jan 21, 2008 4:21 PM CST up reply actions

lol

by Freethefro on Jan 21, 2008 4:22 PM CST up reply actions

Deng

is warming up, but lets hope it's a blowout and he gets LOTS of rest.

by lwinston300 on Jan 21, 2008 4:18 PM CST reply actions

Looks like Deng is going to play

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 21, 2008 4:34 PM CST reply actions

I rather see him rest.

by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 21, 2008 4:38 PM CST up reply actions

I agree

but we don't get to make the decisions

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 21, 2008 4:40 PM CST up reply actions

Am I really seeing

Kirk and Thabo starting together???

Holy cow batman

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 21, 2008 4:38 PM CST reply actions

My picture quality is horrible

Anyone else having that problem?

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 21, 2008 4:38 PM CST reply actions

yep

mine too...typical TNT picture

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 21, 2008 4:40 PM CST up reply actions

Same here

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 21, 2008 4:42 PM CST up reply actions

Looks more like a WNBA crowd....

place is half empty

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 21, 2008 4:39 PM CST reply actions

Thabo & Deng

I'm not sure Thabo & Deng's game complements eachother. Those two might need BG on the court to be effective.

by Jesse07 on Jan 21, 2008 4:42 PM CST reply actions

wow

I didnt realize the Grizzlies were quite so bad on defense

by JSlakov on Jan 21, 2008 4:44 PM CST reply actions

'bout like the Bulls on D.....

...today at least.

Hope the grizzzz aren't 3 point shooting team...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 21, 2008 4:46 PM CST up reply actions

Anybody else feel

like they are watching a high school game? A really nice one, but still.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 21, 2008 4:47 PM CST reply actions

It seems

to have that feel to it

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 21, 2008 4:50 PM CST up reply actions

yeah but in the HS games I've been to

the teams score

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 21, 2008 4:51 PM CST up reply actions

one thing

to like about having Tyrus Thomas in is there's the chance of a blocked shot when someone gets completely blown by like Deng by Conley there.

by JSlakov on Jan 21, 2008 4:52 PM CST reply actions

I'll give Deng some slack on that one cause

conley is quick as heck & deng is hurting but I still don't want to see Deng play the 2 spot for that reason.

by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 21, 2008 4:54 PM CST up reply actions

broadcast delay?

Maybe I've never noticed this, but the coverage on TNT is like 10-20 seconds behind WGN. Are TNT games always delayed?

by Orange Juice on Jan 21, 2008 4:55 PM CST reply actions

If Charles Barkley worked for your network . . .

You'd probably want a 10-second delay too.

by Big D on Jan 21, 2008 4:58 PM CST up reply actions

Radio is delayed

At least from the audio feed at nba.com.

But most networks doing live tv have a delay built in. The time varies.

by KT on Jan 21, 2008 8:11 PM CST up reply actions

Noce

I think Noce wants to stay in Chicago. He is chucking and missing more than normal.

by Jesse07 on Jan 21, 2008 4:57 PM CST reply actions

Czar is right

Bulls are living on the perimeter...
WTF?

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 21, 2008 4:58 PM CST reply actions

Wallace is out

maybe now they'll step up the pace a little now

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 21, 2008 5:03 PM CST reply actions

Wow, those are some shooting percentages!

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 21, 2008 5:04 PM CST reply actions

Man if we don't take over this game with all

the turnovers they giving up.

by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 21, 2008 5:06 PM CST reply actions

Did I just see mighty mouse?

Didn't know he was still in the NBA...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 21, 2008 5:07 PM CST reply actions

yeah he wants to get traded since they put him

on the bench he asked to get traded and hasn't played a min. since.

by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 21, 2008 5:39 PM CST up reply actions

Gasol looks like he has the flu

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 21, 2008 5:10 PM CST reply actions

WTF Noc???

4 long bricks in row....

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 21, 2008 5:15 PM CST reply actions

The rim at my middle school

sounded better than that.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 21, 2008 5:15 PM CST reply actions

sad

its a sad state of a team when the person who attacks the basket the most is Ben Gordon.

by JSlakov on Jan 21, 2008 5:16 PM CST reply actions

I have to gamecast this

while at work.

Sounds like both teams are playing sloppy.

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 21, 2008 5:16 PM CST reply actions

looked like BG hurt his wrist on that last foul

hope he's okay

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 21, 2008 5:24 PM CST reply actions

weird

this might be the most mellow game I've ever witnessed. The crowd is dead, the TNT announcers are mailing it more than I've ever heard and the teams are mostly taking turns taking poorly contested jumpers.

by JSlakov on Jan 21, 2008 5:24 PM CST reply actions

TNT announcers

what do you expect from the likes of czar and dickhead stock-tone?

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 21, 2008 5:26 PM CST up reply actions

People complain about Red

but isn't Stockton waaaay past his time?

Red sounded fine last game. Maybe the cold temp helped. And I HATE Czar.

by marionette on Jan 21, 2008 5:40 PM CST up reply actions

I am disgusted at the 2nd quarater.

Horrible what we score like 12 points.

by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 21, 2008 5:37 PM CST reply actions

Bulls scored 18

in the second, up 1 from 17 points scored in the first.

I'm sure Matt is enjoying every minute of it at the game.

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 21, 2008 5:39 PM CST up reply actions

Poor Matt!

I was fortunate that the game I went to we actually won. Russian roulette this season.

by cranscape on Jan 21, 2008 5:51 PM CST up reply actions

ugh

Thabo fg 1/6 , ft 0/2

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 21, 2008 5:37 PM CST reply actions

What a pathetic last couple of minutes!

35 points in the half? And getting out-rebounded to boot.

Good (?) news is there is still a half to go - hopefully Boylan wakes 'em up at half time.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 21, 2008 5:39 PM CST reply actions

If we had a low post preasence

we'd all see how tradeable Gasol is. I'd almost rather have Wallace when you consider the money.

by marionette on Jan 21, 2008 5:43 PM CST reply actions

Shitty first

half by the Bulls. Get your act together guys and come out scorchin' in the second half.

Yes, the game is on in Iowa.

by sue369 on Jan 21, 2008 5:46 PM CST reply actions

They've got to shoot better, right?

I mean, Thabo and Noc are 1-11 together right now. Of course, they have to both score more and not let Memphis score more.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 21, 2008 5:50 PM CST up reply actions

These are the games that make me want

to burn my tickets.

35 points in one half against the lowly Grizzlies?

Deng still doesn't look healthy. He was getting abused by Miller during one stretch.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 21, 2008 5:50 PM CST reply actions

I rushed home from work

and was going to pull this one up on the radio since I don't get TNT or WGN. Should I bother? Maybe I'll check back towards the end of the third to see if they've found the basket yet.

by cranscape on Jan 21, 2008 5:55 PM CST reply actions

That's not a bad idea

Although they've looked a little sharper here to start the 3rd. Maybe it depends on what kind of day you had at work? Are you up for the frustration tonight?

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 21, 2008 6:01 PM CST up reply actions

I did rush home in a snow storm!

Perhaps I should put it on since I was willing to risk my life for it. :D

by cranscape on Jan 21, 2008 6:06 PM CST up reply actions

came out with some fire at least

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 21, 2008 5:59 PM CST reply actions

Whenever I watch Gasol,

I always come away unimpressed, for some reason.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 21, 2008 6:04 PM CST reply actions

He's like the anti-Tyrus.

No wonder everyone wants him. Only if we were American and less Spanish looking, he'd be perfect.

Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Jan 21, 2008 6:07 PM CST up reply actions

wow

this is painfull to watch

by babybulls on Jan 21, 2008 6:07 PM CST reply actions

more...

painful than watching gasol's one handed shotput?

by leeac on Jan 21, 2008 6:10 PM CST up reply actions

joe smith needs to sit

he looks stiff. although he's getting some rebounds.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 21, 2008 6:08 PM CST reply actions

How the hell do the Bulls miss so many

shots right at the rim?

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 21, 2008 6:09 PM CST reply actions

5 minutes left in 3rd and

we don't have 50 points!

by hhi on Jan 21, 2008 6:11 PM CST reply actions

This may be one of the worst five NBA

games I've ever seen.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 21, 2008 6:11 PM CST reply actions

Wow, our shooting percentage has dropped!

How do you get worse than 33%? They really need to settle down and focus on playing a good game and quit chucking up these quick perimeter shots.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 21, 2008 6:12 PM CST reply actions

We need to stop playing detroit

because I stupidly fall for it every time and think things are improving. Then this happens.

by BoxingHideout on Jan 21, 2008 6:12 PM CST reply actions

They're like that really bad HS football team

where everyone figures if they just beat the one big rival that the season isn't a total loss.

Except that they're an NBA team where that does make the season a big, fat loss.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 21, 2008 6:17 PM CST up reply actions

just beat the one big rival

Umm....you talkin' 'bout da Bears? :-)

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 21, 2008 6:53 PM CST up reply actions

this team makes me

want to cry. as Charles Barkley said "even when they play was good as they can, they still not good enough. they're not real contenders." And on top of all of that, they play so many games like this where they play way below their highest level; it's just depressing how often they consistently play down to their competition.

by fundamentallysound on Jan 21, 2008 6:14 PM CST reply actions

Is there such a thing as negative chemistry?

With this group, the whole is less than the sum of the parts.

by hhi on Jan 21, 2008 6:16 PM CST reply actions

gasol low post?

has anyone been the least amount impressed the 'low post presence' he is so coveted for in chicago?

how about the bulls ask deng to put on 20-25lbs and learn a a few post moves? that i'd like to see.

by leeac on Jan 21, 2008 6:16 PM CST reply actions

If the Bulls can't come back and win this, they

should just go ahead and disband the team.

This is sad.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 21, 2008 6:20 PM CST reply actions

Gasol just scored around Noah like

he wasn't there.

by hhi on Jan 21, 2008 6:20 PM CST reply actions

I honestly can't identify a single

Bull who is playing well.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 21, 2008 6:23 PM CST reply actions

Deng comes close.

by alec on Jan 21, 2008 6:25 PM CST up reply actions

On the other

side of the ball, Hakim Warrick's finely manicured pointy beard is having a solid game.

by leeac on Jan 21, 2008 6:27 PM CST up reply actions

The Bulls are lucky they play in the East

If they played in the West, I honestly think they'd have a worse record than the Grizzlies do now. Other than the Pistons, they haven't even beaten a single good team. Just because they happen to still be in the playoff hunt (because the East is so bad), no one should fool themselves into thinking this team is good.

by Big D on Jan 21, 2008 6:24 PM CST reply actions

Personally, I feel that being blown out

by both the Grizzlies and the Hawks in the span of about a week is simply unacceptable.

Come back and win this game, Bulls.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 21, 2008 6:29 PM CST reply actions

Atl is not a bad team

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 21, 2008 6:31 PM CST up reply actions

Stil sub-.500 though.

They shouldn't beat the Bulls by 20.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 21, 2008 6:32 PM CST up reply actions

Atl is not a bad team

That's brilliant.
I suppose next you'll be telling us that the Bulls are a GOOD team...

guh.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 21, 2008 6:47 PM CST up reply actions

You really don't...

...want the Bulls to be great, do you? How can you seriously use that to imply whatever the hell you were implying? "ATL's not the worst team in the league, so it's not that bad. It's okay that the Bulls worse than mediocre. They aren't the worse team around." Is that what you're implying? What was the point of that comment?

Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Jan 21, 2008 6:45 PM CST up reply actions

Hey, Noc joined the party!

While it's nice to see them scoring a little more, and the shooting did finally improve a little there at the end, cutting a single point of the Griz lead isn't going to do much for us.

Maybe they have a big 4th in them?

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 21, 2008 6:29 PM CST reply actions

I was out, but it's recorded

Maybe I'll review it if I need some help falling asleep.

by marionette on Jan 21, 2008 6:29 PM CST reply actions

Marc Iavaroni

anybody else a little freaked out by his interview?

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 21, 2008 6:29 PM CST reply actions

The only reason to keep watching this game...

...would be to see a Tyrus vs. Stromile matchup. That would be a matchup of the absolute highest levels of mediocrity.

by leeac on Jan 21, 2008 6:32 PM CST reply actions

Warrick's beard

was just awarded an assist for the touch pass...

by leeac on Jan 21, 2008 6:34 PM CST reply actions

tee tee

has to make that alley oop

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 6:34 PM CST reply actions

did he switch onto Gay

or was that his matchup?

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 21, 2008 6:35 PM CST up reply actions

if bjizz...

took the time to throw up a decent lead instead of chucking it over his shoulder with his back to the basket... then maybe... hell, we're down 11, just keep feeding TT alley oops... we're bound to make a few...

by leeac on Jan 21, 2008 6:36 PM CST up reply actions

that was a pretty good pass

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 21, 2008 6:37 PM CST up reply actions

It was a good feed, IMO.

Even Tyrus can't finish at the rim tonight.

Deng, Hinrich, and Gordon (several times) have also missed point blank shots.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 21, 2008 6:39 PM CST up reply actions

yes.

we were missing point blank shots in the first quarter

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 7:33 PM CST up reply actions

yes.

we were missing point blank shots in the first quarter

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 7:33 PM CST up reply actions

Deng has performed his famous

disappearing act.

by philosoball on Jan 21, 2008 6:38 PM CST reply actions

Uh, He's been out of the game.

by marionette on Jan 21, 2008 6:45 PM CST up reply actions

If that's not disappearing I don't know

what is.

by philosoball on Jan 21, 2008 6:52 PM CST up reply actions

heh they're making stromile look like an all-star

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 21, 2008 6:40 PM CST reply actions

I have

a very discreet man-crush on Swift. I thought he'd be a MUCh better player and still hope that he finds a situation more suited to his talent

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 6:49 PM CST up reply actions

Just once I'd like to see the Bulls

beat a team that they SHOULD beat....
instead of getting blown out by that team.

I just came back into the room and watched SIX offensive rebounds / attempts, only to come away empty.

W-T-F?

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 21, 2008 6:42 PM CST reply actions

after

watching this game, i don't know if there's a team in the league that the bulls SHOULD beat.

by leeac on Jan 21, 2008 6:51 PM CST up reply actions

I was referring to BEFORE the game...

LOL

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 21, 2008 6:56 PM CST up reply actions

Pathetic

17 points!

by hhi on Jan 21, 2008 6:42 PM CST reply actions

This is so wack

How can Paxson stand to watch this shit any longer

by Option27 on Jan 21, 2008 6:43 PM CST reply actions

Down 17 to the Grizzlies.

Since Boylan took over, we have lost to the Hawks, the Knicks, and the Grizzlies. Two of the three losses have been blowouts.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 21, 2008 6:43 PM CST reply actions

I LOVE

this bulls team!!!!

by babybulls on Jan 21, 2008 6:43 PM CST reply actions

Damn

what a heartbreaker. Not the first time we've seen these guys check out en masse but it just points up how far away this roster is. Its missed assignment on top of mental error on top of bad match up combined with not knowing what the fuck is happening. The perfect storm.

These guys are close but the final piece, or two, aren't here yet.

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 6:45 PM CST reply actions

close

to what?...

by leeac on Jan 21, 2008 6:53 PM CST up reply actions

close

to being able to compete with anyone in the East. These games are frustrating but they aren't a good indicator of their overall talent. They're 20 times better than Memphis but for whatever reason they still haven't developed the maturity they need to kill these kinds of teams. They still play down to their competition which is the surest sign of an immature team

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 7:08 PM CST up reply actions

Noah is the only one shooting at least 50%

and that's only because he's 1 of 2.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 21, 2008 6:46 PM CST reply actions

Meanwhile, the Griz are shooting 50%

as a team, and have a 17 fta advantage and are +5 on rebounds.

Bulls aren't going to win many games this way.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 21, 2008 6:48 PM CST up reply actions

Thats

an offensive foul like my ass chews gum

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 6:47 PM CST reply actions

now THAT would be a real trick

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 21, 2008 6:48 PM CST up reply actions

Pay for

the beer and God knows what you might see

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 6:51 PM CST up reply actions

Have Noah and Wallace ever

defended a lob?

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 21, 2008 6:47 PM CST reply actions

Careful

you're mentioning Wallace AND Noah in the same critical breath!

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 6:50 PM CST up reply actions

Alright you guys its been nice blogging with

you. I'll be back if we somehow make it back to .500 I'll still watch the games just with much less expectations. I'll expect to lose and be suprised by a win.

by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 21, 2008 6:53 PM CST reply actions

Otherwise I'll be back blogging next year.

by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 21, 2008 6:53 PM CST up reply actions

I'm hanging around

to see some of the younger guys play. That's pretty much it.

The team doesn't look good together at all, but I can probably ride it out as long as they eventually shake things up with a trade, work developing the young guys, and actively try to get themselves a better situation for next year.

by cranscape on Jan 21, 2008 8:37 PM CST up reply actions

Damn, this team is

capable of playing some real crap defense this year.

by marionette on Jan 21, 2008 6:54 PM CST reply actions

Mathew

cannot go on the road any-fucking-more.

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 6:55 PM CST reply actions

i hope he had 100 level seats

because if he got stuck up in the rafters he's hating life. The only decent thing about a game like this is getting to sit right behind the bench and get to see the action up close, otherwise you might as well be on the couch.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 21, 2008 6:58 PM CST up reply actions

he better

have had 100 seats at a minimum. Hell, that game looked like it was only marginally more well attended than the ATL game you were at a few days ago. Please tell me you didn't have to travel to that game

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 7:02 PM CST up reply actions

heh

3 hours both ways... but it's the only game I'll go to this year probably, and sitting 5th row was worth it.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 21, 2008 7:13 PM CST up reply actions

TT

at point guard?...

by leeac on Jan 21, 2008 6:57 PM CST reply actions

Nice drive by TT.

Too little too late.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 21, 2008 6:57 PM CST reply actions

Pathetic.

I can't even identify one or two discrete reasons we lost this game.

It was a total team failure.

Bulls 7-7 under Boylan against a very easy schedule.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 21, 2008 6:58 PM CST reply actions

not aggressively going to the hoop

FT disparity. Bulls 11-14, Memphis 22-28. 11 pts.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 21, 2008 7:00 PM CST up reply actions

Thats an old issue

Same thing killed us v. GS

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 7:05 PM CST up reply actions

The thing that killed us against GS

was the fact that we missed so many, not the disparity between the two teams. However it's an old issue from way back at the beginning of the season regardless.

by Jaina on Jan 21, 2008 7:19 PM CST up reply actions

How much

does this game piss you off if you're the Detroit Pistons? Im guessin' a lot

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 6:59 PM CST reply actions

Honestly

I wish we played Detroit 82 games a year

by Option27 on Jan 21, 2008 7:01 PM CST up reply actions

I'd say Saturday nights game

would piss them off more.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 21, 2008 7:01 PM CST up reply actions

Love it

Wallace walks out leading everyone with a totally blank "I-couldn't-care-less" look on his face....
Deng follows him with his head down...
and Noah follows with a PISSED look on his face...

Looks like disarray to me.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 21, 2008 7:00 PM CST reply actions

Never

miss an opportunity to overreact.

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 7:04 PM CST up reply actions

Blow up this team

If they can't beat teams like the Grizzlies, they're going to be annihilated when they go on their Western road trip in a few weeks.

by Big D on Jan 21, 2008 7:01 PM CST reply actions

Memphis gives up the second most

points in the league and we got shut down, yikes!

by philosoball on Jan 21, 2008 7:08 PM CST reply actions

I don't think it's as much Griz shut 'em down

as it is that they have these nights where they can't shoot. Splitting hairs, I know, and they are equally bad problems to have. But I didn't think the Griz defense was as much of a problem as the shot selection and guys just being off.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 21, 2008 7:11 PM CST up reply actions

Exactly, on any given night against

any team, if we aren't hitting from outside then we cannot score. Deng definitely looked a bit slow and Joe Smith was not looking too strong either. But even with all that we are a team on the verge of getting blown out almost every single game. I think we just don't have enough two-way players. We always have to choose between offense and defense and our overall talent is too low especially considering all our "high talent" players are unpolished offensively, ie -Tyrus, Noah and Sefolosha. Fuck!!

by philosoball on Jan 21, 2008 7:17 PM CST up reply actions

Now that the "youngsters" have

gotten some minutes it might be time to start assessing their efficiency. Tonight in 70 combined minutes, Noah, Tyrus and Thabo scored 15 points whilest pulling down 13 boards with 5 assists.
If they continue to get minutes it will be interesting to see if the productivity significantly improves since tonight they clearly were not effective enough.

by philosoball on Jan 21, 2008 9:06 PM CST up reply actions

good for you

they need to produce if they are going to get minutes.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 21, 2008 9:31 PM CST up reply actions

Well, if we keep getting blown out

by every sub-.500 team I'm pretty sure we'll be seeing a lot more of these young'uns whether it is "earned" or not.

by philosoball on Jan 21, 2008 9:43 PM CST up reply actions

Pathetic because the only Grizzlies

I'd want are Conley and Gay. Maybe Lowry, and Navarro 'cause he can shoot. They didn't beat us with their interior game per se, we just gave it up on all the lobs. And they happen to have better perimeter shooters. But they are all poor and poorer defenders...look at the roster. Worse than LAC on the other side of the ball. And the Bulls fail to make such teams pay.

Certainly an interior game couldn't hurt, but the Bulls (even Gordon) are not consistent with the open outside shot, so they need the D, the turnovers and transition.

Should've been an easy win, and they weren't even close.

by marionette on Jan 21, 2008 7:11 PM CST reply actions

play to lose

This team cannot beat anyone, so either make some big trades or play for the lottery. There is no reason to do anything else as it is totally obvious that the team cannot win its current personnel.

by Stay Chisel on Jan 21, 2008 7:12 PM CST reply actions

Bulls starters

were outscored 75 to 40.

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 21, 2008 7:22 PM CST reply actions

Hey. We're on again.

We have Heat jerseys on.

by hhi on Jan 21, 2008 7:23 PM CST reply actions

When

we have Celtic jersey's on we'll be hard to beat

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions

Actually, the Heat is playing

a lot better than we did.

But Shaq did miss a couple of layups which reminded me of us.

by hhi on Jan 21, 2008 7:38 PM CST reply actions

Get on with it.

Now is the time to identify the true core. By age, this would qualify Gordon, Deng, Noah, Thabo, and Tyrus. See if Gordon and/or Deng are worth more on the trade market, determine if it is still worthwhile to keep veterans like Hinrich and Nocioni, and attempt to move Wallace and Smith to clear cap space. Paxson has to take this team out of the awkard position of having a mixture of young players and veterans on a team that just isn't quite good enough to contend.

by messwiththebull on Jan 21, 2008 7:49 PM CST reply actions

Was it as bad

as these posts lead me to believe? I had to take my daughter to practice so I missed the last three quarters

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 21, 2008 7:50 PM CST reply actions

You got lucky

We shot 36% from the field against the worst team in the NBA in opponents field goal percentage.

by NBA Observer on Jan 22, 2008 8:48 AM CST up reply actions

Thank your daughter

for giving you something else to do.

by hhi on Jan 21, 2008 7:51 PM CST reply actions

That is funny

I will

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 21, 2008 7:55 PM CST up reply actions

This is

reminescient of the White Sox last season.

The transition from the "automatic win" mentality, to the "we are one of these teams."

by gobulls1124 on Jan 21, 2008 8:05 PM CST reply actions

Sounds like

da Bears too.

Tough year.

by hhi on Jan 21, 2008 8:06 PM CST reply actions

Damn you guys are

twisting the knife

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 21, 2008 8:19 PM CST up reply actions

Get rid of Kirk, Deng, and Big Ben,

Kirk is awful and WAY OVERPAID. He blows too many open three's. Lets trade Deng while his value is steady, because I don't think he is going to get any better. And well, The CORPSE IS the worst player in the nba offensively. I like Noah and think he should be STARTING NOW for Ben. I would like this to be next years starting lineup;
Point guard, Thabo
Shooting Guard; Ben Gordon
Small Forward; Chase Budinger
Power Forward; Amare Stoudemire
Center; Joakim Noah
Bench; Tyrus, Duhon, Gray, Childress

by armstrong2389 on Jan 21, 2008 9:00 PM CST reply actions

you left out Noc

I don't know whether to put you in the hater or drive-by category.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 21, 2008 9:32 PM CST up reply actions

drive-by Budinger booster

I don't even know who that is, but I'm sure he's passionately tearing up the NCAA. The Swiss point guard business was old last season.

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Jan 21, 2008 10:01 PM CST up reply actions

How does this make you feel:

Budinger was the top high school volleyball player in the nation two years ago.

by alec on Jan 22, 2008 9:40 AM CST up reply actions

Why is it

so hard for this team to defend the three point shot? That killed us tonight and well most nights.

Yes, the game is on in Iowa.

by sue369 on Jan 21, 2008 9:42 PM CST reply actions

Defensive scheme?

For a drive 'n' kick team, we don't seem to defend it well. Bulls continually sagged on penetration by an inferior driver, only to leave a superior perimeter shooter like Gay or Miller or Navarro open. And leaving most any shooter open in the corner is bad. I think it's hard to defend there, though. But it's bad.

by marionette on Jan 21, 2008 9:59 PM CST up reply actions

It's a defensive breakdown

If you allow the slashing guard to get past you with nothing between them and the rim someone has to cheat down to help.
That leaves someone wide open. The opponent just has to pass the ball around the perimeter until it arrives at the open shooter.

This has plagued us all season. The perimeter defense is garbage. Defending the pick and pop is almost as bad.

by NBA Observer on Jan 22, 2008 8:52 AM CST up reply actions

Hello Matt Duhcioni...

that had to have been a rough game to watch in person. It had to be difficult watching these Cows (Wallace, Hinbrick) getting alley-ooped on the whole 4th qtr by Memphis. Have a safe trip back and say a prayer that the generation 2 core will em' help get a win vs. Indy.

by GoldenThreePeat on Jan 21, 2008 10:07 PM CST reply actions

"em' help"...that was Colt 45 grammar

by GoldenThreePeat on Jan 21, 2008 10:22 PM CST up reply actions

I cant watch New Orleans

without being in agony. Granted we never had Chris Paul but there goes Chandler with 20 and 15. And we in his place have the 2nd round draft pick JamesOn Curry. Awesome

by bullsfaninla on Jan 22, 2008 1:51 AM CST reply actions

Expect the worse against NO

Chris Paul is going to run our defense in circles. He'll either put up 40 points or 20 assists, but hopefully not both.

by NBA Observer on Jan 22, 2008 8:53 AM CST up reply actions

My first post on BaB

sucks! Just like the Bulls. I knew Rudy Gay was good but man we made him look awesome. How about Warrick and Swift dunking all over the corpse/Noah and pretty much anyone else. So help me god if I see Tyrus (my favorite player) pull another Tim Thomas and just sit out at the 3 point line Im gonna go postal. No wonder hes in the dog house and not getting any burn. Put him on Phoenix and he's an instant super star. I say we trade BG (resigned) and TT for Marion. Who the hell does he think he is? What a sad day in Bulls land. Can Kirk get hurt again? What's up with Luol? Boy did he look like crap. If Noc didnt hit those 3-4 3's late in the third we might have lost by 25-30 to one of the worst teams in the NBA. Kirk sucks so bad. Dribble till 5 secs left on the clock, dont penetrate, dont move around, hover around the corpse, pass to the corpse with 5 secs left, scatter, then watch corpse throw up airball, sounds like a usuall play for Capt. Kirk.

by Bulls4Ever on Jan 22, 2008 9:50 AM CST reply actions

Have you not

been paying attention? Luol is playing injured. He needs to sit out until he is healed or it's going to be like this the rest of the season.

Yes, the game is on in Iowa.

by sue369 on Jan 22, 2008 1:38 PM CST up reply actions

Hinrich DID HE PRACTICE IN THE OFFSEASON AT ALL?

He has got to be the worst starting point guard in the East and possibly the NBA now. PAX IS AN AWEFUL GM, HE GAVE THIS CRAP PLAYER 11.5 MILLION A YEAR. Ahhh THIS TEAM IS TERRIBLE THE ONLY PLAYERS I RESPECT ARE NOCIONI, AND NOAH. I HATE TO SAY IT BUT I AM PROJECTING REINSDORF TO FIRE PAX THIS OFFE SEASON AND BOYLAN. I WOULDN'T BOTHER ME BECUASE PAX HAS BLEW THE DRAFTS IN 04 AND 06. HIS ONLY GOOD MOVE WAS SIGNING NOC, BESIDES THAT HE HAS BEEN A CRAPPY GM.

by armstrong2389 on Jan 22, 2008 10:40 AM CST reply actions

ahh

stop yelling!! But, i feel your pain! However, I dont blame Pax because this team was headed in the right direction and did offer fair extensions to Gordon and Deng. Remember this team was supposed to win 50+ games, no one could have seen Deng, Gordon, Hinrich playing this bad. He will make a deal in the coming weeks and hopefully get rid of the corpse...

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 22, 2008 10:57 AM CST up reply actions