Open Game Thread #30: Bulls at Charlotte Bobcats
The one team the Bulls can beat.
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look for Gordon to be a spark
by hscs on Jan 2, 2008 6:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
really
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 6:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget Detroit!
by wjb1492 on Jan 2, 2008 6:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Creepy quiet.
by cranscape on Jan 2, 2008 6:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I noticed that, too
by wjb1492 on Jan 2, 2008 6:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The NBA's next commercial
by Big D on Jan 2, 2008 6:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hey, if I lived in those cities...
by cranscape on Jan 2, 2008 6:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wallace
by cranscape on Jan 2, 2008 6:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
To be fair,
by wjb1492 on Jan 2, 2008 6:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He just made a great pass
by Big D on Jan 2, 2008 6:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wallace
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 6:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wallace only plays inspired
I am pretty sick of watching his lazy ass playing and missing layups that SHOULD be monster dunks like he used to do in detwat.
Wallace is the BIGGEST waste of money on the bulls bench - that being because he makes more than anyone else on the bench. :-)
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 6:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did Red have a small stroke before the game?
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 6:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Bobcats traded for Nazr Mohammad last month
by Big D on Jan 2, 2008 6:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wooohoooo!!!!!!
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 6:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thabo!
by cranscape on Jan 2, 2008 6:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hinrich! Thabo! Gray!
Thabo isn't looking too bad so far. He is moving pretty fast, but not out of control. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't get a steal or two if he gets some playing time.
by cranscape on Jan 2, 2008 6:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Block by Thabo...
by cranscape on Jan 2, 2008 6:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey! Nice pass by Thabo....
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 6:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
How is it that Gray
Gray goes up for put back stuffs and Wallace won't even make a layup....
geesh...
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 6:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I doesn't take much
by cranscape on Jan 2, 2008 6:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tyrus has that look tonight....
Wonder what's it gonna take to see some TT?
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 6:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
ok that was ugly
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 6:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ben should be embarrassed
Only when he played like a monster dis that work....now it just tends to accentuate his horrid play....
Maybe his wife's sending a "signal" by letting him out of the house looking like that...
:-)
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 6:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noah!!!!
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 6:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Noah! And Noah again!
I'd love to see Noah get a good 15 point night.
by cranscape on Jan 2, 2008 6:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I hope they replay those after the commercials
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 7:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And he did two better
by cranscape on Jan 2, 2008 9:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noah stays in
by alec on Jan 2, 2008 6:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
absolutely pathetic turnover
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 7:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Please pull Smith
Gordon AND Lu under the basket and NEITHER of them can put it in....
Pathetic.
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 7:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
another o-rebound for BG
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 7:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else fell like a TT sighting
SHYTE!
At least TRY something and don't be like Skiles....
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 7:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
How does Hinrich look tonight on the court?
by NittanyBull on Jan 2, 2008 7:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
not bad
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 7:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
High Flying Dunk of the Game
by JSlakov on Jan 2, 2008 7:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This game has the feel of us slowly losing by more
by chgobr on Jan 2, 2008 7:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
joke of a team
I have no fun watching these games. Down 8 to the Bobcats at half.
At least Noah showed yet again why the coaching staff is moronic for sitting him so much.
What about Tyrus? Hold that thought, gotta get Joe Smith back in so he doesn't stiffen up!
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 7:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Gotta keep Wallace out there
by Big D on Jan 2, 2008 7:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We sign Wallace
by gobulls1124 on Jan 2, 2008 7:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Young guys
Actually, I with I went to the grocery store after work instead of rushing home to catch the game.
by cranscape on Jan 2, 2008 7:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Smith mixtape
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 7:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
deficit is now eleven
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 7:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They heard ya.
by alec on Jan 2, 2008 7:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
everyone is standing still
PULL HIS LAZY ASS!!
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 7:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
attacking the basket...
by bullsfaninbigapple on Jan 2, 2008 7:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
and Wallace is STILL out there.....
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 7:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can Smith dunk anymore?
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 7:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
great finisher
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 7:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well they've tied it with Wallace/Smith
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 7:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tied at 75
by cranscape on Jan 2, 2008 7:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't really mind
by cranscape on Jan 2, 2008 7:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
only thing saving the Bulls
(Chapter One: Why play one point guard when you can play TWO???)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 7:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
or THREE....
What makes this all so glaring is that with the talent and energy we have sitting on the bench, the Bulls should be BLOWING these cats out...
NOT struggling to catch up or tie the game.
Sigh...
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 7:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
again.....
What a bum
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 7:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't Hinrich goes into the lane
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 7:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Duhon did that patented play
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 7:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll give Boylan credit
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 7:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but he also skipped TT and went
So it cancels that out.... :-)
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noc hit some HUGE 3's when we were struggling.
by Mattchoo on Jan 2, 2008 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
looks like somebody
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BG getting picked
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 7:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wallace and Noah both with missed layups
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 7:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
this is going to be
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 7:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That's why Noah and Wallace
by alec on Jan 2, 2008 7:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
it's either this
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 7:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noah rules
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 7:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Noah ran the transition break possibly
by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 2, 2008 7:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no seriously
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 7:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just joined.
Any TT minutes tonight thus far?
by 1958ChiTown on Jan 2, 2008 7:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Any TT minutes tonight thus far?
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 7:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
can't play 'em both
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 7:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's not playing TT
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 8:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well it's working.... :-)
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 8:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noah is the freak of nature
HOW CAN THIS GUY GET NO PLAYING TIME!?
by Option27 on Jan 2, 2008 7:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Felton
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 7:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That was SUCH a good look--
by alec on Jan 2, 2008 7:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
is there any doubt
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The more I see this lazy Wallace play
At least TT plays hard...
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 8:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
doesn't matter if you don't run down the court
by snley on Jan 2, 2008 8:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noah is awesome
by Big D on Jan 2, 2008 8:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Noc on Richardson?
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 8:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Noah is a dude...
by bullsfaninbigapple on Jan 2, 2008 8:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not to dwell on old times
by Option27 on Jan 2, 2008 8:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Please don't its over 4 that!
by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 2, 2008 8:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The two of them together
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 8:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Two thoughts
(2) I can't wait until we trade Ben Gordon, and a month later the fans of the team we trade him to are all over our boards saying "WTF is up with him falling down all the time?".
by Jivas on Jan 2, 2008 8:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
oooh
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 8:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I give him credit for going strong
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and he does so
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BOYLAN
by Option27 on Jan 2, 2008 8:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
1st team to 100
Ain't that the norm? :-)
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 8:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sadly, I feel a Tyrus trade coming.
Sam Smith should be happy, though.
by 1958ChiTown on Jan 2, 2008 8:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
don't fall into the either/or
I'm happy that I get to see Noah + good Bulls basketball. Not entirely a coincidence, of course, but the point being I'll like wins better if the players I'm interested in contribute.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know.
by alec on Jan 2, 2008 8:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I meant during the offseason.
by 1958ChiTown on Jan 2, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, personally, I don't see why they
However, the Bulls seem to have concluded it's one or the other, for some reason.
The League must have secretly passed a resolution that said Noah and Tyrus can't be on the court together.
I don't get it.
by 1958ChiTown on Jan 2, 2008 8:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing 15 minutes ago
like they're seeing if they can play without missing him.
I hope not though.
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 8:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noah
Example was that play when he did the spin move and popped out to Noc for a missed 3
by Option27 on Jan 2, 2008 8:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
what positions are Noah and Wallace
by alec on Jan 2, 2008 8:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Because of Noah, Tyrus = superfluous
I'm discouraged by his lack of hustle - I thought his astronomic block/steal rates, and even his rate of personal fouls, were indicative of "activity", and I'm furious that he's not providing the hustle he should - but he's 21 for crying out loud. It's far too early to give up on him being an impact player.
Might not be too early to give up on him being a star though...we do need to see something, at some point, *this* season.
by Jivas on Jan 2, 2008 8:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If anything, Noah's presence
by Jivas on Jan 2, 2008 8:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but no one's gonna want Wall-ass's contract
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 8:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I got your spin cycle Stacy....
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 8:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah LOL at the stacey king spin cycle comment
by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 2, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He tries to be hip.
...as in...HIPPO
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 8:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Since when
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 8:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i assume this is in reply to something?
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's in reply to you.
by alec on Jan 2, 2008 8:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would hope that in essence the 2nd overall pick
by bullsfaninla on Jan 2, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
L. Deng gotta learn how to be a star, he had his
by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 2, 2008 8:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Noah is just a smarter player
by bullsfaninbigapple on Jan 2, 2008 8:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
plus he's better than those getting minutes ahead
by snley on Jan 2, 2008 8:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noah
by Option27 on Jan 2, 2008 8:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Noah looks like he can catch a pass
by bullsfaninla on Jan 2, 2008 8:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Typical Wallace play
nice.
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 8:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
NOAH the STUFFER
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 8:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thank God for the Charlotte Bobcats
by Big D on Jan 2, 2008 8:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tyrus's PT
But if we go basically the rest of the season without TT having a long stretch with some major playing time, that is totally F'd up.
by Jivas on Jan 2, 2008 8:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
didn't they try that before
by snley on Jan 2, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
das what Im talking about dunk the ball
by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 2, 2008 8:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
and king with a messing with sasquatch commercial
by bullsfaninla on Jan 2, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if it was on Gray
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This second half has pleasantly surprised me.
by chgobr on Jan 2, 2008 8:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
another must-have victory tonight
Wallace played the whole 2nd half, and tomorrow's another game. That's, uh, scary.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
worse for me
by snley on Jan 2, 2008 8:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the snailbiters will test the Bulls tomorrow
Paul Allen being the richest owner in the NBA and all...
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 8:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
TT THE COACH KILLER GETS NO MINUTES
And all without TT!!
by hhi on Jan 2, 2008 8:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
and the only game won
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cheer up, there.
by alec on Jan 2, 2008 8:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
true, but
by bullsfaninla on Jan 2, 2008 8:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just to not get ahead of ourselves
by Option27 on Jan 2, 2008 8:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good Win
by get clutch on Jan 2, 2008 8:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
How did they look?
by TMD on Jan 2, 2008 8:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
looked like crap
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I really, really want to pound the crap out of the
I was looking forward to a reenactment of Tyrus' domination of Aldridge in the NCAA Tourney (a head to head match-up people rarely mention when comparing the two), but I guess Tyrus is never going to play again.
In any case, I want the Bulls to win. Badly.
by 1958ChiTown on Jan 2, 2008 8:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tyrus and Aldridge
freaking disaster.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't get the overall plan
But what happens when they start playing good teams again? How bad will it have to get before the rotation loosens? And then if they throw Tyrus out there after being buried for a few weeks what can we expect?
and playoffs? I'm bracing myself for 'went with the guys who got us there' quotes galore.
damnit, the sweet taste of victory has now been replaced by vomit.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
that wasn't a very tight rotation tonight
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
technically that's true
"tight rotation" = No Tyrus. (or no Tyrus/Noah together).
If tight rotation means keeping Aaron Gray away, then tighten that shit up.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's too bad the season ended tonight
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see a scenario
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm down with that noise
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and what happened to the 'matchups' excuse
Rotations take a long time to change. Unless it's Skiles and Griffin.
And usually that change is necessitated by poor play, which I'd rather just be proactive and avoid.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he played six minutes
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I kindof contradicted myself
But I'd still say 6 minutes too many, but clearly the biggest minutes thief today was Wallace.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
MATT!!! Snap out of it man!!!
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tyrus apparently can't play
Team game. Smart players and coaches. Veterans. Gotta have a clue.
Noah won two national championships. Second time he had to take a back seat. He's also older. Big time game experience.
by hhi on Jan 2, 2008 8:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That's funny.
by 1958ChiTown on Jan 2, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Joakim communicates
I wouldn't mind a more chatty Noah to the press so long as he has the support of the vets.
by NBA Observer on Jan 3, 2008 8:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I want to see
by TMD on Jan 2, 2008 8:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Let me guess
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
uh, there's no +1 system
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose you're right
by TMD on Jan 2, 2008 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hadn't thought of that
by TMD on Jan 2, 2008 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey if nothin' else -
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 8:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
than Skiles, that is....
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
boylan postgame
damn skippy. I never get why coaches have to apologize for not getting players minutes. The control the minutes, the proof is in the pudding.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tight rotation
I think we're all mostly upset with the overuse of Wallace.
by Jivas on Jan 2, 2008 8:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
are you looking at the right box score
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 8:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It also says TT played
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 8:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are correct
by Jivas on Jan 2, 2008 8:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wins
So ... the big change is to play those guys more?
by Jivas on Jan 2, 2008 8:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh shyte - now I've heard it all
Just because when he's on the floor the Bulls are +17...?
WTF?
by Bluelou on Jan 2, 2008 8:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I am crazy, but I think
JMO.
by 1958ChiTown on Jan 2, 2008 8:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
towards the end of the third quarter
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 8:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
to start the fourth
It's so nuts that the Bulls are increasing instead of decreasing his minutes. It's clear that he can be effective, but only in spurts. And it's not like there's no viable options off the bench.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you ever pay attention to matchups?
Did Okafor get by Wallace last night? Yes. Twice on some nice low posts moves. Okafor didn't make either attempt. Wallace blocked the shots from behind on the recovery.
I'm not asking you to shower Ben Wallace with praise, but pat him on the back when has a solid OVERALL game.
by NBA Observer on Jan 3, 2008 8:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He looked better
by cranscape on Jan 3, 2008 8:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
right
I think Wallace does play well in spurts, which is more reason in my mind to just give him spurts of PT, not the whole half so he can coast for most of the time. It's just going to get worse as he gets older and crankier.
Having a guy like Noah or Tyrus next to him can do wonders though.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 3, 2008 9:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wallace stopped Howard too
I don't police your comments, but narry a peep shows up giving credit to Ben Wallace for slowing Dwight Howard and Emeka Okafor.
by NBA Observer on Jan 3, 2008 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer to bitch about what's wrong.
Didn't watch the Orlando game.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 3, 2008 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There's this new stat called plus/minus...
by mdmnd9294 on Jan 3, 2008 9:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No he's only talking about it
by Scotter on Jan 3, 2008 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like what Kendall Gill
I think TT's as pretty good interior passer, don't you, Matt?
by alec on Jan 2, 2008 8:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
are you trying to pander to my Tyrus love?
Yeah he can pass as well. So can Wallace (at least the advertised version). In fact they all can.
It is interesting that post-firing the stories were that it wasn't just personnel that kept the Bulls from using the post, but that Skiles actively disliked using post play.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they can all pass
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 8:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
(maybe some Tyrus slobbering)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wallace looked pretty good vs Orlando
by hhi on Jan 2, 2008 8:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't get all the negativity..
by bullsfaninbigapple on Jan 2, 2008 8:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm trying to be proactively cranky
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
XACTLY!
by hhi on Jan 2, 2008 8:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
blah blah blah
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 8:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kendall Gill
sheesh.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 8:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
did you guys flood that comcast poll?
by bullshooter on Jan 2, 2008 8:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not surprising
by cranscape on Jan 2, 2008 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noah played great tonight.
by Mattchoo on Jan 2, 2008 8:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
works for me
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 2, 2008 9:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The old M2GwcSaD?
by mdmnd9294 on Jan 3, 2008 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Keep Noah
When Wallace's legs fall off late next season, we're going to want all the young bigs we currently have (Noah, Thomas, Gray).
by mdmnd9294 on Jan 3, 2008 9:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would think we could get Gasol
by TMD on Jan 2, 2008 9:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't give up on Noah
by Option27 on Jan 3, 2008 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice win
Two posters in one night from the rookie is impressive. I thought the bang on Okafor was special and the kid goes out and one ups himself in the same game. However, the most impressive play of the night was the steal of the interior pass off the screen and roll. Noah's length and good footwork put him in ideal position to seal that passing lane and his extended arm is long enough to get a finger on the pass. He stole it, dribbled to the center of the court and passed it as he approached the three point line. These demonstrations of basktball IQ aren't helpful to the "Play Tyrus" brigade.
Joakim should get more PT tonight guarding Pryzbilla. Another win at home in front of the national tv audience will go a long way in turning our season around.
3-1 in the Boylan era and the only loss was a las second game winner.
by NBA Observer on Jan 3, 2008 8:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
the play tyrus brigade
by hscs on Jan 3, 2008 9:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not Noah v Tyrus
by NBA Observer on Jan 3, 2008 9:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noah was PF most of the night
It's not that hard to find minutes for Tyrus, between Smith/Noc/Wallace.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 3, 2008 9:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
questions
When Ben Wallace is in the game guarding Emeka Okafor is Wallace the center or the pf?
The Comcast crew seemed to think all game that Ben Wallace was playing the PF.
Gerald Wallace was guarding Noah. Noah was guarding Gerald Wallace. Gerald is not a center.
I've confused myself now.
by NBA Observer on Jan 3, 2008 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
who guards who(m)
It doesn't matter really, outside of the measurement mafia who start weeping when talking about a 6'7" center.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 3, 2008 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noah was terrific last night
by chgobr on Jan 3, 2008 8:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Houston
I'd rather acquire a solid perimeter shooter than a point guard like a Jacque Vaughn type that cannot shoot.
by NBA Observer on Jan 3, 2008 8:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Luther Head
by BJarmstrong on Jan 3, 2008 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Two game mini-slump for Du
by wjb1492 on Jan 3, 2008 8:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but he's facilitating!
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 3, 2008 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noah = Stud!!!
Again no TT. He must have a shitty attitude or is lazy as hell in practice. Two coaches would not bench him if it wasn't something like that. Not that Kendall Gill knows anything about TT's situation but he said last night that TT is young may be a little hard headed and doesn't want to listen to the coaches. If that is the case someone needs to talk to him and help see his error.
by sue369 on Jan 3, 2008 9:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not getting ant pt against the Bobcats
Side note: Twice I heard espn sportscasters call Jim Boylan, "Jim Borlan".
by RogersPark Kris on Jan 3, 2008 9:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Missing PJ and Randy Livingston
by NBA Observer on Jan 3, 2008 9:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He could be
by sue369 on Jan 3, 2008 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Something strange is going on
by chgobr on Jan 3, 2008 9:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we can make some pretty safe assumptions
My guess is that it's mostly his inexperience coupled with a native inability to comprehend his assignments. You can't play him if he screws up everyone else's roles. If he's going to play at all, it will probably start with very short stretches in which he has very simply instructions, then, after he grasps that piece, slowly and gradually his assignments will get expanded.
I'm not saying he's stupid. In fact, it's probably more about the Bulls' inability to discover and exploit Thomas' `learning style' than about Tyrus' inability to learn.
by alec on Jan 3, 2008 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the whole team is stupid
by hscs on Jan 3, 2008 10:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noah did exactly what we need.
by chgobr on Jan 3, 2008 9:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he did show post moves
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 3, 2008 9:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Give Boylan credit for seeing the miss-match
Noah was a key for us winning last night. We cannot rely on BG to bale us out every game. Noah helped us win. Gerald Wallace is not a bad shot blocker but your point is well-taken.
by chgobr on Jan 3, 2008 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And a little more
Gerald Wallace really doesn't stand a chance at 6'7" against a 6'11" Noah in the low post. Noah even had a put back tap in at the rim that would have been over the back if Noah wasn't using his finger nails to get the bucket.
Does Sam Vincent go to Jemaereo Davidson? The Bobcats are very thin in the front court. They are more thin than they were the last time we played them in Charlotte. Jordan keeps making Dumars look like a genius.
by NBA Observer on Jan 3, 2008 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Was it against Gerald Wallace?
by alec on Jan 3, 2008 10:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the bobcats switched
by bullshooter on Jan 3, 2008 10:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
...too many Wallaces.
And on defense, Noah spent more time guarding Gerald Wallace out on the floor.
by alec on Jan 3, 2008 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noah spent more time guarding Gerald Wallace
One can only hope...
by Bluelou on Jan 3, 2008 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I worry about Noah's
Playing Noah at the 4 and leave more of a true center at the 5 spot. This would at least give the Bulls an advantage for rebounds and getting a big man to run out on fast breaks.
by RogersPark Kris on Jan 3, 2008 10:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noah will get bigger.
by tyger1147 on Jan 3, 2008 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't lift all summer
by NBA Observer on Jan 3, 2008 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So we can take that as your vote for more
by wjb1492 on Jan 3, 2008 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tyson
I wouldnt worry bout that
by Option27 on Jan 3, 2008 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And there's that Marcus Camby
Point being you don't need to be the most massive guy in the world, like you said. You do have to be strong though, and intense, and Noah will be both those things.
by Freethefro on Jan 3, 2008 5:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's an idea
In the digital age, anything can happen...
(okay - so that's obsurd...but I would just like to know what TT did at least, to be such a non factor)
by Bluelou on Jan 3, 2008 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noah's great 4th quarter
- Noah's 4th: 11 pts and a help value of 12. That's outstanding. That stint looks good in the boxscore too.
- Wallace's +/- of +15 is deceptive. He played 23:10 min of a 2nd half in which the Bulls had a +20 scoring advantage. Deng, Gordon, Smith, & Noah all contributed more in the 2nd half. He played well, but was more a beneficiary than a catalyst.
- More 2nd half: No other Bull played more than 20 min in the 2nd half. Wallace played more than anyone else.
- Weird line-up of the night: Duhon/Gordon/Nocioni/Noah/Wallace. I knew that looked weird when I was watching the game.
by mdmnd9294 on Jan 3, 2008 10:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The one that had me saying "ugh" was..
by JeffD on Jan 3, 2008 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Matt gets props from TrueHoops' Henry Abbott again
Do you two know each other? He mentions BaB all the time on his ESPN TrueHoop blog.
by RogersPark Kris on Jan 3, 2008 11:20 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The true test will be when comments like
unfortunately
this franchise doesn't know their asset from their asshole.
(it sounded better in my head)
by Matt on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 10:38:18 AM CST
by alec on Jan 3, 2008 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe that should be my
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 3, 2008 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
'know' in the internet sense
I'm not sure I agree that a 'debate' with Boylan would work. It'd be more like I'd ask what's the deal, and he'd say the deal, and I'd just say "well, ok then."
I know pretty much nothing beyond 'hey this guy's good lets play him more'. (not that such a philosophy wouldn't go far)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 3, 2008 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hmm. I read that as 'know'
by alec on Jan 3, 2008 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow what a tangent...
by bullshooter on Jan 3, 2008 12:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Look, if the Grizzlies' bloggers
John Paxson may be outside of the realm of possibility for this sort of thing, since, let's face it, he's kind of taken a beating here at blogabulls.com this season. And he doesn't suffer undesirable situations lightly, if the trade of Eddy Curry is any indication (or one of a number of incidents during his managing or playing days). He seems a nice enough guy, but my gut feeling is that he'd be on the defensive just because of how this season's gone so far.
Boylan on the other hand is a fresh face, and provides the much needed "good cop" routine to Skiles' (former) "bad cop".
I have no doubt that such a debate, or rather a "friendly sit-down" could occur given (1) common social/business connections between this blog and Bulls' brass (not totally unrealistic if you think about it), and/or (2) the agreement by both parties of some ground basic rules.
by bullhockey on Jan 3, 2008 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Or Chris Wallace, for that matter.
by bullhockey on Jan 3, 2008 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Or basic ground rules, even.
by bullhockey on Jan 3, 2008 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
float the idea
If that doesn't work, just show up at the Berto center and ask Boylan in person.
I talked to Jim Boeheim about a Syracuse game while he was pumping gas into his car. I can neither confirm nor deny that I needed gas that badly that day.
The formal requests sure beat the quasi stalking methods.
by NBA Observer on Jan 3, 2008 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If they agree to boylan
by bullshooter on Jan 3, 2008 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What's the point?
by Big D on Jan 3, 2008 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In all fairness, I did hear
First, it was interesting that one of the first questions in the interview recap was whether Thomas would get more playing time.
Boylan's answer was basically (extreme paraphrasing warning), "We're going to look at some things, and we're going to have accountability. I have a different personality than Scott Skiles."
The implications were: 1. Although I'm dodging your question, NO, he's not getting more playing time; 2. I expect the team to respond to my nicer personality; 3. even though I'll be implementing a lot of Skiles' ideas.
He did, however, state that the team would be emphasizing getting out on the break more, so that was a welcome development.
This might be where the ground rules come in. Like for example, he might get to just take a pass on certain questions with no negative consequences. Remember, the Bulls hold all the leverage, otherwise why would they agree to the scrutiny that would come with this kind of thing?
As you point out, Big D, it's not as if he could say "We're hugely disappointed in Tyrus and we can't get rid of him soon enough. But every team in the league is lowballing us, so we're screwed." Or, "As soon as we get a few wins under our belt, we'll start playing him more. But we can't trust him at such a crucial stretch of the season. Pax made a mistake taking this kid, because he makes too many mental mistakes." Or even, "Pax and I made a deal. The first few games are for me to pad my win total. Plus, it's Pax who wants to send this kid a message, not me."
These are just a few of the gems I'd love for him to say. Yeah, there's no way he's answering Tyrus Thomas questions on the record.
by bullhockey on Jan 3, 2008 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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