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Open Game Thread #39: Bulls vs. Detroit Pistons

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[Thanks to NittanyBull for the last-ditch game thread. I had someone scheduled but looks like it isn't up. Am I the only one just hoping that smilin' Jimmy Boylan finally sees that things are no better under his watch? I'm sick of hearing that myth. -Matt]

Game starts at 8:30 p.m.(30 minutes from this post). Since no else has posted one up, I thought I might as well.

I believe that Chicago has won all of their matchups(a whopping two games) against the Pistons, and lets hope they make it three.

What I'd like to see(what would you like to see?):

  • Noah & Thomas chiming 28 minutes combined.
  • Wallace to only have 25 minutes.
  • For the Bulls to win(man I'm just full of wit).
God I hate Detrioters.

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The number of minutes TT will play before committing his second foul.  4:01
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 7:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You're over?
What's your number?
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 7:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What?
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 7:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I worded it awkwardly.
I meant to say that, to me, Tyrus can never commit a foul.
Ahh, that's better.

by philosoball on Jan 19, 2008 7:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha
"So foul and fair a day....."
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 7:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Getting a third straight win
over Deet would seem highly unlikely, especially since Tyrus' contribution was critical in one victory, and there's no chance of something similar happening now, right?

by marionette on Jan 19, 2008 7:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Attendence may be light tonight.
UC isn't that full. It's freezing out. So damn cold.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 19, 2008 7:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

So damn cold
over/under on the number of pipes that freeze in my house tonight is currently at 3
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 7:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

HA!!
Hey warden come warm my pipes!!
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 7:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Deng not dressed?
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 19, 2008 7:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Deng is out for tonights game
with that damned tendonitis in his ankle.

by philosoball on Jan 19, 2008 7:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Grrrrrr.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 19, 2008 7:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

achilles
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 7:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like you might get your wish
Duh's played well tonight though, it's a shame to see any injury even the Duh experience.  Duhon lost us yesterday's game (Well Boylan did buy continuing to keep Duh on Baron Davis (where Baron just outmuscled Duh all night)......

by majoyenrac on Jan 19, 2008 9:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Minutes
for  Thabo as the game wears on
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 7:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

achilles
So the phrase "that's his achilles heal" takes on the literal sense, eh?

Prolly gonna see this off and on the rest of the season.

At least Kirk is suited up.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 7:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No Deng tonight
This season gets better and better

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 19, 2008 7:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Kirk is activated
but still a game time decision.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 7:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

No Deng, is
Kirk out too? I'm wondering if Deng's ankle will bother him all season now.
Yes, the game is on in Iowa.

by sue369 on Jan 19, 2008 7:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wondering and worrying.
These coaches always do this. They'll play a guy who missed practice/shoot around 40+, trying to get that win. Then he misses X games after...and the cycle continues.

by marionette on Jan 19, 2008 7:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

gotta trust the veterans
without them the team would've completely fallen apart in the 2nd half last night. Oh, wait...

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ok, that's my last annoying cynical post
of the night. promise.

Boylan sucks.

(that was the real last one)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2008 7:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

annoying cynical post
Matt -
It's okay to be annoying and cynical....
Really...    :-)
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 8:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You actually
think that was completely falling apart???  That was missed FTs and getting beaten by Davis.  It happens
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 7:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty sure I called this last night.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Jan 19, 2008 8:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

At least the Bulls have been playing well lately
That's what Jim Boylan said in the Trib, so it must be true.

by Big D on Jan 19, 2008 7:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

that's awful
if his standards are that low, he shouldn't be a coach in the NBA.  

by Freethefro on Jan 19, 2008 7:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tyrus doesn't even look interested
during warm-ups.

I actually feel sympathy for him. He seems completely detached.

Oh well.

We'll see what happens tonight.

My wife wouldn't attend the game because of the weather, but at least I have the fanatics here. Blogs are indispensible during bad seasons. LOL.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 19, 2008 7:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

With Deng out
he'll at least get some minutes, even out-of-position.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2008 7:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

At the 2.5
or the 3.5?  

by Freethefro on Jan 19, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you see 82games.com
It has him at "0%" for playing SF. His top 10 lineups (all with 12 minutes) have him with at least two of Gordon/Hinrich/Duhon and Nocioni or Deng. So maybe he's not playing that much 3 at all. Well, he's not playing much anything at all.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Jan 19, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

so what are these
"watch on the internet" feeds I keep hearing about.  Does anyone have a URL?

by Freethefro on Jan 19, 2008 7:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

We always seem to play Detroit tough
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 7:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

LOL!! Duhon knocked down
chest-butting on player intros.

And to think Gordon is smaller than him even.

by marionette on Jan 19, 2008 7:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I was at the UC last night
and Du had that happen yesterday too!!  Hilarious!!
Why don't you crack an egg of knowledge all over me, buddy.

by MarketMaker on Jan 19, 2008 7:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, well I'm so excited about this game
I could just shit.
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 7:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

At least
Thabo is playing and maybe we will see him with Kirk
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 7:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

And the first thing Du does is leave his man
and swish...

And the offense is already non existant

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 7:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

We've
started 1-7
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 7:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nocioni better shoot every time right now
Because no one else in this starting lineup is going to score worth a damn.

by Big D on Jan 19, 2008 7:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The last thing I want to see
Is Noc chucking at will because he got the start.

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 19, 2008 7:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Noc sez
no problemo

by Freethefro on Jan 19, 2008 7:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Duhon blows
He is killing us
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 7:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I say bring in Gray an let him hack sheed
until he fouls out.

Maybe that will piss sheed off and screw up his game...
'Cuz it's a cinch that BW ain't gonna stop anyone tonight...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 7:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

BW is on McDyess
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I know
I was speaking of Wallace's play down low in general
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 7:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The bench
Where Du belongs
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 7:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Boylan may keep saying he won't bench Du
and start Thabo, but he sure seems to be pulling Du from the game earlier and earlier.
"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 19, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he will come around
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 7:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

slow but he's not blind
No, he's ignorant....literally
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 7:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

what's the line
about people in glass houses?
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 7:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Shouldn't throw stones
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 8:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow....clever...
I wonder if he came up with that all by himself
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 8:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Shhhh
if people figure that out that's one less thing they have to bitch about.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 7:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure
pulled him early last night

by JeffD on Jan 19, 2008 8:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, so here we go with Kirk and Thabo
in together
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 7:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Joe Smith
To draw a comparison besides the obvious, that Step back fadeaway was KG-esque.

by Seth on Jan 19, 2008 7:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Is it me
or does BW look disinterested?
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 7:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wallace not into it?
Umm....he's only looked that way...umm...
just about all season....
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 7:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like BG dribbles and turns the ball over
just about everytime he comes in.
Just did it again....
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 7:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Bwahaha!
Hey - he ALMOST did...  LOL
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 8:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Did I hear
Noah and TT checked in?
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 8:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

the crowd is so loud
I can hear people having a conversation in the background.

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 19, 2008 8:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I refresh
and not a single comment about wallace throwing it down on Maxiell's punk ass?
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 8:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

We're
still in shock
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 8:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

makes the rest of the season
that much more frustrating.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 8:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, does he play for us these days?
Sometimes I have trouble remembering...
"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 19, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wallace throwing it down on Maxiell's punk ass
If he did that all the time like he SHOULD, instead of only when he's in a pissing match with his old team, then he might get a little credit.
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 8:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

no argument with that
but it was on Maxiell, an archenemy for bulls fans everywhere.  That's got to be worth something...
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 10:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

welcome back kirk
I missed seeing you race down to brick a jumper

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2008 8:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

His slump continues
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 8:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bwahaha
Now THAT'S funny!!    :-)
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 8:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hinrich should think about layups
and passing and forego the long jumpers for a while...
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 8:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

john paxson and staff need to go..
the coaches need to get the bigs Noah/Wallace/Gray/Thomas  to do like 100 sky hook shots with the left hand and 100 with the right hand every day in practice.its all they should be doing... esp thomas with his jumping ablitly if he could develop a jump hook but he thinks he gonna become Kobe byrant or something

by Dr0ne420 on Jan 19, 2008 8:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Did Thabo do something wrong?
(Sincere question - gamecast shows him doing well)

by Freethefro on Jan 19, 2008 8:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You haven't heard about getting Du his minutes?
"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 19, 2008 8:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Pax may need
to trade Du in order for Thabo to get minutes
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Lightning without any thunder.
Kirk crossover to basket twice quickly. It appears someone has orders to take it to basket or is nervous that he could lose starting job to someone with size. Gotta admit he has a great move, but he can't finish with any thunder.

by BiNgO on Jan 19, 2008 8:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Its the over
Thomas goes 4:10 with only 1 foul.  Progress
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 8:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

When
he's able to play better than I think I'll  see that he's playing better
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

or
when he plays period....maybe when hell freezes over, oh wait it is up here in Green Bay.

by goldengod on Jan 19, 2008 8:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

All things
considered that wasn't a bad stretch for Thomas given his recent   history.  Maybe he'll get another stint in the 3rd
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 8:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Tyrus gets swatted
way too much for someone with that kind of athleticism.  He just doesn't understand basic basketball - head and shoulder fakes, using the rim to shield your man.  Even freaks like Amare and Shaq have to fake, fake - then explode.  Tyrus only knows "jump high dunk hard."  Either he's not being coached, or he's not listening.  

by Freethefro on Jan 19, 2008 8:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Rather
watch that then a guy shooting airball layups like wallace.  True Tyrus would be better off if he learned how to use his body better to get those contact fouls and reduce getting blocked...but still, its better than the atlernative.

by goldengod on Jan 19, 2008 8:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Gordon Lackluster D
What is up with BG hanging around with his thumb up his arse leaving guys wide open for 3pters?

by BiNgO on Jan 19, 2008 8:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Du and BG in together
and the other team starts pulling away.

The same as last night....
AND the night before....

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 8:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

C'mon coach
Gordon and Du??? Too much of this. If DET doesn't post 'em up, they don't stop the 3s anyway!! Now we're falling behind.

by marionette on Jan 19, 2008 8:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thabo's back
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 8:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thabo's back
and is it just a coincidence that the Bulls just tied the game with 7 straight points?

Umm....nope.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 8:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

TT bust!
So far Scottie Pippen's analysis is correct of TT.  He is a great player from the neck down. 3 horrible shots taken by him.

by BiNgO on Jan 19, 2008 8:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What
the hell do you expect when he gets jerked around like he does?

by JeffD on Jan 19, 2008 8:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He's
a victim.  Its true
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just curious how you felt
about Chandler before he got traded.

by philosoball on Jan 19, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So
what you are saying is you think it helps a players development to have to look over his shoulder every time he makes a mistake, knowing that he could get pulled and not see the court for 3 games?

by JeffD on Jan 19, 2008 8:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think
a player demonstrating that he's developing actually helps his development.  This idea that poor and distracted play should get rewarded with more play stretches credulity.  He wont be getting a perfect opportunity so he can either make the best of what he gets or find another job.
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 9:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Take a look
at Tyrus' game log this year and last.  Look at his production when he gets 20 minutes.  Look at his +/- ratings.  He has proven that when given minutes he can be productive.

It seems to me that when he gets consistent minutes, his play is not poor or distracted.  The poor or distracted play is a result of the inconsistent minutes.

by JeffD on Jan 19, 2008 9:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I tried that.
People don't like arguments that are contrary to what they already believe.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Jan 19, 2008 9:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

or it proves
that with the right matchups, he's effective and the coaches go back to him.  And when he isn't, they bench him.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 9:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He
has to be able TO KEEP  HIMSELF IN THE GAME.  If he can't be productive on the court for 20 minutes then thats his fault.  Not Skiles or Boylan or Pax or anybody but him.  Why can you guys  not process that??  

If you're point is that he needs 20 minutes or more a night to play well then you might as  well kiss the guy good-bye.

Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 9:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why can you not process
the fact that when he gets minutes he plays well?  The whole point that everyone is trying to make to you is that he gets yanked to soon.  So he has a bad first 2 minutes... Gordon, Noc, Smith, etc. have never had a bad first 2 minutes off the bench?  The point is, they don't get yanked, they are given an opportunity to play through it.  Thomas is not... he gets to sit on the bench for 2 games.  You think its easy to play when you know if you screw up you may not get another chance in that game?

by JeffD on Jan 19, 2008 9:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you've got it backwards
when he plays well, he gets minutes.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 9:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That doesn't explain
why he gets yanked and banished so much quicker than anyone else.  You can really tell in 2 minutes how he's going to play?

by JeffD on Jan 19, 2008 9:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

how about
because he is the third string PF?  How much time do you really want to give that guy?
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 9:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

should've never lost his starting job
at least not at the point he did (6 games into the season)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2008 10:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

they fucking went back to him for another 5 games
and he wasn't that good.  He got at least two chances...
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 10:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Check the stats.
He didn't produce like a superstar, but at 17 mpg, he did just fine. No reason not to play. He had one shitty game. Fuck that. That's straight bullshit to not get to play for one bad game.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Jan 19, 2008 10:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

But you know what
he did.  So you guys can cry and whine about  how unfair life has been to Thomas or you can judge him soley on how he plays.  Every night.  Not 2 out of 5 or that  one night he was really awesome and made ESPN highlights.  Every night every possession.  Couldn't be easier.
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 10:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If that is the standard
why are Duhon and Wallace still getting minutes, let alone starting?

by JeffD on Jan 19, 2008 10:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

boom
That's it guys.  Maybe you wish it were otherwise, maybe it should be otherwise but if you're paying any attention to the dynamic of this team then you have to realize that reality  and its not because Boylan is dumb or Skiles is an ass or Wallace is a pussy or Im mean to you.  
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 9:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wtf?
Obviously that is the dynamic of this team.  That is the problem.  What this boils down to is that for this team to be really good, Tyrus has to develop.  He is the only guy on the roster with the potential to be really special.  Maybe he won't be, but the Bulls are doing a shitty job of finding out.

by JeffD on Jan 19, 2008 9:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So.....
its reality that's the problem....???   Just trying to keep up here
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 10:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes
The reality that Thomas is on a much shorter leash than the veterans.  The reality that the Bulls are doing a crap job of developing their young guys.  That is the problem.  

No one has sucked as much as Duhon and Wallace this year, but you don't see them getting yanked after 2 minutes.  But the young guys?  One mistake and you're out for the game.

by JeffD on Jan 19, 2008 10:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jesus-minny
Yes. He is on a shorter leash.  Rookies are on a shorter lease than veterans EXCEPT on teams that are clearly  rebuilding.  The Bulls aren't at that point  so of-fucking-course-the-rookies-are-going-to-have-to-prove-themselves.   You can't possibly be receiving this as new information.
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 10:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's not true.
It's just not. Players who start get more minutes and more consistent minutes. It's a fact. When a guy starts, he's pretty much guaranteed 12 minutes a night almost no matter how bad he is doing.

See, the other thing that goes against your argument, well, the facts. How do these work?

Tyrus started and got a lot of minutes in the first five games. He had, arguably, the two best games of any Bull in the first five games. He also had a really shitty game, but still got 20 minutes (see how that works against your theory?). He had two "meh" games. About what you'd expect from a raw yet promising second-year player, no?

Then, in the sixth game, after a kickass game against Detroit, he only played 12 minutes. He wasn't playing well, but wasn't playing well. He got yanked for some reason in that game (someone should re-watch it) he got pulled. He probably didn't something really stupid. Then, he's no longer starting.

This is exactly where your argument fails. The first five games he had two of the best games of any Bulls player that early in the season. He also had bad games but still got the minutes. That's how starting works. Since then, he's played a lot less consistently and a lot less minutes. It has very little to do with his play except that he's given no slack. It's quite obvious to any discerning person, if he played more, his goods would outweigh his bads more often than not.

Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Jan 19, 2008 9:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Then they went back to starting him
for another 5 games and he was "meh" again.  How does that fit in your story?
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 9:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Meh?
A couple not so good games. One shitty game. No great games. But they weren't so 'meh'. Here's the stats in those games:

17.2 mpg
34% shoot
8/12 FT/FTA
11.16 /36
13.3 /36

Oh, and the team went 2-3. Basically, he needs to take better shots. Other than that, there's no argument he shouldn't be getting 20 minutes per game. If he were starting and getting 35 mpg, he'd be getting a double-double. So please, tell me how that's wrong. That includes his shitty game where he got yanked. I mean, that's only those five starting games. Those are his 'meh' averages.

He needs to start and get 25-30 mpg. It's a fact, Jack. Get over it.

Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Jan 19, 2008 10:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

what's your definition of "meh"
he didn't play well.  Increasing the minutes of inefficient players isn't going to help the bulls.

how do those numbers compare to Smith's and Noc's, the guys who are playing ahead of him?  If they are less efficient, then TT should ride the pine until his numbers get better.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 11:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Here is what you're missing
Thomas has not shown that he can produce at a consistent level. You guys keep  saying he played great last year in place of Deng but that is not the whole truth.   He played okay at times and like utter worthless shit at  other times.  Thats  just a fact.  So unless and until he is able to show the coaching staff that he can play through stupidity he isn't  going to  be given minutes unless  there is an injury.  Its too obvious
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 9:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I see you conveniently left out the times
he played great.  Of course he played like shit at times, he was a rookie.  All rookies play like shit at times.  Almost all second year players play like shit at times.  The only way they stop playing like shit is if they keep playing.

by JeffD on Jan 19, 2008 9:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong
I didn't leave out the times he played well.  You know what....?? You're right and Im wrong.  Its a vast conspiracy against Thomas and Im at the head of it.  He deserves to be given 30 minutes a night and any  observation to the contrary is heresy.  
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 10:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe??
You're equivocating?   How many  fucking minutes does the guy have  to be handed to get you  guys  to sleep at night?  
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 10:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oh, and at the 4, too.
if he spaces out so much it makes you pray to your  Ditka plaque, then Joe Smith jumshot away.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2008 10:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So you're on the record
now that tee-tee's on the same level as Deng, Noce, Smith, Gordon, and Hinrich.   You're saying that he's such a consistent guy that he gets minutes no matter what.   Right??  Even when the match-ups suck and even if we're in the penalty at the beginning of the second quarter we stick with tee-tee because he has such a long and rock solid history of consistent production that any blip in his+/- is sure  to be short lived.   So what if he spends 5 or six minutes a night with his head up his ass.  He's a proven commodity and thats just the price we pay for the awesome numbers  we can count on  night in and night out.

Okay. Got it.

Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 20, 2008 9:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thabo
was doing the same thing when he was "the victim", but he's gotten better with playing time.  Funny thing is Tyrus was getting better with playing time last year.  If you play 3 minutes a week, it's hard to play with confidence and rythm.  Did your girlfriend or wife cheat on you with Tyrus or something by the way?

by goldengod on Jan 19, 2008 8:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thabo
took advantage of an opportunity.  Tryus has yet  to demonstrate that he can.  Its really very very simple gentlemen, I don't know why so many  of you can't  resist the urge  to whine about it.
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 9:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

See above
Look at Tyrus' game logs when he gets 20 minutes.  He has proven he can be productive.  What is that if not 'taking advantage of an opportunity?'

by JeffD on Jan 19, 2008 9:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I realize you're new HERE
but I didn't know you just started watching the Bulls. So I guess it's not your fault you don't remember Tyrus having 5 times as many good games (although your rating system seems off regardless) as Thabo.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2008 9:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mathew
I know coming in and challenging your pets upsets the clubhouse but that's too bad for you.   Thomas hasn't demonstrated that he can play well with any  consistency.  If you wanna make the argument that he has then you should.
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 9:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe....
you could make your point or something
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 9:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We
actually have repeatedly giving reasons why he should play, not that he's great or anything but simply play and contribute which he has PROVEN he can do. Why not decrease some of BW minutes and Joe Smith's and play Tyrus?  What is the problem with that. Maybe he doesn't box out enough, or can't shoot as well as we'd like yet, or whatever, but he is still AT LEAST as good as the alternative and the team's future.  

by goldengod on Jan 19, 2008 9:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong
he isn't nearly as effective as Smith, nowhere near.   Im not  saying he doesn't have  as much talent as Smith its not worth the calories I burn typing this to compare what  the two can do night in and night out.
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 9:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If you don't understand
why it might be a good idea to play Thomas more and Smith less even though Thomas may not be as quite as effective every night, then there is no point in arguing.

by JeffD on Jan 19, 2008 10:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Holy shit
I'd LOVE to watch you try and make the point that Smith should  play less so Thomas could have his  minutes. I await your acumen.
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 10:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll try
because success of the team overall depends more on Tyrus being good than Joe Smith being good.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2008 10:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and
its not like they've had much success anyway.  Maybe having Joe Smith playing now will get them the 8th spot in a pretty terrible Eastern Conference in the playoffs...MAYBE...then get blown away in the first round.  By playing Tyrus and the other youngins more (not all of precious Joe Smiths minutes) at least the Bulls can A.) find out what they have in those guys and B.) allow them to learn in actual games, not just practice.  If it is at the expense of a few wins so what?  

by goldengod on Jan 19, 2008 10:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Also wrong
These guys are trying to get back to .500 and that aint happenin with Smith on the bench. You can mock that goal if you  want but you should  probably stop watching for awhile then because its clear thats what they're doing.

And.....

Where in the hell were you when Curry  and Chandler got handed minutes despite performance??   How well did that work out??  Please explain how that approach made those two more valuable to the team.  Are you honestly trying to make  the point that there isn't greater long-term value in tee-tee having to EARN the minutes he gets??  

Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 20, 2008 9:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The fundamental difference
Is that you are apparently happy with .500, the very definition of mediocrity.

We would rather trade guaranteed mediocrity for the chance at something great.

by JeffD on Jan 20, 2008 11:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong still
The fundamental, and I mean really fundamental, difference is that you think just putting a guy on the floor produces magical results.  Presto.  
Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 20, 2008 12:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

See?
It's like pixie dust I guess?
Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 20, 2008 12:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ok
#1 - What Matt said
#2 - If Smith keeps playing this much (32 mpg in Jan) he will be useless or unavailable in a month

by JeffD on Jan 19, 2008 10:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn't you be rooting for #2?
because that means a lot more minutes for TT.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 10:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just cause I want Tyrus to play more minutes
doesn't mean I don't think Smith is a valuable part of the team (especially if they make it to the playoffs)

I want the Bulls to win as much as possible, and it seems the best way for that to happen is to develop Thomas AND have a healthy Smith.

by JeffD on Jan 19, 2008 10:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So
the thrux of your point is that they guy  who is CLEARLY better than tee-tee right now ought to sit  down because he MIGHT get injured??   Thats dumb.  Please  tell me that after having thought about it for two seconds  you realize that is dumb.
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 20, 2008 9:05 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The first point is most important
and while Smith may not get injured, he will wear down.  Interesting that you call me dumb considering you have apparently never heard of the concept of limiting the minutes of a 32yo with bad knees.

Btw, your nicknames are very creative... will you post a diary with all the little nicknames you've come up with?

by JeffD on Jan 20, 2008 11:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Dumb
is limiting the pt of the guy  that       plays        better            because of an injury  he doesn't have yet.   Dumb.   Dumb-diddley-de-dumb-dumb.  Also not smart.
Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 20, 2008 12:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How are you not getting this
Joe Smith is old.  He has bad knees.  If he plays extended minutes, he gets worn out.  If he plays extended minutes over a long period of time, he gets worn out for a long period of time.  If he is worn out at the end of the year, he does us no good in the playoffs.  

Do you not understand the concept of age?  Do you really not understand the concept of limiting the minutes of a veteran, even if he still plays well in those minutes?  

by JeffD on Jan 20, 2008 12:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's what you can do
you  can go back over the last two or three seasons that Smith has played and look at his mpg.  and compare it with his production.   Get back to me on that one.
Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 20, 2008 12:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He's been averaging 31mpg this month
Which is roughly since Boylan took over.  He hasn't played that much since he was in his 20s

by JeffD on Jan 20, 2008 1:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He
is averaging 22 minutes a game this season which is well in his range and when you go back and look at game logs, even in years he was injured, there is no drop off in production late in the year.  

If the Bulls either drop out of the playoff hunt or look like they're going to be a solid middle seed then you'll probably see his minutes decline a bit which is fine with me but there is no justification for limiting the minutes of one of your best players while the team is in the midst of trying to make a run to save the season.  There is no issue here at all.  You guys are making this one up

Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 21, 2008 11:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Dumb
is limiting the pt of the guy  that       plays        better            because of an injury  he doesn't have yet.   Dumb.   Dumb-diddley-de-dumb-dumb.  Also not smart.
Sucking chest wound? Bench Wallace and start Noah

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 20, 2008 12:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How about
A) to try and win some games.  Or
B) to reinforce the idea in TT's head that he has to bring his A game every night if he wants minutes.  That's something that benefits both him and the bulls...
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 10:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he can't handle tough love :)
um...there's some puppy analogy Boylan can make here...

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2008 10:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He's
not as good as Smith, I was arguing that he should get some of he and Wallace's minutes, not all of them.  Sorry I didn't convey that the way I wanted to. What I meant by "alternative" is that it's better to use a young and usefull player like Thomas rather than to just let him rot on the bench; and he IS a better player than Wallace.  

by goldengod on Jan 19, 2008 10:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tyrus
also took advantage of an opportunity last year when Noc was out and when BW was out for a bit.  He started this year, but because Skiles wanted to shake up the lineup because of a lack of offense he sat him in favor of Noc who can at times shoot.  However, it really should have been BW who was benched but the Bulls have 60 million reasons not to bench him.  Tyrus' fate was sealed with that little quest for offense by Skiles.  

by goldengod on Jan 19, 2008 9:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

TT is showing signs of rust
Given the amount of minutes he's been playing lately, that is understandable.

The Bulls should try getting him some open 15-16 foot jump shots to help get his confidence back.

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 19, 2008 8:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

2 nice steals
for du
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 8:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Get the fuck out
that was a fall away from Wallace BTW
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 8:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What the hell
was that from Wallace?
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 8:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm really in the mood for a 'Sheed meltdown
tonight.  
"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 19, 2008 8:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

He has
three fouls
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by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 8:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice job by Wallace on that bailout
fadeaway as the shot clock expires, but it's gotta mean something when Aaron Gray and Joakim Noah are on the bench laughing after he makes that shot.
Why don't you crack an egg of knowledge all over me, buddy.

by MarketMaker on Jan 19, 2008 8:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I feel a suspension coming on...
How dare they disrespect a veteran like that?  I think they were just laughing because that's all he shoots in warmups and it finally paid off.
Why don't you crack an egg of knowledge all over me, buddy.

by MarketMaker on Jan 19, 2008 8:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I SO wish
that Wallace would play like this for the Bulls each and every game...
Or at least TRY to play like this each and every game....
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 8:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Its a bit sad
when 4 pts and 5 rebounds in a little less than a half is what we wish for

by JeffD on Jan 19, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I heard that.
The word "settling" comes to mind....   :-)
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the problem
is he can't because he is not good at basketball.

by goldengod on Jan 19, 2008 8:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and before some wise - ass flames me
yes I DO KNOW that Thabo is playing forward and not guard...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

when we put in our big guard
it's as an undersized small forward

by Freethefro on Jan 19, 2008 8:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Regardless of WHAT he plays
just him being on the floor makes the Bulls play that much better as a team right now.
And the score reflects that.
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 8:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 8:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wish I'd seen the game
sounds like it was fun.  Question for you guys - for Tyrus to play more, who plays less?  We seem overloaded with forwards, and I'd like to see more of Noah before the year's out.  We know Wallace will play his 25 minutes of blah each night - so who would we sit?

by Freethefro on Jan 19, 2008 10:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wow
Hermann is one handsome man of a woman
Pax on, Pax off!

by Beef Wennington on Jan 19, 2008 8:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What's Kirk bitching about?
He clearly shoved Herrmann...
Not saying that Herrmann didn't deserve it, of course...     :-)
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 8:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Kirk is a whiny bitch.
Which just makes my Blog-A-Bull experience that much more ironic.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Jan 19, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And I still like Kirk, actually.
He just needs to quit crying and get good again.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Jan 19, 2008 8:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How can Gordon make that
stop-on-a-dime 8ft floater, THEN that impossible +1, and miss so many free/clear layups????

by marionette on Jan 19, 2008 8:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Good half.
Decent playing time for Thabo/Noah/Tyrus.

Hinrich still looks inneffectual on offense.

Cracks me up that this Bulls team always play well against Detroit. The Pistons don't look like a very good team.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 19, 2008 8:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

We had good energy - played well
Now for the typical, painful second half

by chgobr on Jan 19, 2008 8:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Question for second half is...
will Boylan get flustered like a little girl and return to a vets only rotation?
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 19, 2008 8:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

oh, count on it
the guy coaches 2nd half leads with two hands around his own neck

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2008 8:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sooooo Boooooring
compared to last night. But are Trib/Boylan right? Are they playing better?

Watch out for Billups victimizing Duhon in 2nd half.

by marionette on Jan 19, 2008 8:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Looks like the Pistons have gone into their
annual "don't give a shit" mode.  They'll play this way for the next few months, then in April they'll start caring again, and everyone will immediately anoint them as the favorites in the East.  They'll then choke in the playoffs yet again, when Rasheed Wallace flips and gets thrown out of a big game.

by Big D on Jan 19, 2008 8:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hahah
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez

by NittanyBull on Jan 19, 2008 8:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice first half.
Can we just skip the 3rd quarter and just go to the 4th? Please no melt down in the 3rd.
Yes, the game is on in Iowa.

by sue369 on Jan 19, 2008 8:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

For Realz.
We can agree on that. Amen, sista.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Jan 19, 2008 9:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

BG should come off the bench
for the rest of his time in Chicago.
And I say that in a good way.
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 9:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Noc has 3 fouls now
TT time?
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 9:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

No
he doesn't have enough GRIT!

by goldengod on Jan 19, 2008 9:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn
Wallace hit another jumper
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by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 9:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Classic
BG turns it over, then Du sticks his hand in for a stupid and-one foul

ugh

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 9:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The stupidest foul I have,..ever..
Was he picking lint off of Jersey?

by Seth on Jan 19, 2008 9:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you misread that
he has 19 minutes, 3 points and 7 rebounds
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez

by NittanyBull on Jan 19, 2008 9:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I only caught a glimpse
thought it seemed a little "off"...

Thanks for the heads-up   :-)

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 9:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They're
both  better teams
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 9:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Here comes the collapse
pissed-ons on a 12-3 run.

Kirk is being SCHOOLED by Billups

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 9:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Some might have thought Kirk
would be rusty, but he was able to pick up dumb fouls 30 feet from the basket like he never left.
Why don't you crack an egg of knowledge all over me, buddy.

by MarketMaker on Jan 19, 2008 9:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Notes:
-Duhon's 3 for 3. Gasp.
-Thabo has as many rebounds as Ben Wallace.
-Why is our offense so unbalanced? Gordon has 20 points, Noc 16, and then there's ... 7,6,4, etc. Also ... not too many assists, at all.
Blah, I wish I could watch, but our TV that has cable is stolen from me today. I've been watching GameCast.

by Prevenge on Jan 19, 2008 9:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

our TV that has cable is stolen from me today
Wifey watching Oprah again?   :-)
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 9:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Close,
I live with my parents [because I'm cheap]. They're watching ... something that's making them laugh, maybe Smokin' Aces [they were talking about it earlier].
I really wish I could see it though, looks like Thabo is really improving a lot [from the comments].

by Prevenge on Jan 19, 2008 9:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Assists seem low for both teams
"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 19, 2008 9:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish the Bulls
would put Thabo on Billups.

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 19, 2008 9:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hinrich really hurting us tonight.
Poor defense, many fouls, no offense.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 19, 2008 9:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Man, I left for the end of the Kansas-Missouri gam
and look what you guys let happen while I was gone!  Some things you can just count on, like a lead never being safe with the Bulls.
"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 19, 2008 9:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

a lead never being safe with the Bulls.
Lately, it's been if the Bulls are up at the half, you better be worried.
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 9:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't only after Kirk was hurt?
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Jan 19, 2008 9:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

true
but at least when he gets out there now he's not afraid to shoot, a difference from his time with Skiles

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2008 10:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if
We will see Tyrus again
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 9:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Matt Harpring didn't win in college.
Shane Battier went to Duke. And is gritty. And sweats a lot. And is a role player. And not that good.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Jan 19, 2008 9:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He's not that bad
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 9:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hear he's a solid lockerroom guy
with leadership and other vet intangibles.
"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 19, 2008 9:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

if that means all the ignorant TT fanbois go too
then I might be in favor.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 9:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You would be.
I dislike people who wish the team was worse. It's sad. You probably like Ryan Theriot, huh?
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Jan 19, 2008 9:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd only be in favor
if all of the fanbois went.  Kind of like a salary dump.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 9:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess you would like Cedeno to be in SS
or how about trade back to Izturis? Jesus

Don't put baseball into this website, please.

"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez

by NittanyBull on Jan 20, 2008 3:10 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone forgot to tell the kids
that this is the point where the Bulls give up.  
"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 19, 2008 9:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

That's funny
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 9:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Girl Scouts have a new cookie.
Cinnaspins. I like cinnamon. Oooohhhh boy.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Jan 19, 2008 9:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Sefolosha:is a big talent
Spending 2 years in the doghouse, I feel sorry for this guy.

by runio on Jan 19, 2008 9:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

If loving Thabo is wrong...
Then I don't want to be right
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by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 9:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want to see
Du shoot the three
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by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 9:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Is anyone else really scared...
Seeing Duhon in the game in the 4th. Just please, take him out so we have half a chance.

by BoxingHideout on Jan 19, 2008 9:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Du hurt his knee
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 9:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Now I feel bad
that I was just talking about how he needs to come out.

by BoxingHideout on Jan 19, 2008 9:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And he's still down
that looked bad...
I would be surprised if that isn't an ACL injury...

I don't wanna see ANYONE get hurt like THAT...
Ouch.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 9:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What happened?
Is it bad?

Never like to see an injury, even for Du.

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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 19, 2008 9:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hit knees w/ Billups
sliding with him on def. Looks bad.

by marionette on Jan 19, 2008 9:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thx
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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 19, 2008 9:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes
Thabo better keep playing well, because they're going to be very thin in the backcourt if Duhon's out for any length of time.

by Big D on Jan 19, 2008 9:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was just a knee to knee at first
which hurts like hell, and will be tender, but isn't a big deal.  It looks like it might be more than that though.
Why don't you crack an egg of knowledge all over me, buddy.

by MarketMaker on Jan 19, 2008 9:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

It was a knee to knee
but Du's knee was planted and Billups' knee hit it in full stride, with his knee cap in the bent and "strength" position...

Du's knee clearly buckled, which again makes me think ACL

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 9:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't just knee to knee
but the angle, going right across.

by marionette on Jan 19, 2008 9:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

NOAH
just TAKES it away!
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 9:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Noah!
Is the man. He needs more minutes, he just makes things happen out there.

by BoxingHideout on Jan 19, 2008 9:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Noah
Is not backing down from Sheed
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 9:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Careful - The game isn't over
and the piss-ons owned US when it counted....
In the playoffs.
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 9:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

True, but that just makes it
all the stranger that we are having this much success against them and tonight even without Deng.

by philosoball on Jan 19, 2008 9:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I like our energy
2 straight nights in 2 back to backs, I know yesterday was a tough loss, but we came out blazing and played hard, so that's all you can ask....

I wish we played Detroit and Miami every other night, we always get big efforts from this team against these 2 teams.

Why did the Thabo yr 2 have to wait this long, he's looking great of late, a little offensively challenged still, but just solid.  He's our starting SG/PG for the rest of the season if I was the coach, he can defend among the best, dribble, board, pass and occasionally shoot.....Maybe with Duh out we'll get our wish, although I hate seeing that injury.

WHY NO TYRUS????  I love seeing more Thabo and Noah, but Tyrus is a fun player to watch.

Nocioni's our team MVP, BTW all you Blogabull Noc haters....

Also, Noah's D of Rasheed a second ago was one of the only time Rasheed did his unstoppable fade shots that was stopped because of hte D.

I hope regardless of our record this year we continue to play hard like we have the last 3 games (I almost forgot about Miami because that looked like a video game matchup).

This team is fun again when they play hard, even if we're not championship contenders, this kind of energy proves we can be dangerous in any game.....

by majoyenrac on Jan 19, 2008 9:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

funny part about Thabo
play.

If not for Hinrich injury, Thabo never gets these minutes.

We'd still be talking about Thabo bust.

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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 19, 2008 9:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

wrong
Thabo was getting minutes before.  It wouldn't have happened as quickly, but it was going to happen.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 9:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I believe
you're right sooner or later the mandate would have come down to play him
TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 19, 2008 9:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Total horseshit.
Max minutes that Thabo got in four games before injury was 13.

He got that two times. Two other times he got like 6 and 4.

Averaging like 8. After injury, averaging over 20.

There was no upward trend. You are full of shit. Look it up.

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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 19, 2008 9:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but bullshitter knows it all
so you must be wrong...  :-)
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 9:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

no upward trend?
he wasn't playing before skiles was fired.  
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 19, 2008 9:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You actually
might be right.  But lets not pretend that any of  us KNEW Thabo was going to break out like this in these games.
Global warming? Bench Wallace and start Noah.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 19, 2008 9:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You are right
and it show that us, and Bulls management, doesn't always know what will happen when a player gets consistent minutes.  I mean, Sefalosha looked much, much worse than Thomas up to this point.  Yet, given consistent minutes, he has started to show what he can do.  Hmmm...

by JeffD on Jan 19, 2008 10:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Where is Rip Hamilton?
Being shut down by Thabo!

by BiNgO on Jan 19, 2008 9:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Where is Ben Wallace?
hehehe....ON THE BENCH...
where he belongs with Noah playing like he is.

Wonder if his detwat buddies give him any flak about that...    :-)

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 9:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice to see Noah out there for Wallace in the 4th
Hopefully this is the start of a trend.

by Big D on Jan 19, 2008 9:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

How was that a foul on Kirk?
that detwat played stumbled in front of him....
geesh...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 19, 2008 9:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
Noah making huge impact in the paint.  Offensive and defensive rebounding, stealing by fighting for ball and ripping it away, blocking people out, and setting screens.

by BiNgO on Jan 19, 2008 9:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs