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How can Mike Sweetney still help?

[Well, Sweetney's qualifying offer may not even exist, according to RealGM. Rasberries]

Yeah, not much going on lately. But I've been thinking about that last roster spot and wondering what exactly is happening with Mike Sweetney. While whoever is in that spot may not be useful anyway, is it possible that Sweets and his qualifying offer can provide value even if he just sits on the bench and eats whole icecream cakes the entire season?

(I actually think he could be useful, but he's been in Skiles' doghouse for so long he likely made it his billing address. And the Bulls like their bigs to move and flop around, so it's just not a good fit. If he does get let go I'll write a more fitting obit)

The news on Sweetney has been sparse all offseason. He's been mentioned on a couple blogs, and the last Bulls related reference was from Paul Ledewski of the Southtown:

The Bulls made a $3.7 million qualifying offer to retain his rights, but the veteran center has no role in the master plan.

So what does that exactly mean?

In order to make their free agent a restricted free agent, a team must submit a qualifying offer to the player by June 30. The qualifying offer must be for one season.  A player can elect to accept his qualifying offer (the qualifying offer must be accepted by March 1) and play the following season under its terms. A team can withdraw its qualifying offer to a restricted free agent, in which case the player becomes unrestricted.

I've read no news that the qualifying offer has been pulled, so I'm guessing the waiting game is still out there to see if Sweets gets an offer sheet anywhere.

But maybe it'd be the best for both sides to just accept the qualifying offer. Sweetney gets a nice payday (hoopshype says the qualifying offer is for $3,654,375), and that salary now also becomes a coveted expiring contract to trade midseason.

...sort of:

Generally, a player cannot be traded until three months after signing a contract or December 15th of that season, whichever is later. In addition, if the player is playing under a one-year contract and will have Larry Bird or Early Bird rights at the end of the contract, he can't be traded without his consent.  If consent is granted and the player is traded, then he loses his Larry Bird or Early Bird rights, and enters free agency as a Non-Bird free agent.

So it's not like a typical expiring deal, clearly. But the trade consent and waiving of Bird rights may not be that difficult given a player of Sweetney's stature, as it's not likely he'd make more than the MLE anyway in a future deal.

The contract may come in handy, since the Bulls already used their MLE on Joe Smith, this is their best way to get another big contract. Then between Sweetney, Duhon, and Khryapa, that'd  be over $8.8m in expiring money to add to a prospect (or better, if the Bulls are going after a big fish) for a midseason deal.

It's an idea, anyway. I suppose it borders on cap circumvention, but if the player signs the deal then everyone should seemingly be happy. Deals and signings are made for cap reasons all the time so this isn't much different. But it reminds me of the idea floated by Bill Simmons (among others) that the Bulls should've tried to 'roll over' PJ Brown's expiring contract so they had another big trading peace for this offseason. Like, say, a deal last year sending PJ for Kurt Thomas (who makes similar money although he was signed for this coming season). Sure, it makes sense, but then the implication that you're trading for a guy with the clear intention to deal him a season later....just seems odd. But that's they way the NBA is these days, an era where lonely bloggers can look up Salary Cap rules and dream up situations where Mike Sweetney gets paid.

(for more of my cap ruminations, I had some fun at Celticsblog on Thursday as well)

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Paul ledewski was wrong
The transaction list at RealGM says the Bulls declined to make Sweets a qualifying offer:

The Chicago Bulls tendered a qualifying offer to Andre Barrett making him a restricted free agent

The Chicago Bulls tendered a qualifying offer to Andres Nocioni making him a restricted free agent

The Chicago Bulls declined to tender a qualifying offer to Martynas Andriuskevicius making him an unrestricted free agent.

The Chicago Bulls declined to tender a qualifying offer to Mike Sweetney making him an unrestricted free agent.

June transaction list at Real GM

Not to say Sweetney couldn't be helpful once this year, but I don't think he's coming back under any circumstances.  Some early after season end news reports mentioned him working out in Vegas for teams.  

by KT on Aug 10, 2007 5:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Can't see sweets on the roster
Like the creative cap massaging though.  you dont need one monster contract to make a big trade.  its harder but it can be done with a group of smaller contracts.

by haze on Aug 10, 2007 6:31 AM CDT reply actions  

I hope he gets in shape
Sweetney was a good player prior to last season, and he could easily stick around in the NBA if he gets control of the extra weight. On a related note, how is Skiles going to handle all the power forwards who can actually rebound the ball good? Crying, and watching videos of Cliff Robinson?

by hscs on Aug 10, 2007 10:04 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm sure
Sweetney is a very nice guy but for the life of me I couldn't understand why he didn't try to get in shape. He must not be able to get motivated enough to do it. He did help us in a few games but he was mostly in Skile's and Paxson's dog house this past season.

by sue369 on Aug 10, 2007 1:08 PM CDT reply actions  

i doubt that
he just didn't TRY to get in shape.  I'm sure he tried.  For whatever reason it didn't work out (obviously)...but you can't assume that he didn't try.  Some guys just try harder than others.

I think your second sentence was more on the head...probably more motivation than trying.

Case in point - Eddy.  When he really got motivated and put his mind to it, he lost the weight.  Granted, he didn't keep it off, but he got it off at least for a little while.

by ScottieCartwright on Aug 10, 2007 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Money is usually a great motivator
If he couldn't get in shape last season, when he had millions of dollars riding on having a good season, then he'll never get in shape.  It's not a coincidence that the year Eddy lost some of that weight happened to be the last year of his contract.

by Big D on Aug 10, 2007 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

finally followed the Celtics link
I would rather have Reggie Miller then Posey. Why would we rather have posey. I dont get it. If you can add a future hall of famer with tons of playoff experience who is still in good enough shape to come in and shoot, whats the downside?

IRON law! That was an extreme one, but I'm surprised so many have talked themselves into Reggie Miller as a good addition to the team. Is Mitch Richmond still alive?

by hscs on Aug 11, 2007 11:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Part II of I'm happy I'm not from New England
I will say this: yes, I'd prefer James Posey to Reggie Miller, Scottie Pippen, or Allan Houston and P.J. Brown to Charles Oakley or Karl Malone.  I'd also prefer Brevin Knight to Gary Payton.  But if none of my preferences are realistic options, I'll any of these old timers over nothing.

At worst they're useless; at best they're valuable contributors to a championship run.

I think "at best they're useless" is a little more apt. In another Miller discussion thread 'pearljammer10' (was 'templeofthedoc' taken?) said, "He'd be a good veteran presence in the locker room and a decent mentor to the big three."

by hscs on Aug 12, 2007 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

chauncey effect
That bastard.  If it's true that billups talked him into it (as the link above states) that is complete bullshit.  I am sure Billups prefers he go to boston than to chicago who the pistons would have to face more often.  Oh wait, this is friendly advice right? BS.

by Sambossanova on Aug 12, 2007 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw that too
clever on Chauncey's part.
Pushing comments to the right for a while now!!!-------------------->

by bullshooter on Aug 12, 2007 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

not clever enough to keep him
in the other conference. At least Ray Allen is going to keep Rip Hamilton out of the All-Star game.

by hscs on Aug 12, 2007 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't Count Out
Ben Gordon.  If he has a great first half, he's got a chance at it.
Get that out of Tyrus' House!!!!

by cubbybear on Aug 12, 2007 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm only counting out Rip
Carter, and Ray Allen are shoe-ins for a lot of votes at shooting guard. Don't keep your hopes up.

by hscs on Aug 13, 2007 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

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