How I will talk myself into liking whatever Pax does.
I fully admit that I'm not much of a scout. So while I certainly read a lot of scouting reports on the players reportedly on the Bulls radar, it's hard to figure out which players are actually right for the Bulls. They're all 'right' if Pax tells me so. He's seen them work out, after all. Oh, and he's better at this than I am.
If Joakim Noah is the selection, I'll assume Pax didn't think Hawes or Yi were near ready, and size trumped the idea of taking best player available. If it's Green or Wright, I'll figure Pax doesn't think any of the big men are any good, so he decided to take the best player regardless of if they duplicate what Luol Deng does. If he takes Yi (or Brandan Wright), maybe the idea is the Bulls don't plan on picking this high for a while so take the shot at the highest upside. If he takes Spencer Hawes I'll think Pax saw Hawes school Noah in their workout and determined not only are the skills there but the body and athleticism too. If he takes Mike Conley I'll certainly be confused, but otherwise ecstatic over a possible major deal in the future. If he trades out I'll assume everybody available was unimpressive.
I don't have a strong feeling about any of these guys (trading up for Hortford notwithstanding), so whoever Pax likes I'll like. It may not fit into the "I have a sports blog and an opinion, damnit!" mantra of the web, but such is the case when not only has the GM made some shrewd picks, but tough-to-predict ones as well. Pax has a rep for making 'safe' picks from the pool of college 'winners', but I don't see much of a pattern; I've actually been quite surprised with the way he's picked over the years. He's taken Hinrich when his roster already had a point guard, taken Ben Gordon #3 which just weeks before the draft it seemed way too high. Taken the raw Tyrus Thomas when there were more polished offensive players available. Taken Thabo Sefolosha who was out of the 'whoever was in the Final Four that year' mold of previous drafts.
There's no cut and dry mold for the players in this draft. Because some guys are labeled 'ready' and others 'projects', it's a gray area to determine how much of an impact a ready player can bring, or how much time a project needs. Tyrus Thomas was thought of as a project but he was certainly an impact player by the time the season was through. That same philosophy could be in play again, but however Pax goes I'll probably be nodding in agreement regardless.
Bonus links:
- SBNation mock draft is entering the second round over at Bullets Forever.
- I participated in yet another mock draft over at SportProjections.com. This was more of a 'who will they take' type of thing, and I predicted the Bulls go with Noah.
- Yet another blog-driven mock draft. Although I sat this one out.
- Mock draft (and other subjects) podcast I participated in Sunday morning, along with a couple other bloggers. I thought the voice quality was good this time, although the usual trappings of cell phone still produced some static. As far as the content I provided, I'll let you be the judge.
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by sue369 on Jun 24, 2007 8:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sue will be the one
by SRQman on Jun 24, 2007 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Naw,
by sue369 on Jun 25, 2007 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do Iowans vacation in Northern Minnesota
How far north are you? I've got relatives all over the Iron Range.
by KT on Jun 25, 2007 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
by sue369 on Jun 25, 2007 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
watch out for Babe
by KT on Jun 26, 2007 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The "P" is incorrect
by KT on Jun 26, 2007 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with Sue
by KT on Jun 24, 2007 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least it's not horse racing
Bilas doesn't get in depth. He just checks off cliches that he thinks fit.
by cubbybear on Jun 24, 2007 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a scientific fact.
It's really all you need to know about them. :)
by wjb1492 on Jun 24, 2007 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt
by bu11s on Jun 24, 2007 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
uh, yeah, I said that
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2007 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No strong feelings about any
by Bayern Munich on Jun 24, 2007 10:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
scola bad news
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2134
I was really wishing.
by Sambossanova on Jun 24, 2007 11:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude that Podcast is putting me to sleep.
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 24, 2007 11:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Suns are rumored in a three way
Boston gets Marion
T-Wolves get I think the 5th and other crap.
Suns get KG
But Marion dosn't wana play for Boston. Poor Celtics.
The tools article http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-070624smith,1,5654789.column?coll =cs-bulls-headlines
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 25, 2007 12:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
boston
It's too bad cause they dont have a bad team and I think they could definitely make a run for the atlantic division title...which isnt much.
by Sambossanova on Jun 25, 2007 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marcus Camby???
"The Bulls are said to be shopping their No. 9 pick and Denver's Marcus Camby is a possibility, with the Nuggets likely to cut payroll by making Camby available. The deal would have to include P.J. Brown in a sign-and-trade for one guaranteed season."
He's 33 years old-the same age Wallace would be at the start of the season, and while he'd bring probably more production from the season's start-to-finish than would a rookie, I'd rather keep that pick. The rookie most likely would be less injury prone, and to me, it just seems you get your money's worth by getting a player 10+ years younger. You know that you are getting 11-11 guy with Camby, but the rookie possibly could give you more down the road.
Obviously, if this goes through, Paxson is just reinforcing his "sooner rather than later" plan.
by RingItUp26 on Jun 25, 2007 12:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the Bens and Tyrus
by LD9 on Jun 25, 2007 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've never been.
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 25, 2007 1:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Departed
by cliff levingston on Jun 25, 2007 2:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah ''The Dark Knight''
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0468569/Ss/0468569/DK_04216.jpg.html?hint=tt0468569
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 25, 2007 3:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greatest dunk ever.
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 25, 2007 2:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I love that dunk
by SRQman on Jun 25, 2007 2:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know what your saying.
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 25, 2007 3:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love Hubie's call
by paxson43 on Jun 25, 2007 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SLAM rated that dunk
by Old Skool Sloan on Jun 25, 2007 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you weren't paying attention
by Paxson Jackson on Jun 25, 2007 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gil doesn't count
by Old Skool Sloan on Jun 25, 2007 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have that game on VHS
by Option27 on Jun 25, 2007 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scottie's animosity
by cubbybear on Jun 25, 2007 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Knicks toughed their way
by Paxson Jackson on Jun 25, 2007 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think if anything is lacking on this team....
by cubbybear on Jun 25, 2007 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and get suspended once a month?
by Paxson Jackson on Jun 26, 2007 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The dunk itself
by Hiryu on Jun 26, 2007 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you Matt.
Noah is the only individual talent I won't be excited for, but then... he'll fit into the Bulls scheme so perfectly, that's at least cool.
Thursday just needs to get her so we can start speculating about free agency.
by tyger1147 on Jun 25, 2007 9:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
fortune
Anything we get there is gravy and I'm thinking we'll end up with one of four (In order of likelihood):
Noah, Jianlian, Hawes, Wright.
I'm curious to see if Pax does anything with those second round picks to move up and grab some late first/early second talent. There will be some really strong players available in that stretch.
...no renaldo balkman's though.
by CookDing on Jun 25, 2007 10:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i still like balkman
by milesgmsu on Jun 25, 2007 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt hit the nail on the coffin.
So don't hate on him when he drafts Yi Jianlian!
by Option27 on Jun 25, 2007 10:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Julian Wright...
http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/story.asp?id=326052
by RingItUp26 on Jun 25, 2007 11:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
as well he should be
by CookDing on Jun 25, 2007 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good things
by cubbybear on Jun 25, 2007 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what is really interesting?
Now if this happens to be the case, Wright HAS TO BE THE PICK!
I'll swallow my Jianlian pride for this pick in a second. This kid has the potential to be an amazing scoring PF for a long long time. I know a lot of people here are saying that the Bulls don't need anymore kids that "could" be good.
This guy has some serious natural talent . . . . TAKE HIM IF HE FALLS PLEASE!
by Option27 on Jun 25, 2007 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Motor
by paxson43 on Jun 25, 2007 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HOW!?
by Option27 on Jun 25, 2007 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh don't get me wrong
But I'm just saying . . . BRANDON WRIGHT?! Pax could shove the motor up his ass if he don't draft someone with Wright's ability if he's available. Unless it's for picking up Yi. :)
by Option27 on Jun 25, 2007 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't hold your breath on B Wright
During the 2004 draft, there were tons of questions about Luol's athletic ability (which were spot-on) but Pax liked him because Luol was mature and would work his butt off to maximize his potential. He opted for Luol instead of guys who have far more physical tools like Iguodala.
You can argue that Brandon Wright's upside is too good to pass up, but Paxson is going to be really concerned about his questionable motor. The few scouting reports I've read on Wright are exciting, but almost everyone mentions how inconsistent is effort is.
by paxson43 on Jun 25, 2007 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly - all these guys look the same
Everyone (including Pax) says that the team needs low-post scoring, but who in this draft has that outside of Oden? I'm not seeing it right now, but I have faith in Pax's ability to determine who can do it. And if none of them are going to be solid low-post scorers and he goes with Noah, then I'm OK with that. Pax will get the best player he can.
Matt - one quibble - Jay Williams broke his body about a week before the draft. Who was the point guard already on the team? Are you referring to Jamal Crawford?
by corey williams corey benjamin on Jun 25, 2007 1:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah the Jamal Crawford era
by paxson43 on Jun 25, 2007 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a friend...
Also, he made her feel his "abs".
by corey williams corey benjamin on Jun 25, 2007 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd make a U of M joke
by milesgmsu on Jun 25, 2007 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the exact same thing
by NittanyBull on Jun 25, 2007 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of UM and PSU...
by corey williams corey benjamin on Jun 26, 2007 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh gosh, that brings back memories.
I remember that game. It was my first year there, and that weekend was "Parents week," which basically means most of the students go home for the weekend. There were about 200 of us left in the East halls; the majority of us went to the commons to watch the game. When Robinson ran in for a touchdown, I started to cry( I get emotional when I've had some of the Devils' Juice), this one guy went streaking without his shorts, and this kid started banging his head on the wall. When Michigan scored to win, which was complete and utter bullcrap(a wide-out stepped out of bounds CLEARLY from a 4th and 2... and Carr adding the infamous 3 seconds back), this kid threw a Gatorade bottle to the T.V.,effectively breaking it, which thus started the horrible night that ensued.
That day sucked.
by NittanyBull on Jun 28, 2007 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben Gordon
by vlad001 on Jun 25, 2007 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Paxson
by Option27 on Jun 25, 2007 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Where did you hear?
by paxson43 on Jun 25, 2007 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
20 minutes ago
by Option27 on Jun 25, 2007 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, in their top of the hour update
by paxson43 on Jun 25, 2007 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paxson: "Kobe trade is a pipe dream"
Also says that we will keep the pick and not move up.
by SouthSideIrish on Jun 26, 2007 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck t-money
and who calls themselves t-money...really
by milesgmsu on Jun 25, 2007 4:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like how Miles
by paxson43 on Jun 25, 2007 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 25, 2007 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hawes coming back for 2nd workout. per Yahoo
* The Chicago Bulls are bringing 7-footer Spencer Hawes back to Chicago on Tuesday for a second visit, two league sources said, inspiring belief that they're committed to taking him with the ninth pick. Hawes is a back-to-the-basket center with offensive skills who complements the Bulls' vast perimeter talent. Still, it will be hard to pass up Noah if he's still available at No. 9 for Chicago. "That kid was born to play for Skiles," one Eastern Conference executive said.
by Jesse07 on Jun 26, 2007 8:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Quote
by Jesse07 on Jun 26, 2007 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's not about a feeling...
I thought, since right after the Bulls season ended, that Hawes would want some sort of guarantee from a team in the lottery to stay in the draft. My guess is that at least one or two of the lottery teams after the Bulls have told him they'll take him if he's available.
by tyger1147 on Jun 26, 2007 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This association with a Skiles
by Scotter on Jun 26, 2007 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paxson
I am probably the only one around here who thinks that Gasol trade should have happened (perhaps even with deng, who also happens to be my fav player). The bulls will probably become eastern conference finals contenders next year and probably for the coming following years, but can we expect someone to come along like Rasheed did for detroit to put us over the hump and actually compete for a championship???? And if so, how long. I hope this comment isnt outdated and is jsut repeated from the past, but his last few comments from articles like this:
http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/bulls.asp?id=326307
make me worry sometimes about the bulls back opffice.
by Sambossanova on Jun 26, 2007 11:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
GMs rarely screw up by being conservative
by Scotter on Jun 26, 2007 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hawes
by Wade.Jones on Jun 26, 2007 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you don't have to make it complicated
by Paxson Jackson on Jun 26, 2007 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assume Hawes is into Christianity given
by Scotter on Jun 26, 2007 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why Chris Kaman?
What makes Hawes different than Kaman or Mihm or whoever are two things. A jumpshot and passing ability. Hawes still has to be guarded 20 feet away from the basket. Those other guys don't have to be guarded outside of ten feet. If you want a comparison. Vlade Divac is the ESPN comparison. I'll take that. I think Brad Daugherty is a valid comparison. I'll take that. There's some similarities with Andrew Bogut. I'd probably settle for that.
by Scotter on Jun 26, 2007 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think Future Bull...
ehh never mind
by piccolomair on Jun 26, 2007 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a thought
by eross226 on Jun 26, 2007 2:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thta's been my hope all along.
Deng and his agents might be too smart and, though, and not sign the extension once a SF is drafted. There are a lot of small forwards in the 7-20 range that I think are being overlooked because of all the big men.
I don't think it will happen, but that's what I'd be in favor of.
by tyger1147 on Jun 26, 2007 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Corey Brewer
by Jesse07 on Jun 26, 2007 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
John Hollinger
Some intersting notes...
Hawes is the 30th best player.
McRoberts is the 8
Stuckey is 9
Thaddeus Young is 4
Here is the link
by Wade.Jones on Jun 26, 2007 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ugh
As for Law, his athleticism is a major question mark. He had 39 steals and one block, a pittance for a 6-3 guard. His 5.3 rebound rate is another poor indicator, while his age (22) only adds to the list of negatives. Additionally, Law's pure point ratio was only average, and he doesn't seem to be nearly dangerous enough a scorer to make up for it.
Trade the pick.
by Paxson Jackson on Jun 26, 2007 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
more possible Bulls picks pooh-poohed
by Paxson Jackson on Jun 26, 2007 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt
This whole 9th pick thing has really become lame. I really don't see anyone at 9 that fits in. Maybe packaging the pick is the best idea. If not I might just take a risk and like the Bulls taking Sean Willams. He's got no inside game but maybe he could fill Big Bens spot in a few years. Tyrus and Sean Williams could be scary. Then maybe try to find an inside guy when the time comes. I really don't see much help for the Bulls in terms of inside scoring so why not take a nice shot blocker who can come off the bench. Just a thought don't hit me.
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 26, 2007 8:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
so spend a mid lottery?
by milesgmsu on Jun 26, 2007 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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