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[From the Diaries. -Matt]

Should the Bulls start printing a name plate for the locker room to the delight of the many blog-a-bull Noah fans :-) !

From draftexpress, so take it lightly :

Chicago : We've been told by numerous team sources that if still on the board, Joakim Noah doesn't slip past this pick. It's likely between Yi Jianlian, Hawes and Noah, but they will almost certainly take Joakim because of the fact that he's ready to play and help them win right now.

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It's not the worst scenario possible
But they can't draft Noah and keep Nocioni. Too much 'passion', not enough 'good at basketball'.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 19, 2007 9:45 AM CDT   0 recs

at least Nocioni can score
I do see a potential problem with Thomas and Noah reflecting the Duhon and Gordon situation. I wouldn't be happy about that.

by Paxson Jackson on Jun 19, 2007 9:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

egads
good point on Skiles

I do think Noah has the height to defend the 5 right away...which does give him potential minutes that wouldn't overlap with Tyrus.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 19, 2007 10:00 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

if Nocioni sticks around
that's too much try-hardiness for Skiles not to bury Thomas. Power forward could be scary next season.

by Paxson Jackson on Jun 19, 2007 10:08 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You two just love to bag on the hustle players
together.  Its kind of cute watching you.  Like little kids playing with toys in the sandbox.

On the other hand,

if, like me, you believe Thomas has the ability to develop a midrange jumpshot and a few post moves,

and if, like me, you believe Noah is actually a good athlete despite his ugly looking (but not entirely terrible) jumpshot, and that he will be able to develop a midrange jumpshot and polish his post moves,

and if, like me, you think Deng will develop a post game (which we will likely see some of next season),

then you potentially have a future frontcourt of 7', 6'9", 6'9", all athletic, all good defenders, all with the ability to finish around the basket, all with a midrange jumpshot.  That is a frontcourt that will run all day.  I really don't think that's the worst of all worlds by any stretch.

Draft pick rodeo -- Yi Hawes!

by preverbal on Jun 19, 2007 10:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

if, like you...
I assume Nocioni won't be around, then yeah that frontcourt is fine.

The 'problem' is Skiles potentially burying Thomas, which you didn't address at all.

Anyway, I'm warming up to Noah. At the very least he can catch and finish. And pass a bit too.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 19, 2007 10:33 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No, you're right
I didn't address burying Thomas.  Do you think Thomas starts next year?

I was just giving a shout out to a potentially good frontcourt, and busting some chops.

Hopefully, if Noah is on board, he takes 25% of the 4 and 25% of the 5 by midseason, or something along those lines (assuming Thomas is getting the rest of the 4 minutes).

It does raise the question of how Noc fits in (if at all).

Draft pick rodeo -- Yi Hawes!

by preverbal on Jun 19, 2007 10:41 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

can't
we just hope that Noah takes PJ's minutes and that brown, noc and du get sent out for a decent vet/pick?

by CookDing on Jun 19, 2007 12:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm cooling off...
to Noah.  Someone up above said to trade for Anderson Varejao and pick Noah.  Huh??  To ME, those two are the same exact type of player.  You said it best above with your Nocioni comment, it would be an overload on passion, desire, and hunger...but where's the talent??

I don't have anything against the kid, but I just don't think he's right for this team.  I don't see any place where he could come in and help right away.

by ScottieCartwright on Jun 19, 2007 11:02 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He has
boatloads more experience than the other two big men we are considering which, in theory, translates to quicker contributions next season.

by CookDing on Jun 19, 2007 12:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't like Noah very much, but...
Paxson has tried to establish a good college lineage with all his players.  I think Washington vs. Billy Donovan and two National Titles is a big difference.  Then again, any rumors coming out of the Bulls organization are possbly interference, and more likely to be wrong than right, IMHO.

I don't hate the pick, but I have a feeling that Paxson wants Jeff Green or Yi.  Frankly, if my team wasn't CHI or GSW, I would be scared to take Yi because China can be difficult to compromise with.

Like a proud papa...

by cubbybear on Jun 19, 2007 1:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They would have alot of personality on that team.
they would have to produce the Noah wig to go with the Wallace fro. I kinda like Joakim as a Bull. Yeah he's not the inside scorer they need but I don't think you'll really get that in this draft. Tyrus needs to develope some post moves. I think he should be watching some old Hakeem clips. Speaking of.....http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/Yao_gets_first_tutorial_with_O-226053-34.html how stiff does Yao look?
Tim Duncan is a robot!

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 19, 2007 10:01 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever
I agree, also the Bulls should hire the Dream as an assistant coach. At least for one year to mentor Tyrus and the next Big (maybe Noah).  Pax can give him a assistant coach offer that he can't refuse.  Now how would Skiles's big ego handle this type of situation when an All-Star bigs Coach comes in to help the bigs to become offensive minded?

by exult463 on Jun 19, 2007 1:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

why would hakeem want to?
he's doing humanitarian work in Africa...plus his loyalites lie elsewhere....

Why not artis gilmore?

by milesgmsu on Jun 19, 2007 5:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I love Artis Gilmore
He was my favorite Bull when I was a kid.  His 'fro was THE 'fro (maybe in a tie with Dr. J).  And he may need the work to pay down his legal bills.
  http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=57756&provider=top
Draft pick rodeo -- Yi Hawes!

by preverbal on Jun 19, 2007 5:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Kareem is working with Bynum, I'm sure he'll
be a hall of famer any day now.  Tyrus would fall on his face trying to do the dream shake.  If your going to go down this tired path of getting player X to teach player Y post moves then get a player that actually can teach.  Steal Clifford Ray from Boston who according to Celtics fans has worked wonders with Al Jefferson, and he's gets bonus points for being a former Bull too.  

by Scotter on Jun 19, 2007 5:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe Artis CAN coach . . .
http://www.nba.com/bulls/history/qa_with_artisgilmore.html

Q: Did you think about going into coaching?

Gilmore: I thought about it, but I guess I waited too long. Before, initially I didn't want to do that kind of traveling again, but thought about, I really wanted to get back into it. But I guess I waited to long because it's hard to create interest from other sources in the league. They don't seem to have the interest. It's not like I can walk in back in there and get a coaching job. I gave it a shot.

Q: What do you plan to do down the line?

Gilmore: Just continue to create an environment for my family. And beyond that I'm content. I have a daughter that plays for Division I Louisiana Tech. Her name is Priya Gilmore. She's a junior. (I get to see) a couple of games, not nearly as many as I'd like. She about almost 6-3, plays center. We work together.

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Draft pick rodeo -- Yi Hawes!

by preverbal on Jun 19, 2007 5:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It wouldn't be a problem.
Actually Skiles allows his assistants a lot of freedom. I can't remember where the article is but the assistants praised Skiles for letting them coach and prepare gameplans.  Skiles who was an assistant under Ainge was allowed the same liberties and feels its the proper way to coach.
"If you're not going to compete, then I'll dominate you." MJ

by Rankdog on Jun 19, 2007 5:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Originally in the Trib,
http://www.topix.net/content/trb/2147080631024447379020579316883227413503
"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Jun 19, 2007 6:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thank you!
Yes this is the article I was refering to.
"If you're not going to compete, then I'll dominate you." MJ

by Rankdog on Jun 19, 2007 6:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You're welcome. :)
I remembered that one because it was one of the few behind-the-scenes type of articles recently, and I like to read those.
"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Jun 19, 2007 9:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Joakim's father
Yannick, ex star tennis player, is known as one of the master motivators in sports. He lead France to the win over the US at the Davis Cup (not playing, as the captain) even when the US were heavily favored to take it home (with Sampras, etc).
He just motivated and conditioned (the mind) his players so well that they made the upset.
If Joakim has half the sport intelligence and capacity to lead his teammates that his father had (and still has), then he's indeed a great team consolidator (as Ian THomsen implies in his SI article).
Now, basketball and skill wise, I have never seen Joakim play, so I don't know.
The Game chose him !

by Diabolo on Jun 19, 2007 11:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Anderson Varejao
The Bulls should sign and trade PJ Brown for Anderson Varejao. Imagine a frontline of Noah, Varejao, Thomas and Wallace: NBA's All-Hustle team. At least the Bulls will have some identity in this league. They were know as the Baby Bulls for so long and it's time to shed that label and show the NBA that they can win with pure hustle.

by Kantut on Jun 19, 2007 10:09 AM CDT   0 recs

Andres Nocioni
Don't forget to resign Noce!

by Kantut on Jun 19, 2007 10:10 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I love how ESPN News reports the Kobe Video
and only mentions that he's saying the same thing. ( ripping the Lakers) What about when he says get your Chicago Bulls uniforms fella's? Is that not News worthy? I find that odd how they don't even mention that. By the way they are selling the video for $1.99 but won't release it until they reach like 50,000.
Tim Duncan is a robot!

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 19, 2007 10:12 AM CDT   0 recs

Well
According to everyone that knows about it, that quote just was heard on audio. There is no video to support validity, I guess.
The only Yi Jianlian fan here

by Option27 on Jun 19, 2007 10:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Good point but I still think its worth noting.
Worldwide leader in sports.
Oh my god! I think Pippen's nuts went right in Ewings face on that one!!!

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 19, 2007 10:18 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

SI take on Noah
I continue to have mixed feelings about Jo Noah.  He gets a lot of scrutiny because he's been in the public eye for so long.  Were Yi, Brandan Wright, Conley or Hawes (all freshmen/international) so thoroughly evaluated, I'm sure that their stocks would fall as well.


Noah's championship experiences at Florida will earn him bonus points (see Previous championship experience) with Paxson.
 
Ian Thomsen at SI has an article up on Noah:
The important thing with Noah is to focus on his good qualities, the most convincing of them being his skills as a passer. His believers describe Noah as one of the smartest players in the draft. Knowing his limitations better than anybody, he will pursue his strengths as a point man in the frontcourt, a rebounder and a garbageman around the basket. Any team in possession of a big-man scorer would do well to pair him with Noah, who will selflessly feed his teammates much as he did for Al Horford and others at Florida.

Noah's upside is tremendous. He'll block shots, harass bigger opponents and run the floor as many teams yearn to do. Don't think his shooting stroke won't improve: He's one of the hardest-working players in this draft, and though he'll never have three-point range, he'll surely upgrade his release in a fundamental way.

Most impressive is that Noah is the rarest of draftable commodities: a mature grown-up who will have the easiest transition to the NBA after enduring criticism as his stock fell over the past year. Even as he plummeted, Noah maintained his focus on winning the championship; a lesser character would have gone selfish and tried to prove that he could indeed be a scorer at the expense of his team's larger goal. Noah is the Shane Battier of this draft.

If an NBA team is looking to bring in a go-to scorer, then drafting Noah will be a mistake. But for a team that has its act together, that has a few scoring pieces but needs glue to fit them together, Noah is the answer.

by paxson43 on Jun 19, 2007 10:38 AM CDT   0 recs

I think Noah works
The more I think about it the more I like it.

While the Bulls don't have the "big-man scorer" mentioned in the article, they do have TT who can certainly finish at the basket, and they do have a great slasher in Deng.  I think Noah as a post facilitator could work well.

Draft pick rodeo -- Yi Hawes!

by preverbal on Jun 19, 2007 10:46 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Dunzo
Pre, you and I should call Pax right now and let him know our final decision.

by paxson43 on Jun 19, 2007 10:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I have him on speed dial
Funny, he never answers though.
Draft pick rodeo -- Yi Hawes!

by preverbal on Jun 19, 2007 10:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Noah?
What happend to our guy Hawes?

by TT 4 Prez on Jun 19, 2007 10:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Victim of being flavor of the second
Give us a couple more hours... we'll cycle back to Hawes.

by paxson43 on Jun 19, 2007 11:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Rumored
to be going at 7 for Minny.
The Game chose him !

by Diabolo on Jun 19, 2007 11:19 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

well...
nobody really knows if Hawes can play. If he can then I agree he should be the guy. If he's that much of a project I'm ok with taking Noah. It's not like Noah's a finished product either.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 19, 2007 11:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the lack of a "big-man scorer"

is, unfortunately, a huge problem.  Wastching the Bulls last year, I never got the impression they needed more tough defense, rebounding, or hustle.  They need a guy who can score from the low post, and attract double-teams to open up Hinrich, Gordon, and Deng.  

I don't think Noah is really ready to be a low-post scoring threat.  I don't think he'd be a complete disaster.  Certainly, we have to consider who's going to be available - the best low post guys (Oden, Horford, Brandan Wright) will likely be gone.  He would bring something to the table.

But I would question stockpiling useful pieces, all of whom can do some things well, have some skills, and have the right attitude, but none of whom addresses the Bulls one glaring need.

by Bayern Munich on Jun 19, 2007 11:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

we acknowledge Noah doesn't fit that need
There's still trades and free agency.

Noah still can do things offensively that work for the Bulls: run, catch, finish, pass.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 19, 2007 11:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

agreed

and, as I said, he wouldn't be a complete disaster.  

I think they'll troll for KG, JermaineO, Gasol offers and see if they can get someone on the cheap.  If not, they take the best big available at the 9.  If Paxson thinks Noah's it, my (insignificant) opinion is that I'm OK with that.  Noah and Ben Wallace as starters, with Tyrus getting major minutes off the bench - combined with a good backcourt, that could be a contender, if some guys develop as we hope.

But you have to admit - the biggest hole in the Bulls offense (lack of solid low-post forward/center) would still be there.

by Bayern Munich on Jun 19, 2007 12:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

one quibble with that
"a mature grown-up"

Not that I know too much about him, but on the surface he seems more of a "preening jackass". I guess those qualities don't have to be mutually exclusive though.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 19, 2007 10:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed
This certainly makes him sound like a jackass.

by paxson43 on Jun 19, 2007 11:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He's just messing with the media.
I think it's good for the NBA to have people like JN. You need characters. I think he's funny. Atleast he's a good quote. Im sure he'll be a villian in most people's eyes. Maybe like Rodman or Barkley.
Oh my god! I think Pippen's nuts went right in Ewings face on that one!!!

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 19, 2007 11:19 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think he's funny, too
Certainly outspoken, but maybe that wouldn't be such a bad thing in a lockerroom full of guys that don't really seem to want the attention.  I've never heard him questioned as being a bad teammate, which is the sort of preening jackass type that I usually dislike.
"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Jun 19, 2007 11:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah
I do cringe a bit when I see him pulling that "Rambo Yell" stunt after each play.  Of course, one positive is we get to watch him do that to other teams and watch their fans grumble.
And preening jackass-acisms worked pretty well for this Rodman.  ..especially when Malone came to town.

by CookDing on Jun 19, 2007 12:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

wow ESPN mock draft 4.0 has Bulls taking Yi
Noah going to Bobcats. They just put it up like a second ago.
Oh my god! I think Pippen's nuts went right in Ewings face on that one!!!

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 19, 2007 11:23 AM CDT   0 recs

New top 10
1.Oden
2.Durant
3.Horford
4.Conley
5.Brewer
6.Wright
7.Green
8.Noah
9.Yi
10.Hawes
Oh my god! I think Pippen's nuts went right in Ewings face on that one!!!

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 19, 2007 11:26 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yessir
The Bulls are looking big and will decide between Yi, Noah and Hawes. In the past, GM John Paxson hasn't been much of a gambler, usually going with players from proven schools instead.

But Yi is intriguing enough here that Paxson probably has to pull the trigger. Yi prefers to face the basket, but his size and athleticism would be a great fit in Chicago.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=MockDraf t-070619b

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 19, 2007 11:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's surprising
Despite Yi being Chad Ford's man-crush, it looks like Yi's agent's attempts to protect his client has backfired.   I'm not an Insider; does Ford talk anymore about why Yi is expected to fall so far?  A week ago he was gone by 5.

by paxson43 on Jun 19, 2007 11:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

How has it backfired?
According to reports, Yi only wanted to go to GS or Chicago.

by 1958ChiTown on Jun 19, 2007 11:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Like butter
This plan has worked perfectly.

In addition, both of those teams are two of the better young teams in the NBA.  It's no coincidence that those are the teams he wants to play for.

Like a proud papa...

by cubbybear on Jun 19, 2007 1:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

his age
is playing a big part in it to. He's either 19 or 25 depending on who you listen to.

by LD9 on Jun 19, 2007 3:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's all working out perfectly!
The only Yi Jianlian fan here

by Option27 on Jun 19, 2007 2:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The Bulls are a sh*tty offensive team.
Why would we add another sh*tty offensive player?

The writing was on the wall when Paxosn started referring to Noah as a "winner."

by 1958ChiTown on Jun 19, 2007 11:29 AM CDT   0 recs

Well, I can certainly name several players who
would be far more productive than Noah on offense.

Yi, for example. Green. Even Hawes would probably score more, though I don't particularly like him as the nine pick.

Noah is another athletic, interior defender with minimal offensive skills. The BUlls already have two of those.

I suppose if the Bulls traded for scoring, the pick would be OK.

by 1958ChiTown on Jun 19, 2007 11:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you and Kevin McHale
are selling me on Noah.

by Paxson Jackson on Jun 19, 2007 11:42 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

and your surface tickling
analysis of Noah, Thomas, and Wallace is supposed to convince me that even more unknown prospects improve the offense? One tall player fills the need for a tall player no matter what their skills are. I'll settle for anyone who can contribute, and it's probable no one is going to make much of an impact.

If McHale is sold on Hawes (speculation), I don't like Hawes. Billy Knight drafts better than McHale for crying out loud.

by Paxson Jackson on Jun 19, 2007 11:56 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

McHale just doesn't draft;.
he'd rather forfeit the picks.  But, I agree what little track record he has in the lottery isn't great.  But if McHale could get anything right, I think it would be evaluating a post player.

by Scotter on Jun 19, 2007 12:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If the Bulls just needed a tall guy,
they could retrieve Big Marty from the neurology ward of Vilnius Hospital.

They need a big guy who can score.

And like everyone else, I have to rely on publicly available information and scouting reports on the draft prospects. According to that publicly available information, the consensus is that Noah isn't a good offensive player, whereas Yi is.  

by 1958ChiTown on Jun 19, 2007 12:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

if they needed a big guy who can score
they can keep Mike Sweetney. They need a big guy who can score and can play.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 19, 2007 12:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

When I said "score,"
I didn't mean "throw in a single basket before becoming winded, falling down behind the basket,  and suffering a myocardial infarction on the lap of one of the Lovabulls."

Sweets isn't exactly a 20+ scoring threat on a nightly basis.

It would be nice to see what that guy could do if he actually got in shape for just one season, though.

by 1958ChiTown on Jun 19, 2007 12:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

appreciate the 'sweets is fat' joke
but that's my point: Sweetney has the skills to score but can't play. You can potentially say the same about Yi and Hawes. If they can't contribute the height and skills are useless.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 19, 2007 12:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I am not entirely opposed to Noah.
I just think his skills are redundant, given our current roster.

That being said, from an overall perspective, Noah is probably the third most attractive option for the Bulls (behind Yi and Brewer, both of whom will likely be gone at 9).

by 1958ChiTown on Jun 19, 2007 1:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yes it's redundant
but maybe that's good in a way. You can plug in Wallace, Tyrus, Noah and get little dropoff in the rebounding and defense.

Anyway...to qualify what I'm saying: I hope that Hawes is ready and that Pax drafts him. I'm just saying if Pax determines he isn't ready (and not really close) I don't mind having someone like Noah, who is at least also tall :-)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 19, 2007 1:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

nothing wrong with
the status quo (if Noah can play). Ben Wallace could get some Antonio Davis vacation trips out of it too. I think a lot of people should start recognizing that, excluding the potential within Yi's 32 year old body, a solid backup player is probably the most the Bulls could get with 9.

by Paxson Jackson on Jun 19, 2007 1:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that wasn't really my point
a solid backup player - meaning a guy who does some of the same stuff as players currently starting, and not a franchise savior.

by Paxson Jackson on Jun 19, 2007 1:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you might get little dropoff
in the rebounding and defense dept...but you would get ZERO input in scoring and offense (with the exception of Ty).

The game is still about scoring points...I would like to think that Noah wouldn't be drafted just for his "desire", "energy", and "passion".  I would hope that he could give them some fluff baskets every now and then...I don't see it though.

With that being said, I really don't see him stopping too much of anyone down low either.  I'd be more comfortable with Hawes or Yi.

Even if they couldn't stop anyone, they could at the very least score a few buckets for you (aka Gordon).  Noah on the other hand doesn't seem ready to do either.

by ScottieCartwright on Jun 19, 2007 2:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

hang on
did you say that we "might get little dropoff" on defense and that later say you didn't see him stopping anyone defensively?  Maybe I didn't read that correctly.

by CookDing on Jun 19, 2007 2:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I was saying
"little dropoff" in quoting Matt's response.  That wasn't necessarily MY thoughts about him.  What you read was correct.  I don't see him stopping anyone.

by ScottieCartwright on Jun 19, 2007 2:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

uhhh
do you realize that Juwan Howard, Austin Croshere and Primoz Brezec are all gainfully employeed by NBA teams?
Just kidding.

by CookDing on Jun 19, 2007 2:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

lol
touche'...point taken  :-)

by ScottieCartwright on Jun 19, 2007 2:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Phew, that's a relief
Let's go ahead and let Pax know.  I'd say Noah is closer to the 9-11 range on the Bulls list of options, behind Oden, Horford, Wright, KG, Gasol, Chamberlain, Gilmore,...  Unfortunately, when the Bulls draft, those guys will be unavailable, or dead.
And with the 9th pick the Bulls select...

by bullshooter on Jun 19, 2007 1:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Is Hakeem Available?
Marty and him could compete for the spot.
Like a proud papa...

by cubbybear on Jun 19, 2007 1:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs