NBA Draft Lottery thread
I'm going to miss actively rooting against the Knicks. Sure, I suppose most of us will always root against them, but the past two years have been extra special knowing their pick was coming to the Bulls.
Tonight's the potential payoff of all that hate, and this article from Celtics.com breaks the whole lottery process down for ya. Here's all you need to know for the Bulls chances:
Chance of top pick: 1.9%
Chance of 2nd pick: 2.2%
Chance of 3rd pick: 2.7%
Chance of any top 2 pick: 4.1%
Chance of any top 3 pick: 6.8%
Would've been better odds if not for a meaningless Knicks win on the last day of the season, but ah well. The more likely odds are as follows:
Chance of 9th pick: 78%
Chance of 10th pick: 14%
(11th and 12th picks each < 1%)
I have no special rooting interest beyond the Bulls in this lottery, and especially don't believe in any such crap about what teams 'deserve' to win. Like any lottery, who deserves it has nothing to do with the matter (unless you think it's fixed, in which case you should turn off your computer, walk outside, and eventually make your way into oncoming traffic). Any team that has a great shot at a top pick likely did it by bungling their roster, so none of them really 'deserve' it. Except the Bulls (and the Suns) of course!
The best part is that we will soon no longer need that caveat of "unless they get a top-2 pick" when discussing the Bulls and other team's needs this offseason. After tonight, the trade scenarios and mock drafts can get real interesting.
So like Mr. Shanwald, make sure you have your lucky Krause pennies and enjoy the overblown coverage. Chances aren't great, but thanks to Pax (and, of course, Isiah) at least we all have a rooting interest in a night for losers.
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Mr. Shanwald
Think Pax is going to watch from the comfort of his north suburban home?
You don't care about
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 22, 2007 1:14 PM CDT reply actions
NBA's always good
But that potentially screws the Bulls, so scratch that.
I forgot, the league NEEDS the Celtics to be good ::barf::
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 22, 2007 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
there are millions of bandwagon
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 22, 2007 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
age limit came too soon
The Bulls owned the 2nd pick and most likely Oden or Durant woulda been there at 2 last year.
IMHO, the Bulls have had no draft luck recently.
Meanwhile, they get extremely high picks in terrible or mediocre drafts.
Unless they get extremely fortunate tonight, they will once again miss out on franchise players.
What time?
Tomorrow is my b-day. Last year, Isiah got me a 2nd pick. Let's see if he went shopping a day early for me this time...
by corey williams corey benjamin on May 22, 2007 1:30 PM CDT reply actions
7:30
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on May 22, 2007 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Simmons
Let's go Lotto Bulls!!!!
I'm all
basketballed out?
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on May 22, 2007 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
What are the odds of wining?
shanwald looks like
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on May 22, 2007 2:19 PM CDT reply actions
Skip makes a great point
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on May 22, 2007 2:21 PM CDT reply actions
False!
Skip from Juvenile's entourage fame once said....
Bring the whole crew booty delight"
I wouldn't say genius, but noteworthy ;)
The Conspiracy Draft Lottery
The consensus is that the Western Conference is vastly superior than the Eastern Conference at this point in time. Moreover, there are few superstars in the East. Presumably, the league wants to maintain balance, so the top two picks should go to Eastern conference teams. However, the analysis is complicated somewhat by the fact that the NBA may be motivated to "save" basketball in Seattle, a major west coast market.
Conspiracy factors obviously suggests that Boston will get the number one pick. They are in the Eastern Conference, they have a rich history, and they are a major east coast city.
Therefore, under the conspiracy theory, Boston gets the number one pick.
It's not as clear who the NBA would want to recieve the number two pick. (This conspiracy is hard to manage!) On the one hand, Milwaukee is in the Eastern conference. However, it's a smallish city and the NBA may not like the notion of having multiple superstars in an already stacked Central Division. Sorry Bucks.
Next up for consideration is Atlanta. They are in the Eastern conference and their attendence is sagging. Once upon a time, they had Nique. However, the fan support is pathetic even in decent years and the management is suspect. Does the NBA want to entrust one of its young crown jewels to the guys that drafted Sheldon "Wookie" Williams in the five spot last year? Probably not. Sounds like it's another season of 3,000 person crowds at the magnificent Phillips Arena, part stadium, part teeny-bopper mall.
That brings us to Seattle. They aren't in the Eastern Conference, but the franchise is in jeopardy. Additionally, the perception around the league is that Seattle has "great" fans. It's a close call, but Stern gives the second pick to Seattle after covert market studies indicate that a team in Oklahoma City would not appeal to the thuggish sensibilities of most NBA players and fans. As one lower level NBA exec puts it, "Fitty cent in Oklahoma just means two quarters."
The third pick goes to an Eastern Conference team as a consolation prize. The League wants Phoenix to get the fourth pick because, more than anything, it is tired of seeing the boring Spurs in the Finals. Stern still weeps when he reflects on the 6.5 Nielson rating the FInals garnered in 2003. Atlanta is foiled again. Hence, Milwaukee gets the third pick by default.
Results of The Conspiracy Draft Lottery:
(1) Boston;
(2) Seattle;
(3) Milwaukee.
Memphis, not surprisingly, is the big loser.
Let's see if that stands up tonight.
Is this correct - - - if we are not called after
They'll count down the picks from
If number nine comes and goes without the Bulls name being called, it means they are in the top three.
If Bulls can't get Oden then plese let him end up
Bah
I'm not worried
Anyone remeber the Lew Alcindor draft???
by DannyRange on May 22, 2007 4:55 PM CDT reply actions
Bulls to aquire Amare Stoudemire from PHX?
by DannyRange on May 22, 2007 4:57 PM CDT reply actions
yea
by Sambossanova on May 22, 2007 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
more than crazy
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 22, 2007 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
and who would we give up?
by Freethefro on May 22, 2007 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
lottery time frame
I recall the last drawing or whatever
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 22, 2007 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Draft position is pre determined
by DannyRange on May 22, 2007 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
You mean the lottery?
Is it true that?
by vlad001 on May 22, 2007 6:18 PM CDT reply actions
I've got a good feeling tonight...
Keep me posted
Finally started
Oh god, don't chat.
Bulls have the 9 pick
Could be worse
Wow, Atlanta got lucky to keep theirs
well since the Bulls are out of the running
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 22, 2007 7:52 PM CDT reply actions
damn it
Atlanta already has the Pacers pick
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 22, 2007 7:52 PM CDT reply actions
it's sick
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 22, 2007 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
9th pick.
by vlad001 on May 22, 2007 7:52 PM CDT reply actions
It would only be right for Atlanta to get the 2
Hoh shit, Portland's scary now
IF ONLY!11!ONE
He's
by ChrisRobin on May 22, 2007 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Joel is more likely.
The Bulls can get Luke back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 22, 2007 7:54 PM CDT reply actions
I love how those Celtics fans . . .
portlands gonna be sooo good
Bucks
by goldengod on May 22, 2007 7:55 PM CDT reply actions
Bill Simmons
by vlad001 on May 22, 2007 7:57 PM CDT reply actions
He'll be writing about how good Yi is
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 22, 2007 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
lmao
by SouthSideIrish @ Blog a Bull on May 22, 2007 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I am happy that the Celts didn't get the pick
by KT on May 22, 2007 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Now it begins
Seattle will be interesting
Man, I am thrilled for Portland
And I'm not feeling too bad for Atlanta - out of the Oden/Durant lotto, but with keeping their pick and getting the 11th in this draft is pretty sweet.
I'm just happy
by Freethefro on May 22, 2007 8:04 PM CDT reply actions
though its no sure thing
by Freethefro on May 22, 2007 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
big deal
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 22, 2007 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 22, 2007 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Any chance the Bulls can get Aldridge?
L
woah
by Sambossanova on May 22, 2007 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
How wild would it be to trade back
Pax will use
We could have gotten Oden...
sort of...
No
Ok
by Othellas Mustache on May 22, 2007 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
by Othellas Mustache on May 22, 2007 8:08 PM CDT reply actions
maybe atlanta
they already have
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 22, 2007 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
shhhhhh
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on May 22, 2007 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
And Memphis
All in all, other than not getting in top 3, this was actually a pretty good night for the Bulls.
by Freethefro on May 22, 2007 8:20 PM CDT reply actions
Celts have to appease Pierce, too
I just went on the Portland Oregonian TB blog
if ur portland
Yeah, I popped in at Blazers Edge
Woo Another Reason
Hopefully this will discourage teams from tanking
If only the bulls had beaten the Knicks
Without a top 3 pick, Bulls win BIG today!
- Both Durant and Oden end up on Western Conference teams. Won't have to worry about going through them anytime soon to get to the Finals. But the West got a lot better, as if it needed to.
- Memphis drops to 4th. Gasol will most likely shipped away now due to Memphis not getting a top 2 pick. Most likely, for a cheaper price. The Bulls can perhaps pull off an offer now that doesn't include any of the core. I don't see how other teams can match an offer of something like the 9th pick, Duhon, Nocioni and Sefolosha for Gasol. I'm sure the salaries don't match but I'm just thinking out loud here.
- Atlanta gets the 3rd pick. If the Atlanta pick went to Phoenix, we would maybe be looking at a dynasty over there in Arizona. Something that would be in the way of Chicago getting a title maybe anytime soon. Also, Atlanta has a way of fucking up picks.
- The Celtics and Bucks fall to 6th and 7th. This was a Doomsday scenario for both franchises. Both teams were one player away maybe being something in the East. Both teams superstars were out for most of the season which attributed to their poor records. A combo of Pierce and Oden/Durant or Redd and Oden/Durant would certainly be something to see for both teams. Keeps the road to the title a tad bit easier for the Bulls
- Portland winning the whole lottery. If Oden is truly their guy, Aldrige or Randolph has to be on the block, right?
Let the real mock draft finally begin . . .
Don't see why they get rid of Zach
I'm inclined to agree
But they know more about Randolph than we do, and may want him out of town at the first possible opportunity just for addition-by-subtraction.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 22, 2007 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
one less Jailblazer,
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 22, 2007 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
they still have Miles, right?
there's no 'next level' pressure
Miles and Randolph are a 20 million dollar plus (next season) combination of injuries and off court issues. No team is going to take both of them. Randolph does shoot too many jumpers, his eFG% leaves something to be desired, and he turns it over. He is still a very good post scorer, rebounder, his fouling is down, and his passing is improving. He went to the line at a 7.9 FTA/40 clip last season too. If he was on the Bulls, he probably could be more efficient. He wouldn't have to be the main scorer every night, and the Bulls can probably get the ball to him in the post a lot better than Portland did.
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 22, 2007 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
If you include
I like the positive posts!
Also, if David Lee, Quentin Richardson, Stephon Marbury and Jamal Crawford not all gone down with injuries the last month or two of the season, we wouldn't be having this discussion. The Knicks were going against 10-12 teams TRYING to lose, and still worked their way down the standings. There should still be 2-3 quality big men left for Pax to choose from at #9.
Aldridge
by goldengod on May 22, 2007 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Celtics fans are flipping out . . .
The eastern conference is starving for more superstars yet the two best rookies to be will play in pacific northwest....ABC/ESPN enjoy those 0.2 ratings cuz no one will watch. Having one fo those two in Boston the NBA ratings would have gone up remember when Celts Lakers were the draw. I agree the Lottery needs to go away it is fixed always has been and you can't prove to me it isn't. The NFL system couldnt work because tanking would still occur. how about a 14 team non playoff tournament. the final 2 teams left standing play for the #1 pick....so you how about this: you earn the right to draft 1st!!! NBA goodbye you are corrupt enjoy that Spurs detroit final and that 0.9 rating.
So the teams that can't get their act together
What a truly moronic idea.
How would teams who acquire picks by trade participate? How, for example, could the Bulls play in ft the playoffs and the draft tourney? Or would the Knicks play and tank the game because they have no incentive to win?
The Celtics fans have lost it.
Clearly the NBA fixed the lottery . . .
My lord - - - if you want to become depressed
More hilarity . . .
if the celtics do not get durant, oden, or kevin garnett i will throw an absolute ** fit. I live in Boston and I only watch the celtics a little, but this is getting ridiculous and the entire city is being disrespected, abused and im sick of it. the media will have a field day with this b*** but i dont care about that crap. the duncan draft was more acceptable than this. if they dont get rid of the lottery after this i may just seriously injure david stern personally. he will bleed..... a lot.
Maybe someone ought to contact law enforcement on this guy.
Nothing against the Celtics
by Freethefro on May 22, 2007 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
No joy for the Bulls.
Don't worry, though, we'll get someone who tries real hard during the regular season.
Yippee.
(OK, I'm stilled pissed about last Thursday. I admit it. I understand some of the incidental benefits outlined above, but those pale in comparison to the prospect of getting a star player to build on.)
So much for the conspiracy theories. Both of the burgeoning young stars are headed out west.
The only good thing that could come of this lottery is Bill Simmons' suicide.
They will pick
by vlad001 on May 22, 2007 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
HA!
by goldengod on May 22, 2007 9:00 PM CDT reply actions
Who will be available at 9?
Ignoring the first 2 obvious picks, who do you think will be available to us?
by bullsfaninbigapple on May 22, 2007 9:22 PM CDT reply actions
fellow Bulls fan in the big apple-
As for B. Wright, Horford, Brewer, and Yi...I have the feeling they'll be long gone...
by Freethefro on May 22, 2007 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I am fairly certain Sweetney could beat Hibbert
hopefully
by goldengod on May 22, 2007 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
no
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 22, 2007 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
There's no reason to be sad
Chad Ford's mock draft is up . . .
I know it's an Insider article, so I'll just post the most pertinent tidbits. He has the Bulls taking Spencer Hawes at #9, but says "The Bulls really want Yi, so don't be surprised if they try to move up a few spots in the draft to get him."
I think Chad Ford really wants Yi
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 22, 2007 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Indeed
:shameful headshake:
by Freethefro on May 22, 2007 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I was going in the direction
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 22, 2007 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
He just wants him on a mainstage...
And Yi is no Garrity.
Why the hell would the Bulls want Yi?
Wow, I can't wait to see Hawes in a Bulls uniform. He's an amazing athletic specimen. Will he be as dominating as Will Purdue?
None of the players available at nine excite me, frankly.
Hawes
by goldengod on May 22, 2007 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Hawes is only 19
Hibbert isn't exactly the flying dutchman either!
by Freethefro on May 22, 2007 9:59 PM CDT reply actions
True but,
by goldengod on May 22, 2007 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with your assessment of Hawes.
by 1958ChiTown on May 22, 2007 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Who
by goldengod on May 22, 2007 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't necessarily disagree with your
If Hibbert is there, I imagine they will take him.
I am just saying that I doubt the nine pick will add much to the Bulls.
We better hope for some dramatic internal development, especially from Tyrus.
by 1958ChiTown on May 22, 2007 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup
by goldengod on May 22, 2007 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
The good news is
by Freethefro on May 22, 2007 10:21 PM CDT reply actions
God no
All I'm saying
Granted I do not want to see Noah a Bull. Ever.
by Freethefro on May 22, 2007 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
chad ford on the knicks
Knicks president Isiah Thomas seems like the perfect candidate.
HAHAHAH!
chad said earlier today
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 22, 2007 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah....
Wow. Idiots.
Portland has the best NBA website, IMO.
Can't be
by goldengod on May 22, 2007 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
New post is up
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 22, 2007 10:37 PM CDT reply actions

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