Anybody want Game4 tickets?
Man, Sunday's game will be like a freaking wake. I guess I won't have anything better to do...
I watched at a bar tonight so it was tough to get a full gauge of the collapse, but if anything the 2nd half reaffirms what the first two blowouts told us: this team is far far away from contention.
There is no implied destiny involved with these losses. The NBA doesn't work where you lose in the first round a couple years, then the second round a year, and eventually you get to the Finals. It worked that way 20 years ago because they had Michael Jordan. It doesn't work that way for every young team, and the history of the league is littered with abandoned young squads that once had the promise but never made it. The whole situation needs to be re-evaluated, not just because they've lost, but how every time Detroit wanted to put them away they simply did, making this talent gap seem pretty vast. If it takes minor tweaks (plus internal development) or a more thorough overhaul is up to Pax, but we can feel reassured to know that from what he's told the media Pax himself isn't satisfied with this cute fun little team he's assembled.
In comparison to the roster, I don't think the coach is as much of the problem, but for tonight Skiles wasn't part of the solution either. After getting contributions from Tyrus and Thabo in the first half, they were completely benched in the second. Thankfully our man Duh got a DNP tonight, but even with the starters in the game for most of the second half Skiles bizarrely didn't make any substitutions until the lead was slipping away, and only then it was Nocioni (And if this series hasn't proved the need for Noc to go, I don't know what does) who came in after Tyrus was the first big off the bench in the first half. In a series where you're out-manned it takes some risks to try and get an edge, and I think everybody was willing to accept the risk of playing rookies whereas Skiles was hoping just to stick with his guys until the bitter end. It was a play-not-to-lose strategy that can't be used in a game that was firmly in control. They had to make it a blowout in the third so the Pistons would pack it in for the night. Once they were let back into the game it was already lost, because they simply use their possessions better.
But a bigger problem than the frontcourt rotation is their supposed star perimeter players, of whom you can't think leads to a championship after such an abysmal stretch in that half. The problem with 'ball-movement' offense is that it gives the ball opportunity to find the other team. It'd be nice for a few possessions to find one player to give the ball to and just let him create, as in the boring yet effective isolation NBA basketball. I had thought Gordon was the type to be that guy but he's been extremely disappointing all series, and like the rest of the team he had a great first half only to fall back towards mediocrity after that. Perhaps a team better than mediocre can beat most of the teams in the league. But it's not good enough to beat a team playing at an elite level, and while there's incremental success this season it does not imply that the Bulls ever get to that same pinnacle.
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As bad as Duhon has been . . .
There's a lot of blame to go around
I wouldn't go that far
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 10, 2007 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
i've often had that thought
Blow it up
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 10, 2007 11:48 PM CDT reply actions
can't give up Dore
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 10, 2007 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
One more addition
Don Nelson?
I'm just numb.
by KT on May 11, 2007 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions
well...
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 11, 2007 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions
This is all I have to say...
Skiles may not have had the best night, but he isn't the reason the Bulls lost, IMO.
The Bulls lost because the vaunted Core went 18 for 53! 18 for 53! Jesus Christ that is terrible. The team scores 30 points in the second half! That's awful! 13 points in the fourth quarter! They shot 33% for the game! I don't know what percentage they shot in the 4th, but I would guess it was less that 15%!
We outrebounded the Pistons by a large margin. We had more O-rebounds. We limited them to 8 or so second chance points, but you can't win if you don't score! And the members of the team who are supposed to provide the bulk of the scoring are Hinrich, Deng, and Gordon. They failed. Miserably.
That's why we lost, IMO.
The Core sucked ass.
I don't if it is because they are inexperienced, because they are young, because they choked under pressure when Detroit made a run, or because they simply are too small and unathletic.
I don't know. But in my eyes, Skiles' strategic decisions were a secondary concern at most.
This falls on Hinrich, Deng, and Gordon.
Maybe they just aren't good enough, especially the fucking guards.
I don't hold myself out as an expert, but the Core blew tonight.
What a sh*tty loss.
Sorry for the rant.
It's always the case
The Bulls best players aren't good enough. It's up to Pax to evauate whether they CAN be, and it's more than just 'well they're young so therefore they'll be fine'.
But one reason to advocate complacency is that they have Tyrus and this lottery pick, and hope that one of those 2 turn out to be studs.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 11, 2007 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I can't believe that I am going to be watching the
I honestly thought I would still be watching the Bulls in the playoffs after May 22.
I really thought that.
I guess I am a fool.
Fuck.
It's just basketball. Tomorrow my regular life will resume, but right now I feel like I got sucker punched in the face. I didn't see this collapse coming. Losing the series? Sure. But not this.
Seeing Pistons' fans congregate on the concourse and scream "De-Troit Bas-ket-ball" after we were up 19 in the third quarter broke my (fan) spirit.
by 1958ChiTown on May 11, 2007 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I actually disagree somewhat
The rest of the team, all 5 of them given Skiles' very short bench tonight, shot roughly the same percentage (.340 for the core vs. .333 for the rest) for 24 total points, had 29 rebounds and 0 assists.
If you just want to look at the 4th quarter shooting percentages and points, I don't think you can fairly lump the core together. Collectively the team shot .160 and had 13 points. Lu was 2-7 for 6 of those points (but missed 3 free throws), Kirk was 2-6 for 5 points, and BG was 0-5 for 0 points. So although shooting poorly, Lu and Kirk shot better than the rest of the team and scored 11 of the team's 13 points in the 4th.
So basically, while I'd agree that everyone shares in the blame on this one, I don't think it's fair to blame everything on the core. Feel free to conclude that there's not a Kobe among them, though.
12 Assists tells the whole story
as usual, you're half right
Right dude.
You conveniently ignore the one common thread of all of the losses: poor shooting from the Core. We're 33% for the series. The poor shooting doesn't result from fatigue, IMO, but from the fact that our guards are short and struggle to create shots against the long, athletic zone that detroit was playing. Meanwhile, the zone takes away Deng's slashing game and puts pressure on his weakness, creating his own shots off the dribble.
Baron Davis played over 40 a game against Dallas and he seemed just fine in the 4th quarters.
by 1958ChiTown on May 11, 2007 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Go look at the box score
And does Baron Davis play with anywhere near the defensive intensity that the Bulls do?
And don't call me dude, you're not some teenage punk and neither am I.
by bullshooter on May 11, 2007 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
you sure about that?
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 11, 2007 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
symptons and causes are two different things
by bullshooter on May 11, 2007 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
OK.
Skiles may have made errors, no one is denying that, but I think the main culprit is the fact that are players failed to perform. I am not going to give the Core a free pass on the basis of "fatigue." They just didn't play well. That's on them, not Skiles.
JMO.
by 1958ChiTown on May 11, 2007 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
they lost the game
by bullshooter on May 11, 2007 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I understand that your opinion
My opinion is that they played poorly and shot poorly because they are too short and unathletic to create offense against a focused, longer, more athletic team, especially when that team is playing zone. I think that's why they shot poorly last night and throughout the rest of the series as well (when long minutes were not a factor). I think the guards' lack of size and athleticism, combined with some poor decision making against the zone, accounts for scoring 69 and 71 in two playoff games. I think it also accounts for our series long 33% shooting.
We'll just have to disagree, which is fine.
by 1958ChiTown on May 11, 2007 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny that they
Sue, you are right.
However, it is pretty apparent that the Pistons weren't as focused then as they are now. I guess this is what Matt was alluding to when he wondered if the Bulls had a "playoff gear" or if they were just a pesky regular season team.
I am not having a pity party. I'll be at the UC next year just like I was this year. I'll always support the team, but right now I am trying to engage in a pretty blunt assessment of opur porspects. Not saying my assessment is perfect, just my honest thoughts.
by 1958ChiTown on May 11, 2007 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
It may be focus
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 11, 2007 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess this could go to Matt too...
I think DET matches up well with teams that have a low post focus because let's be honest, Sheed may be decent on defense but Webber and Dyess aren't all that great down low. All 3 big men constantly get in foul trouble, so a low post presence is what's needed to beat DET. DET aren't world beaters, they can handle teams that run and gun because they have the size and muscle to knock guys off picks, and they slow the tempo down a bit.
I'm surprised CHI hasn't won at least 1 game, because of all the years DET has had moderate success in the playoffs, they've never put together 7 straight solid games. There's always a "Brain fart" game, whereas this postseason they've had 2 "brain fart" halves in different games (Game 3 of both series).
by Boney @ Blog a Bull on May 11, 2007 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
defensive intentisty
hmmm young teams with promise.
young Mavericks Jim Jackson, Mashburn, Kidd.
Orlando Magic Shaq, Penny, Nick Anderson.
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on May 11, 2007 12:00 AM CDT reply actions
the magic went to a final
you could prolly throw the late 80s early 90s cavs into that mix...same type of team
and the warriors for every year until this one
and the most obvious....2001-2002-2003 bulls
Why Duhon didn't play:
According to the Trib, he was benched for missing a film session.
Wallace was late
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on May 11, 2007 1:12 AM CDT reply actions
mid 90s atlanta hawks
they even finished with the best record in the East in 93-4
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ATL/1994.html
they never went anywhere
i see parallels, except Mookie Blalock and Steve Smith were better players than KH and Ben, and Mutumbo was better than Wallace
by fireskiles on May 11, 2007 1:49 AM CDT reply actions
terrible comparison
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 11, 2007 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Not to be lighthearted
certainly more interesting than Boney-Vision,
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 11, 2007 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
leave the ex-mariner alone
You forgot Kevin Willis
In fact, I'm pretty sure Mutumbo was still in Denver then. He was on the Nuggets team with Rodney Rogers, Chris Jackon (Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf), & Laphonso Ellis that was the first 8-seed to knock off a 1-seed (Seattle).
I just followed the link
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 11, 2007 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
im an MSU homer
granted nique was out of this world and perenally underrated....and mutombo isnt much better than wallace....and inch for inch and pound for pound id take ben wallace
Nocioni...
He'll probably be resigned because Pax loves him and his recent poor play has made him affordable.
both teams played hard
by Boney @ Blog a Bull on May 11, 2007 8:14 AM CDT reply actions
one positive to come out of last night's game..
by Boney @ Blog a Bull on May 11, 2007 8:45 AM CDT reply actions
Stop flame-baiting
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 11, 2007 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions
agreed
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 11, 2007 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
no matter what
Whether I come out here and say "get out the brooms" or "both teams played hard" it gets hammered...
oh well
by Boney @ Blog a Bull on May 11, 2007 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
poor boner
It's hard to flame-bait and then try and pull back from it right afterwards with more lucid commentary.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 11, 2007 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
All I'm saying is
The coach doesn't match the personnel. The only players on the team that play the defensive style that Skiles wants is Adrian Griffin, Ben Wallace, and Hinrich. Tyrus Thomas is undisciplined still, but he's a rookie. PJ Brown is on his way out of the league. BG can't play defense against bigger guys. Luol is still learning, but he will be great.
If this team wants to be "run and gun" like they were in the MIA series all the time, then hire a coach from the PHO or GS group of coaches. I think Dell Harris would be a good hire for CHI, if you ask me.
by Boney @ Blog a Bull on May 11, 2007 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
you're just a dude
We're not in the Bulls organization (although I'll try anyway to pass along your advice to Hinrich) and, more importantly, want to talk about the Bulls more than the Pistons.
Seriously, start a blog of your own or something, I can even give you your first post headline: "Dude! Bulls need a Dell"
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 11, 2007 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
how about reading what the post says
My reply simply stated the "scheme" doesn't match the personnel outside of Hinrich, Griffin and Ben Wallace.
If the Bulls want to run, hire a coach that has coached in a system that runs. If Paxson (the GM) wants to keep Skiles and his "by the book, wanna-be LarryBrown hardnosed about everything" attitude, then pick up guys like Trenton Hassell, Aaron McKie, George Lynch and Theo Ratliff. There are reasons why guys like Gordon don't play well in Larry Brown or Skiles' systems, they don't fit in it. Skiles system should have one low post player, and one perimeter player. The rest should be serviceable, and solid on defense. They don't rely on their bench all too often, but Ty Thomas and Thabo are a good start. That's how the Skiles and Larry Browns of the world win.
Look at the Spurs... look at the 03-04 Pistons... look at the 00-01 6ers... you'll see the supporting cast is stronger than most teams "big 3". That's why Ben Wallace wanted out of D from last year, he didn't fit in Flip's scheme, and eventually would've been basically no better than Nazr Mohammed.
by Boney @ Blog a Bull on May 11, 2007 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
why we don't listen to you
We don't sign those guys because we like to, ya know, win and stay under the cap
Matt's Right!
Deng, Gordon, Hinrich - good players- not leaders
Deng got tentative, Gordon reverted to one on one dribbling down the shot clock and Hinrich wouldn't (couldn't) take charge of the offense.
I don't see any of these three being the leader of a top level team. None of them want the job.
leaders and/or 'best' players
I don't think is as much wanting the job as being able to handle it, 'refocusing' the team can be as simple as just giving a guy the ball and know he's going to get somebody (including himself) a good shot. They all completely failed when given this chance in the 2nd half yesterday.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 11, 2007 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
raucous crowd...
by bpa on May 11, 2007 9:31 AM CDT reply actions
If the writer of that recap happened
The entire 300 section just below the press box was a WWF Smackdown, especially in the 4th quarter. The anger of the crowd was palpable. It got ugly. A lot fights between Bulls fans and Pistons' fans. Thrown beers, the works.
by 1958ChiTown on May 11, 2007 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
yup
Nonetheless I think there is some hope in the internal development route to the finals. If Thomas steps up his game, - and don't most guys in their second season? - He's going to be a monster to deal with. Not superstar of course but just a pain in the ass matchup for every opponent. This could take just enough pressure off the perimeter guys to give them some breathing room to score in a series like this next year.
by theundergroundman on May 11, 2007 10:01 AM CDT reply actions
Too short
Most guys at that size succeed at PG, not SG. He's done a great job to get where he is as a SG, but he's not a PG and history shows very few guys that size make that leap to the elite at SG.
I'm not saying this is Ben's fault, by the way. I like Pax's plan, but relying on Gordon to become that guy looks like a mistake.
Simple as this . .
::Simple Fan Talk::
My thoughts
I thought TT and Thabo should have at least been given a chance to try to bring something in the second half. I think both of them will bring some much needed help next season.
Ben Gordon should never be allowed to dribble the ball. Why does he dribble into the lane where the opponents are at least 5" taller than he is and try to shoot?
I've always been a fan of Nocioni but it's time for him to part company with this team and he can take Duhon with him.
I will be praying like hell that we get what we need in the draft.
Noc seems to be hurt pretty badly
According to a source close the situation, the pain and swelling in his strained right foot had worsened to the point that Nocioni began to take anti-inflammatories and painkillers in recent days.
The source said Nocioni would be required to wear a protective boot for 45 days after conclusion of the playoffs. He will be required to stay off the foot for at least 60 days.
That's too bad.
Probably won't be playing for his country this summer.
That's on Skiles
Rick Morrisey had a great line today about Skiles sticking with 'his guys':
"Tyrus is a peripheral player for us right now," Skiles said. "He's a good role guy off the bench, but our main guys, I wanted to leave the game in their hands."
You lose Games 1 and 2 by a combined 47 points, your main guys and their hands don't deserve special treatment.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 11, 2007 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
If Tyrus is not a starter by next season I will
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on May 11, 2007 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
back and forth
by bullshooter on May 11, 2007 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
well, yeah
I still think he deserves a lot of leeway, far more than sometimes making questionable rotation decisions
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 11, 2007 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I seem to remember
by bullshooter on May 11, 2007 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
there's more to coaching than rotations
And also, those decisions even a game like last night are minor compared to the best players not playing well.
He eventually learned that starting Duhon and benching Gordon was a bad idea, I don't see a reason to think that if Tyrus keeps progressing he won't get more minutes as well.
Benching Duh is a plus in his corner too, no doubt :-D
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 11, 2007 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
there's also a difference
by bullshooter on May 11, 2007 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
because he is in pain he has hurt this team
Kinda funny that when Noce went down during the season, da bulls turned it around and found a "new" line up by using TT and Thabo a lot more and put together their most solid stretch of won games all season.
And they were playing like a well oiled machine and winning when Noce came back.
So why then - except for the sake of loyalty to Noce, would you (attempt) to change BACK to the "Noce lineup" and all but destroy what convincingly got you to the playoffs?
Especially when things were clicking pretty well without Noce...?
And you HAD to know that his foot would flare up.
Plantar fasceitous (or however you spell it) is nothing minor - it is MAJOR painful and whether anyone realizes it, it COULD even mean that Noce's starting capabilities could be over...
Anything is possible...
All I know is, that Skiles' "drill sargeant" approach has been beneficial at times - harmful in others.
He is absolutely METHODIC in the way he handles things, including reprimands.
And as we touched on last night and you just stated again - TT and Thabo should have AT LEAST been given a chance to contribute in the second half last night.
They seem to (most of the time) provide a spark that gets the team going, at least at the UC.
Their stepping up when Noce went down was a huge step forward in their development, and not capitalizing on that for the playoffs has, IMHO, hurt us - perhaps beyond hope for this season.
FWIW...
true
Can we win 4 in a row?
Wishful thinking or...?
Can we win 4 in a row?
I love the optimism
by Squirrley on May 11, 2007 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, about that...
by alex cutter on May 12, 2007 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I heard on WBBM that Skiles was complaining
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on May 11, 2007 10:56 AM CDT reply actions
Here is a good article from Sam Smith
I find myself in the unusual and uncomfortable position of having to agree with Smith.
In any case, interesting read. I thought Skiles' reaction was pretty fascinating, as well.
the money quote
"Is their zone getting all kinds of public recognition?" Skiles asked. "Is that what's going on? I think it's kind of funny, and I don't mean to show them any disrespect, but we have been getting shots all over the place. I'll look at the tape to see if we're looking at the same game, but we missed somewhere between 18 and 25 open shots.
"I don't want to take anything away from them because they have long, athletic guys and when you take it to the wrong area they will get a piece of the ball. We got a little tentative."
Nevertheless, it was clear the Bulls also lacked an inside presence to bail them out when the jumpers clanged, as they did in a horrific 10-for-41 second half.
So either the Bulls couldn't handle the zone, or they were tired and missed open shots. Either way, I'm disappointed.
I'm kind of feeling for Skiles
one of the odd things about being a coach
Although I'd love to see a group of reporters question members of my project tea after they've screwed up.
by KT on May 11, 2007 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
but that would probably make for a boring
I can't tell if I am in the minority or the
Similarly. I think Paxson is one of the best GM's in the league.
In my humble opinion, the Bulls just don't have the talent on the roster to win a championship yet, no matter the rotation or the minutes played or the scheme. That's just my little opinion. Paxson and Skiles have done as well as possible with the cards they were dealt, but they just didn't get high enough draft picks in any of the "special" drafts. When they did have picks, I thought they took the best player available. None of those players have turned out to be NBA luminaries, though. (Maybe Tyrus can develop.) Meanwhile, it's not as if there has been a superstar free agent available or a feasible blockbuster trade offer.
People have said, on occassion, that we are utlizing the Detroit 03 template: Team defense and balanced scoring. However, after this series, it seems apparent that we can't follow that blueprint because we don't have the size or length that the Pistons do, which hampers us. It's almost as if the Bulls are the mini-Pistons.
Perhaps we'll get extraordinaily lucky in this year's draft and land Oden or Durant! (OK, I'm reaching.)
ha!
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 11, 2007 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
That's...my...point?
Regardless of whether it's Ben's "fault" (I am not sure if that term has any meaning in the concept of genetically inherited height), his lack of size can stil be a detriment on the floor. Hence my feeling that we lack the size and length to replicate the Pistons' championship team.
It's over dudes
by PistonFan on May 11, 2007 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
that was in reference to
"I really think Skiles is a brilliant coach and a genuinely intelligent person.
Similarly. I think Paxson is one of the best GM's in the league.
Paxson and Skiles have done as well as possible with the cards they were dealt, but they just didn't get high enough draft picks in any of the "special" drafts."
I'm not invalidating your opinion, it's just an incredibly bold one to have, and worthy of being pointed out. I'd save a compliment like that for a Finals appearance.
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 11, 2007 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, what do you think that Skiles and/or Paxson
Paxson and Skiles are both competent guys
I think I can articulate this stuff better around draft time.
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 11, 2007 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
a little more thought
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 11, 2007 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
next year
Bulls organization and the fans have to face the facts that they are not as good as Pistons. They have many more holes in there offense and Det exploited them.
Gordon is really tough player to figure out as he is capable of scoring but against wrong team the Bulls backcourt D suffers a lot and Gordon can be shut down on offense some nights. I think he will be Bulls toughest decision.
by NY Chicago Fan on May 11, 2007 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm genuinely curious.
If you were just taking issues with my statement about Skiles, what do you think he should do differently that would get this team over the hump?
First and foremost
As for Skiles, the average tenure of an NBA coach is less than 4 years. Skiles is an above average coach, but he seems to have a very demanding style that may wear thin. Also, this team has evovled and is obviously not the same situation and coaching challenge it was 4 years ago. Consequently, Skiles needs to evolve, too. Maybe he has. Duhon misses a film session and gets benched, but Wallace is late and gets a small fine? Wallace is obviously essential, but just as essential is an aggressive Hinrich and Gordon. Not putting in your security blanket to give those guys a few minutes rest in the second half is foolish, no matter the reason. I don't know, I just don't see how Skiles choices last night were "brillant." Maybe there is a bigger story behind these things, I don't know.
One more thing
Skiles drives me nuts with rotations,
learning from mistakes
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 11, 2007 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Proof is Positive
Pax has to look at moving Hinrich,Gordon,Duhon,and Nocioni for players with size and athleticism. This is the NBA, and that small ball crap only works if all of the rotation players are at least 6'4" and are athletic, like with the Warriors. Bottom line; bulls are undersized, outmatched, and the victim of some questionable coaching.
by DannyRange on May 11, 2007 2:59 PM CDT reply actions
Anyone still rooting for the Bulls on Sunday?
You have a horse with three broken legs; just shoot the damn thing in the head!
Come on, do you all really want to see this team get its insides chewed out at the Palace? A blowout game 5 would set them back at least another year. Ben Wallace won't ever recover,that's for sure. Game 4 is the perfect time to cut the losses and resign gracefully.
Oh, and can't have any of the "stars" (lol) get injured to lower their trade stock.
-We all know what the rest of the NBA doesn't: everyone on this team except Deng is an overachieving stock rotation player-
If you call any of these guys "stars" you're insulting Detroit, which actually does have a star player at every position. I say this summer is trade prime time, before the rest of the league gets in on our little secret.
by vlad001 on May 11, 2007 4:28 PM CDT reply actions
Mr. Vlad
Stop making excuses...
Chicago fans are blinded by their own arrogance.
by TooEasy on May 11, 2007 5:50 PM CDT reply actions
Pistons fans are blinded
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 11, 2007 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone
by Detriotrocks on May 12, 2007 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions
You know what's uncalled for?
Little uncalled for.
not my cronies
by Boney @ Blog a Bull on May 12, 2007 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
You know what
by Detriotrocks on May 12, 2007 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
You are a walking, talking, contradiction
Ask a person why he complains all the time, he'll ask you why you talk so damn much.
LMAO!!!
Losers
by Detriotrocks on May 13, 2007 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions
you spelled all those swear words right
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 13, 2007 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Look DeTRIOT
I'll bet your mommy is really proud that you talked to a woman like that too. Your language speaks volumes about you DeTRIOT.
as the saying goes
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 13, 2007 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
chicago was voted by the sporting news
meanwhile detroit has the lions and bandwagon tigers fans.....pistons fans are good fans, but not at chicago level...
ill give ya wings fans....
and im a michgander...so don't try and throw this back in my face
spare us
by Boney @ Blog a Bull on May 12, 2007 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
nice
Enjoy the off-season, hopefully there's enough room at the lake for you to go fishing
by Boney @ Blog a Bull on May 12, 2007 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I did
by Boney @ Blog a Bull on May 12, 2007 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
really?
let me know, so I can give the DoD an updated history of where I've lived in the last 7 years of my life.
tool
by Boney @ Blog a Bull on May 12, 2007 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Hm
Hm
by NittanyBull on May 12, 2007 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I live in Virginia now
I said "I used to, until I moved for work"
by Boney @ Blog a Bull on May 13, 2007 6:50 AM CDT up reply actions
because
so...detroit sucks.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 12, 2007 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
at least the pistons are getting their periods =
Guys read my new diary
So...
And you and joejoe are neck-and-neck for the Annual BlogaBull Illiteracy award.
Last night was like watching your own death unfold
We're probably not as bad as we look, just like we probably weren't as good as people were saying when we won against Miami.
I read through the above comments. As usual I find this blog the best place to go to really understand what is happening with the Bulls. I even enjoyed Boney's contributions. Matt does a great job! Truth be told - I don't want the season to end partly because I will miss blogabull!
I need to wait until the draft to better assess our team. My main gripe as stated above many times was not playing TT and Thabo enough during the regular season and particularly the second half last night. I am not ready to give up on this team. Maybe a silver lining is that we can get Noc for a reasonable price. I had plantar-facciitis and it took me a year to recover.
Worst part ------ I will be glued to the TV Sunday rooting for us to at least win one game.
you dont have to leave after the season
sweethomesports.com/bulls
and the winner of the cheap plug award....
MILESGMSU
Has anybody else listened to Skiles
I hope there is no internal strife or turmoil.
Maybe he was just numb.
by 1958ChiTown on May 11, 2007 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
something is fishy
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on May 11, 2007 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Pathetic...
Anyways, I have a few extra brooms lying around...
by TooEasy on May 12, 2007 12:17 AM CDT reply actions
Screw you
half of america thinks it's canada?
by Boney @ Blog a Bull on May 12, 2007 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a book
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 12, 2007 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions
once again
by Boney @ Blog a Bull on May 12, 2007 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
The Bulls' buttholes...
by alex cutter on May 12, 2007 9:00 AM CDT reply actions
yeah
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 12, 2007 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Owww!
by alex cutter on May 13, 2007 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on May 13, 2007 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Growth?
Growth yes.
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on May 13, 2007 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Growth? Yes.
They're missing a key component this year, one which has been discussed ad nauseum. This is a huge detriment to a half-court offense. It's like playing baseball in the AL without a DH. I still think they would have paid too much for Gasol. I'm starting to think they should have really just picked up someone in this mold at the expense of an Adrian Griffin or a Sweetney. You know, someone cheap and ok but not great. Whatever. They wouldn't have won this year. They will pick up this last piece this offseason and the townspeople will rejoice.
The Bulls should really be aiming for dominance in about two or three years, when the Spurs, Mavs, and yes, the Pistons wane. If they draft a center this offseason, that guy will be just taking off by then, which is perfect. Suns-Bulls finals in 2010, baby!
by Craig Hodges Explosion 3000 on May 13, 2007 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
You know, someone cheap and ok but not great
IMHO, they will need someone really good to stand with BW down low...
And as far as "behind the scenes" - it is always possible that Skiles / Pax are looking hard at who will stay and who will be traded in the offseason and had already realized after 2 blowouts from detroit that it was over.
ANYTHING is possible....
I just hope we can at least win today to avoid a sweep from detwat.
These douche bag pissed-on fans that log on here to troll...man...must really have some self-confidence issues to need that kind of charge...

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