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The first key

A whole week of hype is coming, and it's probably well-deserved. While I fear that it won't be the most aesthetically-pleasing series, it's full of fun matchups and compelling storylines.

But first to re-cap what the Bulls were able to Miami, the importance of the conquest almost seems diminished because it was so thorough. Were the Heat simply that bad? Perhaps, but damn did the Bulls look good in these 4 games, and most importantly played well offensively even in games where they didn't shoot well. And while the frontcourt proved to be the constant I had hoped for ('battle-tested' was a term Riley aptly used) it was the consistency of Gordon and Deng that led the way.

Deng was phenomenal and perplexed the Heat all series, averaging 26.3 points on 58% shooting.  And it was mostly a typical performance: moving without the ball and getting open looks. He seemed even more confident and aggressive with his mid-range game than usual, but rarely forced anything. Even when he was 'forcing' and demanding the ball in the paint at points, it was to exploit the obvious mismatches he had over Heat defenders. He won't have that same degree of luxury against Tayshaun Prince, but he's playing at such a high level right now (and in the way he plays within the offense) that I don't see him being slowed down that much. Maybe the Bulls can't use him as a top option this series but he'll always be moving and getting open.

But while Deng got the most attention for his raised production this postseason, I've been even more impressed with Ben Gordon. Luol said it after game 3, the Heat were gearing to stop Ben and were trying to trap him at every opportunity. Deng gets shots within the offense, but Gordon is  the offense. People want consistency out of Gordon? look at this:

Min FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A PTS
Game 4 45 6-16 3-7 9-10 24
Game 3 38 7-16 2-5 11-14 27
Game 2 44 11-19 5-8 0-0 27
Game 1 43 7-19 0-5 10-11 24

Didn't matter how he got the points, Gordon did what the team needs him to do: stay on the floor and keep scoring. The only game where he didn't feast at the line was when he was bombing away 3-pointers. Hopefully sometime soon the label 'streak-shooter' can be shed, because it's just a nice way of saying a player is average. Ben Gordon is special, and he had a fantastic series. While Deng couldn't be single-covered by the Heat, the whole Heat team defense had fits with Gordon. He had some bad turnovers but was overall level-headed when handling the trap, he'd come around screens and force fouls on 'showing' Miami bigs, and he'd put his head down towards the paint-dwelling shotblocker's punishment, which, like much of what the Heat could muster this series, was slow and late.

If the Bulls are going to take Detroit it'll take a lot, but it will start with these two. Sure, saying the team's best players will be needed isn't exactly news (unless you're one to over-value 'the little things'), but what comes after early flashes of brilliance in a career (if it ever does) is consistency, and so far Deng and Gordon have shown it, and as a result the Bulls have as well.

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i know your a pistons fan
and not used to this godfoundit technology, but why did u place that comment here?

by milesgmsu on May 1, 2007 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno...
I saw it and found the first place I could to post it to get a reaction out of you ;)

by Boney on May 1, 2007 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boner
I can't wait until the Bulls beat Detroit and you can go back to watching 8 Mile and Detroit Rock City bootlegs in your mother's basement.

by bullshooter on May 1, 2007 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What are you?
"They beat us. They beat us, period." - Pat Riley

by NittanyBull on May 1, 2007 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't wait either..
why do people assume that I watch 8 mile and enjoy Detroit Rock City?  It's not a putdown, really.

by Boney on May 1, 2007 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Detroit
and Robocop
In Pax we Trust!

by Jobu on May 1, 2007 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OCP
Diiiiiiick Jooooooooonnness!!

by Hiryu on May 1, 2007 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will say this about Detroit
first time I went up there by myself (1999), was to see a baseball game at Comerica against the Reds (I'm from DC).  I drove up there, 9 hours, without my gf (whose father told me if she went away with me for the weekend would have to find a new place to live because we weren't married), and without my mapquest directions...

I will say that there was a burned out car on just about every exit on i-75 around the major exits for the city of Detroit.  Honest to god... then the day I left, there was a car on the opposite side of me on i-75 that was flipped over (I see this a night after I overhear someone at the Tigers' game telling someone else that people with foreign cars better not mess with anyone with a GM or Ford...  I was driving a Honda)...

Detroit isn't the best, but I'm sure Chicago has their sorry spots too... Cleveland is the wasteland though of all wastelands...

by Boney on May 1, 2007 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cleveland sucks! Indy sucks. Both.....
ugly cities. It was 1996 when  I was in Detroit with my mom and my sister for some kinda Holland fest my Mom made us drive to. I was listening to the Bulls Knicks game on the radio when I saw this Old guy dressed as a woman with smeared lips stick over his face and a blonde wig and he was unshaven. He was driving this huge Yellow boat for a car. It was old and broken down. Then I had to watch people from Holland dance in weird cloths and wooden shoes.
"I've never been swept before. I don't know what that means." Thats captain chunk!

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on May 1, 2007 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lmao
My team has no "super star". It has players who have desire, determination and heart making them a "super team". GO BULLS!!!

by sue369 on May 1, 2007 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think either Indianapolis or
Cleveland qualifies as a city.

I was in Indy to see the Final Four (Tyrus got in foul trouble and had a poor game, unfortunately) and I found that it was really just a desultory, haphazard collection of buildings in the middle of a vast field.

Cleveland's downtown has the visual texture and feel of hardened manure.

by 1958ChiTown on May 1, 2007 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's funnier..
when people dance around in cloths rather than clothes ;)

I know it was a typo, but imagine people dancing around with just loose pieces of cloth on them...  mmmm  Jessica Alba and loose cloths

by Boney on May 1, 2007 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, you're not originally from Detroit?
How are you a Pistons fan? That always confused me about some fans. Do you just pick a team out of a hat and choose to follow them, or follow them because of their success?
"They beat us. They beat us, period." - Pat Riley

by NittanyBull on May 1, 2007 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, for example...
I was born in St. Joseph, MI, which is on Lake Michigan.  Our local station only played Chicago teams, so that's what I grew up rooting for.  And that is a fortunate coincidence, because the Bulls dynasty started as soon as I was old enough to watch them.

by Craig Hodges Explosion 3000 on May 1, 2007 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For me,
I grew up near Portland and was a Blazers fan, so I HATED Chicago through the dynasty years (blasphemy here, I know - but it was no fun to watch Jordan score on your team).  I'm a Bulls fan now because I was a Kirk fan during his time at KU - and considering the state of the team when he was drafted, no one could ever accuse me a picking a team because of its success!
"We're in trouble if we lose at home. If we lose at home, you come back and talk to me and I'll tell you: 'You know what? We're in trouble.'" Alonzo Mourning

by wjb1492 on May 1, 2007 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am from Florida
but was raised to be a Chicago fan in every sport because my dad raised me to think the Bulls, Cubs, Blackhawks and Bears were all better than any of the terrible teams in the Bay area.

by SRQman on May 1, 2007 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pistons' fan and why...
my dad was raised in Northern Ohio, and since he was a fan of the tigers and lions already, he assumed the role of pistons' fan.  I grew up in a house that only watched basketball when the pistons were on (1987-now)...

by Boney on May 2, 2007 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh no!
That's news to me. Hopefully Paxson doesn't forget his name while trying to extend the players that are actually important.

by Paxson Jackson on May 1, 2007 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Noc
is a restricted free agent at the end of the season.  We will keep him unless some team wants to way overpay for him.  Paxson has said as much.  He's also said openly that he really wants to keep Noc, which a smart manager wouldn't say if he didn't know the feeling was mutual.

by Craig Hodges Explosion 3000 on May 1, 2007 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sam Smith
has intimated that Nocioni is expecting to flop for someone else next season.

by Paxson Jackson on May 1, 2007 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sam Smith is a Tool!
"I've never been swept before. I don't know what that means." Thats captain chunk!

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on May 1, 2007 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok
Get back JoeJoe...

by corey williams corey benjamin on May 1, 2007 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not about who's more right
The point is resigning the guy isn't a sure thing because of something Paxson said.

by Paxson Jackson on May 1, 2007 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's the inverse barometer of truth.
Last year, he predicted the Bulls would make the Finals. They were ousted in the first round.

This year, he predicted the Heat in six. Bulls sweep.

He spent most of the season concocting inane trade scenarios. No trade. (Thank God Paxson is intelligent.)

If Smith thinks Noce will end up elsewhere, it's a sure sign that he'll be in a Bulls uniform next year.

by 1958ChiTown on May 1, 2007 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rumor has it....
The Heat want Nocioni.
"I've never been swept before. I don't know what that means." Thats captain chunk!

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on May 1, 2007 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like how
just pointing out a different position on contract extensions draws the "Sam Smith is a liar!" comments. Yeesh. Nocioni resigning isn't a huge priority when you consider Gordon and Deng can and will negotiate big extensions this summer, Tyrus Thomas looks like he can play, and a high draft pick could take Nocioni's grit-stained spot on the bench. Trading the pick and Nocioni might work out too. There are a a lot of things that can be done with the guy. You don't have to like Sam Smith to realize that.

by Paxson Jackson on May 1, 2007 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think anyone
called him a "liar."

It's just that he doesn't have a history of being very accurate, either in his game predictions nor in his predictions concerning player movement.

While a statement by Paxson isn't dispositive, an insinuation by Smith is even less so.

Sometimes, I think the tidbits Smith publishes are the rumors he hears at the urinal in the press men's room after the game.

You are right, Noce may end up with a different team. But, on the other hand, Paxson and Skiles do seem to genuinely admire him as a person and, more importantly, a player.  

by 1958ChiTown on May 1, 2007 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"He's the inverse barometer of truth."
Yeah, I guess you were indirect about that. Nothing's better than debating everything except what the debate is about, huh?

Sam's trade scenarios aren't predictions (a big "who cares?" on that front too), just suggestions, and fun reading. He does consider salary cap, and team needs. Steve Nash for Jerome James isn't going to be found in his column on Monday, and if it did I'm sure he would have a good reason. I suppose if you think you know what Skiles and Paxson are thinking none of that stuff matters.

Buzzkill.

by Paxson Jackson on May 1, 2007 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am guessing that if Paxson and Skiles
say good things about Nocioni, they probably mean it.

And if Skiles plays Nocioni, I think that is another good indicator that he feels Nocioni has value.

by 1958ChiTown on May 1, 2007 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"money money money money money....
everybody has a price!"

I think this can be put off until the season's over, but I just want to say lets not get soft in the head when it comes to business decisions. "value" means money. I'm sure both Noc and Pax/Skiles have a figure in mind that can be completely messed up by another team's valuing of Noc.

Nice things said about him  doesn't give us much of an indication as to how high they'll go to re-sign him. There's just no way to tell.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 1, 2007 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's all certainly true.
I don't know if any other teams are really going to initiate a bidding war over Nocioni as a restricted free agent, but it could happen.

by 1958ChiTown on May 1, 2007 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't matter
Like Matt said, other teams could offer Nocioni more than the Bulls are willing to spend. Gordon and Deng are the priorities too. It shouldn't take 100 comments to agree on the uncertainty of an uncertain situation.

by Paxson Jackson on May 1, 2007 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just pointing out that a Sam Smith
article isn't a particularly credible or persuasive source of information on Nocioni's ultimate destination.

No one was disputing the possibility that Nocioni could and might and may end up somewhere else.

In sum, I agree with Craig's initial post (which acknowledges the point Matt made):

"We will keep him unless some team wants to way overpay for him.  Paxson has said as much.  He's also said openly that he really wants to keep Noc, which a smart manager wouldn't say if he didn't know the feeling was mutual."

by 1958ChiTown on May 1, 2007 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha!
What else can Paxson even say? That's why I brought up Sam in the first place.

by Paxson Jackson on May 1, 2007 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

streak-shooter
the label may have a conotation of average, but truth be told gordon is a streak shooter....when hes hot noone is better, when he's cold...eww

That being said, what I'm seeing more from gordon, and especially, quoth Hubie, as he matured in real time during that series, is when his shot wasn't falling, he drove to the pain to get the FT's. So shall they drop the streak shooter title and call him what he is "The 2nd best small scorer ever behind AI" of course; will they...no

by milesgmsu on May 1, 2007 8:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure I agree with the analysis
NAME    FGM    FGA    FG%    3PM    3PA    3P%    FTM    FTA    FT%    2PM    2PA    2P%    PPS*    ADJ.
FG%^
BG        7.4    16.3    .455    1.9    4.6    .413    4.6    5.4    .864    5.5    11.7    .471    1.31    .513
            7.8    17.5    .443    2.5    6.3    .400    7.5    8.8    .857    5.3    11.3    .467    1.46    .514

This is a comparison of BG's regular season versus playoff stats, the playoff numbers are the second line.  The only positive number on there to me is the increased free throws, the other numbers don't show any improvement.   Furthermore, his AST/TO has gone from 1.19 to 1.16, also not an improvement and not very good, and even more worrisome based on the fact that if Hinrich gets in foul trouble, BG handles the ball more.  You could say Gordon was consistent with his regular season numbers, but I don't think his regular season numbers were overwhelmingly great given the fact that he is the primary option.  And I don't think the Heat were that much of a challenge.  Who were the Heat trying to stop BG with, Jason Williams on one knee, or 57 year-old Eddie Jones and GP?  The real question is whether BG can maintain these numbers against a much better opponent in Detroit.

Deng is the guy who stepped up his game in the first round.

by bullshooter on May 1, 2007 8:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The AST/TO went up
because Gordon had to handle the ball more. I'm not sure how much pooh-poohing is allowed when the guy did an okay job playing emergency point in game 1.

by Paxson Jackson on May 1, 2007 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He played great in game 1
as the emergency PG.  Not so great in games 2-4.  I'm not trying to rip the guy, I'm just saying this is what he needs to do for the Bulls to be a successful team, and what we should expect him to do.

The deviations were Deng up and Hinrich down along with Duhon fortunately picking up some of the slack.

by bullshooter on May 1, 2007 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

duh
was awesome game 3 and 4....not so much 1 and 2

by milesgmsu on May 1, 2007 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm wary of playing percentages with Gordon
I was more concerned going into the series that he would have a game where he disappeared, and he didn't.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 1, 2007 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If that had been the thrust of your diary
I would have whole-heartedly agreed with you.

by bullshooter on May 1, 2007 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the insight
I can find some consolation that he hasn't deviated that much from his regular season stats.
  1. He is consistent
  2. He doesn't go all ball hog when he has a chance to
  3. We don't have any reason to expect a letdown in the next series (although we should fear one)

by Craig Hodges Explosion 3000 on May 1, 2007 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That line does more for Matt's argument that yours
Miami used all of the tactics that traditionally have given Gordon problems, hard traps and tall defenders, and he at the very least still matched his season averages.  Given that almost all players will fail to play as well as in the playoffs over the course of their careers.  I'll trade a 3/100s increase in A/T rate for the FT attempts.

by Scotter on May 1, 2007 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

obligatory comment about length of playoffs
The playoffs are too long, for many well documented reasons.

Okay, glad I got that off my chest.  ; )

by GWKD on May 1, 2007 9:12 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and that too
I'm specifically referring to, however, the NBA's recent practice of staggering the games too long for T.V. purposes.  And the seven game first round series, I could probably do without, with all due respect to the Mavs.  All this means that we have too much time until the next Bulls game.

by GWKD on May 1, 2007 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Given the results...
I'd say the regular season is about one game too long.

by Craig Hodges Explosion 3000 on May 1, 2007 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sir Charles...
Among my favorite things to come out of the Bulls-Heat series was Luol Deng rewarding John Paxson's faith in him.  Deng's game was just fantastic; consistent and clutch.  In particular, I kept thinking about Barkley blasting the Bulls for opting out of the Pau Gasol trade because Pax didn't want to part with Deng.

With great comtempt in his voice, I believe Barkley said at the time, "Who's Luol Deng?"

Well, Sir Charles, if you don't know by now, maybe you should ask Pat Riley.  Unlike Chuck, he has a pretty good idea.  And a few NBA championships under his belt, also unlike Chuck.

Wrecked 'em? Damn near killed 'em!

by mdmnd9294 on May 1, 2007 9:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Steve Kerr
made a pretty good point about how the future of the NBA will be less about the post and more about speed here:

If that's true, they made a very good choice to stick with the future all-star.  Another consequence I wonder about is what the Bulls do in the draft if speed is more important--no Hibbert?

by Craig Hodges Explosion 3000 on May 1, 2007 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think if he's there....
well we should know after this series if we need and big 7'2 guy to clog things up. But I would take Best player on the board which you could always use for trade bait next season. Maybe just get more athletic. Like Corey Brewer? I'd really love to see Al Horford as a bull. Deng, Tyrus and Horford as our future would look nice.
"I've never been swept before. I don't know what that means." Thats captain chunk!

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on May 1, 2007 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean
we'd have to get lotto luck first.
"I've never been swept before. I don't know what that means." Thats captain chunk!

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on May 1, 2007 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bulls need a post guy
who can score and be AN option. NOT a post guy like shaq, yao, curry, etc. that is gonna be the main option. keep the offense as it is, just happen to have another option on the floor.
DEE-TROIT, PREPARE FOR THE STAMPEDE! IT'S THE BULLS, BEWARE OF THE NEW BREED!!!

by hongydraw on May 1, 2007 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We Can Take Detroit
Gordon's playing like he's been in this league for 5 or 6 years already. Deng's showing us why we don't really need Pau Gasol. Kirk's justifying his place in the All-Defensive team. Noc's playing the same ball he did last year. Add that to Wallace, Idon't think Detroit can take their foot off the pedal this series. I really like our chances this year. We just need to play the same game we did all post-season so far and we might even go finals. And next year, we'll be even better.

Damn, it's good to be a Bull.

by blackmage71 on May 1, 2007 10:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree. Call me crazy, but I think
the Bulls are a better team than the Pistons.

I think we'll win unless the team is complacent and feels that it has already accomplished its goals for the season.

If the Bulls are as hungry and as focused as they were in in round one, Chicago in six.

by 1958ChiTown on May 1, 2007 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course they haven't accomplished
what they set out to do this season.  Every team goes into the season with aspirations of playoff and championship success (even the Bobcats!).

The Bulls are better than Detroit in some ways, Detroit is better in other ways..  both teams are the best in the conference, and I think most of you give CHI the nod simply because of the regular season when I believe it was the first "series" win for CHI since '99 (I may be mistaken, fix it NittanyBull without shoving your foot in your mouth!).  Detroit has had the playoff success recently, and have shown they can make adjustments (well at least since LB was coach) during a 7 game series (see CLE game 7 last year).

Put Detroit in a pressure situation, they come out on top 9 out of 10.  Chicago will get there soon, perhaps this series (I hope not)

by Boney on May 1, 2007 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What happens when you put
Detroit in a pressure cooker?
-
Now, I'M hungry...
From Champs to Chumps!

by Goostafer on May 1, 2007 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
They've done studies, you know
"They beat us. They beat us, period." - Pat Riley

by NittanyBull on May 1, 2007 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know
All this smells like Bigfoot's Dick.
From Champs to Chumps!

by Goostafer on May 1, 2007 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hardy-har-har
I had the game right, it's just, you know, that whole person thing that I kind of forgot. Dang.
"They beat us. They beat us, period." - Pat Riley

by NittanyBull on May 1, 2007 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The whole pressure situation
So basically Detroit is chicken?
LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by cubbybear on May 1, 2007 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was hungry
but just had a meatball sandwich.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 1, 2007 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

meatball sandwiches
are money...

by Boney on May 1, 2007 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Subway's is pretty good.
"I've never been swept before. I don't know what that means." Thats captain chunk!

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on May 1, 2007 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Players were so
damn wiry and skinny in those days.

Now we have LeBron, half basketball player, half middle linebacker.

I don't know if that is better for the game or worse.

by 1958ChiTown on May 1, 2007 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's worse...
because big guys like LeBron flop worse than little guys... LeBron flops more than Tayshaun Prince, but he has probably 30 pounds on him

by Boney on May 1, 2007 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

for your constant badgering
I hope Detroit sweeps.  I'd love to read your "forecast" for what the Bulls might do in the draft rather than watching you post about how to Bulls can come back from being down 3-1 in a series against my boys ;)

by Boney on May 1, 2007 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm no bucky badger
I just get turned off by arrogance (which is my perception, anyway) when it comes to just dismissing statistical arguments as 'crazy' and irrelevant. Especially when it's done more than once.

Nobody here takes the PERs of the roster, adds them, and then declares a winner. There's plenty of factors that mitigate what all stats (traditional and 'non-traditional') say, but that's part of analysis too.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 1, 2007 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kobe
By that stat line and some of those shots I cant be but heped reminded of how Kobe play's today.  I hate it when people says hes selfish or whatever o he needs to choose if he should dominate scoring or be a playmaker.  I am too young to know this, but did anyone give Jordan a tough time for his shot selection etc...

by Sambossanova on May 1, 2007 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know one guy that gave Jordan a hard time
and he's the VP for the Detroit Pistons now!

by Boney on May 1, 2007 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chuck Daly
Actually, Boney, it was your VP's coach who famously remarked that Jordan was so good he was "literally embarrassing the league."
For the remainder of this series, I will post only in haiku. Hibachi!

by preverbal on May 1, 2007 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How much chocolate is too much?
"We're in trouble if we lose at home. If we lose at home, you come back and talk to me and I'll tell you: 'You know what? We're in trouble.'" Alonzo Mourning

by wjb1492 on May 1, 2007 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No
Everyone just sat around picking their jaws up off the floor.  You have to understand that no one had ever seen anything like Jordan when he came into the league.  Constant domination in virtually every facet of the game all game long and in spectacular fashion.

There was some early knock on whether Jordan could make his teammates better or whether he was destined to be the next Dominique Wilkens, but no one ever questioned his shot selection.

For the remainder of this series, I will post only in haiku. Hibachi!

by preverbal on May 1, 2007 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reasons...
Check out this this article about why the Bulls beat the heat.  He makes some nice points, especially about the class the Heat showed in losing.  I really dislike the Heat in a number of ways, but I think this guy has it right in this case.
The backboard is your friend.

my blog

by simplesinger on May 1, 2007 2:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

With one exception
The only thing I didn't like about the Heat's "classy" response after being swept was a quote by D-Wade.  It was something to the effect that the Bulls were not conciliatory enough last year when the Heat won the series.

I don't think anybody on the Bulls was a jerk about it, they just honestly thought they could have won the series if a few things bounced their way.  As long as you concede defeat, it's okay to say things like that--especially when you drag it out to six games!

by Craig Hodges Explosion 3000 on May 1, 2007 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a good article
Good Read!!!
question: Why IS boney hanging around our blog-o-sphere? Did the pistons blog kick him out, or is it simply that our blog is way cooler? Is anyone here visiting the pistons blog and commenting on matters? Should we be?

okay that was more than A question

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on May 1, 2007 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh and boney
I dont mean that you should leave...i was just wondering why your here, have fun posting
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on May 1, 2007 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

piccolomair
Your Bulls comrades (I think) have accepted me...  I haven't really bashed the Bulls, and I won't out of respect for Matt the Badger.

On the other hand, I lacked respect for the Wizards' SBNation blog because he didn't know what he was talking about...

by Boney on May 1, 2007 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

honestly....
i hate the heat, whereas i only dislike the pistons. that is because the pistons actually show respect to the bulls, themselves, the regular season, and the game of basketball rather than saying they can 'turn it on in the playoffs', without having to be forced into showing respect by losing (getting swept in) a playoff series like the heat did
DEE-TROIT, PREPARE FOR THE STAMPEDE! IT'S THE BULLS, BEWARE OF THE NEW BREED!!!

by hongydraw on May 1, 2007 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

an also, i think that
'DEE-TROIT BASKETBALL' call thing whenever they get the ball is a tad annoying, in part because the crowd says it with him. although i know if the Bulls did it or if i liked the Pistons, i would probably think different and probably be saying it myself too. lol hahaha
DEE-TROIT, PREPARE FOR THE STAMPEDE! IT'S THE BULLS, BEWARE OF THE NEW BREED!!!

by hongydraw on May 1, 2007 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You need to spend more time with
some Detroit fans. It will help you work up a lather.

Although Detroit fans are barely tolerable, Cleveland fans actually venture into the territory of being intolerable.

They have been absolutely obnoxious since LeBronbronbron came into the League.

Hating Detroit and Cleveland is all about establishing midwestern supremacy.  As a matter of principle, cities like Detroit and Indy, which are cultural afterthoughts, should never be superior to Chicago in any realm.  I mean, it's the city of great architects (Burnham, Van Der Ro, Sullivan, etc.) and great writers (Sandburg, Bellow, etc.) and seminal musical movements (the blues) and great universities (NWU, UofC) and fantastic museums (Art Institute, Field, etc.) versus places that are best known for squalor and decline.  Sports should reflect this general principle. :)

 

by 1958ChiTown on May 1, 2007 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I've found on sites that feature DET comments
It's not a knock at N4S or DBB, it's just that the some of the "following" that seem to comment are the blatant blind homers that leave comments like "yeaaaaaaaaa boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii  dats how u dew itz" when Sheed hits a 3.  I despise those types of homers (unless they're homers for, like you guys, a team that regularly plays DET).  You guys know basketball...

I know Natalie and the guys at DBB can't control it.  I put comments there to try and even out the flow of "yeaaaa boiii" comments, but noone replies to my smartness ;)

Feel free to comment badger

by Boney on May 1, 2007 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Update!
The Bulls/Pistons will play this Saturday, with next one on Monday
"They beat us. They beat us, period." - Pat Riley

by NittanyBull on May 1, 2007 5:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well damn it to hell!
When are they going to announce the dates for games three and four?!

Ticket holders are scheduling their lives around these games.  

by 1958ChiTown on May 1, 2007 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I note that the link states that game one will
be on TNT. That means it wil be a night game, no? TNT doesn't carry the day playoff match-ups, correct?

This link indicates the game will be at around 8 PM EST, though the Bulls link said the time was TBD:

http://www.tnt.tv/title/?oid=665590

A night game on Saturday is not optimal. Same time as one of the best boxing matches in a decade.

by 1958ChiTown on May 1, 2007 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just thinking that
Thanks goodness I'm a brokeass, or else I'd really have to think about what to watch.
"They beat us. They beat us, period." - Pat Riley

by NittanyBull on May 1, 2007 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess this is why they
invented that "last"  button on the TV remote.

Unfortunately, the undercard only has two fights when I last saw it, so there may be substantial overlap between the main event and the Bulls game.

Bulls game takes priority, but it will be hard to see that $60 just go to waste, damn it.

by 1958ChiTown on May 1, 2007 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

P.S.
Viva ODLH.  

I badly want someone to shut up PBF. He is such a punk.

 

by 1958ChiTown on May 1, 2007 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really? I cant STAND the "Golden Boy."
Especially when he was interviewed by Merchant after he TKO'd Vargas. He had that look on his face that can just blacken a mans' soul with hate. Ugh, I don't like De la Hoya.

He's been saying he's on the verge of retiring since the Mosley fight. Just retire already.

"They beat us. They beat us, period." - Pat Riley

by NittanyBull on May 1, 2007 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't it on Pay-Per-View?
No way I'm paying 60 bucks when I can be more than content watching the Bulls.
"They beat us. They beat us, period." - Pat Riley

by NittanyBull on May 1, 2007 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed
Although it may not be one of the 'best' boxing matches, just important :-D

ah well, this is why DVRs were invented.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 1, 2007 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just heard
this on CTL.

Go Bulls!!!

My team has no "super star". It has players who have desire, determination and heart making them a "super team". GO BULLS!!!

by sue369 on May 1, 2007 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Golden State
Let's go DUBS!

by vlad001 on May 1, 2007 8:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

did you see
the false "foul" on Baron Davis? The fix was in.
DEE-TROIT, PREPARE FOR THE STAMPEDE! IT'S THE BULLS, BEWARE OF THE NEW BREED!!!

by hongydraw on May 2, 2007 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was legit
He made the mistake of throwing both hands around the guy when the refs were expecting the Warriors to  give up a foul to stop the clock.  How'd you like his flop on Terry to get the T.  Henry Abbott was bitching about that on his page and how Terry should have been thrown out.

by bullshooter on May 2, 2007 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ben Gordon
racked up a flagrant for tripping himself. Terry's shove/bodyslam/piledriver (however far you want to take it) was just a regular foul. I wonder what Jon Barry thinks about this.

by Paxson Jackson on May 2, 2007 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paxson Jackson = only 90% homer
the rest of you = 110%

by Boney on May 2, 2007 10:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Can't you
find someone within the SB Nation to adopt him? Isn't there some group home for ousted sports fans?
My team has no "super star". It has players who have desire, determination and heart making them a "super team". GO BULLS!!!

by sue369 on May 2, 2007 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

for just 5c a day, you too can help a fan in need
won't you please call? Every day there are fans out there without or ousted from a neato blog covering their team, and are forced to either mutter to themselves or join in on opposing team's fansites. It's a tragedy we live with every day, yet you can do something about it. Please help.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 2, 2007 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm 150% homer
I just have a soft spot for pro athletes that were never able to max out their potential. Not like the losers at Free Darko, 'cuz J.R. Smith really does suck, but if I had my way MLB's Larry Walker and Webber would both be Hall of Famers based on what they could achieved if their bodies didn't fail them.

by Paxson Jackson on May 2, 2007 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's incredible
Who would ever have thought that the Blog-a-Bull community would consist largely of Bulls homers?  ;)
"We're in trouble if we lose at home. If we lose at home, you come back and talk to me and I'll tell you: 'You know what? We're in trouble.'" Alonzo Mourning

by wjb1492 on May 2, 2007 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could always leave
if you guys didn't like me that much.  I just will have nowhere else to post because I can't get a nifty SBNation blog without having established one in the non SBNation-nation..

It was fun guys...  I'm sorry if my gray clouds ruined your first series win since '98 :::sad face:::

by Boney on May 2, 2007 2:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is that all it takes?
I can think of several people who you should take with you...

by bullshooter on May 2, 2007 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah
I don't care.  I figured I would bring some insight to a group of guys that seem to spend most of their time during the game fawning over who has prettier eyes, Tyrus or Noc...

It's alright though, I can find other people that are "basketball smart" to drop knowledge on.

by Boney on May 2, 2007 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you were dropping that much knowledge
I'd be inclined to tell you to stay.  All your doing is throwing your opinions out here, not even making a decent supported argument.  There are already enough of those people around here.  

by bullshooter on May 2, 2007 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sweet
c ya

by Boney on May 3, 2007 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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