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Thoughts on game won

(oh, what a title)

I get what what Chris Sheridan is trying to say, but if I were a Heat fan it wouldn't make me feel better about game 1:

"All in all, the Heat didn't have a whole lot to feel all that unhappy about after they were outplayed and out-executed for a vast majority of the game."

Um, that should make them unhappy, you'd think.

It wasn't a perfect game by the Bulls but I was extremely pleased with how they attacked offensively. Getting the ball early to Deng and exploiting the mismatch of having him guarded by Wade got them off to a good start, which may not have been that important but certainly made me feel better. Wade's not even a good defender when he's healthy, and with the bum shoulder he can't roam for steals as recklessly as he usually does. Deng was able to post him up some (considering his size advantage though, the lack of post play means that part of his game isn't ready for prime time) but also was able to lose Wade when cutting away from the ball, and as the league now knows thanks to Wade himself, Deng is one of the best finishers in the game.

Ben Gordon was also attacking the rim and finished the game with 11 free throw attempts. The Heat certainly geared their defense at Gordon, even trapping him beyond the 3-point line, and while Gordon wasn't perfect in those situations he did finish with a career-high 11 assists. The fact that he attacked the rim allowed himself to have a good game while not hitting a single 3-pointer. It used to be nearly impossible for him to be effective when his shot wasn't falling, but Saturday's effort was nearly Wade-esque in the versatility.

And this is why the Bulls got Ben Wallace. I was surprised that Wallace was guarding O'Neal single-handedly (I thought they'd use PJ and have Wallace help) but the trust paid off. Whether Wallace didn't deserve some of those calls (I forgot to tape the game (unforgivable)) or not doesn't matter, he received those calls because he's Ben freaking Wallace. 'Star' treatment is unfortunate, but at least with Wallace the Bulls now have one of their own (and we can rehash that debate over what makes a star, an all-star, a superstar, or a superduperstar, but first let me put a pistol in my mouth) who can match up with O'Neal in terms of respect from the officials. Wallace didn't even play particularly well (especially offensively, the ball movement derailed even quicker than usual when he had the ball) but at least he was there. When he's playing that means Malik Allen and Mike Sweetney aren't, and Wallace having an average game is better than going deep in the bench.

While I think Skiles stuck with Noc a bit too long (hey, it wound up working out, but I still would rather see more of this in game two),  he deserves credit for realizing how well Thabo defended Wade and made sure he (and not Duhon) was the first guard off the bench after Hinrich got in foul trouble yet again (thankfully Griffin is still hurt, heh). This is stating the obvious, but Thabo was able to use his long arms and poke at Wade's dribble, disrupting him in a way that Duhon can't. As an added bonus he even hit some shots. But unlike people who are watching the Bulls for the first time, one bad game isn't reason to give up on Kirk. The Bulls turned out not needing him on Saturday but they will. I don't get whey it's so easy to throw a major contributor like Kirk under the bus but the bad players get a free pass. That could just be high expectations, I suppose, but Kirk isn't the problem, and giving Thabo minutes from a worse player (like Duhon) will help the team with no needed effect on Hinrich's place in the rotation. The beauty of a series opponent is (hopefully) Skiles sees no reason to change: Duhon should no longer get assigned to Wade the rest of the way.

Along with Kirk's struggles, the Bulls have other reasons to laugh at the idea that they can't play this well again. They shot 3-17 from three, and I don't remember them being especially hard looks either. For reference, Antoine Walker himself went 4-7 from distance. He was able to be the third option for Miami, but that was likely by design as Walker is awful and anything that gets him more shots should be encouraged. And I thought in terms of shot making that both O'Neal and Wade made a lot of difficult shots. Even single-covered, O'Neal was forced to work, and Wade was pretty much kept away from the rim, both by injury and the Bulls defense.

The finish was uncomfortably close. But, hey, in a season where the Bulls close-game execution has been questioned, they managed to hold on. Those are the types of finishes where the Heat should have the advantage, trading possessions with Wade (granted, Shaq had fouled out by then) leading the free-throw parade. But he was held in check, and the fact that it was a close loss should be more discouraging than encouraging for the Heat. They got the type of game they wanted at the end, and lost. If the Bulls continue to play this well there may not be many more close games at all.

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nice summary
I agree would have been nice if Bulls won going away but I saw potential for Bulls over Heat in series based on game 1.  Keys as I see it
  1. Deng continuing to be agresive vs Wade on offensive end.  Even if Deng doesn't have classic post game he should be able to attack rim with his long arms and height.
  2. Thabo, Thabo, Thabo.  Its what Bulls drafted him for and what us fans have been waiting for.  His long arms, height and atheletic ability absolutely bothered Wade on D.  Wade will always score but Bulls threw him and Miami O off.  I can't wait until someone works with Thabo in attacking rim on offense to dunk, he might be real good next year.
  3. Wallace out of foul trouble.  Shaq scored early but BigBen remained on floor (45mins) and less double teaming means other Miami guys don't get easy baskets.  Its the classic story of slow down star a little and just don't let role players beat you.
  4. I think Hinrich will be fine.  Value of Bulls depth is they don't always need all players to score
  5. I do like Thomas energy and speed on the court to make big plays but you can't knock what Noc did or hold it against Noc that he isn't Thomas.  I think Thomas will get more run and can be a factor too.  Deng isn't going to play 46 mins every night and with Kirk out Skiles probably went to more Noc for some outside shooting
Anways can't wait for Tues, sorry for long comment, I'm so excited as I really think Bulls can have good playoffs.  Only problem I see is if refs call game vastly different.  There were tons of charges in Game1 but overall I thought fairly called on both sides.

by NY Chicago Fan on Apr 22, 2007 7:50 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NY, I think I found
your arch enemy.

Unless you're a Bulls fan during the afternoon and Warriors fan by night, then nevermind.

PLAYOFF TIME. LETS GO CHICAGO!

by NittanyBull on Apr 22, 2007 11:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nope
not me, but nothing against Warriors, I love basketball and their pace is fun to watch

there is probably room for both of us in NY, although Bulls all the way

by NY Chicago Fan on Apr 23, 2007 12:01 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Be careful what you wish for
Skiles could assign Duhon to Shaq, or even worse - "Embrague Resistente De Flopper De la Arena" could end up on Wade.

by Paxson Jackson on Apr 22, 2007 8:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Spurs update:
Denver's up 8 with 1:09 to go
PLAYOFF TIME. LETS GO CHICAGO!

by NittanyBull on Apr 22, 2007 8:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Game over. Spurs lose.
This series should be good.

I am very interested to see how the next game goes. Was Golden State's domination of Dallas a regular season illusion, or is it truly a favorable match-up for the Warriors?

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 22, 2007 8:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This Golden State-Dallas game
is one of the most chaotic playoff games I have ever seen.

Baron Davis has gone insane.

I don't know if the Warriors can keep this up.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 22, 2007 10:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not to detract from the argument or anything
but getting back to the original post, I thought that article sucked.  Did he have nothing better to do than rip the home guy?  Anyway, I did think it was kind of funny that what he saw as basically an outright lie (Kirk's comment that the mouthpiece slipped), others have been commenting on as sarcasm.  Maybe he just doesn't know Kirk well?

There was a negative article about Kirk by Jay Mariotti, too, but I've come to kind of expect it from him.

by wjb1492 on Apr 22, 2007 9:51 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate
Jay Mariotti. Ozzie Guillen was right about him.

by SRQman on Apr 22, 2007 9:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anybody else watching DAL/GSW?
I really thought the hype of this game was B.S.(I thought that the Mavs would be the only team to sweep in the first round) But WOW, the Warriors are up by 6 heading into the 4th.
PLAYOFF TIME. LETS GO CHICAGO!

by NittanyBull on Apr 22, 2007 10:37 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'va watched them all season
They like to run, and they have had injuries all season, but they do give the Mavs a tough time. Very exciting to watch! they are up by 7 in the 4th. Dallas will fight back and it'll come down to the end.

by Goostafer on Apr 22, 2007 10:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah
GS is sweet! Very athletic but not very smart.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Apr 22, 2007 10:46 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This game is insane
So was the Spurs/Nugs game. Baron Davis is freaking lighting it up.

by SRQman on Apr 22, 2007 10:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

also
anyone else think Matt Barnes is the craziest white boy this side of Scott Pollard?

by SRQman on Apr 22, 2007 11:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah
i am retarded. All i saw was the tatoos and mohawk and started cracking up.

by SRQman on Apr 22, 2007 11:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really liked the full-court press that Nelson
did.  

WOW, Barnes with the 3!

PLAYOFF TIME. LETS GO CHICAGO!

by NittanyBull on Apr 22, 2007 11:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This game is crazy
I hope Golden State can pull it off just to hear Mark Cuban bitch.

by SRQman on Apr 22, 2007 11:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't believe GS is going to win this.
This is incredible. It must be awesome to be a Warriors fan right now.
PLAYOFF TIME. LETS GO CHICAGO!

by NittanyBull on Apr 22, 2007 11:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ya they must be going crazy
Baron Davis was huge. OMG he just nailed another. Look at all the Dallas fans already leaving. ROFL this is awesome.

by SRQman on Apr 22, 2007 11:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Baron Davis is playing like one of
the best five players in the NBA.

Damn. This just might, might, turn into a series after all.

Warriors really seem to have the Maverick's number.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 22, 2007 11:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What a great
playoff weekend. Bulls game was good.

Only games that really sucked was Cavs vs. Wiz and Pistons vs Magic even though the Magic were still in it for a while.

GS/Dallas and SAN/Den were great games to end this weekend.

Lets go Bulls we gotta take Game 2,3 and 4

by SRQman on Apr 22, 2007 11:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cavs game was great
just because lebron rolled his ankle.  

by brianmita on Apr 22, 2007 11:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whoops
my apologies to Dwyane Wade then? It wasn't me screaming out 'shoulder' whenever he was in contact with another player, I swear.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 23, 2007 2:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WOW!
What a game! Baron was ridiculous! Good for Golden State! And at the same time, Good for Denver!

by Goostafer on Apr 22, 2007 11:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Suns have got to be smiling right now
With both Dallas and San Antonio losing today - even if both teams win those series (which they probably will), they could be looking at long series.  I highly doubt the Suns will have any similar problems with the Lakers.

by Big D on Apr 22, 2007 11:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Davis
Baron has always been really talented but injuries (and maybe questionable playing shape from some accounts) have hidden his abilities for lots of his career.  He's a big pg that can really score and shoot when he is on

With current hand checking and zone rules Golden St may have chance with small ball, Dallas needs to find way to make them pay on boards / inside

by NY Chicago Fan on Apr 22, 2007 11:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Moved (demoted) Diary
JoeJoe checks in:
Ok great we took game one,  which was in my opinion the most exciting playoff game so far. I think out of all the playoff series this has to be in the top two or 3 if not number one most entertaining series.

        Game two is so big because it can make home court or break home court. Bulls need to hold home court. I thought the Bulls got some lucky calls down the stretch but they should have won by 25 had they made open shots. They seemed to go flat at the end, unless your Andres Nocioni I mean. Now I remember why I love him. They say Hinrich is the rock of the team but Nocioni is the heart. Cause the rock wasn't doing shit. Gent Kirk killed us. His defense was discusting letting GP beat him on the dribble? Ok if it's just once but all day he was letting guys get by him. Im worried about game 2. I just hope they stay foucused and play team ball.
Dallas has a handfull by the way. I love seeing Mark ''Ceaser'' Cuben cry! Dallas looks old as does SA.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 22, 2007 11:26 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

speaking of diaries
I have no problem with you guys creating seperate diaries for the other playoff games that are going on.

Just for commenting flow purposes, if anything.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 22, 2007 11:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very well said Matt
You have calmed me down a bit.  I still think that Game 2 will be a critical one in this series.  One of the two teams will plant a flag in the ground during that game.  I think it will be a very different game than the first.  The Walker factor is key to my renewed confidence.  Miami wasted what will likely be his best game of the series.  The question is, do they have anyone else who can step it up?  The Bulls defense this year is superior to last year - it's subtle when watching the game, but it's also clear.  So who on the Heat can beat us?

Kapono got zero open looks; the Bulls are staying at home on him (good idea, that).  Posey didn't do much of anything in the first game, nor did Haslem.  The question is, are these guys ready to step up and make plays?  I don't think the Bulls are letting them because of the improved defense. Posey got open looks last year.  He did not on Saturday.  The same goes for Haslem.

Couch's article was totally hacky.  I was moved to send him a somewhat aggressive e-mail (I blame the four beers at the Lifetime/Draft show tonight).  You summed it up well, Matt.  Clearly he has not been watching this team...

by corey williams corey benjamin on Apr 22, 2007 11:53 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Posey has a good game in him
Really it's more about Wade/Shaq having great games, the other players can't get open on their own.

According to Miamians, apparently Eddie Jones is a long-time playoff choker. I had not known that.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 22, 2007 11:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rosenbloom is on the anti-Kirk bandwagon, too
"Speaking of Hinrich, no game, no mouthpiece, no backing up his big talk about Miami. Interesting three-point play, don't you think?

Ben Gordon moved to the point and had 24 points and 11 assists in the win. The so-called "poison pill" part of Hinrich's contract ends this summer. Kirk Hinrich, your plane is boarding."

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/rosenblog/2007/04/bulls_win_but_h.html

I expect that Kirk will have a nice game in at least one of the next two, someone else will have a lousy one, and the media bandwagon guys will move on to their next target.  Funny how the detractors for the various players always come out after a bad game, but you so rarely hear from them after the good.

by wjb1492 on Apr 23, 2007 11:30 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it would be interesting
to see the Bulls really bombard Wade for a couple minutes, and live with 'Toine/Kapono/O'Neal making shots. I'd like to see this lineup for a little bit on Tuesday, see how it works:

Hinrich
Sefo
Deng
Thomas
Wallace

With everyone else, I really liked how Sefolosha played against Wade: he really seemed to put him off any kind of rhythm. I think him and Hinrich can cause some real trouble if they double-team him from time to time. Thomas, to me, seems like a dunk/lay up scorer right now( with not much length with his shot) which I think could get 8-10 easy points for the Bulls. Just a thought, anyhoo.

PLAYOFF TIME. LETS GO CHICAGO!

by NittanyBull on Apr 22, 2007 11:54 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Miami shows more respect (i guess)
probably the closest thing to respect we'll see out of them. Shaq-daddy (or whatever you want to call him or he would like you to call him as he calls himself) and the rest of the Heat still say they agree with what they said, although at least now they are admitting that they made some mistakes, instead of saying it was the refs fault.

http://www.nba.com/nba_news/Heat_down.html

SHAQ-DADDY, PREPARE FOR THE STAMPEDE! IT'S THE BULLS, BEWARE OF THE NEW BREED!!!

by hongydraw on Apr 23, 2007 12:24 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is a virtual smorgasbord of
Bulls coverage in the Trib and Suntimes this morning, including an article by Mariotti on Deng's character and background.

It would not surprise me one bit if Mariotti watched his first full game on Saturday.

He acts like his take on the Deng story is brand new.

Meanwhile, it looks like Riley will attempt to implement a new, more physical defensive style (read: thuggery) on Tuesday night. Posey may guard Deng.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 23, 2007 9:40 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Posey should guard Deng if they're smart
Having Wade out there not at full strength really puts the Heat in a pickle defensively though. Either he guards Deng and gets abused, or guards Gordon with a likely similar result. They can't realy rely on him to play the point either, so that may rule out guarding Hinrich...although maybe they'd be better off with that and leave Jason Williams on Gordon? Damn their perimeter defense sucks.

If only Don Nelson was coaching them they would put Wade on Wallace.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 23, 2007 10:04 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True.
What if they did this when Noce was in:

Put Jones on Gordon, Posey on Deng, Wade on Nocioni.

That's really not a bad defensive set of match-ups for Miami.  Not perfect, but not terrible. Offensively, they would still have Wade and Shaq out there, with Posey to hit open threes on double teams.

Adopting your position for a moment, the Bulls would almost be compelled to take Nocioni out in that situation, putting PJ or Thomas back in.  Wade presumably couldn't guard either of those guys in the post. At the very least, we would have a huge edge on the boards. Miami would have to bring back Haslem and rotate Wade to Deng or Gordon.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 23, 2007 10:18 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll say this about Noc
if he saw wade on him he'd go right to the basket. Wade would then flop and then it's up to the Refs :-)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 23, 2007 10:31 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yup
I doubt Wade wants to have to try and take a hard charge and we all know Noc would probably try to run him over or just do that accidently.  Whoever Wade guards on the Bulls has to be agreesive and go at him

by NY Chicago Fan on Apr 23, 2007 5:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Positive stuff from cbssportsline.com
http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/10141609

"5. The officiating in the Bulls-Heat game was bad. It wasn't atrocious, given the amount of contact and flopping going on, but the video evidence won't be used to train young officials any time soon. That being said, Chicago overcame the absence of Kirk Hinrich for practically the entire game, and Miami actually rallied to go on a run when O'Neal and Wade sat side-by-side for a large chunk of the fourth quarter. Don't blame Game 1's outcome on the refs. Chicago deserved the win.
...
9. Tyrus Thomas and Thabo Sefolosha used their first playoff games to make me look like a complete moron. I believe I gave the Bulls something like a D-minus for their 2006 draft, because I really felt their man should've been LaMarcus Aldridge, and I underestimated Sefolosha. So this is me saying I was wrong. In fact, I'm deeming it one of the most regrettable things I've done this year, and I have a lot of repenting to do. Thomas brought great energy and caught the Heat with a solid right to the stomach with his block-and-dunk flurry in the second half. Sefolosha bothered Wade. He was right in his pocket, and he showed no fear. Both Chicago rookies were impressive, proving to be unexpected X-factors."

by wjb1492 on Apr 23, 2007 11:24 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re: #9
That's why you don't give out draft grades.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 23, 2007 12:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or better yet
that's why you dont give our moronic draft grades

how well did charlotte do....exactly

by milesgmsu on Apr 23, 2007 2:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Ben Wallace part
was wrong. Good recap though. Last year, Shaq got the same offensive fouls called on Tyson and Luke. That two headed monster had no superstar credibility whatsoever. I think Wallace was brought in to cool the youngsters down in the playoffs and not get them too caught up and be off their game. And for plays like the tip to Lu at the end of the game.
The only Yi Jianlian fan here

by Option27 on Apr 23, 2007 11:46 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I will take close wins
over close losses any day. If we win by a close margin so be it.

Who cares what Greg Couch thinks of Kirk? Christ it was one game. Kirk's coaches, team mates and fans know what he brings to the game.

I am really nervous about the game tomorrow night. I don't expect it to be anything like Saturdays game.

Note to Shaq...there is no crying in basketball.

by sue369 on Apr 23, 2007 12:01 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

im only nervous
because i beleive that its going to be a blowut one way ro another

i like what skiles said to kirk, who was purposelsy hanging around away from the reporters "kirk, you gotta face the music, man"

by milesgmsu on Apr 23, 2007 2:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Skiles said it
in fun. The team gave Kirk a group hug (teasing him) and he was a man and did talk to the media.
Note to Shaq...there is no crying in basketball.

by sue369 on Apr 23, 2007 3:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just for Matt.
And I will admit I lost my sh*t when this happened.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3OtKHGNotY

Gotta love Tyrus in the black shoes and socks.

I want to see him drop another 27 like that Cleveland game.

Actually, a double double like the one he had againsts the Pistons would be fantastic.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 23, 2007 12:03 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From Hollinger today
This is what he had to say about Shaq

1. The whining must stop: It's playoff season, and that means it's whining season. If you lost a close game, rest assured that it's because of the refs and not your own failures.

The Pistons have the worst reputation for this, but of late perhaps nobody has become more insufferable than Shaquille O'Neal.

Look, I'm a Shaq fan. I think he's been unfairly jobbed out of multiple MVPs because writers always are looking for a David to beat Goliath, and on his good days he's one of the game's most entertaining spokesmen.

But just once, could he lose a playoff game without complaining about the refs or opponents flopping? Shaq's completely predictable whine after Chicago's Game 1 victory was notable as the postseason's first (though unfortunately not it's last) postgame pity-fest.

"My intention was to come out and be myself, until Eddie Rush derailed me," O'Neal said. "It's just unfortunate that people fall for that."

If you're keeping score, the Eddie Rush he referred too is the same veteran official who looked at Eddie Jones and motioned for him to get up after the Miami player's failed flop attempt in the third quarter. Sounds like a real sucker.

And while we're checking facts, here's another interesting one for you, Shaq: Two of your fouls came when you tried to flop. Remember those?

And just so we're on the same page: If you turn your elbow into Ben Wallace's face, he's going to fall down. That's not flopping, that's physics.

"He says that about every team, so I wouldn't put too much into that," Bulls coach Scott Skiles said about Shaq's complaints, and he's absolutely right. Remember, O'Neal was spouting the same excuses last year when the Bulls won Games 3 and 4.

The fact is, O'Neal's declining conditioning is what's causing the foul trouble. He averaged a foul every eight minutes this season; if he keeps that up in the playoffs, foul trouble at some point in a game will be the rule, not the exception. Which means we should get ready for more whining.

The only Yi Jianlian fan here

by Option27 on Apr 23, 2007 12:21 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More MSM reaction:
Chris Broussard:
The Bulls give the Heat so many matchup problems it's not funny. They defend Dwyane Wade better than anyone in the league and on Saturday, they won with Kirk Hinrich scoring just 2 points in 19 minutes. Their physical play has to be scary for Wade. The Bulls are better than they were last year, and the banged-up Heat are worse. I picked Miami so I'm sticking with the Heat, but I could easily see Chicago prevailing.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 23, 2007 1:03 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn't take him long
to lay the argument for waffling.

by bullshooter on Apr 23, 2007 2:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

eh
I don't care much about prognostications. They're journalists, just tell me a story about the game.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 23, 2007 3:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is it just impossible to front the post against
Shaq?

Is he so big that everyone fears he would just catch a lob and finish?

So far as I can tell from watching the replay, Wallace only tried it once or twice in the first half.

Man, I do not want Shaq to have a huge game two.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 23, 2007 2:54 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

IIRC
I remember Wallace trying it with Brown coming to help, and then Brown comitting the foul.

As a rule the Bulls like to front, and Ben doesn't like it. Who knows if it was Ben's will or the team strategy.

I don't think Shaq is capable of having many 'huge' games anymore based on his age and conditioning. We'll see.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 23, 2007 3:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hinrich's 4th foul
I saw it while sitting next to the pool while sipping on a drink, so my memory is a little hazy, but at the time it didn't seem like the best call, or as obvious as some are making it out to be.  Seemed to me Wade ran into Hinrich as much as the other way around.  The Sun-Times seems to just be killing Hinrich for some reason.  JoeJoe, do you write for them or something?

by bullshooter on Apr 23, 2007 3:49 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bulls Must Win: game 2
Bulls must win on home court and steal at least one in Miami, if Miami wins Gm 2, then they have accomplished exactly what they desired.  

All of the temporary glorying will then be replaced with a sense of urgency.  Bulls, now must take the next step in championship mentality and "will a victory" on their home court in Gm 2 or else this team will temporarily be stuck on stagnant (little progress from last year) if they lose.  

Bulls must match Riley's tough D, and refs calling the game differently with a welcome challenge and overcome whatever Miami or Refs throws at them.  

Deng will need to grow up now, and understand that the Bulls have not accomplished anything, more, yet (in regards to reaching the next level in playoffs) from last year!  

by exult463 on Apr 23, 2007 6:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jesus Christ
I hate that I admire punctuation and respect it. It affects my reading when I'm looking at garbage.

This is one of the worst comments on the Internet I've ever read. (offense intended)

by tyger1147 on Apr 23, 2007 7:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cut the brother some slack
maybe he's foreign.
I pass like BG yo!

by preverbal on Apr 23, 2007 8:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

alternatively,
he could be related to joejoe.

by bullshooter on Apr 23, 2007 8:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's not just the punctuation...
If it was just that, I would have went on my business like all the other 5th-grade quality drivel going on within the blog-world.

Read it again. Try to understand the points, if you can. It's complete garbage. It sounds like a mixture of pep-talk and shit-talk.

If Miami wins tomorrow, they get exactly they want. Really? I thought they would have wanted two wins in Chicago.

Bulls need to be ready for whatever Miami (a) and the refs (b) throws at them. (a) I would hope so. (b) How does one prepare for that?

Match Riley's tough D? Didn't know he was playing.

The refs calling the game differently is a welcome challenge. Doubt it!

Championship mentality and stagnant with one loss?!?! Say what? I don't get it.

Deng needs to grow up and know the Bulls haven't yet accomplished "anything"... Gotta be honest here, guys: I've never read anything that he thought differently.

by tyger1147 on Apr 23, 2007 9:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha, somebody finally snapped
That wasn't even that bad punctuation-wise, but yes...all the cliches and other such nonsense were too much.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 23, 2007 10:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dunno...
Deng will need to grow up now, and understand that the Bulls have not accomplished anything, more, yet (in regards to reaching the next level in playoffs) from last year!

There's a lot of commas, periods and parentheses... that's true. But they all seem to be placed in the oddest of spots.

by tyger1147 on Apr 23, 2007 10:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well I'm used to
The fun and random character combinations of JoeJoe and Miles

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 23, 2007 10:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I will interpret: Bulls Must Win Game 2
"It is critical for the Bulls to win Game 2 on their home court and then steal at least one in Miami.  If Miami wins Game 2, they will have accomplished their main goal of seizing home court advantage from the Bulls.  They would likely be satisfied with the split and would head home with confidence.

In that event, all of our current satisfaction and excitement will be replaced by concern and an undercurrent of urgency.  

The Bulls have the opportunity now to take the next step in their pursuit of a championship by putting forth a determined effort and securing a victory on their home court in Game 2.

Otherwise, the Bulls will put themselves at risk of another first round exit and a sense that their progress as a team has stagnated.  

The Bulls must be prepared for a more intense defensive effort from the Heat, and must also be flexible enough to adjust if the game is called differently by the officials in light of the Heat's griping.  Hopefully, the Bulls will accept this as a welcome challenge and rise to the occasion.

Deng, after having a breakout playoff game in a breakout season, now has the chance to cement himself as an elite player by maintaining his offensive aggressiveness and production.  I hope both Deng, and the Bulls as a whole, perform as though they understand that they have not yet accomplished anything greater than last year, when they gave the Heat a scare but ultimately succumbed in the first round."

I pass like BG yo!

by preverbal on Apr 23, 2007 11:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or in Haiku
Bulls must win Game 2
If they do, glory awaits
If not, stagnation
I pass like BG yo!

by preverbal on Apr 23, 2007 11:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Incredible...
Had it been said like that, I would have been happy. Not only did you read what he/she wrote to translate it (which is more than likely once more than he/she read of their own writing), I'm guessing you read through yours as well. I can live with that.

I like the Haiku as well. Another way would have been, "It's only one game; the Bulls, especially Deng, need to come out aggressive in Game 2."

Just about anything could have worked. Anything other than what was written.

by tyger1147 on Apr 23, 2007 11:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

quality control
I'm growing tired of your complaining about complainers routine too.

by Paxson Jackson on Apr 23, 2007 8:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm growing tired of you
talking like you know the most out of everyone here.
PLAYOFF TIME. LETS GO CHICAGO!

by NittanyBull on Apr 23, 2007 8:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you should stop now
because something bad is going to happen to you again.  I can smell it.

by bullshooter on Apr 23, 2007 8:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is that a threat?
PLAYOFF TIME. LETS GO CHICAGO!

by NittanyBull on Apr 23, 2007 8:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No threats
but if it was me, I wouldn't want to be the butt of any more running jokes.

by bullshooter on Apr 23, 2007 8:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, if you were me,
you wouldn't be PaxJax's Robin. Off to Batman's aid once again, eh? Ridiculous.
PLAYOFF TIME. LETS GO CHICAGO!

by NittanyBull on Apr 23, 2007 8:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't agree with Bullshooter often
Nothing is wrong with calling out a cretin, or someone who insults the intelligence of the readership because they can't handle all the letters on a keyboard.

by Paxson Jackson on Apr 23, 2007 8:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

eh, mostly
Unfortunately, no matter how many passive-agressive jabs myself and others land, some users here don't have enough respect for themselves (or this site) to, ya know, give a quick read over what they typed. We all make typos and grammatical and spelling errors, but I think we can all point to some who just couldn't give a shit to be coherent.

So I'd actually prefer ignoring them, but making fun of them works too. So yea, Nittany, I don't see the point in defending such comments unless you actually agree with the points made. Standing up for the cause of rambling just hurts things overall, methinks.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 23, 2007 10:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I'll gladly read over most of the stuff...
I mean, it's my fault for reading comments made a on frickin' sports blog; I'll accept the blame and ignore things for the most part.

But that one, I just couldn't ignore. I think I get mad when I don't understand something. And not just because someone is smarter than me or a concept is difficult to grasp, but when it's a combination of bad thought and poor punctuation.

I guess I just see it as insult to the general public (of which I belong) to not at least quickly proofread comments. So I choose to insult back. My (in)sincerest apologies.

by tyger1147 on Apr 23, 2007 10:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's not like I don't value the points you make
when you do post them, but is offering jabs at new posters really that necessary? It makes me think of the other people that visit this site but would rather not post because of the barraging you sometimes give them.

As for bullshooter: don't confuse with being the "butt" of a joke with not wanting to talk about anything other than a post on here, or basketball.  I'm more than glad to offer a quick jab on the chin once a while, especially when it's you. Honestly, do you look over my posts? Hey Robin, how many times have I commented on here?

PLAYOFF TIME. LETS GO CHICAGO!

by NittanyBull on Apr 23, 2007 10:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Again
if you'd been around a little longer, or paying attention, you'd know that guy wasn't a new poster.

by bullshooter on Apr 24, 2007 9:33 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You can do better NinnyBull
You obviously haven't been around long enough to realize that PaxJax is my Scottie Pippen.

by bullshooter on Apr 23, 2007 9:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I remain unimpressed by Detroit.
I think the Bulls can beat them in six or less...

If we get past the damn Heat.

Fear the stripes.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 23, 2007 9:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it seems the Heat give a little more respect...
...as the days go on. In this article at the bottom, Riley said Deng should have been an All-Star.

http://www.nba.com/nba_news/deng_heat_070423.html

SHAQ-DADDY, PREPARE FOR THE STAMPEDE! IT'S THE BULLS, BEWARE OF THE NEW BREED!!!

by hongydraw on Apr 23, 2007 9:51 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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