Open Thread: Nets at Cavs

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 12, 2007 6:20 PM CDT in News

TNT tonight. A New Jersey win is doubleplusgood for the Bulls, as the Cavs would fall 1 game back of the Bulls for the #2 seed, and the Nets closer to the #6 seed (pushing Washington to #7 and into the Bulls welcoming arms).

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Nice reference

too bad the second half of the book sucked.

Hopefully tonight turns out better.

Obama 2008 Obama 2012

by Colossus on Apr 12, 2007 6:42 PM CDT 0 recs

Motivation

I would love to see the Nets win but looking at the standings

http://chicagosports.sportsdirectinc.com/basketball/nba-standings.aspx?page=/data/nba/standings/2006 -2007/league/standings.html

I don't see the Nets having the same motivation as Cleveland. I just hope that the Nets give a good effort against the Knicks in the two upcoming games on the 13th and 16th.

by Incognito on Apr 12, 2007 6:43 PM CDT 0 recs

If the Nets lose

do you think they are more or less likely to beat the Knicks tomorrow?

by chgobr on Apr 12, 2007 7:53 PM CDT up 0 recs

depends on how the game goes

if it's close and hard fought, I think the Nets have a harder time tomorrow. If it's a blowout, the Nets come out more focused tomorrow. Was that the obvious answer?

by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2007 8:25 PM CDT up 0 recs

Good answer

The latter occurred so I hope they come out strong tonight against the Knicks.

by chgobr on Apr 13, 2007 7:59 AM CDT up 0 recs

Open Thread, too bad

Before the game starts, I'd like to point out this as the most retarded assessment (read the comments too!) of the Bulls... ever. Jay Mariotti and Greg Couch are jealous ('cept they can actually write).

I'll shit on others from my blog again one day, but I haven't had the motivation.

by Paxson Jackson on Apr 12, 2007 6:46 PM CDT 0 recs

Not even Mariotti

could top that pile of shit.

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by Colossus on Apr 12, 2007 7:00 PM CDT up 0 recs

I did enjoy the Jack Cobra article that Lupica

was so upset with

http://www.3manlift.com/content/view/196/1/

by chgobr on Apr 12, 2007 7:59 PM CDT up 0 recs

that guy's a jag-bag too

I forgot for a second if the Knicks played in the NBA, then he reminded me. And "anyways?" Puh-lease.

by Paxson Jackson on Apr 12, 2007 8:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

Whoa, whoa, whoa

I saw some incoming hits from here on my site so I headed over here to stand up for myself....what's up? haven't been around for awhile, sorry

For the love of God, rebound the ball.

by Jack Cobra on Apr 12, 2007 8:20 PM CDT up 0 recs

note the levity in my comment

by Paxson Jackson on Apr 12, 2007 8:32 PM CDT up 0 recs

I didn't pick up on it...

It wasn't made with bullet points.

For the love of God, rebound the ball.

by Jack Cobra on Apr 12, 2007 8:45 PM CDT up 0 recs

oops...

There wasn't any!

by Paxson Jackson on Apr 12, 2007 9:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

I fucking hate Lupica.

by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2007 8:26 PM CDT up 0 recs

Yeah...

I can't say I'm a big fan when he talks shit about the Bulls.

For the love of God, rebound the ball.

by Jack Cobra on Apr 12, 2007 8:30 PM CDT up 0 recs

I didn't see his comments

and I can't seem to find them, and I probably don't want to read them either. But I don't like to be close minded. Links?

by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2007 8:40 PM CDT up 0 recs

Link..

is here: http://stopmikelupica.com/2007/04/on_the_bulls_future_of.php

For the love of God, rebound the ball.

by Jack Cobra on Apr 12, 2007 8:44 PM CDT up 0 recs

are we differentiating between

Mike Lupica and the blog 'Stop Mike Lupica'...

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 12, 2007 8:40 PM CDT up 0 recs

That thought just occurred to me, too.

Ha! I despise the real Mike Lupica, which makes it seem like "Stop Mike Lupica" and I should be de facto buds. What a conundrum...

by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2007 8:46 PM CDT up 0 recs

I don't like

The real Mike Lupica all the time. I don't like StopMikeLupica when he writes that stuff about the Bulls. He's cool at all other times.

For the love of God, rebound the ball.

by Jack Cobra on Apr 12, 2007 8:48 PM CDT up 0 recs

Ok, I did read that

And it was pretty lame, but it was probably his duty as loyal knick fan to write that Junk. Thanks for sticking up for the Bullies, but I don't think it was necessary. Much like colossus and now granville around here, it's better to ignore that rambling drivel. The best response would have been, "sure, whatever, but seriously, thanks for the picks."

by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2007 8:52 PM CDT up 0 recs

Good Point

But his was in response to mine.

For the love of God, rebound the ball.

by Jack Cobra on Apr 12, 2007 8:55 PM CDT up 0 recs

then by all means

keep up the good work.

by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2007 8:59 PM CDT up 0 recs

I did see that crap

At least the FreeDarko post he points to wasn't meant to be taken seriously. (It wasn't, right?)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 12, 2007 8:39 PM CDT up 0 recs

Hilarious

I respect Bill.

Okay, I admit it: Tyrus Thomas could dunk on me.

by preverbal on Apr 12, 2007 11:06 PM CDT up 0 recs

'Stop Mike Lupica' needs to stop

In chronological order:

http://stopmikelupica.com/2007/04/in_defense_of_eddy_curry.php

http://stopmikelupica.com/2007/04/on_the_bulls_future_of.php

http://stopmikelupica.com/2007/04/why_john_paxson_hates_isiah_th.php

There's so much wrong here (and PaxJax already posted about that second 'article') piece it's just sad. Almost makes me like Mike Lupica...

I left a comment on that last post if you're interested (and if it gets approved by the administrator, sheesh)

Open question: is there really such a groundswell of high projections for the Bulls that such a reactionary (YEah! If thur soo smart why did they TRAde JR. SMYTH?!?) sentiment? From what I've seen most people are in a 'wait and see' approach for the Bulls this postseason, and rightfully so.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 13, 2007 11:18 AM CDT up 0 recs

'such a reactionary sentiment is needed

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 13, 2007 11:20 AM CDT up 0 recs

Ok?

I must have been confused on what the message boards were for around the net. Just going back and forth a little bit over there. Sorry for the embarassment. I'll run it by you next time before I type anything Bulls related. Well, you and PaxJax.

For the love of God, rebound the ball.

by Jack Cobra on Apr 13, 2007 11:38 AM CDT up 0 recs

If you get something right

I can't mock it later.

by Paxson Jackson on Apr 13, 2007 12:20 PM CDT up 0 recs

Funniest thing about the whole bruhaha

This is exactly the kind of lame ass argument Mike Lupica would make.

by bullshooter on Apr 13, 2007 12:31 PM CDT up 0 recs

Ah....

I thought as long as I didn't use bullet points we were cool. Guess not. Either way, don't think there was anything wrong on my end. Mock away mocker.

For the love of God, rebound the ball.

by Jack Cobra on Apr 13, 2007 12:37 PM CDT up 0 recs

um, that's not your site

I'm talking about stopmikelupica, mr. Cobra.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 13, 2007 1:20 PM CDT up 0 recs

Open mouth, insert foot

my bad. My sugar level must have been gettting low here at work

For the love of God, rebound the ball.

by Jack Cobra on Apr 13, 2007 2:11 PM CDT up 0 recs

Orwellian

Fear the moderator who quotes 1984. Only bad things can come of this.

by paxson43 on Apr 12, 2007 6:49 PM CDT 0 recs

We have never been rivals with Detroit

we have always been rivals with New York.

Obama 2008 Obama 2012

by Colossus on Apr 12, 2007 7:01 PM CDT up 0 recs

Jinx

Every Bulls board is rooting like crazy for the Nets tonight that I just know the Cavs are going to win.

And if they do lose by some miracle, the Bulls better not look past one of their remaining opponents.

by nas on Apr 12, 2007 6:51 PM CDT 0 recs

My God, this game is awful

This is like a Bucks-Celtics game where both teams are tanking. The scary part is, both these teams actually are trying to win.

by Big D on Apr 12, 2007 8:16 PM CDT 0 recs

I feel myself slipping into a coma

How is it even possible that I care more about this game than anyone on the freaking court?

Cleveland FT shooting 37.5%, including 2/6 from LBJ - they keep it up, people will have to stop picking on BW.

by wjb1492 on Apr 12, 2007 8:21 PM CDT up 0 recs

Seems unlikely that New Jersey will prevail.

Are they even trying to win?

How can a team with Carter and Kidd play so poorly?

I truly despise LeBron. Really.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 12, 2007 8:19 PM CDT 0 recs

Game Over

Looks like the Cavs are pulling away so I'm out of here. Keep up the good work gents.

For the love of God, rebound the ball.

by Jack Cobra on Apr 12, 2007 9:01 PM CDT up 0 recs

"Steve wonders...?" cracks me up

Once, when having sex in a tractor trailer, some of Andre the Giants' sperm got into the engine. We now know that tractor as Optimus Prime.

by NittanyBull on Apr 12, 2007 9:01 PM CDT 0 recs

PaxJax cracked me up

when he said your sig was straight from planet Dork.

by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2007 9:10 PM CDT up 0 recs

Wow, its you trying to start something again.

Usually, when someone is on my ass this much like you, I have take her out to dinner first.

Once, when having sex in a tractor trailer, some of Andre the Giants' sperm got into the engine. We now know that tractor as Optimus Prime.

by NittanyBull on Apr 12, 2007 9:13 PM CDT up 0 recs

Ha!

That doesn't happen very often, does it... You're making this too easy.

by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2007 9:15 PM CDT up 0 recs

Don't confuse what I do with my girlfriend

from what you don't do...with anyone.

Once, when having sex in a tractor trailer, some of Andre the Giants' sperm got into the engine. We now know that tractor as Optimus Prime.

by NittanyBull on Apr 12, 2007 9:16 PM CDT up 0 recs

verbally jousting with you

is definitely more interesting than the game. But c'mon, you have a girlfriend?

by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2007 9:20 PM CDT up 0 recs

Jeeze, this got out of hand way too quickly. Sorry

Last thing I'm going to do is continue this unnecessary commenting, and try to take personal shots at you(I'd like to think you're actually adult enough to stop also), when I'm here to talk about basketball. Sorry bud.

Once, when having sex in a tractor trailer, some of Andre the Giants' sperm got into the engine. We now know that tractor as Optimus Prime.

by NittanyBull on Apr 12, 2007 9:27 PM CDT up 0 recs

Speaking of crappy sports blogs

Apparently the Cavs just sent the Bulls a BIG message.

by Paxson Jackson on Apr 12, 2007 9:31 PM CDT 0 recs

That blog is pretty high

on the SG Unintentional Comedy Meter. The best part is when he gives the Cavs magic number for clinching the second seed.

by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2007 9:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

Jesus, man...

You are all over the blog-o-sphere or whatever you peeps call it. Congrats, man! (This is half-sarcastic, half-serious.)

by tyger1147 on Apr 12, 2007 9:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

support his habit

it's to our benefit (and amusement, and enjoyment). Uh oh, chitown has a diary up about superstars.

by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2007 9:48 PM CDT up 0 recs

It's

google blog search on an rss feed. I even get deadspin comments in my inbox to scoff at.

by Paxson Jackson on Apr 13, 2007 9:05 AM CDT up 0 recs

I liked the message Cavs sent tonight.

There was the "Look, we beat NJ by 18 and you only beat them by 31! Oh, wait a minute..." message.

Then there was the "Fear us, we scored 9 more points than the Knicks in the first half" message.

I liked the magic number, as well, having never seen a magic number for a team that's behind - not to mention the logical difficulties of a "magic number" of 4 with only 3 games left...

by wjb1492 on Apr 12, 2007 10:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

Magic number logistics...

If you're trailing, the magic number to catch a team, or in this case pass, is the combined number wins by you and losses by the team ahead of you.

If the Cavs win 3, the Bulls only have to lose one.
If Cavs win 2, Bulls have to lose 2 to be caught.

With the Bulls magic number of three, if the Cavs lose three, so could the Bulls, but they'll end up tied, with the tie-breaker for Chicago.

Maybe it's the "complexity" that makes these numbers "magic."

by tyger1147 on Apr 12, 2007 11:36 PM CDT up 0 recs

Seriously

Tell me how that quarter got in my ear!

Watch your head, Tyrus!

by cubbybear on Apr 13, 2007 1:35 AM CDT up 0 recs

I get how number to clinch works

Maybe it's just the standings I choose to look at, but I just meant that the standings I look at give the number of wins by team and/or losses by team behind to clinch the top spot.

I guess a better way to say it is that I'm accustomed to only seeing a "magic number" for a team that controls its own fate, not for a team that needs the team ahead of it to lose. So to me it is idiotic for Cleveland to be talking about its "magic number" when it can't possibly do enough on its own to get there (hence my comment on 4 wins with 3 games left).

Nice explanation of the half game W/L thing - I've tried to explain that to people before and had no success. That and the idea of being so many games over .500 seem to be confusing to my friends, but since most aren't sports fans I suppose they couldn't care less how many games over .500 the Bulls are!

by wjb1492 on Apr 13, 2007 11:53 AM CDT up 0 recs

okey dokey dominokey

I guess a better way to say it is that I'm accustomed to only seeing a "magic number" for a team that controls its own fate, not for a team that needs the team ahead of it to lose.

Definitely understand what you're saying. But, by definition, a magic number includes two teams.

If the Bulls are ahead of a team by one game with both teams having 10 left, sure you can say, "If they just win the last ten, they'll win the division." But they obviously don't need to do that if the other team loses one game, or two, or so on. It's much more prescient to watch for the combined number of Bulls wins and Team Trailing losses, as that's more likely to happen.

Man, I love making mountains of molehills. I didn't know "molehills" is a real word. But my spellchecker, which apparently not a real word, says it is.

by tyger1147 on Apr 13, 2007 12:25 PM CDT up 0 recs

Wins have been..

hard to come by for the Cavs recently, we need to celebrate every one we can!!!

Fear The Sword

by FearTheSword on Apr 13, 2007 10:34 AM CDT up 0 recs

Let's sign Luke Walton this summer

if Noc gets too expensive.

Obama 2008 Obama 2012

by Colossus on Apr 12, 2007 10:34 PM CDT 0 recs

He just can't do any more soaps

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by Colossus on Apr 12, 2007 10:35 PM CDT up 0 recs

As long as we're still open-threading

Even for those surprised that Hinrich could, indeed, become a star at Kansas, the NBA seemed out of reach. Again, though, Kirk proved them wrong, becoming a starter early in his rookie season. He has almost never been out of the lineup ever since.

Still, he hasn't allowed a lucrative contract to change his approach to basketball or his life away from the game, generally speaking. Nor does he hang back on the bench, milking that final pre-game introduction for a little more crowd noise.

The consummate team player, he is already halfway to the huddle on the court before the public address announcer has completed an emphatic, "Kirk HINE-RICK!"

It's all about the team and making sure his contributions help the team progress.

This will indeed make my end of the season list and diary in the gloopiest article category.

by Paxson Jackson on Apr 13, 2007 1:33 PM CDT 0 recs

c'mon

that's sue's hometown paper and she probably wrote the article, what do you expect?

by bullshooter on Apr 13, 2007 1:56 PM CDT up 0 recs

did you see the first comment on the story

I think sue might burn that guy's house down tonight.

by bullshooter on Apr 13, 2007 2:04 PM CDT up 0 recs

Haha

Can you really blame him for wanting to get out of Iowa?

Obama 2008 Obama 2012

by Colossus on Apr 13, 2007 2:10 PM CDT up 0 recs

If Sue is any indication

I'm sure Iowa is full of Hinrich critics.

by Paxson Jackson on Apr 13, 2007 2:20 PM CDT up 0 recs

That was weird.

I swear I've read comments like that before here. Around trading deadline. I forget his name, but the kid had a caps lock problem and had to get kicked out a few times. Funny.

Get with it!

by Goostafer on Apr 13, 2007 10:13 PM CDT up 0 recs

Dumbass Kevin

is his name.

Obama 2008 Obama 2012

by Colossus on Apr 14, 2007 12:02 PM CDT up 0 recs

Thanks Pax!

It's not my hometown paper but still a nice article. wjb and KT will enjoy it too.

Actually I never followed Kirk or Nick in college because they did leave the state to play. When Kirk became a Bull I had to start cheering for him.

Watching Zach Johnson beat Tiger Woods was a thing of beauty.

by sue369 on Apr 13, 2007 2:55 PM CDT up 0 recs

LOL - I did enjoy it!

Also have to agree it was pretty gloopy in places - nothing Kirk said, but some of the descriptive stuff around the quotes. If it were about anyone else I would have been cringing at some of that stuff, so guess that's where the homerism comes in.

But I have to say, I have noticed that he's always already on the floor before they finish the introductions!

Sue, I guess we round things out, because I didn't know he existed till he signed with KU. :)

by wjb1492 on Apr 13, 2007 6:22 PM CDT up 0 recs