Trade deadline eve thoughts
UPDATE: Found a new rumor: Bulls are interested in the Bucks' Brian Skinner. Former Bull! (for about a day). He has a team option for '07, makes around $5m. Just a standard 'big' (note: by 'standard' I mean he's pretty useless except for being big. I don't see it as an upgrade over even Allen or Sweets)
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Man, the past two days were not the most convenient ones to be kept away from computer access all day. Luckily there were no actual deals that would've required time-sensitive discussion. Just plenty of rumor.
Marty Burns of SI.com wrapped up today's chatter in a neat little package. I'll grift out the Bulls info:
For what it's worth, the NBA also announced over All-Star Weekend that the Grizzlies would be playing an exhibition game in Spain next fall. Would David Stern & Co. have agreed to send Memphis over there without at least some indication from Jerry West that Gasol would still be around?
Meanwhile, rumors of a Zach Randolph deal for Chicago have begun to regain steam. Randolph is just the kind of low-post scorer the Bulls need, and his Michigan State background fits with coach Scott Skiles. However, his past character issues, lack of defense and big contract make it doubtful Paxson would mortgage his team's future on him. Besides, the Blazers continue to insist they aren't trading Randolph. Chicago might instead make a run at Shareef Abdur-Rahim, who has been platooning with Kenny Thomas in Sacramento.
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While much of the focus has been on big names, it is beginning to appear as if this year's trade deadline might feature more small deals. Chicago's Chris Duhon [is] among the names that have been bandied about.
Who knows when it comes to Gasol. It's been bantered about so much in the past few weeks, I think my thoughts are pretty well known (to summarize: trade the lesser assets and/or the Knicks pick-I don't get you draftphiles sometimes- but don't deal Deng/Hinrich/Gordon). One thing that still digs at me every time it's mentioned is the idea of the 'core' consisting of four players, including Nocioni. I think that's a completely ridiculous evaluation of Nocioni in comparison to Deng/Hinrich/Gordon (the actual 'core'). So when the idea of trading two of that core is mentioned, one can hope at the very least that Nocioni is automatically one of those. I'm still hoping that the deal can be done without the three in their 'true' core. I'm going to guess (or hope) that Pax isn't budging on including Deng/Hinrich/Gordon. It seems to me what it'll come down is how bad Memphis is hurting financially, and as a result how much pressure is being put on by ownership to move Gasol. There's been indicators all over that spectrum though, making it as hard to figure as the whole trade rumor itself.
So if Gasol's out, and KG is completely off the radar. Do the Bulls have a contingency plan?
As Burns mentions, one lesser name is Shareef Abdur-Rahim. The Sacramento Bee (hattip to hoopshype) is mentioning a source regarding this as well, as does Mike McGraw's column today (although that one is only speculation). Tom at Sactown Royalty has a couple posts regarding this, although he seems to think getting that Knicks pick would be part of a deal. I sincerely doubt that. Abdur-Rahim does have 3 more years on his deal, but it's at a relatively low price. One major issue is his health, as the knee problems that had New Jersey backing out of a deal for him before last season has crept up often during this season. And while he is a post scorer, he's also undersized.
While also undersized, Zach Randolph does make sense (for even less than what I'd offer for Gasol, obviously) because he's potentially a star talent. But I'd be happy with such a pursuit only if the Bulls know ahead of time that they can 'control' (don't like using that word, but you know what I mean) him. I'm not sure having Skiles show off his Michigan State letterman jacket really would help much, but I trust that the organization is doing their due diligence to find out if he'd fit in personality-wise. And while that statement may cause some to roll their eyes, Randolph is signed for $17.3m in 2010-11, so I'm all for being really sure he'd fit in before acquiring him. Blazers president Steve Patterson laughed the idea off, for what that's worth.
A similarly bad apple has entered the radar screen today: Bonzi Wells. He may not be a big, but he does score in the post. And even if he's spent most of the season out-of-shape and in VanGundy's doghouse in Houston, the risk is minimal: he's a free agent after the season, not only meaning no future salary obligation but perhaps a nice contract-year push. Hey, if Tim Thomas can do it for the Suns, why not Bonzi for the Bulls? The Houston Chronicle's Jonathan Feigen mentions the Rockets need for a veteran point guard. Hmm...I can think of one who I wouldn't mind seeing leave...
(That's right, no post goes without a shot at Duhon!)
Anyway, I'm pretty excited for tomorrow: big deals or small it's one of the more fun days of the year. I'm at the point where I'm so drained from reading all the rumors I'd be surprised if anything big (Gasol) actually happened. Using their boatload of expiring deals was the plan going into this season, but if it can't be done reasonably, so be it. It's better than making a huge mistake...and a minor deal would be a nice way to help the team and perhaps help re-energize them towards the Eastern Conference crown. As the saying goes: trust in Pax.(right?)
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I hope Bonzi hasn't blown up
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Feb 21, 2007 9:52 PM CST reply actions
Don't worry the Bulls will put Bonzi on the same
bonzi did nail that three at the end of the quarte
im kidding of course
Pfft
by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Feb 21, 2007 10:05 PM CST reply actions
thinking big is good.
Just want them to all go away soon so we can concentrate on the actual games.
The East just got more wide open
not sure what you were thinking
by bullshooter on Feb 21, 2007 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
It was expected
by vlad001 on Feb 21, 2007 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry that wasn't clear.
Am I an asshole for not feeling sorry for them?
Feeling sorry?
by vlad001 on Feb 21, 2007 11:56 PM CST up reply actions
Wade
by vlad001 on Feb 21, 2007 10:41 PM CST reply actions
Wells? Rahim? I can't take this anymore.
This is crazy the Bulls almost got Muhammed. Talks broke off.Thats all we need is an over paid guy named Muhammed who can't catch.
Wells? Im not sure I get that one. Unless they make a few trades?
Wells hits a half court shot. Trades off.
Rahim for Sweets would be a nice upgrade.
I have no idea whats going on after reading those articles in the Tribune. This is a mess. I don't even this Paxson does.
Luol Deng, Thabo Sefolosha, the expiring contracts of P.J. Brown and Michael Sweetney and a top-three protected first-round draft pick?-NO THANKS SAM SMITH.
by JoJoEnglish94bulls4ever on Feb 22, 2007 12:45 AM CST reply actions
This should be our low ball trade off
Andres Nocioni
#1 Draft pick
Sweets
Brown
by JoJoEnglish94bulls4ever on Feb 22, 2007 12:51 AM CST reply actions
If the Bulls.....
by JoJoEnglish94bulls4ever on Feb 22, 2007 12:57 AM CST reply actions
looks like Rahim?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dailydime-070222
by JoJoEnglish94bulls4ever on Feb 22, 2007 1:58 AM CST reply actions
baahhaha
....how uneventful! Hopefully its just the organisations keeping secrets well ;)
by rquinsee on Feb 22, 2007 3:12 AM CST up reply actions
Wade may be out for 6 weeks
If he is, the Heat are finished.
"Numfar, do the Dance of Joy."
by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Feb 22, 2007 6:26 AM CST up reply actions
I'm so pissed off!!!!
at least hinrich can become the mains spokesmen
wades fave 5
Orthopedic Surgeon
PT for the Heat
Sling Maker
Shark Oil Salesmen
Shaq
there no more jokes
im going to hell
but anyway, if he fucked uo his shoulder he might never be the same...at least his outside shot cant get much worse...ok i had one more
Wade injury...
by Repeat Threepeat on Feb 22, 2007 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
Did you see him cry?
by JoJoEnglish94bulls4ever on Feb 22, 2007 8:46 AM CST reply actions
Kidd back to Suns?
by JoJoEnglish94bulls4ever on Feb 22, 2007 9:52 AM CST reply actions
traffic cop
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2007 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
New rumor
http://www.journaltimes.com/nucleus/index.php?blogid=24
meh.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2007 10:22 AM CST reply actions
blech
;)
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Feb 22, 2007 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
NO THANKS
by JoJoEnglish94bulls4ever on Feb 22, 2007 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
heh
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2007 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
Crazy talk!
Memphis gets major cap relief plus Gordon who is cheap and could help fill seats
Clips get rid of Maggette, get a good scorer (Miller) and a big guard (Sefo) in case they wind up dealing Livingston down the road (because he, uh, isn't that good)
Bulls get the big man they need (Gasol) plus a bigger scoring 2 who can replace Gordon's scoring and is no worse than BG at defending
Just passing time until the trade deadline...
Oh I
by JoJoEnglish94bulls4ever on Feb 22, 2007 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
That 3-way
Neither one of those deals are going down. Maggette's contract is nice if he can produce though...
somewhat older rumor
Obviously the Bulls don't want Croshere, but the idea of getting a third team involved is interesting, as Croshere has a big expiring contract (like Brown), and perhaps a team likes Croshere more than Brown as a player (since they have similar contracts).
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2007 10:56 AM CST reply actions
Hmmmmm
by JoJoEnglish94bulls4ever on Feb 22, 2007 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
The CHI-MEM-LA
by rednomore on Feb 22, 2007 11:07 AM CST reply actions
Are you trying to create
by JoJoEnglish94bulls4ever on Feb 22, 2007 11:10 AM CST reply actions
If the three way doesn't work
Doesn't solve our post problem, but that won't stop Maggette from driving to the basket and getting to the line, where he is deadly. His contract ($21m over next 3) is much better than what Ben will hold us up for after the season.
by rednomore on Feb 22, 2007 11:12 AM CST reply actions
the Bulls would be saving money
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2007 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
well
SportsNation Chad Ford: (12:23 PM ET ) I can't see it. Abdul Rahim has too many years left on his contract ... doesn't fit with the Bulls cap flexibility strategy.
From Si.com
* Gasol appears to be staying put in Memphis, although it could change with one phone call. Bulls GM John Paxson has been playing his cards close to the vest, but is not expected to change his mind about giving up Luol Deng or Ben Gordon in a trade for the Grizzlies' 7-footer. Paxson has been checking on the availability of other power forwards around the league (Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Nick Collison), according to sources, which could mean he's seeking a backup plan to help Chicago land a low-post threat. Despite reports to the contrary, the Bulls have no real interest in Zach Randolph, according to sources.
I would love to have Collison.
I would love
So would Kirk
However, it sounds like the Sonics have no interest in trading anyone on their team (makes no sense) and Collison has been playing really well lately.
The trade deadline has passed.
Now Sam Smith has to write about something other than fictional, concocted, inane trade scenarios.
This is our team.
Let's talk basketball.
First up, the Cavs. We have played putrid basketball in Cleveland recently. I hate that team and that second class city.
I'm getting sick of our team
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2007 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
shoulda used quotes
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2007 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
in time...
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2007 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
I am not sure who you are referring to
Obviously, it's clear that you don't like Duhon, but it is equally clear that he has been playing well since the Bulls started their second West Coast road trip.
You also appear to disdain Noce, which is hard to understand. The team has struggled in his absence. We miss his scoring off of the bench.
Who else qualifies as scrappy?
I think about these things in very simple terms. I grew up in Chicago. I live in Chicago. I've been rooting for the Bulls for as long as I can remember. I have season tix and, like everyone else here, I watch all the games. The trade deadline has passed. This is our Chicago Bulls team. This is it. This is the only team the Bulls will have this year. This is the team only I will follow.
It doesn't seem to make much sense to needlessly criticize the players on the team I root for. I just hope they play hard, play intelligently, improve steadily over time, and win.
Boo-urns.
by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Feb 22, 2007 2:09 PM CST reply actions
What does "Boo-urns" mean?
It's from "The Simpsons"
by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Feb 22, 2007 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
We are only missing a piece
Losing is losing
by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Feb 22, 2007 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
And winning is winning.
We've been winning a lot more and losing a lot less than we were three years ago.
Too bad
by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Feb 22, 2007 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
I presume you are talking about the playoffs.
In any case, I fully expect to advance out of the first round of the playoffs this year. It has been the explicit goal of the franchise all season. Skiles mentions it once a week.
right now
Here's an interview
http://www.nbawire.com/boards/showthread.php?p=643455#post643455
no trades - for now
problem is
by Sambossanova on Feb 22, 2007 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
wait...what?
Really?
yea
by Sambossanova on Feb 22, 2007 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
It will be interesting
The bulls should have gone for j-rich
http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1172123296202440.xml&coll=1
It would be a calculated risk since he has been injured and innefective but if he could be had for a cheap price than he is a potential scoring big guard. We dont know if he is still explosive but until his injury he was one of the league's rising stars that was starting to score 20-25 a night.
Blah! This is turning out all bad.
Please tell me we didn't trade Tyson Chandler for PJ Brown.
Please tell me PJs $8 million a year will not be going to Ben Gordon.
Please tell me Ben Gordon can do more than hit threes (when he's hot).
Please.
by rednomore on Feb 22, 2007 5:08 PM CST reply actions

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