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Open Game Thread #28: Bulls at New York Knicks

[Thanks again to bullshooter. Like a Noc defensive rotation, better late than never, right? -Matt]

Unless Matt is working feverishly elsewhere, here's a game thread.  Curry has been benched and David Lee is the starter.  Jamal Crawford is out with a finger.  I look for BG to continue to emerge from early season doldrums and the Bulls to take advantage of the Knicks general dysfunction.  Also, it'd be nice if the Bulls could get a lead in the second half so that some of the guys could get a more extended look.

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About time!
Have I ever told anyone that I hate Isiah and the Knicks?

by boerwinkle on Dec 30, 2007 11:12 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

looks like
"Matt" Duhon showed up for this one.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 30, 2007 11:19 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Last two possessions show the difference between
Bulls from last year to this year.

Knicks get all the loose balls and Bulls make the stupid passes and fouls.

by boerwinkle on Dec 30, 2007 11:23 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

When does Joe Smith get yanked
for stupid turnovers?  And what the hell is Aaron Gray doing as the 1st big off the bench.

by Scotter on Dec 30, 2007 11:31 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

It actually
lets Wallace matchup with David Lee.  It's an interesting idea.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 30, 2007 11:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If Tyrus just had 2 turnovers, 2 fouls
and done nothing else in 7 minutes, he'd never see the floor in the 2nd half.  Will Gray play in the 2nd half?

by Scotter on Dec 30, 2007 11:50 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Will Gray play in the 2nd half?
Considering he's the biggest guy on the bench and can match up against Curry...
...he'll play
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 30, 2007 11:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That isn't a good enough reason.
Curry isn't the 2nd coming of Wilt.  And even if he was, Gray couldn't doing anything about.  Gray's big body did a whole lot of good agaisnt Bynum.

by Scotter on Dec 30, 2007 12:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You may forget
Bynum can jump and has more talent than......uh....Gheorge Muresan.
"Fans never fall asleep at our games, because they're afraid they might get hit by a pass." -George Raveling

by cubbybear on Dec 30, 2007 5:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

who was TT going to matchup against?
Randolph?  Curry?  David Lee?  All of those are bad matchups for TT.  Orlando presents much better matchups for TT.  Let's see how much time he gets tomorrow night.  It's not like TT consistently puts up big numbers.  He's too hit or miss right now for a team trying to find its way.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 30, 2007 9:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

who would match up with Thomas?
I think he's better than a 'matchup' player.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 30, 2007 11:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hinrich is back?
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 30, 2007 11:39 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Good quarter.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 30, 2007 11:39 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Noah in
how was that a foul on Gray?
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 30, 2007 11:40 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

What's with all the traveling calls?
Are all the bigs playing this sloppy or are the refs just being really picking today?  I can only get an audio feed on this (visiting people without tv) and can't really judge the calls.  

Looks like Noah is in now.  

by cranscape on Dec 30, 2007 11:41 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Noc is in.
Throwing up shots right and left.  I guess our shooting percentage is going to drop.  :)

by cranscape on Dec 30, 2007 11:41 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Bulls are passing well,
but are getting absolutely killed on the offensive boards.

If they could just keep the Knicks from getting second chance points, they can easily blow the Knicks out. They run terrible offensive sets and look a step slow in comparison to the Bulls players ( and benching Nocioni-aka Count Chuck-Alot wouldn't hurt either ).

by RogersPark Kris on Dec 30, 2007 12:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate Violett
She always makes call against Bulls
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 30, 2007 11:43 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

They're playing well
I just hate seeing NBA players make those bad passes.

by gobulls1124 on Dec 30, 2007 11:49 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

you can see the difference between gray and noah
doesn't look like noah is strong enough to keep randolph out of the post where gray could keep curry out.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 30, 2007 11:52 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

but Noah is quick enough to get steals
out at the 3pt line.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 30, 2007 11:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Red is getting upset
and rightly so, the bulls can't get a call on that end...
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 30, 2007 11:57 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Officiating is bad
I bet someone bet for the Kniks win :-)
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 30, 2007 12:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Like Azabulls said
Violet sucketh....she's DOES seem to have a hard on for the Bulls....wonder if one of our guys broke her....heart or...something...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 30, 2007 12:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

nah
She is just incompent.  

If David Stern really wanted to improve referring in the NBA, she'd be gone.

by KT on Dec 30, 2007 1:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Stacy sure seemed to have a good time
making fun of her, though.
"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Dec 30, 2007 1:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Is that fair? :)
She's a very easy target.  

by KT on Dec 30, 2007 1:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I missed the first six minutes. Did Du or Gordon
start?

Core playing well.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 30, 2007 12:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Du started
But Gordon came in pretty quick.

by cranscape on Dec 30, 2007 12:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Du started
hit a couple of threes.  BG came in at about 6 min I think.  
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 30, 2007 12:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I did too
I think Hinrich played well

by gobulls1124 on Dec 30, 2007 12:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hear
boo birds are flying in MG.Nice.
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 30, 2007 12:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Noc and Wallace
Having Noc and Wallace out there at the same time doesn't seem to be working.  We need a big in there to get rebounds and that isn't Noc.

by cranscape on Dec 30, 2007 12:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He played well couple of games
but not lately.When core is playing good-he's not.
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 30, 2007 12:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty good half.
Noc remains off his game, though.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 30, 2007 12:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Get Noc out of there.
He is killing us!  Why the hell doesn't he play TT?

by chgobr on Dec 30, 2007 12:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Good point.
I hope we blow them out in third and see our Tyrus "Run" Thomas :-)
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 30, 2007 12:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bulls getting killed on the boards
and I'd be surprised if we see Tyrus in this game.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 30, 2007 12:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Now thats the 60 million wallace
i want to see

by bullsfaninla on Dec 30, 2007 12:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

If one thing has improved since
Skiles' departure, it's Wallace's effort.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 30, 2007 12:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure about stats
but he's shooting free throws btter.
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 30, 2007 12:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And how about
2 fadeaway jump shots?:-)
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 30, 2007 12:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess
but he seems like when he's out there so long it gives him more excuse to take posessions off. Maybe they're just throwing him a bone, more minutes = more rebounds, after all :)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 30, 2007 12:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Shooter is right, we are getting
hammered on the boards.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 30, 2007 12:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

With Noah in for Smith
Maybe his added size will help stop the Knicks second chance points.

by RogersPark Kris on Dec 30, 2007 12:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

It's amazing
how relaxed Kniks bench looks.Everyone is smiling and joking.You may think that they have a record 20-7 and sure gonna win today.
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 30, 2007 12:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Noah
Making some noise baby!

by givepaxahug on Dec 30, 2007 12:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Nice quarter
Time for the "Fire Isiah" chants to start.

by Big D on Dec 30, 2007 12:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Really nice quarter.
Wallace playing well.

And Noah getting some significant minutes. Boylan demonstrating that he will stay with a rookie if the rookie plays well.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 30, 2007 12:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

"Pushing the ball"
strategy is working.Good third quoter.
Now lets see TT and Noah together.
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 30, 2007 12:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The Knicks look horrible.
We would be losing if we played against a better team.  Too many jump shots.  Thank God they are falling.  I hope we don't let them back into the game.

by chgobr on Dec 30, 2007 12:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Dude, come on.
You have no way of knowing whether we would be losing to another team.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 30, 2007 12:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You are correct
I retract that statement.

by chgobr on Dec 30, 2007 12:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i wouldn't retract it
the Bulls are beating an awful team, it doesn't teach us anything about their level. barely beating the Bucks at home doesn't either.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 30, 2007 1:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We're beating NY badly.
By nearly 20.

That tells me we are playing well.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 30, 2007 1:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree
blowout in this game is expected and appreciated.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 30, 2007 1:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Crap
Here comes Andres "Chuckioni" back in

by RogersPark Kris on Dec 30, 2007 12:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Red's adoration of Aaron Gray
is soooooo pathetic. just emblamatic of a try-hardy team. At least when Celtics fans cheer for Scalabrine they're joking.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 30, 2007 12:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

It's clear that you hate Gray, Matt
What are you gonna do if Gray turns out to be a bonifide NBA player?
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 30, 2007 1:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

if he's an NBA player
then he doesn't need to get cried for after every travel or foul.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 30, 2007 1:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

All they need to do is
play like they were playing last year.That's it!
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 30, 2007 12:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap the Knicks are bad
How overweight is Eddy Curry?  It's frightening to think that the man has a heart condition.

by Big D on Dec 30, 2007 1:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Eddie's whole offensive game
revolves around shoving his fat ass and backing down  his defender into position where he can just lay it in. He has no real move toward the basket.

by RogersPark Kris on Dec 30, 2007 1:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No need for the
two consecutive TO's, Gordon.

Other than that sequence, though, he is having a great gamr.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 30, 2007 1:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

And we thought Wallace had quit
Randolph makes him look like a gritty, Aaron Gray-like overachiever.

by Big D on Dec 30, 2007 1:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

4 min
up by 19.Let TT in!
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 30, 2007 1:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they should sit Wallace for awhile.
They will need him to have some energy tomorrow to defend Howard.

(The thought of Howard being defended for long stretches by Gray or Noah makes me scared-sad.)

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 30, 2007 1:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

a MAN's dunk
that didn't count.
Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Dec 30, 2007 1:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not even that upset with Gray playing
over Tyrus in this game, the Knicks have fat dudes to match up with (in theory).

But why Noc keeps getting so much time is more bothersome.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 30, 2007 1:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't agree with you more....
maybe Boylan is playing him a lot in hopps that his foot will flare up...    :-)
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 30, 2007 1:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bwahaha!
catch 22
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 30, 2007 1:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

now Stace is on the MAN train
Skiles is watching wondering what these morons were saying about him for 4 seasons.
Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Dec 30, 2007 1:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Everyone on the court has played well...
except Noc.

His shooting over the last month has been terrible.

I think Boylan has made a decision to sit Tyrus, though.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 30, 2007 1:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

at least Noah's playing
I'm almost glad Tyrus isn't only coming in for garbage time. But why Joe Smith is still out there I have no idea.

Pax should be fired if he used his entire '06 drafte netted 3 DNP players.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 30, 2007 1:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wallace is still out there
If Boylan keeps playing him this many minutes, he's going to have nothing left by February.  They're up by 20; why is he out there?

by Big D on Dec 30, 2007 1:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Exactly. Especially with Orlando
up next.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 30, 2007 1:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

gentleman's agreement
I'm sure Boylan's talk with Wallace was a guarantee of minutes if he just gave a damn. I doubt Wallace cares about the heavy load, it just means more rebounds for him to pad his awful stats. He doesn't know we operate per-posession :)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 30, 2007 1:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Its hilarious how furious Red gets
with anything regarding Gray

by bullsfaninla on Dec 30, 2007 1:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

LOL
There goes Johny going nuts on Gray for the travel. Let's be honest, he has a man-crush on Aaron.

by RogersPark Kris on Dec 30, 2007 1:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

5 TOs
if minutes were truly 'performance based', Gray would be on the bench next game.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 30, 2007 1:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but
EVERYONE on the Bulls turns the ball over....look at BG...Kirk...Noc...
The list goes on...and on...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 30, 2007 1:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate Kniks
but I feel sorry for them :-)
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 30, 2007 1:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Tyrus must have fucked a coach's wife.
He can"t even get in during garbage time. LOL.

Oh, well. So long as the Bulls keep winning without him, he'll remain anchored to the bench.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 30, 2007 1:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

And I thought the Bulls had problems
In retrospect, Skiles should have been fired immediately after losing that game to the Knicks.

by Big D on Dec 30, 2007 1:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Tomorrow is a real test.
It would be a huge win.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 30, 2007 1:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Tomorrow is the first real test of the Boylan era!
If Aaron Gray guards Dwight Howard we are in trouble.  I hope TT gets in the game tomorrow.  We are going to have one heck of time guarding Howard.

by chgobr on Dec 30, 2007 1:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Memo to Jim Boylan:
Do not, under any circumstances, even think about putting Aaron Gray in the game tomorrow to guard Dwight Howard.  Nothing but bad things will happen.

by Big D on Dec 30, 2007 1:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just thought I'd point out
that, at this moment, Bulls are not in last place in the Central.
"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Dec 30, 2007 1:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Didn't get to
see all of the game. I recorded it and will watch it after the Bears game.

Glad to see they won. Two in a row. Woo hoo!! Sounds like BW played well.

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Dec 30, 2007 1:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like Tyrus was the coach killer!
Maybe Skiles was forced to play him and TT couldn't get it.

I know it's just two games but....

by hhi on Dec 30, 2007 2:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

There must be a story behing TT not getting in the
game.  Boylan should have put TT in for Noc in the second quarter.  We cannot prosper long-term with so many jump shots.

by chgobr on Dec 30, 2007 2:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

COACH KILLER!!
Maybe Boylan told Pax that I'll take the job if I don't have to play TT unless he earns it!

by hhi on Dec 30, 2007 2:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Changed my blog address check her out
http://sixtitles.blogspot.com/

For whatever reason Matt keeps blocking me here but hey it's his blog.

Anyways before he blocks me again I think the Bulls should try to deal Nocioni assuming they keep playing well and moving the ball like this. I don't think Nocioni has a great basketball IQ and if you could get a scoring 2 with size I think that could do wonders for this team. Seeing as Sefolosha won't set the world on fire offensively and he's looking more like a project. If they can continue to play well then maybe getting a slashing 2 guard who can get to the foul line should be on Paxsons list of things to do.
I really like what Boylan is doing here so far. As much as you guys bash Gray I think you have to be fair because you do have to account for his size which creates some spacing. He also seems to pass well to open shooters. So damn give the guy some props he was second rounder I think this guys a great find by Paxson. When I watched him in the preseason I thought he was going to contribute and give Wallace more chances to play his natural 4 spot where he can wreak havoc on the boards. But yeah the team really needs a slashing guard and of course an inside guy but thats hard to find and I'm not sold on Pau Gasol but who knows. I think they should try to inquire about Magette he would fit in perfectly on the Bulls. He slashes and can knock down the 3 ball. Oh he can also get to the line. Anyways checkout my blog.

by JoeJoe on Dec 30, 2007 3:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You're going to see a lot of Gray tomorrow
the scouting report is to foul Howard, he's a mediocre free throw shooter.  TT might be matched up with Lewis, depending on how Noc does on his first 4 minutes and 8 shots...
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 30, 2007 3:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

"rookie call!"
-Red.

Bulls lose by 25 tomorrow.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 30, 2007 3:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

boo
if howard shoots like he did yesterday and gray doesn't give him a cheap fouls, I wouldn't be surprised if the bulls pulled out a close one.  Howard played 41 min and was 5-12 from the line.  If BG keeps playing like he is, I like their chances.  In fact, I think BG has a much better shot at the all-star game as a sixth man than he does as a starter.  
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 30, 2007 3:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

3 game win streak for the magic.
the game is at home so I think the Bulls have a shot. The key to beating the is to foul Howard and stop Nelson's penetration and the guards have to rotate and stop the three balls. Big Ben needs to rebound. I would think putting Tyrus on Howard at times could give him some problems, well atleast the Tyrus Thomas from last season could have. Where have you gone Tyrus Thomas?

by JoeJoe on Dec 30, 2007 4:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Believe Nelson is still out
Carlos Arroyo has been playing starting PG. Played pretty good in their overtime win against the heat the other day. we're gonna have a problem if we double howard a lot, Hedo and Lewis are deadly from the arc

by bullsfaninla on Dec 30, 2007 4:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Bulls should use the old Shaq
rule that PJ used to go with. Use the 18 fouls with Tyrus,Noah and Gray and sit on the wings so the Orlando bombers can't get those open looks off a howard double. Like the Patriots do it by taking away what the other team does well. I would think you'll see more of TT and Sefo considering how athletic Orlando is.

by JoeJoe on Dec 30, 2007 5:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Kirk had
a good game too. No TO's. Very nice to see. Hope he continues to play well.
Win, just win.

by sue369 on Dec 30, 2007 3:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Damn
yeah when he takes shots in rhythm he looks like a different player.
My question is why did he stop in the second half? He needs to be more offensive minded. Good game by Kirk!

by JoeJoe on Dec 30, 2007 3:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Kirk
That post on Kirk was for Sue, not you JoeJoe.

by SlamDunk on Dec 30, 2007 6:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Kirk
I think you'd better get a tape and look at the entire game. His shooting was horrible in the second half, only bricks. Clyde Frazier also mentioned that Hinrich was passing up open shots and over passing. This guy is so overated it's a mystery that he hasn't been given a quick hook when he goes into his funk. Ben Gordon was the star of the show. He was terrific.

by SlamDunk on Dec 30, 2007 6:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You are entitled
to your opinion but doesn't mean you're right.
Win, just win.

by sue369 on Dec 30, 2007 6:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sue
Just get hold of a tape on the game and it will be clear as day.

by SlamDunk on Dec 30, 2007 6:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I watched it.
He missed some shots. He made up for that in other areas (no TO's and no fouls) of the game. That is very good for Kirk. You aren't going to agree with me on anything so stop now.
Win, just win.

by sue369 on Dec 30, 2007 7:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair
Hinrich did play a decent game, it wasnt spectacular but i think its exactly the kind of game you would expect from him, EXCEPT he was still way below his average not only on fg percentage, but points. Remember, Hinrich on average should be scoring somewhere near 16, and with him playing sg while duhon is in, and the way he was shooting in the first quarter, you expect him to surpass that. I think it would be one thing if he never shot the ball again, but that wasnt the case.

Like i said its still a decent game, anytime hinrich is not in foul trouble and is not turnover prown (hell this is true for all players) that is a good thing. Hinrich is getting more aggresive, but hes still not where he was say his rookie or sophmore year. But i think with boylans system (for now) hinrich will be able to get more accustomed to shooting. I am hoping that when we look at his stats at the end of the season, the second half of the season stats will be above his normal careers (at this point im looking forward to something along 17 pts and 8 assists per game. Its no 'second coming of the great white guard' but its good enough to mean something to this team. I also hope hinrich from here on out will show consistency, the last two seasons (including this one) have been a burden, especially when it comes to defending him.

NO...He is not over rated, he is still under rated....i just cant prove that...only hinrich can...

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Dec 31, 2007 3:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Considering he
couldn't play any worse than he was the last few games have been a great improvement. That's all I was saying. His other areas of his game have been good. I'm not worried about his shooting, it will come back.
Win, just win.

by sue369 on Dec 31, 2007 8:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was at the game today
A few observations: I sat about 15 feet from the
Bulls bench....

-Bulls management might as well trade Tyrus because the only thing I saw him do today was sing to Cheryl Lyn's "Got To Be Real" and give the other players dap...  might as well trade for someone that might actually get minutes
-Aaron Gray got called for traveling about 3-4 times & the Knicks were stumbling around like fools for most of the game
-BG had his ususal Madison Square Gordon magic
-Kirk had a good game too - say what you will about him but he is very agressive on D
-In the last minute, Duhon was the only starter on the floor, but A-drain was out there for only about ten seconds before he took a crappy shot

Even tho I didn't get to see TT play, I did get to hear the "Fire Isiah" chants MORE than once hahahAa

by HerAirness on Dec 30, 2007 4:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't give up on him yet.
Watching on TV it seemed like the Refs were the only thing keeping the Knicks in the game well besides David Lee and Robbinson. I have seen enough of Violet Palmer why is she a ref. It's not that shes a woman it's just that she don't get it.

by JoeJoe on Dec 30, 2007 4:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tyrus
I think he must have regressed in practice or maybe just made fun of how much Boylan looks like President Logan from 24.

If you're not sure, here's a comparison:

It's a little freaky, really.

"Fans never fall asleep at our games, because they're afraid they might get hit by a pass." -George Raveling

by cubbybear on Dec 30, 2007 6:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

whoa
that is pretty close. And I have fond memories of President Logan, a pinnacle of '24' that they're apparently sliding away from nowadays.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 30, 2007 6:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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