Open Game Thread #15: Bulls vs Dallas Mavericks
I enjoyed Sam Smith's (other) work today picking out Mavs quotes and suggesting how Bulls-like they sounded. A Dallas Morning News blogger was less than enthused:
Good point(?), but this season the Mavericks did try to move Stackhouse to the starting lineup for a handful of games displacing their version of Ben Gordon, Jason Terry, to the bench. I don't know how that experiment went, but I'll guess whatever advantages they gained by having the coveted 'big guard' were probably outweighed by Stack's 10.91 PER so far this season, and now Terry's back in the starting lineup with Devin Harris.
On the subject of the height disadvantage that makes everyone so sad, the Mavericks have a tall frontcourt rotation with Dirk, Dampier, and DeSagana. In their first meeting last season, the huge Dampier completely overwhelmed Ben Wallace. Lets hope Ben doesn't go into his shell after such a fantastic outing on Saturday. (How did he do that against Okafor and Brezec?!? They're taller than him!!). I wouldn't be surprised if they started Deng on Nowitzki to keep Tyrus out of early foul trouble, but a combination of Deng, Thomas, and Noah over the course of the game works for me. Nocioni, not so much.
Hopefully two wins worked out whatever horsecrap excuse they had for a horsecrap start to the season. It's not likely they'll beat the Mavs, but if they get blown the hell out at home it'll be a bad bad sign.
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I like
by eross226 on
Dec 3, 2007 6:35 PM CST
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Not likely?
by Option27 on
Dec 3, 2007 6:40 PM CST
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Yeah, let's have some optimism!
I just can't go into a game without believing the Bulls will win, no matter how ridiculous the season so far makes that sound!
by wjb1492 on
Dec 3, 2007 6:48 PM CST
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maybe...
by leeac on
Dec 3, 2007 6:40 PM CST
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This is an important test
by chgobr on
Dec 3, 2007 6:54 PM CST
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hey, a Matt game thread
by KT on
Dec 3, 2007 6:59 PM CST
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big
by tyrus4prez on
Dec 3, 2007 7:04 PM CST
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For all who can't see the game
Then go to CCTV5 (High Quality
Good way to see NBA games like this one.
by Seth on
Dec 3, 2007 7:25 PM CST
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I tried sopcast before this is the first time it
by Ibleedbullsred on
Dec 3, 2007 8:55 PM CST
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well...
and it seems like dallas is zeroed on on the short to midrange jumpers...
by leeac on
Dec 3, 2007 7:48 PM CST
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anybody have a link to the radio feed
by bullshooter on
Dec 3, 2007 7:50 PM CST
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Try nba.com
There's a "listen live" button there that gets you to the feed.
by wjb1492 on
Dec 3, 2007 7:56 PM CST
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better
by bullshooter on
Dec 3, 2007 8:11 PM CST
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Yeah, that would be irritating
I don't know of a more in-synch broadcast though
by wjb1492 on
Dec 3, 2007 8:19 PM CST
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Is the game sold out? I thought they usually only
by Ibleedbullsred on
Dec 3, 2007 8:44 PM CST
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Man they are in chi-town, and they back out games
by Ibleedbullsred on
Dec 3, 2007 9:05 PM CST
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opps blackout, my L sticks on my Labtop.
by Ibleedbullsred on
Dec 3, 2007 9:05 PM CST
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It really does suck
by wjb1492 on
Dec 3, 2007 9:12 PM CST
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crappy start
:-)
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 8:02 PM CST
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Not looking good
by JackHaleyand the planetlovetron on
Dec 3, 2007 7:56 PM CST
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NOC!
by leeac on
Dec 3, 2007 8:04 PM CST
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But Noce is looking good with....
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 8:04 PM CST
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noch
by milesgmsu on
Dec 3, 2007 8:04 PM CST
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Thank God for Noc
by wjb1492 on
Dec 3, 2007 8:05 PM CST
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Only down 5 at the end of the 1st Q
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 8:06 PM CST
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Looks like Noc really woke everyone else up
It seems like every game this season I find myself saying "they can't keep shooting that great, can they? And Bulls can't keep shooting this poorly?"
by wjb1492 on
Dec 3, 2007 8:14 PM CST
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HA! Wallace tomahawk jammed
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 8:10 PM CST
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just had a weird deja vu
by milesgmsu on
Dec 3, 2007 8:13 PM CST
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Boy....he really IS slooooooww
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 8:17 PM CST
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Looked painful....hope he's okay
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 8:18 PM CST
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Did they say numb fingers?
(Sorry, Matt - not only fantasy, but the wrong sport even)
by wjb1492 on
Dec 3, 2007 8:25 PM CST
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dude they seriously need to lose that gong for #3
by Dr0ne420 on
Dec 3, 2007 8:19 PM CST
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Griffin SUCKS!!!
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 8:21 PM CST
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The H-Bomb strikes again
by Seth on
Dec 3, 2007 8:22 PM CST
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call him what you want
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 8:33 PM CST
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how about "Break Even"
by Dr0ne420 on
Dec 3, 2007 8:34 PM CST
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what good has he done THIS year?
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 8:36 PM CST
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He made his sweetheart
by Seth on
Dec 3, 2007 9:00 PM CST
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If you are
by sue369 on
Dec 4, 2007 7:20 AM CST
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amazing bulls are this close
by bullshooter on
Dec 3, 2007 8:24 PM CST
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our superstars
by Sambossanova on
Dec 3, 2007 8:27 PM CST
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everybody
by bullshooter on
Dec 3, 2007 8:30 PM CST
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I HATE Dickhead No-fit-ski
sheesh....
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 8:29 PM CST
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Deng....absolutely worthless tonight
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 8:31 PM CST
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File toppling goliath under 'intangibles'
by Seth on
Dec 3, 2007 8:33 PM CST
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down 12 now at half....
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 8:35 PM CST
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If BG can find a way
by bullshooter on
Dec 3, 2007 8:37 PM CST
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maybe it was just a dream
by Seth on
Dec 3, 2007 8:38 PM CST
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What's worse than Dore, Kerr and King?
ugh...
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 8:41 PM CST
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Our "core" with 11 points at half.
by philosoball on
Dec 3, 2007 8:42 PM CST
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and shooting a mere 29%....
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 8:46 PM CST
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Skiles sat Deng early
by philosoball on
Dec 3, 2007 8:47 PM CST
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his 3 fouls don't help
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 8:49 PM CST
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oh....and 0-8 shooting
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 8:51 PM CST
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Du and Noah
Could be a sign of things to come
by Option27 on
Dec 3, 2007 8:52 PM CST
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Heinbrick on the bench...
twilight zone?
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 9:01 PM CST
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I'm just praying we can keep it close
by Ibleedbullsred on
Dec 3, 2007 9:03 PM CST
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Weird, weird night
Gotta give Du props for making the most of it.
by wjb1492 on
Dec 3, 2007 9:04 PM CST
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I wouldn't call Deng's double pump 10 footer
by Seth on
Dec 3, 2007 9:08 PM CST
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Kirk, what in the world, Du get Deng a Layup cause
by Ibleedbullsred on
Dec 3, 2007 9:09 PM CST
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This is no excuse for 0-9 but looks like Lu is
by Ibleedbullsred on
Dec 3, 2007 9:13 PM CST
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it hurts to watch most of these guys
by bullshooter on
Dec 3, 2007 9:12 PM CST
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dropped another percent
sigh...
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 9:11 PM CST
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Shooting under 30%
NOW THAT'S WEIRD
by Option27 on
Dec 3, 2007 9:12 PM CST
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we seem to be getting ALL the defensive rebounds
by Seth on
Dec 3, 2007 9:13 PM CST
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the bulls best play
by bullshooter on
Dec 3, 2007 9:12 PM CST
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I never seen Kirk look this bad
Only shot he made, he was fouled. His shot had to get altered to go in
by Option27 on
Dec 3, 2007 9:17 PM CST
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kirk throws up a 12 ft. brick to end the 3rd Q
classic...
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 9:17 PM CST
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Hinbrick!
by Azabullsfan on
Dec 3, 2007 9:18 PM CST
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at this point
by Freethefro on
Dec 3, 2007 9:21 PM CST
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points for creativity
The quest continues.
by Freethefro on
Dec 3, 2007 9:24 PM CST
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let's make that, STARTING point guard
by Freethefro on
Dec 3, 2007 9:25 PM CST
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I thought it might be the paring
by bullshooter on
Dec 3, 2007 9:20 PM CST
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Is Nocioni
by Azabullsfan on
Dec 3, 2007 9:20 PM CST
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Tyrus
by goldengod on
Dec 3, 2007 9:21 PM CST
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gordon + deng
by alec on
Dec 3, 2007 9:22 PM CST
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sorry...4 for 26
by alec on
Dec 3, 2007 9:22 PM CST
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Scouting the Mavs
I also remember reading about how Brandon Bass and Tyrus used to work out together and Tyrus never once beat Bass. That's not very encouraging since Bass has taken 3 years to become a mediocrity.
Anyway, the lessons I came away with the game for the Bulls were that Nowitski really struggles with tall, strong and quick guys and Jeff Foster, who is tall, strong and quick is very overlooked as a player. Unfortunately, we don't really a comparable player. Their guards aren't all that great and if you can keep Howard and Terry under control you've got a pretty good shot at them even if Dirk gets his.
Looking at how things have unfolded though, not much of that matters. Howard has had his way on both ends of the court and although we haven't played awful defense or anything we've once again shot the ball like crap.
by Sports2 on
Dec 3, 2007 9:22 PM CST
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If tyrus had a jumpshot it woud be different
by Ibleedbullsred on
Dec 3, 2007 9:31 PM CST
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LU hit a bucket, what they say Bass had a head
Side note, I thought we took pride in defense.
by Ibleedbullsred on
Dec 3, 2007 9:24 PM CST
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seems like the
by tomcat on
Dec 3, 2007 9:31 PM CST
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Why
by goldengod on
Dec 3, 2007 9:34 PM CST
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there's a lot of uselessness
by bullshooter on
Dec 3, 2007 9:36 PM CST
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He is playing that Non-statistical Defence, what
by Ibleedbullsred on
Dec 3, 2007 9:39 PM CST
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You can't win
by Azabullsfan on
Dec 3, 2007 9:35 PM CST
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lol, the chinese channel is funny
by Ibleedbullsred on
Dec 3, 2007 9:38 PM CST
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Kirk and Du with a breakaway 2 on 1
Talk about ugly...
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 9:38 PM CST
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the slimmest of margins!
by hscs on
Dec 3, 2007 9:39 PM CST
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why has Wallace played the whole game?
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Dec 3, 2007 9:39 PM CST
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I'm so sick of
by GoldenThreePeat on
Dec 3, 2007 9:41 PM CST
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Late in the 4th
Like I said, he gets away with murder...
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 9:41 PM CST
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who's novitski?
by hscs on
Dec 3, 2007 9:42 PM CST
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That's an acronym for dickhead
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 9:54 PM CST
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I'm not going to request
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Dec 3, 2007 10:43 PM CST
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FYI - it was intentional
I don't see you harassing anyone else misspelling here tonight...
You seem to be able to dish out the crap but can't take it in return.
And who (besides you) really cares if I misspell the opposition names, intentional or not?
Geesh.
If you're gonna harrass me - at least have the balls to do it like a man without hiding behind the blogmaster and your schoolboy threats.
by Bluelou on
Dec 4, 2007 1:07 AM CST
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you keep putting an e in hinrich too
by hscs on
Dec 4, 2007 11:25 AM CST
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You know what's funny about the chinese guys
by bullshooter on
Dec 3, 2007 9:43 PM CST
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I noticed this a whie back but it Looks like Stacy
by Ibleedbullsred on
Dec 3, 2007 9:44 PM CST
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stacey king
by tomcat on
Dec 3, 2007 9:45 PM CST
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Only player who plays
by Azabullsfan on
Dec 3, 2007 9:46 PM CST
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Noc is our go-to guy.
OK, Deng's off the hook, he just did it too.
Too little too late for all of them :(
by Sports2 on
Dec 3, 2007 9:49 PM CST
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Nocioni
by Chilai on
Dec 3, 2007 9:53 PM CST
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Cause
by Azabullsfan on
Dec 3, 2007 10:03 PM CST
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I like how that ended up
by Sports2 on
Dec 3, 2007 9:54 PM CST
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yeah, he did seem to just step aside of Ben
wow...
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 9:57 PM CST
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When was the last time Deng fouled out?
by wjb1492 on
Dec 3, 2007 9:54 PM CST
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Well at least it was a competitive ending.
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Dec 3, 2007 9:56 PM CST
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Noce!
by Azabullsfan on
Dec 3, 2007 9:57 PM CST
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If nothing else
Too bad the rest of our players thought the last 2 games meant they didn't have to shoot with their eyes open any more.
by Sports2 on
Dec 3, 2007 10:01 PM CST
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Dallas stinks
by blackmage71 on
Dec 3, 2007 9:59 PM CST
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Hinbricks'
by Azabullsfan on
Dec 3, 2007 10:00 PM CST
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They only lost by 5 but...
by GoldenThreePeat on
Dec 3, 2007 10:03 PM CST
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Tyrus didn't ply in the 2nd qtr or the 2nd half.
by Bluelou on
Dec 3, 2007 10:10 PM CST
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Hmmmm
by wjb1492 on
Dec 3, 2007 10:12 PM CST
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Ben Gordon was useless tonight.
Zero free throw attempts.
A couple of airballs.
by 1958ChiTown on
Dec 3, 2007 10:13 PM CST
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And he thinks
Gasol for Christ sake!
by Azabullsfan on
Dec 3, 2007 10:16 PM CST
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Unfortunately Kirk and Lu
Moral victories suck, but I suppose I do feel better about making the game competitive at the end than I would have watching the guys fold and get blown out. But given how crappy they played the first half (excepting Noc and Du), it really is incredible it ended up being a game at all.
Wallace played all 48 minutes? Hope he's got something left for later this week.
by wjb1492 on
Dec 3, 2007 10:20 PM CST
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What happened to Joe Smith?
by Jaina on
Dec 3, 2007 10:21 PM CST
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I haven't heard anything
by wjb1492 on
Dec 3, 2007 10:28 PM CST
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Playing Wallace for 48 minutes
by Jaina on
Dec 3, 2007 10:29 PM CST
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maybe it is
by bullshooter on
Dec 3, 2007 10:46 PM CST
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can any of you guys help me.
by eross226 on
Dec 3, 2007 10:43 PM CST
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Talk about a reality check
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Dec 3, 2007 11:11 PM CST
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