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Open Game Thread #15: Bulls vs Dallas Mavericks

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I enjoyed Sam Smith's (other) work today picking out Mavs quotes and suggesting how Bulls-like they sounded. A Dallas Morning News blogger was less than enthused:

Smith shreds his credibility when he writes that Jerry Stackhouse "has been yanked around from starter to the bench." I assume he's referring to the same Stack who finished third in the Sixth Man Award voting the last two seasons and fourth the previous year.

Good point(?), but this season the Mavericks did try to move Stackhouse to the starting lineup for a handful of games displacing their version of Ben Gordon, Jason Terry, to the bench. I don't know how that experiment went, but I'll guess whatever advantages they gained by having the coveted 'big guard' were probably outweighed by Stack's 10.91 PER so far this season, and now Terry's back in the starting lineup with Devin Harris.

On the subject of the height disadvantage that makes everyone so sad, the Mavericks have a tall frontcourt rotation with Dirk, Dampier, and DeSagana. In their first meeting last season, the huge Dampier completely overwhelmed Ben Wallace. Lets hope Ben doesn't go into his shell after such a fantastic outing on Saturday. (How did he do that against Okafor and Brezec?!? They're taller than him!!). I wouldn't be surprised if they started Deng on Nowitzki to keep Tyrus out of early foul trouble, but a combination of Deng, Thomas, and Noah over the course of the game works for me. Nocioni, not so much.

Hopefully two wins worked out whatever horsecrap excuse they had for a horsecrap start to the season. It's not likely they'll beat the Mavs, but if they get blown the hell out at home it'll be a bad bad sign.

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I like
the idea of Noah on Dirk. He will get in his face be active and contest the shot.

by eross226 on Dec 3, 2007 6:35 PM CST   0 recs

Not likely?
If the Bulls continue to play like they have recently and the Mavs continue their recent woes, I see it as 50/50

by Option27 on Dec 3, 2007 6:40 PM CST   0 recs

Yeah, let's have some optimism!
Mavs are 2-4 over their last 6, beating only Minnesota and Portland at home, while losing to Indiana, Milwaukee, Washington and New Orleans.  Sounds roughly the same as the Bulls record over past 6.  Sam did do pretty well with that comparison, no?

I just can't go into a game without believing the Bulls will win, no matter how ridiculous the season so far makes that sound!

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Dec 3, 2007 6:48 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

maybe...
if we're lucky, noah can flail at the ball wildly, poke dirk in the eye, and scratch his cornea...  oops, i forgot, i think he only does that to his teammates...

by leeac on Dec 3, 2007 6:40 PM CST   0 recs

This is an important test
I've been eying this game since we beat Atlanta.  I expect Dallas to be motivated after losing to New Orleans.  We have lost games we should have won.  This is a game we are expected to lose.  I'd love us to win it.  

by chgobr on Dec 3, 2007 6:54 PM CST   0 recs

hey, a Matt game thread
Nothing else to say.  Can't see the game so I'm going to go watch March of the Penguins and check the score periodically.

by KT on Dec 3, 2007 6:59 PM CST   0 recs

big
game tonight.  I want to see Ty and Noah on the court together...  Kirk making some shots would be nice as well

by tyrus4prez on Dec 3, 2007 7:04 PM CST   0 recs

For all who can't see the game
Download a program called SOPCAST
Then go to CCTV5 (High Quality

Good way to see NBA games like this one.

by Seth on Dec 3, 2007 7:25 PM CST   0 recs

I tried sopcast before this is the first time it
worked for the bulls now if they decide to charge me for league pass I won't regret canceling it.

by Ibleedbullsred on Dec 3, 2007 8:55 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

well...
it took hinrich about 45 seconds to make a bad pass to a covered bull... to his credit, he hustled back on d and stole the ball back, but stepped out of bounds...

and it seems like dallas is zeroed on on the short to midrange jumpers...

by leeac on Dec 3, 2007 7:48 PM CST   0 recs

anybody have a link to the radio feed
the chinese voice over is disconcerting.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 3, 2007 7:50 PM CST   0 recs

go to espn.com
scores

click listen

by milesgmsu on Dec 3, 2007 7:53 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Try nba.com
http://www.nba.com/games/20071203/DALCHI/boxscore.html

There's a "listen live" button there that gets you to the feed.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Dec 3, 2007 7:56 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

better
but there is a thirty second delay between the and the sopcast broadcast.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 3, 2007 8:11 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, that would be irritating
But I don't have the bandwidth for anything better than audio - and since I'm in the "Dallas viewing area" or whatever they call it, I'm blacked out on League Pass tonight.  Which is weird since it's suppose to be NBATV.

I don't know of a more in-synch broadcast though

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Dec 3, 2007 8:19 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Man they are in chi-town, and they back out games
man dallas sux. Cuban needs to work out some deals or something.

by Ibleedbullsred on Dec 3, 2007 9:05 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

It really does suck
But I don't know if this is on Cuban or just part of the League Pass deal.  I never get Mavs games on League Pass - I just generally don't care.
"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Dec 3, 2007 9:12 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

crappy start

by milesgmsu on Dec 3, 2007 7:53 PM CST   0 recs

crappy start
You sir, are a master of understatement...

:-)

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 8:02 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Not looking good
same problems as always when they play a good team
The bulls need to stop playing like Terry Schaivo.

by JackHaleyand the planetlovetron on Dec 3, 2007 7:56 PM CST   0 recs

NOC!
2 3pters in 30 seconds.  and another rebound ripped down.  gotta love this guy.

by leeac on Dec 3, 2007 8:04 PM CST   0 recs

But Noce is looking good with....
did I hear it right....12 pts.?
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 8:04 PM CST   0 recs

noch
earned like $350,000 of his contract in the last 5 mins

by milesgmsu on Dec 3, 2007 8:04 PM CST   0 recs

Thank God for Noc
Glad someone is hitting!
"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Dec 3, 2007 8:05 PM CST   0 recs

Only down 5 at the end of the 1st Q
not as bad as it looked at the start..
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 8:06 PM CST   0 recs

Looks like Noc really woke everyone else up
And it helps that the Mavs aren't shooting lights out anymore.

It seems like every game this season I find myself saying "they can't keep shooting that great, can they?  And Bulls can't keep shooting this poorly?"

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Dec 3, 2007 8:14 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

HA! Wallace tomahawk jammed
 and missed!!!    LOL
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 8:10 PM CST   0 recs

just had a weird deja vu
didnt this happen 2 years ago against the wiz with someone keeping us in the game then getting injured even though they thought they were ok?

by milesgmsu on Dec 3, 2007 8:13 PM CST   0 recs

Boy....he really IS slooooooww
getting down court...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 8:17 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Looked painful....hope he's okay
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 8:18 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Did they say numb fingers?
Sounds like Brett Favre's injury last Thursday - that killed my fantasy week.  :(

(Sorry, Matt - not only fantasy, but the wrong sport even)

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Dec 3, 2007 8:25 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Adrian Griffin
game over

by Seth on Dec 3, 2007 8:17 PM CST   0 recs

dude they seriously need to lose that gong for #3
sorry ass sefalosha good for nothing but injuring a valuable bull.

by Dr0ne420 on Dec 3, 2007 8:19 PM CST   0 recs

Or...
a valuabull!

by Kemp on Dec 3, 2007 8:27 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Griffin SUCKS!!!
sit his ass down!
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 8:21 PM CST   0 recs

The H-Bomb strikes again
FYI--we're going to start calling hienrich the h-bomb.

by Seth on Dec 3, 2007 8:22 PM CST   0 recs

call him what you want
I like heinbrick better...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 8:33 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

how about "Break Even"
for all the good he does, he just breaks even with all the bad he does

by Dr0ne420 on Dec 3, 2007 8:34 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

what good has he done THIS year?
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 8:36 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

He made his sweetheart
the happiest woman in kansas

by Seth on Dec 3, 2007 9:00 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

If you are
talking about his wife she's not from Kansas.
Please get this season turned around and play some great basketball.

by sue369 on Dec 4, 2007 7:20 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

amazing bulls are this close
getting outshot, outrebounded, and outworked
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 3, 2007 8:24 PM CST   0 recs

our superstars
can;t even shoot.  I think nocioni might get jealous if the season keeps going like this and deng and gordon make more money than he does.

by Sambossanova on Dec 3, 2007 8:27 PM CST   0 recs

everybody
who bitched and moaned about Noc's contract should apologize.  At least based on the start of this season so far.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 3, 2007 8:30 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I HATE Dickhead No-fit-ski
all he had to do was lean into Noah for a foul - and then at the other end he gets away with murder and abuses Bulls at will with no calls...

sheesh....

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 8:29 PM CST   0 recs

NOC
!!!

by Seth on Dec 3, 2007 8:33 PM CST   0 recs

why
is hinrich still playing.

by Sambossanova on Dec 3, 2007 8:35 PM CST   0 recs

down 12 now at half....
eh...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 8:35 PM CST   0 recs

If BG can find a way
to make 45% of his shots, the bulls are winning.  
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 3, 2007 8:37 PM CST   0 recs

exactly
thats what sucks about this team. BG is the key. when BG can score Bulls will win. when BG scores Deng scores...  But BG is so damn inconsistent.

by Dr0ne420 on Dec 3, 2007 8:45 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

maybe it was just a dream
but I have a vague memory of hearing the word defense tossed around some last year. not sure where the idea came from.

by Seth on Dec 3, 2007 8:38 PM CST   0 recs

What's worse than Dore, Kerr and King?
combining them with the NBA channel's idiots during halftime...

ugh...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 8:41 PM CST   0 recs

and shooting a mere 29%....
looks like the "real" Bulls are back tonight...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 8:46 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Skiles sat Deng early
maybe he isn't 100%.

by philosoball on Dec 3, 2007 8:47 PM CST   0 recs

his 3 fouls don't help
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 8:49 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

oh....and 0-8 shooting
can't be good either
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 8:51 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Du and Noah
in the starting line up? This is kinda nuts....

Could be a sign of things to come

by Option27 on Dec 3, 2007 8:52 PM CST   0 recs

i'm impressed with noah
he's good

by tomcat on Dec 3, 2007 8:54 PM CST   0 recs

eh....
he plays hard though...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 8:58 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Heinbrick on the bench...
Lu is 0 for 9 now....and Du is running the floor...

twilight zone?

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 9:01 PM CST   0 recs

Noah
is a lot like Tyson but better

by Option27 on Dec 3, 2007 9:03 PM CST   0 recs

I'm just praying we can keep it close
sidenote, that dude didn't get that big with no pushup pro.

by Ibleedbullsred on Dec 3, 2007 9:03 PM CST   0 recs

Weird, weird night
when Du is shooting 50%, while BG is at 20%, Kirk at 16.7%, and Lu at 0%.

Gotta give Du props for making the most of it.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Dec 3, 2007 9:04 PM CST   0 recs

I wouldn't call Deng's double pump 10 footer
...one of his more impressive moves.

by Seth on Dec 3, 2007 9:08 PM CST   0 recs

hinrich
dribble, dribble, stuffed

by tomcat on Dec 3, 2007 9:09 PM CST   0 recs

This is no excuse for 0-9 but looks like Lu is
working hard on D-fence and resting a little on offence. Dallas makes you work on D.  Looks Like Lu was standing around on offence and trying to get offensive boards

by Ibleedbullsred on Dec 3, 2007 9:13 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

sometimes
it hurts to watch hinrich

by tomcat on Dec 3, 2007 9:09 PM CST   0 recs

dropped another percent
down to 28% shooting now for the Bulls tonight...
sigh...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 9:11 PM CST   0 recs

Nice one Duhon
very nice touch

by Seth on Dec 3, 2007 9:12 PM CST   0 recs

the bulls best play
is the pass off of the front of the rim.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 3, 2007 9:12 PM CST   0 recs

I never seen Kirk look this bad
and he's been pretty bad this year

Only shot he made, he was fouled. His shot had to get altered to go in

by Option27 on Dec 3, 2007 9:17 PM CST   0 recs

kirk throws up a 12 ft. brick to end the 3rd Q
and the boos reign down...

classic...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 3, 2007 9:17 PM CST   0 recs

Hinbrick!
Bench him!Can't do anything!

by Azabullsfan on Dec 3, 2007 9:18 PM CST   0 recs

at this point
I'm wondering if he's been (this year) the worst lead guard in the NBA.  Out of curiosity, can anybody name a point who's been worse this year?

by Freethefro on Dec 3, 2007 9:21 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

points for creativity
but McInnis, blow though he may, has only 1 start.

The quest continues.

by Freethefro on Dec 3, 2007 9:24 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I thought it might be the paring
of BG and Kirk, but they are both 0-3 for the third.  
Nocioni-Khryapa in '