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Pax on the Score

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I did a quick paraphrased transcription. Hopefully it doesn't get to omessy in terms of changing the POV (as in, I hope 'I' means Paxson in all cases). The questions are in italics.

Has the start of the season been a complete shock?

Had high expectations coming off of last year. Never any guarantees, but felt they were on the right track...and right out of the gates didn't play well. The firing was never an easy thing to do and the timing was horrible, but there's never a good time. It's to try and salvage the year. Feel that players can get some life and turn this thing around. Puts the onus on the players, if they thought coaching was holding them back it is no longer an excuse now.

Let Scott go because team was playing poorly, which sends a signal that he was doing everything wrong, however that isn't the case. It's always a combination of things. Felt that the players weren't listening, but coaches have a responsibility to get try and get the players to respond. It's a two way street, and additionally communication needed between himself as GM and the coach.

I felt the team has played as poorly lately as they have the past three or four years. Not playing together, unorganized, which falls on the players a lot but also includes the direction from the sideline.

Now what? Inside or outside the organization for a coaching change?

Need to do things differently on both ends. We are a perimeter team but there are a lot of those in the league since post players are scarce. I think we can post Luol Deng more, for example. On defense, use length and athleticism, and not be so standard when defending the screen/roll. Hard to change everything midseason and its hard to change core beliefs, but want to get more minutes for the young guys and become a playoff team again.

"I want to see whoever's in charge for us to come up with rotations on the floor that are good for us."

Interviewing Boylan Wednesday, whether it's him, Pete Myers or outside the organization, the decision hasn't been made regarding the long-term. The move now had to be made. When Bill Cartwright was released there were ideas going forward in place to hire Skiles. In this case, still have things long-term to look at, but short-term is important, i.e. getting the group back together and ready to play.

What about the young players, specifically Tyrus and Thabo? How is their confidence?

We'll find out. Some of the guys do lack confidence, and that's not all on Skiles. Skiles did a great job for a while, got respectability and accountability back, and on personnel decisions worked together and made moves based on his style of coaching and who he could have success with, so it's not all with him. Sometimes confidence is on the players not fighting through it. Right now some of the young guys don't have the confidence needing to play, and I had counted on them being able to contribute this season. Thabo isn't the offensive player I thought he'd be but he is still a long defender. Won't play 30 mintues a game but as of now just need to get his confidence back. Tyrus has had erratic minutes, but when given plenty of minutes he's responded. Don't think Tyrus' confidence is a problem as he's a naturally confident person.

When was the move in mind, and why no replacement plan in place beforehand?

Doesn't always work that way. The two uninspired games over the weekend did not sit well. When seeing the same things done over and over, clearly there were some things about the coaching that I wasn't pleased with, and it was time. Team was dead and lifeless. In the past slow starts, by this time there was better play, this year they haven't found it. When Skiles was hired it was a long turnaround, getting accountability first and making personnel changes to tie into that. So there's likely no quick fix.

Ben Wallace question: can he get back and overcome injuries (or whatever) to get what the team needs from him?

That's on him now. I have talked to him several times one-on-one.  His injuries have been a part of it, and in training camp he had passion and energy that he doesn't see now. Happens with all players sometimes in regards to coaching. Don't have to like the coach, but the whole roster needs to respond. Only Nocioni has been playing at level he was last year. Not ideal to go into San Antonio tonight, but it'll be a challenge and up to them. If they felt that this was holding them back, they no longer have that excuse.

Fallen in love with players question? Building up assets with possible trades in the future. Trade deadline coming, etc.

Will have eyes open, but lack of previous deals not about liking own players. Anybody who thinks the Lakers were wanting to trade Kobe was mistaken. Couldn't throw everything at the Lakers because of Kobe's no-trade clause. We were in on the Garnett stuff. The criticism is fair but there are things in the way of making trades.  Kirk's base-year status is an example. Starts with me, we felt really good coming into the season and the group hasn't responded. It was the right thing to do to make a move and put pressure on the players on the floor, and myself off the floor. Have to play together and come together as a team, from Wallace on down. If they don't there will be changes made.

I thought the parts in the middle about specific problems with the coaching style (too "standard") were very interesting. Along with saying he wants Tyrus out there more, of course.

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The craziest part of the interview was
Pax saying that their goal is "To still make the playoffs"

Umm, wasn't that a foregone conclusion before the season started?! Now that's a goal?!

Ahh, remember that goal of competing for the Eastern title?

by Option27 on Dec 26, 2007 12:27 PM CST reply actions  

One who cannot revise goals...
...is one who... something or other. Saying that just means they're not giving up on the season so everyone should still buy 11-game packages and stuff.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Dec 26, 2007 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Not playing TT
or Noah probably was a big part of the firing. One thing that bothered me greatly was his calling out his players, (TT and Noah) publicly and then being told by Pax to apologize. Did he not realize how he sounded when he did that? He was one of those that when paying a compliment to one of his players always followed it by a "but".

I'm sure for some of the players this is like a weight being lifted off their shoulders. Now they need to go out and play like it.

Please get this season turned around and play some great basketball.

by sue369 on Dec 26, 2007 12:44 PM CST reply actions  

Thanks for the summary and link.
I am looking forward to see how they play tonight.

by chgobr on Dec 26, 2007 12:51 PM CST reply actions  

I love the way Paxson says the past two games
Boston, Houston did not sit well with him.  He does understand that we are playing lifeless.  I believe this means more and consistent minutes for TT.  I think (hope) Big Ben is on the bubble.  

by chgobr on Dec 26, 2007 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe on the bubble to be bought out.
Who would want to acquire Grandfather Clock Wallace at his lowest value since his rookie season?
"Duhon, don't make that garbage-time jumper... Save it for the next game!"

by bullhockey on Dec 26, 2007 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

It's good to have my faith in Paxson reconfirmed
I agree his response to "Now What?" was the most interesting part.  He's still not buying into the "we just need a post player" crap.

And his responses were good. Post Deng more.  Actually use the length and athleticism on defense, which basically implies to playing Thomas, Noah, and Thabo.  Not being so standard with the pick and roll could be extended to not being so standard on offense as well.  And the last response: play the young guys more and become a playoff team again.  Playing the young guys leads to becoming a playoff team again.

by Scotter on Dec 26, 2007 12:54 PM CST reply actions  

And no one where is there even
a hint of any need to play Aaron Gray.  Which is another positive.  I'd be perfectly content to have Gray play, but not athe expense of Noah or Thomas.

by Scotter on Dec 26, 2007 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

heh, no kidding
Mike Wilbon was on an ESPNRadio show this week saying that when he talked to the Bulls players before the Wiz game, they all wanted Noah and Gray to play more, and that could be a reason of discontent with Skiles. yeesh.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

One way to interpret that
is that up until that point Gray had probably averaged about 30 seconds per game...so playing him more could simply mean playing him at all.  Ten minutes per game of Gray at center, subbing for Wallace, while Noah plays 4, TT 3 and Deng 2 is not an altogether bad thing.

by alec on Dec 26, 2007 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Pax on Thabo
He seems to concede that he was wrong about Thabo.

by NBA Observer on Dec 26, 2007 1:02 PM CST reply actions  

Who among the Thabo or later picks
has been a player at the position the Bulls were attempting to fill?  Maybe Ronnie Brewer?  I know the Bulls pulled a switch with Philly getting Carney, but Carney's so far just looking pretty much like Thabo.

I don't know if Thabo was a mistake, or simply that he's not panning out.

by alec on Dec 26, 2007 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

He only conceded
that Thabo isn't the offensive player he thought he would be by now.  That's all he conceded.

by Scotter on Dec 26, 2007 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure, read into it.
No matter what he is saying, there is no doubt there is disapointment with both Thomas and Thabo.

We should probably trade away Thabo. Then, somehow, he'd become an All-Star.

by chicago-homesick-blues on Dec 26, 2007 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Only so much he can say
I took the comments a little further.  This is true.  But I was taking into account how much Paxson can publicly say about an active player HE DRAFTED that was in the Skiles doghouse because he was ineffective on offense AND DEFENSE.

I think Pax looks at the 2007 picks and says to himself that if they don't get time on the floor how is Paxson going to be judged about the selections.

Basically, Paxson isn't going to call out individual players to the press.  He may do it to the team, but what he said about Thabo publicly is telling.

by NBA Observer on Dec 26, 2007 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I see your point.
Simply the fact that he mentioned him says something.

by alec on Dec 26, 2007 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

The "excuse" theory of firing Skiles
This is very telling.

1st paragraph:

"if they thought coaching was holding them back it is no longer an excuse now."

2nd to last paragraph:

"Don't have to like the coach, but the whole roster needs to respond. ... If they felt that this was holding them back, they no longer have that excuse."

Along with these two quotes, we have numerous quotes where Pax says the onus is now on the players, the players have to respond, etc.

The team and coach that he handpicked were totally dysfunctional together, and now the team without the coach may continue to be dysfunctional. That's where his own accountability comes in, and kudos to him, he has not sidestepped it.

Wow, that was quick; the dream job has turned into the boiler room. Pax (and Riley) have become more Isiah Thomas than RC Buford.

"Duhon, don't make that garbage-time jumper... Save it for the next game!"

by bullhockey on Dec 26, 2007 3:36 PM CST reply actions  

I'd like to see
A lineup at some point consisting of Gray, Wallace, TT, Deng, Kirk.  At least then we can put some size out there.

by DannyRange on Dec 26, 2007 3:46 PM CST reply actions  

Or
If you want to play a more up tempo pace, sub Noah for Gray

by DannyRange on Dec 26, 2007 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Up tempo
I initially couldn't wait to see Noce, Tyrus, & Noah on the court at the same time with Kirk & Deng because of the fastbreak opporunities and the "hussle" from the frontcourt, but it hasn't panned out so far this year.  

by Jesse07 on Dec 26, 2007 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Thats a good lineup too
I think if Pete remains the head coach all season, we will see these type of dynamic lineups.

by DannyRange on Dec 26, 2007 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind seeing it either...
in a pinch, for a match-up, or if someone got in foul trouble. The problem has been that if you saw that line-up there was no telling if Skiles was planning to make it permanent.  The new coach, especially if he's someone who's already on the staff, should settle on a rotation as quickly as possible.

by alec on Dec 26, 2007 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

A similar interview Wednesday
on AM1000

MP3 link

Interesting stuff near the end about how much Pax will play puppetmaster with the interim and/or long-term coach going forward.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 27, 2007 11:25 AM CST reply actions  

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