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Open Game Thread #4: Bulls vs. Los Angeles Clippers

[Thanks to JoeMoses for tonight's game preview. Noah's been (reportedly, from WSCR) activated for tonight, and may be taking some of Wallace's minutes. -Matt]

Win number 1? Not so fast, unless Skiles has found the cure already to our lackluster start. These are the generic Clippers (no Brand). Check out the enemy in a Blog-A-Bull look alike, at ClipsNation.

Imho, I think this game (7:30pm CST, ComcastSportsNet, AM1000) is going to be further trouble for the Bulls.  Who has been the biggest dissapointment in the three games: Deng? No. Kirk? No. I say with that without a doubt it is Big Ben. Then along comes the possible breakout player of the year in this young season. Chris Kaman has started hot. He is averaging 18 ppg and 16.5 rpg along with 2 assists, 2 blocks and 1 steal per game. I only hope that the fact that he did this against very bad defensive teams (Seattle and Golden State) means he will not continue at this torrid pace. I also hope that the reports that he is questionable for the game prove to have merit.

I worry about the Kaman-Wallace matchup because Wallace often has trouble with offensive minded centers who can move and have legit 7 foot size. This would be a much better matchup for the Noah-Gray combo as I don't think Kaman would hurt them as much.

To add doubt to a Bull victory, Quinton Ross shut down Ben Gordon last year (BG was a combined 7 for 25 in two games against the Clippers).

Another couple notes: I fear that the foul line issues will continue as Maggette and Cassell get the line often against anyone, including the Bulls. Further, a Cassell and Mobley backcourt is another big backcourt that often has given us problems. Mobley has started the season shooting 53% from the field, averaging 19 ppg and 5.5 rpg. Ruben Patterson seems to always play over his head against the Bulls and is fitting in nicely with the Clips at 12 ppg, 3 spg (lookout BG and Noch before you throw the ball), and 1.5 bpg while shooting 61% from the field.  Finally, Tim Thomas, who usually has a rare bout of motivation when going against the Bulls is averaging 20 ppg on 53% from the 3 point line.

After the game, lets just hope our Bulls are singing "I was lost, but now I'm found".

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Biggest game of the season rigch hera.....
well so far. I know it's young in the season but I wana see a statement game. Make the Lakers lust after your basketballs. Show the world that you can ball and rep the East like we knew ya could! That being said I won't be watching I have plans. Good luck Bulls. Time to earn your fat pay checks.
Did the Bulls trade for Kobe today? Oh, so I still have to watch these midgets?

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Nov 6, 2007 5:08 PM CST   0 recs

whats noahs
status for this game?

by Jbasic89 on Nov 6, 2007 5:47 PM CST   0 recs

Wounded and dumb.
playing
Did the Bulls trade for Kobe today? Oh, so I still have to watch these midgets?

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Nov 6, 2007 5:50 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

You are dumb
You just showed you are a certified idiot

by SlamDunk on Nov 6, 2007 10:16 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Remember when Wallace was the most feared
defensive player in the NBA? http://youtube.com/watch?v=zomgYSje0mk
Did the Bulls trade for Kobe today? Oh, so I still have to watch these midgets?

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Nov 6, 2007 5:49 PM CST   0 recs

Go Bulls!!!
Racecar spelled backwards is racecar.

by sue369 on Nov 6, 2007 5:53 PM CST   0 recs

I'm not an expert on the religious tunage
but I have a feeling those lyrics are incorrect.

Maggette has something like a .700 TS% against the Bulls, FYI.

Officially a hater on Ballhype!

by hscs on Nov 6, 2007 5:55 PM CST   0 recs

Actually, "tunnage"
is a non-stadard form of "tonnage," which is a nautical term...and the lyrics you rightly questioned are from a poem penned by a sea captain, upon the occassion of his conversion experience, when he gave up transporting slaves to the new world.

by alec on Nov 6, 2007 6:55 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Nice preview JoeMoses
After reading the preview I am more nervous about tonight's game than I was.  I did not realize Quentin Ross did such a good job on Gordon.  I think the Chandler - Wallace essential swap may be Paxson's first real bad move.  Let's hope we are all in a better mood after tonight's game.

by chgobr on Nov 6, 2007 6:00 PM CST   0 recs

Im just really scared of Tim Thomas
He's STILL bitter about the whole Bulls situation with him

by Option27 on Nov 6, 2007 6:40 PM CST   0 recs

what's he got to be really bitter about
he got to play with the Suns and fool the Clippers into paying him too much money.

There are Knicks and Bucks fans around who are bitter about him.

by KT on Nov 6, 2007 6:45 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I just wish someone would give me a paid
vacation so I could be bitter like him.
"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 6, 2007 6:48 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I stocked up on ice cream today
Just in case the game goes badly - but for right now I'm sure I won't need it.  This is going to be like Game 4 of the Detroit series when the guys magically break out of their shooting slumps and look invincible, after the 3 games of looking outmanned and without confidence.
"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 6, 2007 6:47 PM CST   0 recs

Hope so.
Racecar spelled backwards is racecar.

by sue369 on Nov 6, 2007 7:07 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

is there a live feed anywhere?
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 7:31 PM CST   0 recs

also go to
stoogetv.com.  Click the video tab.  And then select WMOE2.  You need to be using Internet explorer and have sopcast downloaded.  This one is working for sure.

by Scotter on Nov 6, 2007 7:36 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

how do i download sopcast
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by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 7:45 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

did tommy edwards
just announce corry maggette as if he was on the home team

by milesgmsu on Nov 6, 2007 7:37 PM CST   0 recs

The back and forth thing in the huddle looked
better tonight - didn't someone suggest last season that you could tell how the game would go by whether the guys looked in sync in the huddle?
"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 6, 2007 7:41 PM CST   0 recs

getting good looks
and shots in rythm.  Good start.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 6, 2007 7:48 PM CST   0 recs

Gordon can't buy a call...
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 6, 2007 7:50 PM CST   0 recs

No kidding!
That wasn't just slight body contact.  That bounced him to the floor and knocked the wind out of him.  They better not start calling slight body contact against us if they don't count that.

by cranscape on Nov 6, 2007 7:53 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

he seems to lead with his off hand
which might be why he doesn't get many calls.  
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 6, 2007 7:54 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

off topic, butt....
did anybody else see Garrett Wolfe in wal-mart today? he was in the dekalb wal-mart signing autographs. i got a football, photo, and my copy of Madden 08 signed.
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 7:52 PM CST   0 recs

sorry about the extra 't' in the title....
i feel dumb
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 7:53 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Funny how much better the Bulls look
when they go to the basket.  Except for BG unfortunately.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 6, 2007 7:53 PM CST   0 recs

this is one of my first games with stacey
and i wanna claw my eyes out

by milesgmsu on Nov 6, 2007 7:57 PM CST   0 recs

But isn't it nice to finally know
what everyone else here is complaining about?
"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 6, 2007 8:01 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

noahs coming in

by milesgmsu on Nov 6, 2007 7:57 PM CST   0 recs

Sanjaya is checking in for the Bulls
lol good to see Joakim finally here
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 7:58 PM CST   0 recs

deng
"dont trade me...pwease"

by milesgmsu on Nov 6, 2007 8:00 PM CST   0 recs

nice drive by BG
maybe he should go left more.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 6, 2007 8:00 PM CST   0 recs

lol at king...
Wallace
Noah
Thomas
Deng
Smith

...i wonder why the bulls are good at rebounding :/

SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:00 PM CST   0 recs

Keeping my fingers crossed
But so far, no foul trouble!

by bleargh on Nov 6, 2007 8:03 PM CST   0 recs

nobody jumped for that kamen dunk
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by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:03 PM CST   0 recs

A down-side to no foul trouble
This hasn't exactly been their best defensive quarter.

by bleargh on Nov 6, 2007 8:06 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

yeah
hopefully they can put the two together soon
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:07 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

i'd put Tyrus on Kamen rather than Noah
noah is taller but tyrus can jump higher
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:06 PM CST   0 recs

bulls playing well
just some unlucky bounces, and theres no way the clips can continue to shoot that well

by milesgmsu on Nov 6, 2007 8:09 PM CST   0 recs

Hinrich seems to be able
to penetrate consistently.  That might be the first pump fake of the year.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 6, 2007 8:09 PM CST   0 recs

not quite as demorilizing
as the previous first quarters
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by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:09 PM CST   0 recs

and neither are you.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 6, 2007 8:10 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Holy hell the Bulls are bad!
Wha-ah-ah-ah-OWWW, as Stacey King would say.
Wha-ah-ah-OWWW!

by vlad001 on Nov 6, 2007 8:10 PM CST   0 recs

no me likee
this lineup

gordon
sefo
noah
noch
smith

by milesgmsu on Nov 6, 2007 8:12 PM CST   0 recs

ive been loving joe smith
and i continue to

by milesgmsu on Nov 6, 2007 8:12 PM CST   0 recs

Nice job by smith
this game (so far) makes me feel like the Bulls are 100% Wallace away from turning things around
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:12 PM CST   0 recs

i'd put Tyrus or Wallace in for Noah
about now...he's played decent but it's still his first game back from an injury
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:13 PM CST   0 recs

damn with the 3s
but my boy paul davis is in

by milesgmsu on Nov 6, 2007 8:13 PM CST   0 recs

i'd ask the bullls to challange better
but they would be in fould trouble
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:15 PM CST   0 recs

rookie
that's two three seconds calls on Noah.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 6, 2007 8:16 PM CST   0 recs

yeah
again, i'd put in Wallace or Thomas about now, just give the kid a rest...hes a rookie and coming off an injury
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:16 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

0-4
Who knew this group of players would come together and create the most un-watchable team in the NBA. These guys are starting to stink worse than the Bears and that's saying something.

by vlad001 on Nov 6, 2007 8:17 PM CST   0 recs

Oh.
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:18 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

score is similar to the previous games
but it's because of the Clipper's 3's...not the Bulls' horrible-ness
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by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:17 PM CST   0 recs

Who the fuck is guarding Mobley?
I am at work listening to the radio?

Is it Hinrich?

SUCK IT SABAN!

by 1958ChiTown on Nov 6, 2007 8:20 PM CST   0 recs

they are helping on the perimeter
and he is getting open looks and hitting them.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 6, 2007 8:21 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Quarter, Time & Score please?
At work...

by withmalice on Nov 6, 2007 8:20 PM CST   0 recs

info
43-33 Clips, 7:16 left in 2nd
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:22 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Bulls are getting owned again...
at least this time they need to shut down Mobley. this game is still winable
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:21 PM CST   0 recs

nice job by thomas and deng
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:22 PM CST   0 recs

Last year
Thomas would have tried to dunk and get called for a charge. good job tyrus.

by Sambossanova on Nov 6, 2007 8:22 PM CST   0 recs

that was a nice play
he is much improved.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 6, 2007 8:24 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

this is sooo frustratig
its like NBA live...they just aren;t missing

by milesgmsu on Nov 6, 2007 8:23 PM CST   0 recs

nba live momentum sucks
in live 08, if you are winning by 7 or more, you dont miss. if you are trailing...it's inside dunks or nothing. dont even think of a 3.

btw...mobley = 9 for 9

SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:24 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Well, he finally missed.....
But was fouled. Dang.

by bleargh on Nov 6, 2007 8:24 PM CST   0 recs

the foul
was bullshit. and i generally dont complain. I guess they ahd to give it to him after hinrich got to shoot free throws on the davis foul.  That was funny...Kobe treatment almost.

by Sambossanova on Nov 6, 2007 8:24 PM CST   0 recs

yet another uphill climb...
but I have to believe this is doable. the bulls really are in need of a win. at least let this slow start be shorter lived than the last 3 years
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:26 PM CST   0 recs

Mobley
is roasting Kirk...can someone please guard this man?!?

by ScottieCartwright on Nov 6, 2007 8:27 PM CST   0 recs

lets try Thabo
heck even Duhon couldnt do this bad against him
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:28 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Well, they aren't beating the Pistons
You can ink in a 0-5 start. And its a legit 0-5. They've been thoroughly dominated every single game.

by vlad001 on Nov 6, 2007 8:28 PM CST   0 recs

umm..
Nets: were only dominated in stretches, and they are our kryptonite
Sixers: kinda seemed like they underestimated them, which, knowing the bulls, wont happen again
Bucks: didnt see the game...
Clippers: game nowhere close to over
Pistons: hasnt been played yet, Bulls are much better than they have shown this year

jeeze and I thought I was a pessimist. calm down. 82 game season + playoffs. there is a long way to go.

SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:31 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Vlad only shows up
to forecast gloom and doom when the bulls are losing.  No point in responding. :)
"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 6, 2007 8:36 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

0-5 after only playing 3.5 games?
Guess I might as well turn off the TV and read a book.

by bleargh on Nov 6, 2007 8:34 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

fucking comcast
cutting away from FTs

my fiath in math will not be shaken....they have to even out

by milesgmsu on Nov 6, 2007 8:32 PM CST   0 recs

frick...
i just accidentally refreshed on stoogetv and now i cant get the feed back
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:34 PM CST   0 recs

just got it back...
hoping the bulls play their defense in the 2nd half
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:37 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

comcast
Wow.  I feel bad for you guys. The coverage you get from comcast sucks.  The announcers are ok. Kind of silly. Still better than nothing.

by Sambossanova on Nov 6, 2007 8:37 PM CST   0 recs

missed
FTs by the clips are saving the bulls

by ScottieCartwright on Nov 6, 2007 8:38 PM CST   0 recs

not fair to Tyrus...
but i'd put him back on the bench. the Bulls usually play best when their bench spark comes in. first it was gordon, then tyrus. they dont really have one this year.
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:38 PM CST   0 recs

Wallace
must be injured...

by Sambossanova on Nov 6, 2007 8:39 PM CST   0 recs

frick..Big Ben hits that 99 times out of 100
but he still should have dunked
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by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:41 PM CST   0 recs

wallace injured in head
should have dunked and passed the ball out after the offensive rebound

by lampnasty on Nov 6, 2007 8:43 PM CST   0 recs

In case anybody wants off topic half time talk:
Who else is hardcore looking forward to Super Smash Brothers Brawl?
SAY NO TO THE CHICAGO LAKERS!

by hongydraw on Nov 6, 2007 8:43 PM CST   0 recs

Hell Yea
Sadly No Falco in this game...ill settle for fox i suppose
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Nov 6, 2007 10:46 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Ben Wallace
is playing like garbage.  Whether he's hurt or not, he's hurting the team, and he shouldn't be out there.  That's several times he's come up empty on key plays - missed layups, turned the ball over.  At present, he brings nothing.  The Bulls would be better served with Noah or Gray.  At least they make their layups, and half their free throws.  

by Freethefro on Nov 6, 2007 8:43 PM CST