Open Game Thread #10: Bulls at Denver Nuggets
I really like the Nuggets roster and think they'd be the top team in the East. In fact they could be a top team in the West, if things go right. They gave the Spurs a heck of a scare in last season's playoffs, and with a returning Kenyon Martin (who's overpaid but at worst is another decent big) and more precious gelling time of Iverson and Anthony, I really liked them as one of the non Mavs-Spurs-Suns who could make a run.
Unfortunately for them the injuries have hit early, as starting PG Chucky Atkins and freaking-man-beat Nene are hurt. And we should all be thankful Nene won't be around to toss around the Bulls bigs. I always liked Nene, damnit, so while it's good that he's out for the game (8pm, CSN) I'd like to see him back soon to gauge this Nuggets team.
What about the Bulls? As far as I know (the 'my bulls' email service), Deng is out and A-Drain still in the starting lineup. It's been wrong before (it said that Tyrus would start in the Lakers game), but if Griffin's out there, is there really a point to watch? not really.
I mean I likely will watch it, but it'll have no consequence. If Griffin, Nocioni, and Joe Smith are racking up heavy minutes it just hurts the team all around in various ways: Noc and Smith are injury concerns (remember Noc's feet trouble? How's consecutive 40-minute games helping?) going forward, we'll know nothing about Tyrus and Thabo (and Noah) and how they're developing, and playing Adrian Griffin over anybody on the team likely hurts them short term, anyway. So we're punting games, and not getting ready for the postseason.
A win is a win, so I'd gladly take one (especially one that's a projected loss). There's a good chance the shooting comes around soon, as the Nuggets aren't known for their defense and like to up the pace. Remember kids: when the shots fall, we'll have energy. Not the other way around.
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I'm not
I really hope Kirk gets out of his slump tonight and has a good game. Heck I hope they all play well.
by sue369 on Nov 20, 2007 6:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If playing Adrian a lot is Skiles way of making
by philosoball on Nov 20, 2007 7:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the great thing about charter cable
by KT on Nov 20, 2007 7:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Hawkeyes are
by sue369 on Nov 20, 2007 7:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noc's Feet
We must make our shots. We've had wide open looks the entire trip. Few of these shots are falling. But jumpshots are lower percentage shots. Shots at the rim need to fall. Having Wallace out there is going to allow Camby to patrol the paint all night. Tear drops from our guards should be ready for launch.
by NBA Observer on Nov 20, 2007 6:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Miracle Feet
by alec on Nov 20, 2007 7:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why is everyone trippin?
evidently, our organization needs to be tweaked a lil bit to be a stronger at all levels (management, coaching, players)...but this season isn't lost by any stretch of the imagination
chill out and enjoy the game...
by chicagosportslove23 on Nov 20, 2007 7:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Un - F- in believable
You have Tyrus Thomas who was starting two weeks ago and already has TWO double-doubles....
And Joaquim Noah, one of the more promising rookies in the NBA...
And they're BOTH on the bench in favor of GRIFFIN???
W-T-F???
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 8:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And in the time it took to write that
It's gonna be a long night....(sigh)
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 8:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Add insult to injury
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 8:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Stacey King:
If they need to realize that Allen Iverson is quick, then they've got to be the dumbest team in the league.
by Big D on Nov 20, 2007 8:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Stacy needs to realize
In pre-game, he said "the bulls cannot turn the ball over or make silly turnovers"
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 8:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
At least he's better than Emmitt Smith
by Big D on Nov 20, 2007 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We don't
by Azabullsfan on Nov 20, 2007 8:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You should be thankful
by alec on Nov 20, 2007 8:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Naw, Denver's comms are the usual
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 8:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BG is too nice
by Dr0ne420 on Nov 20, 2007 8:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Noah
by Azabullsfan on Nov 20, 2007 8:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Okay Skiles...I forgive you...
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 8:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nope
by Azabullsfan on Nov 20, 2007 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well....as long as he doesn't shoot the ball....
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 8:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
does watching the bulls constitute as torture yet?
by lampnasty on Nov 20, 2007 8:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
absopositively
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 8:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Andres Nocioni
Andres Nocioni: "Im good basketball player."
by AngryAsianAce on Nov 20, 2007 8:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Norm VanLier made a pre game statement:
I would tend to agree....especially with the line-up he started tonight...
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 8:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They didn't play last night...
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 8:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
another lousy shot by Noah...
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 8:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Someone
by Azabullsfan on Nov 20, 2007 8:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I missed the first six minutes
by bullshooter on Nov 20, 2007 8:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
noce, sefo, thomas
by alec on Nov 20, 2007 8:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good luck...
by withmalice on Nov 20, 2007 8:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
minnesotas a hard matchup at this point
by lampnasty on Nov 20, 2007 8:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
trade
by Dr0ne420 on Nov 20, 2007 8:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
THIS is a great idea....if only they could....
I am convinced this cluster is on Skiles at this point.
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 8:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nuh-uh... no thanks.
noah, tyrus, deng, and skiles for kobe bryant and phil jackson
No way, nuh-uh, not on your life.
by withmalice on Nov 20, 2007 9:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Duhon for 3
by Azabullsfan on Nov 20, 2007 8:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The bulls look even MORE outta synch now
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 8:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
if we start to pool money and
by lampnasty on Nov 20, 2007 8:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That was bad one
by Azabullsfan on Nov 20, 2007 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
KIRK - what a buffoon!
UGH!
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 8:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
and then gets SCHOOLED by Carmello
ugh...
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 8:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
are there any bulls with LESS than two fouls?
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 8:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Haha...Skiles out on the floor in the refs face
Watch your coaching job flash before your eyes...
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 9:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
In Skiles defense - those WERE pretty bad
And F'in Carmello is living on the line tonight, but that's nothing new...
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 9:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gardner!
by Azabullsfan on Nov 20, 2007 9:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bulls announcers
by alec on Nov 20, 2007 9:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well...
by cranscape on Nov 20, 2007 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, it was the same in Chicago last year
I remember that game - it was a day game...and Anthony had something like 30 FT's, and the entire bulls TEAM had less...
I cannot stand the Nuggets...
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 9:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Please...
Chicago's a jumpshooting team.
by withmalice on Nov 20, 2007 9:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There doesn't seem to be a point for them to drive
by cranscape on Nov 20, 2007 9:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't take it anymore.
by cranscape on Nov 20, 2007 9:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Positive?
And the Nuggets ahve taken TWENTY FIVE FT's, and there's still 2 minutes left in the half...
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 9:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think Thabo
by alec on Nov 20, 2007 9:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm trying trying trying
by alec on Nov 20, 2007 9:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
somebody said it this afternoon--
by alec on Nov 20, 2007 9:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
72 points allowed in a half!
BTW, the people who seem to believe that merely replacing Skiles will instantaneously make this team a playoff contender aren't paying attention.
You can get Phil Jackson or Red Auerbach or Mike F'in Ditka, this team won't and can't win unless the guys on the floor play a lot better.
The guards are ludicrously bad at this point in the season.
by 1958ChiTown on Nov 20, 2007 9:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It wouldn't be so bad....
by cranscape on Nov 20, 2007 9:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
unless the guys on the floor play a lot better
You get Phil, and that would generate optimism at the very least...
Skiles is the main reason these guys are playing so bad to begin with...they're sick of the idiot and his stupid antics.
Someone like Jackson at least has rings on multiple fingers and has earned the respect of the basketball community.
Skiles has just gotten stagnant on this team and will never get to the next level...at least not with the Bulls.
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 9:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You have got to be kidding me...
Come on, man. There is absolutely no way you can prove that statement with sound evidence or reason.
by 1958ChiTown on Nov 20, 2007 9:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If I have to explain it to you
Enjoy your game.
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 9:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The only positive of the night
by chgobr on Nov 20, 2007 9:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Done
by ScottSkilles Hair on Nov 20, 2007 9:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Lakers
So denver supose to reach 140 mark easily.
So sad to watch this Bulls team...
by Azabullsfan on Nov 20, 2007 9:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What an ass-kicking
by Big D on Nov 20, 2007 9:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I would love to see Hinrich start the 2nd half
by alec on Nov 20, 2007 9:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
too late
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 9:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's supose
I called Skiles ofcours.
by Azabullsfan on Nov 20, 2007 9:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this isnt normal suckage either
by lampnasty on Nov 20, 2007 9:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And officiating
F....K!!
by Azabullsfan on Nov 20, 2007 9:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow...these refs really ARE being shitheads
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 9:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
VIKTOR TIME
by lampnasty on Nov 20, 2007 9:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We aren't even in games any more.
by chgobr on Nov 20, 2007 9:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Let's review...
the Bulls are down 80-60...
the entire team is in foul trouble...
Heinbrick and Skiles both have T's...
the Bulls are shooting 38% (AGAIN) for the night...
and my TV is on mute due to the assinine denver commentators...
sounds like a typical '07 Bulls game...
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 9:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Noc has the T
by wjb1492 on Nov 20, 2007 9:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oops...I stand corrected
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 10:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the thing that bothers me
by alec on Nov 20, 2007 9:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
how joyless TT looks out there.
(although I can think of many OTHER ways to describe it...) :-)
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 9:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hinbrick(good nickname,Bulish)
by Azabullsfan on Nov 20, 2007 9:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wtf is going on with hinrich
by bullshooter on Nov 20, 2007 9:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
they're playing "follow the loser"...
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 9:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Never thought I'd say this . . .
by Big D on Nov 20, 2007 9:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Gardner has been the Bulls best player tonight
True dat
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 9:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
good to see
by bullshooter on Nov 20, 2007 9:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
kmart is still a thug
did you see him clobber TT coming off the hoop hang?
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 9:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's all starting to come back to me
by alec on Nov 20, 2007 9:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
why I never liked Kenyon Martin
Kmart...AI...notmello...gumby....
They all fit well together on one team.
What amazes me is that they haven't brawled yet...
But if the team ever goes into a losing skid funk....whoa...watch out!! :-)
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 9:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this shit is embarassing to watch
by Dr0ne420 on Nov 20, 2007 9:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not like this
by Big D on Nov 20, 2007 9:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
by bullshooter on Nov 20, 2007 9:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
nugget sideline reporter = dumb blonde
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 9:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
6 minutes for Tyrus thus far
SKILES
NOW!!
by fireskiles on Nov 20, 2007 9:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
is it me
by bullshooter on Nov 20, 2007 9:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
are u insinuating they all have aids?
by lampnasty on Nov 20, 2007 9:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's not right
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 10:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
did all of the bulls players get shorter and skinn
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 9:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
except Hinrich,
by alec on Nov 20, 2007 9:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You might be ON to something there....
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 10:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're absolutly right!
Is it all players responsibility?Do they have traners who can suggest of what to do?
by Azabullsfan on Nov 20, 2007 10:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
strange game
by bullshooter on Nov 20, 2007 9:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Strange?
by Azabullsfan on Nov 20, 2007 10:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
uggg
by hokiefan0705 on Nov 20, 2007 10:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hey - Frank TV is on...MUCH better viewing...
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 10:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
now believing the bulls are this bad is hard enuf
by lampnasty on Nov 20, 2007 10:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's bad...
by withmalice on Nov 20, 2007 10:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yikes
-30
-10
-15
-13
-5
-13
-11
-11
-11
-2
-8
All of the bulls players tonight... I know that stat does not mean much... but Not one person in the positives.... Every player on the nuggets is +...
by hokiefan0705 on Nov 20, 2007 10:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
A new all time low
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 10:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Just for the record . . .
by Big D on Nov 20, 2007 10:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wow...
by hokiefan0705 on Nov 20, 2007 10:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Man
I always kept telling people, "At least I have the Bulls."
I am running outta things to say
by Option27 on Nov 20, 2007 10:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think it might be safe
by alec on Nov 20, 2007 10:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
That's where the Rams thing is in me.
Actually, I don't watch Hockey much but I really do love the Blackhawks. But I don't watch them enough to get me happy daily.
by Option27 on Nov 20, 2007 10:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I only mention the Bandits
by alec on Nov 20, 2007 10:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
White Sox
On the other hand - WTF with trading Garland?
I understand wanting a better SS than Uribe, but GARLAND?
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 10:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The guy they got
by alec on Nov 20, 2007 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pods was one of my favorite players
The Garland trade only made this week worse. The only thing I can hope for is Hunter signing with the Sox soon.
by Option27 on Nov 20, 2007 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
went to three Garland games the last couple years
by alec on Nov 20, 2007 10:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hope for is Hunter signing
Why would Williams pursue a snobby, "look at me" asshole in Hunter instead of a guy like Aaron Rowand who, is one of THE reasons the chemestry worked (one of the 3 stooges) on the '05 Sox and is loved and adored by ALL Sox fans?
He's just as talented, is younger, doesn't need as much to sign, and has a MUCH better TEAM attitude...
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 10:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
IMO
Garland just had one really good year batting
by Option27 on Nov 20, 2007 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Garland just had one really good year batting
Yeah, didn't Garland hit like a Grand Slam in Cincinati or somethin' in '06?
I remember watching that... :-)
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 11:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the cabrera trade
by Mike C on Nov 21, 2007 12:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well
by hokiefan0705 on Nov 20, 2007 10:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Paxson
December is coming,Pax!
by Azabullsfan on Nov 20, 2007 10:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Counting down to the day we can trade Noc
Sad thing is, no one else does
by Option27 on Nov 20, 2007 10:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
this looks like
In my mind I knew the game was over in the 2nd quarter...I kept holding out hope...but the inevitable happened
by ScottieCartwright on Nov 20, 2007 10:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
something
by hokiefan0705 on Nov 20, 2007 10:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
can't wait
by ScottieCartwright on Nov 20, 2007 10:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
lol @ Red Kerr
by ScottieCartwright on Nov 20, 2007 10:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow!
by sue369 on Nov 20, 2007 10:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Watch the first part of the first quarter
Then turn it off as soon as he hits that third basket.
by wjb1492 on Nov 20, 2007 10:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.
by sue369 on Nov 20, 2007 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sue, I know you don't
by alec on Nov 20, 2007 10:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he
The guys on the post game tonight were wondering if there aren't some chemistry problems on the team and that might be some of their problem. It's a thought.
by sue369 on Nov 20, 2007 10:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's what it looked like to me
by bullshooter on Nov 20, 2007 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Silver lining
7 of 10 for 16 points and 8 boards.
Maybe this shows Skiles he can rely on the man
by Option27 on Nov 20, 2007 10:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
come on my dude
If Skiles is trying to "rely" on Noah, then this season is more of a joke than I thought
by ScottieCartwright on Nov 20, 2007 10:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh Ok
Saw the box score
by Option27 on Nov 20, 2007 10:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What's REALLY bad
Holy shit batman.
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Scottie's right, unfortunately
But overall, this team is totally lost. It really does look like JV hour. I watched the Knicks-Warriors game and the Knicks looked pathetic. Then I watched this game and I thought, wow, Saturday should be a really tight game. That is not a good sign.
I might have to bail on watching the Bulls for a month or two. Watching them now is turning into a big waste of time. After watching nearly every game for the last 3+ seasons, its a shame to feel that way. I want to believe they will "work themselves out of their slump" but I have a hard time seeing it. Instead, I see one of the bigger disappointments in recent NBA history.
A team that can be good doesn't get repeatedly blown out by 20+. Such a shame.
by preverbal on Nov 20, 2007 11:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this season is more of a joke
Get it?
DOH!
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 11:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noah
by SlamDunk on Nov 20, 2007 11:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yannik, is that you??
Second of all, did you not watch the same game that I did? Did he or did he not score the majority of his baskets in garbage time?? It's a simple yes or no answer.
I never said anything was WRONG with that, you moron, I simply stated when his points were scored.
Kick back, put your feet up, and go grab a coke and a smile...
by ScottieCartwright on Nov 21, 2007 8:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Scottie, you're still a certified idiot
Now back to the issue at hand. And to expose you, I am going to quote what you said in response to Option 27 when he observed that in 22 minutes of playing time Noah was 7 of 10 for 16 points and 8 boards. Your sarcastic response was: "Practically all of that, maybe except for 2 of those points, came in garbage ("embarrassment") time."
The truth was that only Thomas Gardner with 9 points had more than Noah's 6 in the first half of play. To follow you logic, Gardner's points were also in garbage time. Maybe garbage time for the Bulls started few minutes into the game. What do you mean by "practically all"? To make you more unhappy I'll add that he had three assists, a steal and a block in, I guess, "garbage time."
How could a moron call somebody a moron?
by SlamDunk on Nov 21, 2007 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bulls did pretty good without Deng or Tyrus.
by philosoball on Nov 20, 2007 10:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wait a sec
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO TYRUS?!
by Option27 on Nov 20, 2007 10:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Illinois
Has Jordan played yet?!
by Option27 on Nov 20, 2007 10:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's one thing to lose.
My goodness, the team allowed KENYON FUCKING MARTIN to use it like a crusty cum rag after a cheap lay with herpes ridden hooker in an hourly hotel room somewhere in Tijuana.
I accept that the Nuggets are better than the Bulls, but can they be THAT much better?
I'm at a loss. I really am. What is going on?
Deng is still out, and its still early, so that gives the narrowest wedge of hope.
by 1958ChiTown on Nov 20, 2007 10:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
use it like a crusty cum rag
...didn't your mother ever wash your mouth out with soap?
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 11:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
preview of tomorrow's post
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 20, 2007 11:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Fire Skiles first
by Bluelou on Nov 20, 2007 11:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fire SKILES NOW
He needs to go. What player has his back? Which of the players respect him? Who does he get along with? The coach can't be the most hated person on the team. The NBA doesn't work like that. No one is responding to his mind games anymore. The players are becoming openly defiant. Does anyone think Wallace is the only player disgruntled? I'm not sure Gordon, Tyrus, Noah, Hinrich or Deng are too happy right now. Its times for Plan B. Who is the Bulls top assistant?
by danger mouse on Nov 20, 2007 11:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I missed this one
by marionette on Nov 20, 2007 11:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Skiles Quotables
I've seen this lack of effort from Thomas. I think Skiles may actually be right here.
by NBA Observer on Nov 21, 2007 8:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my God.
by alec on Nov 20, 2007 11:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If we are looking at the same
by 1958ChiTown on Nov 21, 2007 12:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We need an offesnive minded coach
by eross226 on Nov 20, 2007 11:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing
by alec on Nov 21, 2007 12:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ron Turner were replaced by Marty Schottenheimer
THEN Turner, THEN Babs and THEN...? :-)
by Bluelou on Nov 21, 2007 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On the Denver defense
-sw
by Steve Weinman on Nov 21, 2007 12:04 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
We
by eross226 on Nov 21, 2007 12:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Here, I'll share my email to Sam:
--alec
by alec on Nov 21, 2007 12:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
next time
by bullshooter on Nov 21, 2007 12:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Last time,
by alec on Nov 21, 2007 12:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
please share his response
by snley on Nov 21, 2007 12:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He is.
Well, not exactly. Thomas had two games in what, the first five, that were better than that, and Sam still couldn't help himself. This column tonight, in my opinion, was despicable.
by alec on Nov 21, 2007 12:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Despicable?
by ChrisRobin on Nov 21, 2007 3:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know that that's true.
by alec on Nov 21, 2007 8:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In this spirit of 'sharing'...
http://www.csweekly.com/featuredStory/index/id/108
by withmalice on Nov 21, 2007 12:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
you forgot to mention
by SRQman on Nov 21, 2007 2:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
very nice article
by alec on Nov 21, 2007 8:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
in the spirit of baseball
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 21, 2007 8:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my god! We are tied with the Knicks...
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Nov 21, 2007 1:13 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I have never seen
And whatever dog house bullshit is going on between Tyrus and Skiles needs to stop immediately. Can't Paxon intervene here like he did when Wallace was mad about the head band fiasco??
by RogersPark Kris on Nov 21, 2007 1:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wana just stop watching but for whatever reason
Ohhhhhh yeah CM,Brand and Livingston all out.
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Nov 21, 2007 1:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bigger question
Also about wallace, is it true during the suns game they talked about how the bulls stayed with Joe Smiths uncle (who lives in pheonix), and while there Joe Smiths uncle was greeting all the players, and when he got to wallace he and wallace had a conversation something along the lines of:
"hey didnt you used to be the back to back defensive player of the year?"
"Yea, thats right"
"oh...What happened to you?"
Ben wallace i guess told the tnt reporters, and they told the media. At the end of that game wallace was also benched.
Then in the clippers game we saw wallace dominating, and even in the lakers game there seemed less of those finger rolls that he does, and more dunking. I initially thought that maybe skiles' benching had a good affect on wallace, but then i wondered if what really happened was this, a phone call to Chauncy:
"Skiles that ##### put me on the bench in the 4th man. We could have won, this is just like that #### that mother###### Saunders pulled. I hate this #####"
"Ben Ben, it was one thing when Saunders put you on the bench man, you were a beast and you deserved to go out there and take care of business, but brotha, you have been playing like #### out there in chicago"
"Man its this team they..."
"Cmon man, you got that soft, no wonder we ##### your ### last year in the playoffs. You gotta help this team out man, bring out the beast"
....yea im bored so i posted what i truly do believe happened.
by piccolomair on Nov 21, 2007 3:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I keep comming back
It's like one of those really bad sci-fi movies where the nightmare is stuck in a repeating loop...
Argh.
by Bluelou on Nov 21, 2007 9:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Where do we go from here?
by tomcat on Nov 21, 2007 1:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Nov 21, 2007 2:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh
This isnt the nfl, where theres only a handful of games to play and then its over. There are a total of 82 games in the season, and just how it tends to be, you are allowed to lose about 40 of them and still find a way into the playoffs. So in other words, the bulls still have a long ways to go, from EVERYTHING.
Like you said joejoe, take a game at a time, and win some games and try to make it into the playoffs. Who knows, once there maybe they will play like our ideal bulls rather than THIS reality.
by piccolomair on Nov 21, 2007 3:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just have this mental image
"There's no place like home... There's no place like home...There's no place like home...There's no place like home..."
by withmalice on Nov 21, 2007 4:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
What if
Good news. Knicks are among the worst defense teams in the league and have the same kind of stagnant offense as Chicago.
by NBA Observer on Nov 21, 2007 9:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So what you're REALLY saying
Oh.....joy.....
by Bluelou on Nov 21, 2007 9:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just reread Sam's game article and noticed
One thing that bothers me about this is that Skiles gave Smith a lay-up with his comment about the particularly amateurish type of turnovers the Bulls committed in the game, an obvious reference to Hinrich dribbling the ball off his heel while trying to go behind his back, and Sam ignored it.
Instead, he wrote this long piece about Thomas, the clear implication that Thomas is the Bulls big problem. To my mind, a fifth year player playing like a sixth grade girl (I can say this from personal experience, no disrespect meant toward sixth grade girls) is a much bigger problem than a second-year bench player not yet finding his game.
by alec on Nov 21, 2007 8:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
replays
by NBA Observer on Nov 21, 2007 9:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that was on the turnover
by alec on Nov 21, 2007 9:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
clarity
None of this excuses a 5th year pro not being able to cross the half court line with the basketball.
by NBA Observer on Nov 21, 2007 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I am a sixth grade girl....
by alec on Nov 21, 2007 8:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone see Thomas get bullied by
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Nov 21, 2007 10:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Should have
by NBA Observer on Nov 21, 2007 11:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just another example...
by alec on Nov 21, 2007 10:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
First time post....
by Gogiman on Nov 21, 2007 11:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can't judge Gray
by NBA Observer on Nov 21, 2007 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gray shooting is better than Wallace shooting.
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Nov 21, 2007 11:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

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