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That starts Adrian Griffin over Tyrus Thomas. And for those who think starting's not a big deal, Thomas has played a total of 21 minutes the past two games.

Skiles is regressing as a coach, and it would be even more evident if his players weren't bailing him out from the criticism by also being terrible. Hinrich is likely the worst starting PG in basketball. Sefolosha has not developed in the least. Those are just the more egregious examples, the rest just aren't any different than last year.

But that doesn't change the fact that Skiles is making things harder on himself, by instead of taking a chance on his 'developmental' players (and if he thinks Tyrus is one, that's ridiculous), he's circling the wagons and trusting his veterans. That's what all coaches do, I guess, but Adrian Griffin should just be collecting his undeserved player-coach contract at this point, not starting. And at this rate, Joe Smith will be on the inactive list by January.

Good teams don't get blown out by 30+ points twice in a week. And unlike last season, there aren't a glut of gimme games coming up in the schedule. This start is a missed opportunity, and even if Skiles' plan is to have them playing their best basketball for the playoffs, I hope he enjoys starting that first playoff game on the road.

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But didn't Bill Simmons say...
...that starting Thomas was the wrong thing to do? I mean, Gordon is the best sixth man in the league and Thomas is great for energy. So this is OBVIOUSLY the right thing to do. I'm sure Sam Smith would agree, too.

I don't see why you can't understand this, Matt. It's so OBVIOUS if you just WATCH.

Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Nov 19, 2007 8:30 AM CST   0 recs

I know you're being sarcastic
but to the point of that Simmons article, I really don't like pigeonholing players as 'energy' players. Because it's freaking lazy and offers nothing.

Usually the cliche is used to mean energy=rebounding, which is something that can be tracked.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 19, 2007 11:26 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

mid-season replacement
if anything, it gives hope for next year.
Officially a hater on Ballhype!

by hscs on Nov 19, 2007 8:33 AM CST   0 recs

Do you really think that Paxson would replace
Skiles mid-season?

I just can't see that happening. JMO.  

SUCK IT SABAN!

by 1958ChiTown on Nov 19, 2007 11:43 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I don't see it happening either
but Skiles is going to handicap the team with his nonsense whether they make the playoffs or not. Might as well do the hiring and firing now so there's more time for a new coach to figure things out, and the Bulls can be back on track next year.
Officially a hater on Ballhype!

by hscs on Nov 19, 2007 11:48 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

As with Riley's wisecrack,
you wonder whether the Bulls would be any better if Skiles himself suited up. I mean, could they be worse?

Hinrich is not only the starting point guard but also the engine of the offense. When he's off in outer space like he has been this season, the team is going to suffer.

Sure, the Bulls as a group shot horribly and look inept on offense, but it starts with Kirk. On those four possessions in the middle of the third quarter when the Lakers turned a tied game into a 12-point lead, Kirk was in. He was bringing the ball up. He was making bad decisions, missing shots and turning the ball over.

It's easy to blame Skiles, but he's not the one missing all of those shots and making bad decisions.

I thought the Bulls were back... turns out they're just a back end...

by bullhockey on Nov 19, 2007 8:57 AM CST   0 recs

Skiles is making plenty of bad decisions
Starting the worst player in the NBA being one of them. Playing the worst player, and Gardner at the same time being two of them. Letting Thomas rot on the bench until it's early garbage/embarrassment time being three of them. That's only one game too.
Officially a hater on Ballhype!

by hscs on Nov 19, 2007 9:06 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

"garbage/embarrassment time"
that bothered me almost as much as the lack of playing time before then.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 19, 2007 11:03 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Guys looked tired
especially in the second half.  They played well in the first.  I am a little curious about Tyrus's playing time.  Seems like he must have taken a dump in Skiles favorite seat on the bus or something.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 19, 2007 8:58 AM CST   0 recs

Fatigue is a perplexing issue
given the low average age of this team. Weren't we led to believe that this team's young legs would be able to run older teams out of the building, and withstand second nights of back-to-back games?

I mean, you could argue that the Bulls' post seasons have taken their toll, but then what about the Lakers? What about the mileage on Kobe Bryant's legs?

When Skiles first took over for Cartwright the Bulls were getting run out of the gym, and I distinctly remember him saying something like, "No offense to previous coaches, but I didn't get a chance to run this team through the proper conditioning during training camp."

Well, this team bears the stamps of Paxson and Skiles and no one else, so it's not an excuse anymore. And yet there they are, with players like Derek Fisher and Lamar Odom whizzing by them like they were going in reverse.

I thought the Bulls were back... turns out they're just a back end...

by bullhockey on Nov 19, 2007 9:19 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

no matter how bad the bulls are playing...
skiles deserves much of the blame for this awful start.  yes, he cant be blamed for how awful hinrich has been, but it is clear that he did something wrong in preparing this team for the season.  this is not a young team anymore and theres no excuse for the slow start, especially with how easy the early schedule has been.  

minutes and skiles' ludicrous "rotation" have always been a problem and continue to be this year, and any coach that thinks that solving the early season problems should be to give griffin and gardner more playing time, less PT for tyrus and noah, and giving free reign to nocioni to do what he loves most (play out of control and jack up shots whenever he wants) is a coach who doesnt belong in the league.  i've always thought that skiles is a good coach for a young, developing team and a poor coach for a veteran team (re: kidd's unspeakable hatred for him), and this year is proving that.  could it be possible that these players-- who arent so young anymore-- have grown tired of skiles' surly demeanor and inexplicable substitution patterns and have just tuned him out and are going through the motions?  sure looks that way to me.  i realize that there's a plethora of history saying that midseason coaching changes rarely work, but in this case i think it's warranted to salvage this season and the future.  give him the rest of the circus trip to try to turn it around and if they come home 3-9, can his ass.

by Mike C on Nov 19, 2007 9:34 AM CST   0 recs

Bulls are still a very young team
Deng 22, BG is 25, Tyrus is 21, Thabo is 21 or 22, Noah is 22, Duhon is 25.  Those are all guys who are expected to deliver.  Kirk 26 and Noc 27 are the only guys who I would say are near or in there prime.  Wallace and Smith and Griffin are all 32 or older.  Only two guys who should really be counted on for big minutes and good production.  Kirk really isn't holding up his end right now.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 19, 2007 10:08 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

well tyrus thabo and noah
havent really been playing, and if your a guard 25 is basically the start of your prime.  my point about the youth thing is that the core of this team is not that young.  sure, most of em are on the young side of their prime, but these guys have been in the league 4 years now.  they're veterans as far as im concerned.

by Mike C on Nov 19, 2007 11:18 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Pfft...
There are PLENTY of guys in that age-range (and younger!) that are performing at a very high level.  If this team is going to go anywhere, any time, then I believe they would be showing more than they are now.
Face reality: they're a young jumpshooting team that leans heavily on an old, undersized (overpaid) center for defense.  Teams like that don't win championships.

by withmalice on Nov 19, 2007 5:34 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Duhon's expected to deliever?????!!!!!
ahahhhahhahhaaahha!!! ahahhhahhhahh!!!  wait......ahhhahhhahhhhhaha!  almost done...ahhahhahhhhahhhaahahhahhahhhahhahahah!
Is it me or does Lebron walk like a duck?!

by GranvilleWaiters on Nov 20, 2007 12:24 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

whoops. Spelling error > Deliver
Is it me or does Lebron walk like a duck?!

by GranvilleWaiters on Nov 20, 2007 12:25 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Memo to Kirk:
Get your ass to a gym ASAP. Work on your shot until you drop. Your shooting is horrendous and your turnovers are stupid. Where is your head during the games? Wow Dude, get your shit together.

I didn't stay up for the second half but watched some of it at the fitness center this morning. Why the hell didn't TT play more? I don't understand this at all.

Racecar spelled backwards is racecar.

by sue369 on Nov 19, 2007 9:36 AM CST   0 recs

Way to go Sue!
I've been wondering why we here about BG and Luol getting early shots in, working their way out of slumps, and nothing on the captain...

by Freethefro on Nov 19, 2007 11:07 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Thank You
It's about time we come to our senses about Kirk.  He is a good player just playing like crap.  He is a waste of a roster spot if he cant make open jump shots.  He would turn into dare I say "Chris Duhon"

by tyrus4prez on Nov 19, 2007 11:26 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

duhon
is better than kirk at this point cause he doesnt have fouling issues and he is a natural point guard, aka he isnt a very good shooter but doesnt make as many dumb decisions).

by Sambossanova on Nov 19, 2007 3:06 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

The scary thing is
you may very well be right.  I wonder, if Duhon didn't feel that one of his primary jobs was to lob threes, if he wouldn't be a lot better than Kirk at setting the team up.

by alec on Nov 19, 2007 3:12 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Sorry, but Duhon makes A LOT of dumb decisions!
Is it me or does Lebron walk like a duck?!

by GranvilleWaiters on Nov 20, 2007 12:22 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

What the hell I have been saying that
for the past year and a half?
Red Kerr's cough button.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Nov 19, 2007 11:49 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

take that as a measure
of how often people actually read or care about what you post every thirty seconds.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 19, 2007 11:58 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

But you
want to trade him away. I don't. I want him to get better to help this team.
Racecar spelled backwards is racecar.

by sue369 on Nov 19, 2007 1:06 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Sue is mad as hell...
...and she's not going to take this anymore!
Wrecked 'em? Damn near killed 'em!

by mdmnd9294 on Nov 19, 2007 1:19 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Gosh, I remember
when I first started posting here.  I was critical of Hinrich, Paxson and Skiles...and I just got shredded by the gang here.  Well, folks, welcome to reality--I've been waiting for you.

by alec on Nov 19, 2007 9:46 AM CST   0 recs

obviously
You should take over for Matt, and everyone.
Officially a hater on Ballhype!

by hscs on Nov 19, 2007 9:59 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Ah, yes, you in particular,
as I recall, were pasrticularly vitriolic in your sarcastic abuse.  Reality's a bitch, ain't it?

by alec on Nov 19, 2007 10:15 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

alecreality.blogspot.com
Start it up.
Officially a hater on Ballhype!

by hscs on Nov 19, 2007 10:30 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

yes, gloating about 'being right'
while seeing the Bulls start like shit is a real nice contribution.

(and I won't get into the problem with any 'correctness' of 'predictions' based on nothing)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 19, 2007 10:44 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Are you two
room-mates?  Anything we should know about?

by alec on Nov 19, 2007 10:45 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Let's see...
...2nd Bulls loss on this trip, and unless it was on another thread, I don't think the 2nd annoying commenter has been banned yet. Just sayin', Matt.

by BenGo07 on Nov 19, 2007 10:50 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

according to the rules
that I'm making up as we go along...I'll give myself until the start of the next game.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 19, 2007 10:53 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

oh yeah
now that it's been mentioned, another rule (in addition to no voting, and no nominating) is no mentioning. Adds to the suspense.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 19, 2007 10:58 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I could always
reincarnate as Chad.

by alec on Nov 19, 2007 11:02 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Ease up man...
It's not like I come to this site read intelligent discourse on Bulls Basketball.  I come for the vaguely homophobic insults.  Actually, now that I think about it, this site really could learn a thing or two from the youtube comments section.

by CatBrains on Nov 19, 2007 11:18 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Please, please, please
kick me off.  I can't find the "I quit" link, and I'm so tired of it here.

by alec on Nov 19, 2007 11:39 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Wow, you predicted Skiles sucks
Good job!  You are a genuis.  Next, you will predict that one day Grossman will throw an interception.  Or perhaps next game, Gordon will shoot a jumper.  We should all be bowing down to your great wisdom.  Are you happy now?  Someone acknowledged your "prediction" that was only shared by 50% of all Bulls fans.  

by danger mouse on Nov 19, 2007 11:46 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

May I take this
as a compliment?  I think I will.

by alec on Nov 19, 2007 11:37 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

You aren't
sitting across the desk from young master hscs, are you?

by alec on Nov 19, 2007 3:02 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

It could make sense.
Coach Skiles decisions could make sense if the team won, if the team wasn't blow out (yet had the lead at half time.)
  1. The Bulls tried to go small. The Bulls settled, and Heinrich was terrible. For a team to go small they need to be a) fast and b) have a leader, solid point guard.
  2. Not having Deng and Thomas reduced our rebounding.
  3. Wallace was INeffective against Bynum. REALLY ineffective. And that would make sense because Wallace is 6-7 and Bynum is 7-1. This burns the most because Wallace was in there for defense, and he couldn't get the job done. A switch should have been made to put Thomas on Bynum. Or Gray, someone with size. Wallace is not getting the job done. I'm sick of wallace.
  4. Perimeter defense was lax. The Lakers bench is not good, but they are good enough to shoot if they are open.
No one picked up the offense. No one carried the Bulls' offense. The only player that could create his own shot was Gordon, and they were on him hard. The other Bulls' players are either unable to create their own shot, or their play is sub-standard.

I'm rooting for the Nuggets to teach the bulls a lesson.

by chicago-homesick-blues on Nov 19, 2007 9:56 AM CST   0 recs

I just had to see it to believe it
I was there last night as well as the previous night. Both times was sitting right to the left of the Bulls bench.

Quite the difference in nights. You could say night and day.

Last night, the Bulls were lifeless. I was tellin' a friend of mine at the game, it was probably the worst basketball I have ever seen played at a game I was at.

No offense to the Lakers, but the Bulls did it to themselves last night. I really couldn't figure out why Tyrus wasn't playing at all pretty much.

I was dumbfounded when I saw Adrian go out for the opening tip. I was just looking around asking people why Tyrus or Noah wasn't in there instead with Noc moving to the 3. Shit, I would have taken Joe Smith as well.

Like most of us, I was a huge Skiles fan. Those days seem like fond memories now.  I can't take his tactics anymore. Like hscs wrote near the top of this post, having Gardner and Griffin in the game at the same time had me almost puking into my $8.25 Bud Light.

It was really funny how much disinterest Kobe seemed to have at the beginning of the game, when the Bulls were still in the game even whilst playing miserably. Once the second half started, you could just see how fast he turned it on and the game got outta hand for Chicago. All with a flip of a switch.

I seriously can't take the rotation anymore at all. Why draft Noah at all? Wasn't he supposed to be that "help right away" kind of player? You're not helping his confidence by sitting him for 3 straight games while he's watching his team getting their butts whipped.  And even though the guy was 0 for 7 on his field goal attempts coming into the games, he does a lot more than shoot. He changes tempo and gives the team instant energy. WHY NOT PUT HIM IN?!

There are somethings that Skiles can't control obviously, like Kirk's shooting woes. But he can really put an effort to changing games in the Bulls favor instead of adjusting to the other teams' strategies. Guys like Noah and Thomas do that for a team. When you start Griffin to guard Kobe, you're clearly playing into the hands of the Lakers right off the bat.

by Option27 on Nov 19, 2007 10:13 AM CST   0 recs

"Why draft Noah at all?"
Wouldn't surprise me if Pax is asking himself the same question, and wondering what the hell his coach is doing.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 19, 2007 10:16 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I think there must be
a very uncomfortable dynamic going on in Bulls' practices.  Ben Wallace, the nasty old veteran, sees his former self, only taller, reflected in Joakim Noah.  It's probably clear to everyone in the room that Noah is bringing what Wallace is supposed to, but can't.  When, as a coach, do you just acknowledge reality, and make the switch?  

by alec on Nov 19, 2007 10:23 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Kind of like "The Aldridge Theory"
You play Noah or Tyrus 35 minutes a games (Not saying that's what I want), they'll probably put up some impressive stats like Wallace's big night on Saturday.

by Option27 on Nov 19, 2007 10:26 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Right.
That, I think, is precisely what Skiles (and maybe Paxson, too) is terrified of.  Then he really would be forced to face the issue head-on.

by alec on Nov 19, 2007 10:38 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

But Big Ben is upset
If we don't play Big Ben, he's going to be upset. We have to play him or else he'll whine.

Did you know he's getting ~$30,400.00 dollars per rebound?

by chicago-homesick-blues on Nov 19, 2007 11:20 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

So he's tried the mixed up lineups,
tried cajoling, tried criticizing - seems like the only thing Skiles hasn't done is set a consistent lineup.  Hmmm, maybe that would help?  (Of course, not if it includes A-Drain starting and Ty not playing.)  Whatever lack of confidence issues are going on, and regardless of your opinion on professional athletes lacking confidence, the herky-jerky lineup can't be helping that.

Get the younger guys some time to play when the game's not already out of hand.  And if Kirk needs to shoot himself out of this horrendous slump, why not leave him out there to do it with the game getting out of hand?  And why bother "saving" Noc and his fouls when the game is spiraling out of control?  I hate that I'm so irritable over this that I'm still grouchy the next morning!

"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 19, 2007 10:24 AM CST   0 recs

For the life
of me I can't understand not playing TT. That is on my last nerve today.

Another thing I don't understand is how a team can look so with it one night and the next night they look like a tom cat after he snuck out of the house and spent the night out. Is that on the coach?

Racecar spelled backwards is racecar.

by sue369 on Nov 19, 2007 1:22 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

This is great
I was about to question Brian Hanley for not even mentioning Griffin in his game recap, but he did have this in his notes column:
Skiles replaced Deng with nine-year veteran Adrian Griffin on Sunday, bypassing Tyrus Thomas and Joakim Noah. Skiles suggested he may start to increase playing time for his veteran players.

Does anyone ever ask the follow-up question: why?

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 19, 2007 10:32 AM CST   0 recs

Matt, I'm pretty sure Skiles actually
made this remark after the Clipper's game, in which he did play his veterans, and they won the game for him.  This looks like another case of Hanley lap-dogging Skiles...holding out the quote to defend a bad game, hoping that fans missed the true context.

by alec on Nov 19, 2007 10:42 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Hanley makes it even more interesting
because he was absolutely killing Hinrich last year in the playoffs.  Now, he hardly mentions Hinrich's struggles.  Between the disappearance of Tyrus's PT and Kirk's poor start, here's a story there that nobody is telling us.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 19, 2007 10:45 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

about asking
whatever happened to the ask sam weekly column.  that was entertaining and I would like to hear what he has to say about all this craziness in response to fan criticism.

by Sambossanova on Nov 19, 2007 3:13 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

taken a dump in Skiles favorite seat
This has been my drool cup all season (seems like it's been months already, doesn't it?)...

By reading all the posts, I think it's safe to say that most everyone here agrees that Skiles has lost it.
And WHATEVER Thomas did or didn't do, it's NOT a good idea to have him on the bench just because Skiles doesn't like him or he's pissed at him.
Nor are these ridiculous lineups helping anyting.
And the bitch list goes on and on....

The unfortunate part, is that Skiles IS the coach, and although he might have some momentary flashes of coaching brilliance, he will remain coaching according to what he usually is and does.
And that would seem to indicate that this season and the Bulls in general are lost unless / until Skiles is gone.

Which is why it's so hard to be optimistic.  

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 19, 2007 10:41 AM CST   0 recs

Fingers crossed
That's one of the reasons I hope a big trade happens that will hopefully force Skiles' hand on his line ups and rotation. When you only have 5-7 good players, you kind of have no choice.

by Option27 on Nov 19, 2007 10:57 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

hasn't stopped him so far
Adrian Griffin isn't a good player, he gets minutes. If Skiles doesn't have the PT carrot to dangle, he runs out of motivational ploys. Even a return of Ron Dupree and Linton Johnson wouldn't change that.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 19, 2007 10:59 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

defense
Skiles brought Griffin in thinking he'd play solid defense against Kobe. I guess Skiles forgot that we need offense, and griffin doesn't play that side of the court.

How can the Bulls expect to compete in a game while playing Gardner, Griffin, and Wallace?

by chicago-homesick-blues on Nov 19, 2007 11:24 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Just call him Calamine
or better yet, Prozac, since he's only there for his calming effect.

Caution:  may cause drowsiness, dizziness or bouts of depression or frustration in Bulls fans. May cause laughing fits, hysteria or increased sense of self-worth in Bulls opponents.

I thought the Bulls were back... turns out they're just a back end...

by bullhockey on Nov 19, 2007 12:00 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I can almost understand
Skiles not wanting to start Tyrus as some sort of punishment but he should have been in the game within the first 5 minutes, not once the game was out of hand in the second half.  

Skiles has lost it and this team.  

by upther on Nov 19, 2007 10:53 AM CST   0 recs

Seems to me
like Skiles punishing Noah for "talking too much",
and Thomas for...h-mmm...I don't know.
May be we need help of psycho doktor,and Scott may
talk to him about his deep complexses...

by Azabullsfan on Nov 19, 2007 11:00 AM CST   0 recs

nah
Noah doesn't know the offense. He also shoots from the groin. (That's why Skiles limits his PT.)

by chicago-homesick-blues on Nov 19, 2007 11:28 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

maybe it's for the best
what's so great about this offense that it has to be known, anyway? Unless it's 'run up and take a long 2-pointer', Hinrich hasn't learned it either.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 19, 2007 11:30 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

OK
Any theory about TT's playing time yesterday?

by Azabullsfan on Nov 19, 2007 11:30 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Noah
Noah is probably gonna be in the bench and probably belongs there until mid season or so.  I agree that Tyrus not playing is getting ridiculous and I am not  a tyrus fanatic.  

As for Noah, what exactly is he going to help us with?  I haven't seen him do anything that would suggest he is ready to play anything more than scrub minutes on either side of the floor.  The guy has played only a couple of games and thats after recovering from injury.  You can't expect him to be an integral part of changing the momentum.  I hope  he is a good player in the future, and that he won't become the next Adam Morrison.

by Sambossanova on Nov 19, 2007 3:17 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

helps with rebounding
especially helpful for the Hinrich brick-fest, potentially.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 19, 2007 3:28 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Height and long arms
Noah isn't jumping out of the roof, but he has long arms and height to reach balls to create new offensive possessions.  You just hope to god that he doesn't have the ball in his hands with under 5 seconds on the shot clock.  He's only a threat to get to fouled and give you 1 of 2 at the FT line.

I'd be looking for spots to get Noah minutes.  He should get in for close to 10 per night.  He can't get in the game though when the Bulls are trailing by more than 10.

by NBA Observer on Nov 19, 2007 3:40 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Wow. Noah compared to Morrison.
Though I get your point (bust), I can't think of two players with more different attributes/games. I would bet you anything Morrison will never be considered a rebounder or a defender. Noah has a chance to at least, agreed?

by marionette on Nov 19, 2007 3:53 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I thought Tyrus was injured
I can't believe Tyrus didn't get any PT in the first half of the game.  I figured he was injured or broke a team rule.  Why else would he just sit there when the Bulls need his shot blocking to deter Bynum away from the basket?

Then I remembered we're coached by Scott Skiles.  Sure, Chicago shot poorly again last night, but then Skiles went to the three guard lineup again.  This lineup sucks.  We gave up buckets, scored none, and gave the game away in the crucial third quarter.

To add insult to injury, Kobe never got off on the night.  He finished with 18 lackluster points.  He did score in the third just before heading to the bench for his standard rest.

The Skiles player rotation is just a complete mind f*&k right now.  It's all over the map.  Somebody has to try and get through to Skiles right now.  Maybe we need to criticize him in Italian.

by NBA Observer on Nov 19, 2007 11:18 AM CST   0 recs

Time for Pax . . .
To have a little "discussion" with Skiles.  Bryan Colangelo had a little talk with Sam Mitchell around this time last year, and Andrea Bargnani immediately started getting more playing time after that.  Coincidentally enough, the Raptors also started winning games.  There's no law that says the GM can't tell the coach that certain players should or shouldn't be playing.

by Big D on Nov 19, 2007 11:41 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I think Pax
might be scared to try to tell Skiles what to do.

It doesn't seem to be in his nature anyways

by Option27 on Nov 19, 2007 12:08 PM CST to parent up   0 recs