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Saying goodbye to the inept trio and other positives

[Another great Diary from sbulls9030. The main point is something very few prognosticators have noticed: Even without acquiring a 'low-post scorer', the Bulls' acquisitions should improve the offense from their frontcourt. -Matt]

One thing that is clear from NBA history is that teams with really good point differentials win championships.  For the Bulls to be a championship caliber team, the Bulls must improve their point differential.  Last year the Bulls finished 5th in the NBA in point differential by outscoring opposing teams by 5 points, but were still more than 3 points behind league leader and NBA champion San Antonio.  This team will need to get closer to San Antonio's 8 point differential in order to compete for a championship.   Dean Oliver's Four Factors summarize the four major categories that lead to point differential.  Here are the four factor rankings for the Bulls last season along with each category's importance, what statistic it's measured by, and the Bulls ranking relative to the rest of the league.  This chart makes it easy to see where the opportunities for improvement are.  The Bulls must shoot better, take better care of the ball, and rebound better on both ends of the floor.


Factor        Off (Rk)   Def (Rk)
+------------+---------+----------+
 Shootimg     .493 (17)  .473 ( 3) effective FG% = 40%
 Turnovers    .166 (24)  .180 ( 2) turnovers/possessions = 25%
 Rebounding   .286 ( 9)  .743 (10) rebound rates = 20%
 Free Throws  .229 (22)  .252 (19) FTM/FGA = 15%
+------------+---------+----------+

The Bulls must become a better shooting team.  Shooting is the most significant factor in point differential, and the needs to improve in this season.    The issue here is not how many jump shots the Bulls take or a lack of the post play.  The Bulls take about the same % of jump shots as any other team.  The real issue with this team was its inability to make shots close to the basket.  The Bulls finished dead last in close shot FG% at 50.1%.    Average teams in this category shoot 55% on close shots and the leaders in this category shoot over 60% on close shots.  Luckily this is an area that should improve this season because the team said goodbye to Malik Allen, Michael Sweetney, and P.J. Brown who combined to be simply awful last year.

              Min      ORtg    DRtg  PW       PL    PW%
Sweetney    385    91    98    0.5    1.3    0.262
Malik Allen    638    96    100    0.9    1.7    0.338
P.J. Brown    1455    95    100    1.9    3.7    0.340
That trio ate up 30 minutes of playing time per game, and took nearly 10 FGA/g with a combined FG% of 41.3%.  Nocioni, Smith, Thomas, and Noah will not only shoot much better inside, but will turn many of those layups into dunks.  One of the big questions here will be how well Thomas and Noah finish inside shots that they can't dunk.  They don't need to be able to post people up, but they do need to be able to finish with a jump hook or a layup when they catch the ball close to the basket.  Ben Wallace can help in this area as well.  He's shown the ability to make over 50% as recently as 05/06.

Reducing turnovers is the second most significant task for this season. Gordon, Deng, Nocioni, Wallace, and Hinrich's turnover rates all increased last season.  These five accounted for 70.4% of all the team's possessions with Deng, Gordon, and Hinrich accouting for over 53.5% of the team's possessions.  Simply returning to their 05/06 turnover rates would reduce the Bulls turnovers by almost 2 per game.  The secondary issue will be keeping Sefolosha, Thomas, and Noah's turnovers down to a manageable level.  But, improvement here is the chief responsibility of Gordon, Deng, and Hinrich.

Rebounding is also a key area where I expect the team to improve. 9th and 10th in the league is good, but not good enough, especially on the defensive glass.  The Bulls weren't a bad defensive rebounding team.  But a lot of times last year it felt like it, as the opposing team grabbed offense rebound after offense rebound as our players stood glued to the ground.  The Bulls will be replacing below average rebounders in P.J. Brown and Malik Allen.  Brown, Allen. and Sweetney had a combined 13.4 rebound rate.  Smith, Thomas, and Noah will each have a rebound rate of at least 15.0 and be above-average rebounders.  If Sefolosha is able to play more minutes, he'll help in this area as well.  Rebounding was the one area he clearly excelled at during his rookie season, and his rebound rate nearly doubles that of Hinrich, Gordon, or Duhon.  Improving in this area is especially important if the Bulls have to play Cleveland in the playoffs as the Cavs are both offensively and defensively dependent on their rebounding advantage.

Finishing inside better, taking better care of the ball, and rebounding better are the three areas where the Bulls should and need to improve this season.  Replacing the trio of Brown, Allen, and Sweetney with better more athletic players is a clear and often overlooked improvement.  I was surprised that John Hollinger didn't get past the low post scoring issue enough to notice the impact of the change in frontcourt personnel.  Improvement in these areas will not only help the Bulls finish better than 20th in offensive efficiency, but will help the defense be even better as well.  For the 1st time in Skiles's tenure, all of his frontcourt players will have the necessary physical ability to trap and recover in the Bulls' defensive system.  That combined with improved defensive rebounding and better offense creates a real opportunity for significant improvement in the league's best defense.  There are clear opportunities to increase the team's point differential.  By how much will depend on the improvement of the individual players.

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What will help with the rebounding is . . .
Fewer small lineups.  With Smith, Noah, and Thomas, there's no reason Nocioni needs to see so many minutes at the 4 (except for the fact that he just signed a big contract, which is what scares me).

by Big D on Oct 4, 2007 6:54 PM CDT   0 recs

Sweet analysis
Assuming your answer will predict some improvement along all these dimensions, what do you predict the Bulls' point differential will be at the end of this season?

by paxson43 on Oct 4, 2007 6:59 PM CDT   0 recs

I did some of the math, but there's so many moving
parts, I don't feel confident about predictions without seeing Smith or Noah play in a Bulls uniform at all.  I want to be objective here.  Each additional point in point differential is worth about 2.4 additional wins.

Based on last year, replacing Allen, Sweetney, and Brown should increase the point differential by 1.5 points.  I'm not sure I want to predict a 58+ win season though.  How much better is the rest of the Eastern conference better?  That plays a role.  Do Smith and Wallace decline as expected?

I'm cautiously optimistic that the Bulls will have at least 6.5 to 7 point differential next seaon, which puts them somewhere between 58-60 expected wins.  The team doesn't need everything to go right to get to that level, but they do need Hinrich, Gordon, and Deng to stay healthy.    

by Scotter on Oct 5, 2007 11:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

chemistry after 1/01/07
I decidedly will not do the math, but I think the Bulls point differential from after the first of the year (or choose whichever date you want) is a better indication of what the team can do.  There was a lot of turnover last year that affected team chemistry, not to mention the Duhon-Gordon starting slot question.  That was reflected in the terrible start. This year there really is only one new guy who will be getting significant minutes, Smith, and another who will potentially getting significant minutes, Noah.  Not to mention Ty and Sef are a year into the system.    

by GWKD on Oct 5, 2007 2:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Interesting thought,
and I can never seem to pass up a math problem without wanting to know the answer, so:

From 1/1 through the close of the regular season, the overall point differential for the Bulls was 4.86 (assuming I can add, which isn't a given on a Friday afternoon).  The point differential represents an average loss margin of 8.24 and an average won margin of 14.03.  Their actual record was 30-21.  Using an expected wins formula based on point differential (because I didn't add up up points for and against the first time, so the "usual" formula is out), the record should have been roughly 38-13.

If you are interested in the rough distribution of points margin for wins and losses over that period:

         1-5  6-10  11-15  16-20  21+

Wins      7      6       6        4       7

Losses    9      6       5        0       1

"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Oct 5, 2007 2:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thank you God!
Sweets has left the building! I love Noah just by his quotes. He brings so much personality to this team. Now I have to wait and see how he plays but I might have a new favorite Bull. Noah,Thomas and Wallace need to be the nasty big brothers against teams like the Pistons.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Oct 5, 2007 1:28 AM CDT   0 recs

More donuts for the rest of us.

Too easy, sorry....

Get that out of Tyrus' House!!!!

by cubbybear on Oct 5, 2007 2:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice analysis, sbulls
I appreciate the effort you put into your diaries, which usually provide an insightful, fresh take on things.
Score. Or do not score. There is no clutch.

by preverbal on Oct 5, 2007 9:35 AM CDT   0 recs

The big problem
at least offensively, is that you will always probably have either Wallace (no finishing at all) or Noc (a jumpshooter) on the floor.  The best offensive team will probably be Tyrus and Joe Smith, at least offensively, since they will be effective close in.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Oct 5, 2007 10:10 AM CDT   0 recs

Noc is a jumpshooter
but he's an accurate one, at least.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 5, 2007 10:27 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He shot 50.7% on 2 point
jumpshots last year.  

by Scotter on Oct 5, 2007 11:00 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah, but...
a jumpshooting Noc is redundant with a jumpshooting Deng.  Efficiency-wise, nothing is better (or higher percentage) than a dunk, which Tyrus should provide and Joe Smith will provide more than Wallace.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Oct 5, 2007 12:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You don't have to convince me that Tyrus
should play and that his dunks are meaningful.  Noc has his issues, but they're not on the offensive end.  There's a reason he led the Bulls in TS% until he got hurt.  His jumpshooting includes 3-pointers unlike Deng's, and provides easier access to the lane for Deng so Deng takes less jumpshots.  Obviously Smith is better than Wallace, but Wallace still had a higher FG% than Smith last year and doesn't take shots away from the far more efficient players.  It's an upgrade, but unless Smith's performance rebounds, it's not a huge upgrade.  

I could understand the argument that defensively the Bulls aren't going to be able to get away with playing Noc and Thomas at the 4 and the 5 very ofeten.  So Thomas and Smith is a good offensive duo that can survive defensively.

by Scotter on Oct 5, 2007 12:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I was mostly talking about efficiency
when you have Noc at the 4 shooting jumpers, the Bulls are going to have a hard time getting offensive rebounds.  When you have Wallace on the block, you automatically have an extra help defender against penetration, which leads to more jumpshots.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Oct 5, 2007 1:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's an interesting point.
My initial thought is that Bulls usually use Wallace as a screener away from the lane so I don't think it effects penetration that much.  And Noc leads to Deng to taking less jumpshots.  But, the lack of offensive rebounding is a clear issue.  I'm not sure if it out weighs Noc's shooting advantage.  It might, but I have my doubts.

by Scotter on Oct 5, 2007 1:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you can't pick and roll effectively with Wallace
because he can't do anything with the ball more than 5 feet from the basket.  And last year Deng didn't drive to the hole much if at all.  He made some cuts, but he wasn't taking anybody off of the dribble, which is what needs to happen if you spread the floor with 4 jumpshooters.  A lot of that had to do with Wallace being the most likely center in the game and his offensive ineptitude.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Oct 5, 2007 2:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I doubt it was effective, but Skiles
stuck Wallace in that role an awful lot.  Wallace was usually the big setting the pick at the top of the 3 point line.  When the pick is set out that far, it doesn't matter as much whether it is Joe Smith or Ben Wallace neither one's a threat to score out there.  I'm not saying that Wallace isn't inept, just that it doesn't matter as much in this case.  But, having to stick Wallace out there does hurt the offensive rebounding.

by Scotter on Oct 5, 2007 2:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The breakdown is solid
But I'm quite skeptical on Ben Wallace shooting over 50%

by Option27 on Oct 5, 2007 10:19 AM CDT   0 recs

I am too
It's an unlikely possibility.

by Scotter on Oct 5, 2007 10:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hollinger
You're right, it's interesting that Holly couldn't see the significance of their frontcourt improvement. Especially since he emphasized in many of his team previews that one way for a team to improve is by merely replacing terrible players with average ones. However maybe that means more to terrible teams.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 5, 2007 10:55 AM CDT   0 recs

Thanks sbulls
I feel like so many writers are just too lazy to develop a new take on things.  Good to hear some in depth analysis.  I'm hoping that Wallace will play fewer minutes this season, which would mean a player in the game with a better ability to finish around the rim (hopefully).  The ability to play bigger lineups should help our rebounding.  I want to see the team take it to another level defensively and I believe they can.

by stevekerrsfloppyhair on Oct 5, 2007 11:05 AM CDT   0 recs

Another great point
was the huge difference in rebounding that Thabo brings over Duhon. It immediately gives him an edge off the bench, as long as he's not completely inept offensively during that same stint.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 5, 2007 11:09 AM CDT   0 recs

Great Diary
Several points here that could each be their own thread yet you relate them.
Obviously, for most Bulls fans, attacking the "No Low-Post Scorer" argument is the tasty nugget here.  There are plenty of teams that don't have a traditional low-post scorer and nobody is going to convince me that getting rid of Eddy was a bad thing.  It also speaks to the larger issue when we talk about the Bulls offseason moves. ...i.e., they should have a large impact on the frontcourt.  We added height, fitness and energy. ...and alway seem to have lost is weight (an argument could be made for experience but Noah's a 'winner' that's played in the 'championship atmosphere').  
Hopefully, Dwyer picks up this theme as I know he's A) on the Bulls bandwagon and B) a reader.
"...Keeping 'SlowHand' alive since aught-five"

by CookDing on Oct 5, 2007 1:10 PM CDT   0 recs

Great diary
Quantitative addition by subtraction.

Only problem I have is with Hollinger's translation of point differential to wins.  Here's my problem:
Bulls go up 14 with 6 minutes left.  Our players pile it on because we think they can come back, our PD goes through the roof.  Other team pulls starters, and our scrubs come in, and our scrubs and their scrubs are equally mediocre, our PD is about the same.

Does the difference between winning by 30 and winning by 10 mean something about the strength of the team in all cases?  I would argue that it doesn't, and that the point differential is differentially affected by big losses and big wins, which in some cases have little to do with the team's relative strength.

Get that out of Tyrus' House!!!!

by cubbybear on Oct 5, 2007 1:52 PM CDT   0 recs

It's not just Hollinger
It's the entire statistical community across sports.  With a large enough sample size, most of that balances itself out.  That situation also says something about the quality of a team's scrubs.  There's always at least three of the top ten players on the floor.  Over a large sample size, those blowouts are meaningful.

Hollinger goes into this a fair bit in his free Spurs season preview on ESPN.

by Scotter on Oct 5, 2007 2:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think the bulls are a little different
in that they are always playing as hard as they can.  Even in blowouts, the scrubs know that if they don't execute and play the right way, Skiles will pull them.  And you never see the bulls let up when they are down.  I think that fact inflates the bulls PD a little bit.  They've won fewer games recently than their PD would indicate.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Oct 5, 2007 2:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I accept some of that, but
consider that to amount to under performing expected wins by about 2 games, not 6.  If the Bulls are expected to win 60, I'd probably predict 58 actual wins.  underperforming expected wins by 6 games has a lot more to do with luck than anything else.

by Scotter on Oct 5, 2007 4:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Are we looking at the same stats?
I'd say you have it backwards.  Deviating by a couple games is unlucky, underperforming by 6 games is a big deviation that cries out for explanation.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Oct 5, 2007 11:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Gordon makes 3 or 4 of his end of game shots
and the results are totally different.  Whether the last shot of a game goes in or not even with the most "clutch player" is still pretty much a coin flip in terms of probability.  

I agree there a reasons why the Bulls may under perfom their expected wins to a degree, but it mostly has to do with those end of game coin flips.  The probability of a coin flip is always 50/50, but that doesn't stop tails from coming up five times in a row.  The Spurs for example tend to under perform expected wins.  Some of that can be attributed to style of play, but in 05/06 they out performed expected wins by 2 games.  Last year, they under performed by six games.  Did losing Nesterovic change their ability to win close games?  Or was it mostly some bad end of game luck?  

by Scotter on Oct 6, 2007 12:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What are the odds
of getting one head in 8 flips?  I don't understand how you guys can believe in luck but hate calling someone "clutch."
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Oct 6, 2007 12:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreeing & excited, but still concerned.
Hollinger talked up point differential several times last year, when praising the Bulls in fact. He probably just doesn't consider Noah & Smith as big enough front-line improvements--especially to make the team championship caliber.

Great analysis though. But I don't think it tears down the "could use post-scoring" criticism completely. I know we're sick of the critics (Charles Barkely, virtually every preseason prognosticator) giving us that refrain, but they have a point. They're saying the Bulls sorely need inside scoring to balance their outside game. You're saying, among other things, that the team should improve its shooting percentage around the basket, and that it'd be nice if one of the bigs had a jump hook. Is that dramatically different?

I guess it's a good rejoinder to those who think the only way the team can improve was to get someone like Gasol. But I hope Pax doesn't give up searching. Utah had a decent point differential last year and Sloan gets his guys to "play the right way." But having someone like Boozer didn't hurt.

by T Maple on Oct 5, 2007 9:50 PM CDT   0 recs

but maybe Skiles is echoing the optimism
about their post woes improving:  
Asked if forward Luol Deng is the Bulls' best post-up scoring option, Scott Skiles refused to hand over the title.

"Tyrus (Thomas) is improving down there," Skiles said. "Joakim (Noah) has got kind of a clever post game. Thabo (Sefolosha) has a pretty good post-up game. I'd like to take a good look at everybody."

by T Maple on Oct 6, 2007 12:13 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You beat me to posting the article.
Personally I like the quote from Skiles that post scoring wasn't the be-all and end-all.

by Scotter on Oct 6, 2007 12:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's alot of good stuff to respond to
I agree post scoring would be nice.  But it's not such a significant issue that it can't be addressed internally. It's not a more significant problem than a team's tallest players unable to make even 1/2 their inside shots.  Post scoring is too narrow a solution to the Bulls inability to break up scoring droughts when the jump shots aren't falling and penetration is caught off.

The broader solution to that problem is the ability to isolate and exploit mismatches.  Post scoring is one piece to that solution, and it rests mostly on Deng's shoulders.  He needs to be able to at least exploit size mismatches.  The other over looked solution is having a PF or a C who can face up and drive by slower defenders.  That's Thomas's job.  Even without a jumpshot, his FT rate is indicative of his ability to blow by defenders. He obviously needs to be smarter about when to drive and improve his ability to finish layups, but the physical ability is clearly there.  This is a role Noah may also be able to fill as well, especially if he's playing center given his physical attributes.  The ability to isolate and exploit is critical for the Bulls can be developed internally.  The offense doesn't need to revolve around isolations, but it needs to be part of the package.  

Tyrus and Noah having a jump hook doesn't mean they will be able to score in the post.  Shooting a jumphook after catching the ball in the paint off penetration or an offensive rebound is significantly different than gaining post position and shooting it with a defender on your back.  One example of this is that Deng can do the former well right now, but not the latter.  Tyrus and Noah need to be able to do the former, but the latter isn't nearly as important given their physical attributes.

It's interesting that you highlight Boozer, because he's a player that works for my argument.  Boozer scores a ton inside, but he doesn't post up very often.  He gets inside by moving without the ball, not posting up.  He's a bigger stronger version of Luol Deng.  That's the type of inside scoring the Bulls can get without posting up if their bigs can actually put the ball in the basket when they catch it inside.

This just posted K.C. Johnson article actually addresses several of my arguments.
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-071005bullsbits,1,2451586.story?c oll=cs-bulls-headlines

by Scotter on Oct 6, 2007 12:32 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow, now that's good timing.
Sure you don't work for the Bulls? You're K.C. aren't you? ;)

by T Maple on Oct 6, 2007 11:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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