Squeezing out a link dump
- First off, some strange ideas from Tuesday's Sun-Times:
the Bulls should showcase a new-look backcourt at times that has 6-9 Luol Deng playing the two-guard and Ben Gordon getting even more minutes playing point.
''We feel like Lu's ball-handling has improved to the point that he's close to being ready to play a few minutes at the two [shooting guard],'' Skiles said. ''He can guard twos. That would allow us to put a big lineup on the floor. Ben Gordon, each year, he's got a few more point-guard minutes. Each year he's been a little bit better. So having him at the point guard spot for parts of the game is a very viable option for us.''
With Thabo Sefolosha and Chris Duhon also in the backcourt mix, Skiles will watch training camp, which begins with two practices today, to see which players earn the extra minutes behind Kirk Hinrich and Gordon.
''There's a battle for backup backcourt minutes, there's no question about it,'' Skiles said. ''But, other than just a couple minor things like that, the good thing is we feel like we have to tinker a whole lot or experiment this year. Hopefully, that will be the case.''
On the one hand, I'm liking the possibility that Skiles is looking to find more ways for his best players to stay on the court. However, I saw Luol as one of the potential post-up options for this team in the future, not moving his game farther away from the basket. And from what I remember it's not like his 3-point shooting showed improvement while playing internationally this summer (even with the shortened line). Thank You Isiah has more.
- SBNation has a new NBA blog just in time for training camp: Third Quarter Collapse, blogging the Orlando Magic. See, this place is like Pax, drafting winners. Or something like that.
- And speaking of new blogs, thanks to commenter Sue, who (between cutting out magazine ads depicting Kirk Hinrich) noticed that the Trib is running a Bulls/NBA blog this season. Right now it's just (the excellent) beat writer K.C. Johnson, but there's talk of 'we'. So unless K.C. is using the over-played royal 'we' of sportsblogging, might we be seeing posts from Sam Smith? I know he hates blogs, but he also once remarked at getting his material squeezed last winter due to Bears coverage in the Trib's sports section. Sam...the internet has a limitless capacity for trade speculation....think about it...
- A former Bulls draftee had his number retired. In Spain. I'm sure that's they way Krause always envisioned it. (at least before pawning off those valuable rights).
- Brandon Roy got hurt in the Blazers' first practice. He also played only 57 games last season. And he has a growth in his heel that will only go away with (yet undone) surgery. It's only a year so I won't do the draft hindsight game. But, as I recall, one of the knocks on him coming out was that he was potentially injury-prone. Sure, his skillset would've likely solved the Bulls backcourt rotation, but not from the trainers table.
- And in another reference to Bulls hindsight: Etan Thomas takes 'bleeding heart' a bit to the extreme. Here's hoping the test results are more like Malik Allen and not like Eddy Curry. Remember that these heart scares are not created equal. Just a message to those who vilify Paxson as someone who sadistically tried to keep Eddy from earning a living.
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Coupla Comments...
-It's about time that the Tribune started a Bulls blog on their website. It seems that they lagged a little bit behind last year on this aspect. I hope KC will provide some quality information throughout the season.
-About Brandon Roy. One of Simmons' big complaints last year about the Bulls was not drafting Brandon Roy. As Matt mentions, it is conceivable he could have solved the problem the Bulls had with size in the backcourt, but the backcourt was still a position of strength for the Bulls. They thought they had a long-term solution in Thabo available later (amazing what can happen when you have flexibility with draft picks) and had a bigger problem in the frontcourt they needed to solve and available players with better potential (uh oh, that damn word creeping in). As good as Brandon Roy may become, I think that TT has the opportunity to have a greater impact on the game on both ends of the floor.
-I think the Bulls have another level they can reach as a defensive team. With Noah and the improvement of TT, if the Bulls could field longer, faster lineups with Big Ben, along with better continuity from having a season together, the Bulls could harasss opponents fullcourt. I would like to see the Bulls hold opponents to the lowest field goal % in the league this year. I think with some modest improvements to the offense (which should come from the improvement of the core and the young'uns, the Bulls can fulfill some of these lofty preseason prognostications.
by stevekerrsfloppyhair on
Oct 3, 2007 12:39 AM CDT
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I've got no problems with Deng at the 2,
by Big D on
Oct 3, 2007 1:56 AM CDT
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BG at Pt
by blackmage71 on
Oct 3, 2007 3:31 AM CDT
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I hear you brother.
by cubbybear on
Oct 3, 2007 6:32 PM CDT
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you're right
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Oct 3, 2007 6:42 PM CDT
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Curious Suggestions
I was hoping this is the year Kirk breaks out to fully show the promise that earned him that contract: he'll be stronger and more refreshed, and he'll be smarter and more skilled (and with another year, get more respect from the refs) to avoid foul trouble. If that happens, there's very few minutes I want to see BG at the point.
Does this also suggest less committment to Thabo? There's no reason we should see Lu at guard if you're trying to give Thabo more minutes this year.
I suppose moving Lu down a position allows our glut of forwards more time. Maybe Skiles is really considering how to give us more Ty and Noah.
I don't want to see Billups & Hamilton push our backcourt around--I'd love our guards to demolish them this year. But I'm counting on an improving Thabo for help with that, not Lu.
by T Maple on
Oct 3, 2007 7:00 AM CDT
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McGraw has more on the two guard thing
Now that he's back at Bulls training camp, coach Scott Skiles feels Deng has shown enough improvement to spend a few minutes playing shooting guard this season. A year ago, Skiles treated that suggestion as a ridiculous idea.
"It was a ridiculous notion and now it's not," Skiles said. "Things change. Guys get better. They make progress. Watching him this summer, he made a lot of two guard-type movements and plays. If we can make it work a little bit, it allows us to put a very big lineup on the floor."
So someone was either at the games or watching tape of Lu's play overseas. It's all probably part of a plan to play "tall" ball every once in a while.
England payback has fringe benefits for Deng
I hope they were watching Thaho, too. But not the rap vids on Youtube.
by KT on
Oct 3, 2007 7:54 AM CDT
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Wow!
Count me in with the ones who do not want to see BG play the point on this team. What is the purpose of having BG at the point if Lu plays the 2 spot? Is there a reason why Kirk can't be at the point if Lu plays the 2?
I was hoping Thabo would have improved enough to take over some time at the 2.
Guess we'll get a chance on Tues. to see how they look.
by sue369 on
Oct 3, 2007 9:24 AM CDT
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I'm still mad
Stupid training. Can't leave early, or come in late the next day. I'm still tempted. The Bulls and Bucks playing in my home town when La Crosse is at it's prettiest. Nothing like fall along the Mississippi Bluffs.
I just hope none of them go out drinking. People tend to fall in the Mississippi around there.
by KT on
Oct 3, 2007 9:33 AM CDT
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That would
by sue369 on
Oct 3, 2007 10:55 AM CDT
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Well now I kind of feel bad
by wjb1492 on
Oct 3, 2007 10:20 AM CDT
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I like Lu at the 2 with Kirk at the 1
by chgobr on
Oct 3, 2007 11:41 AM CDT
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wait...kirk's in ads?
i like thabo at the 3....point forward style
by milesgmsu on
Oct 3, 2007 11:54 AM CDT
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No Post-Up
I could see an effective line-up of Smith/Noah=C, Ben=4, TT/Thabo=3, Lu=2 and Ben/Kirk=1. Clearly, it's a specialty line up but, at the very least Matt, it will conceivably reduce the prevalance of our 'Small' lineup.
I think there are times where such a lineup could be a positive. It seems as though Skiles understands that Lu is a Forward that can play out of place on rare occasions. That seems sensible to me so long as noone gets carried away and pretends that Lu can be our M2GWCD&S.
One things for sure: if anything, such a move would make it more likely that Lu could take his game down to the post. Especially, if Tyrus and Ben are on the court.
by CookDing on
Oct 3, 2007 9:52 AM CDT
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that's a good point
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Oct 3, 2007 10:53 AM CDT
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Deng at 2
by bullshooter on
Oct 3, 2007 10:19 AM CDT
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Deng at 2
by bullshooter on
Oct 3, 2007 10:20 AM CDT
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not very logical
by hscs on
Oct 3, 2007 10:28 AM CDT
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I'd envisaged it as more of a running team
by bullshooter on
Oct 3, 2007 10:51 AM CDT
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I love this
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on
Oct 3, 2007 10:24 AM CDT
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jerry krause
mwahahahaha
by milesgmsu on
Oct 3, 2007 11:52 AM CDT
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Give BG the rock
I personally think that BG makes a better point guard than Kirk for the above reasons (Kirk as trade bait?)... although I hope they sign BG to an extension, not doing so may push the Bulls to use him more creatively while motivating him to shoot the lights out (and win the finals)
by Zac23 on
Oct 3, 2007 1:33 PM CDT
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He didn't play the point at UConn, either.
by bullshooter on
Oct 3, 2007 2:07 PM CDT
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Now Hey....
Unfortunately though, Ben also tends to go in funks where he'll get 2-3 horrible turnovers in a row.....
I will say that each year it seems Gordon's ball handling skills have improved tremendously. I mean he was AWFUL in that regard as a rookie. He still makes the mistakes, but given his rep as a hard worker in the offseason and his strides in the ball handling dept, I would like to see BG in at PG for 10 MPG--allowing Kirk a rest and giving us time to try a BG-Deng-Noc, BG-Thabo-Deng, BG-Deng-Thomas set of lineups. I'd like to see Thomas become more of an explosive SF in time, but of course he needs a lot of help to get there (he might have more athleticism than anyone in the field including James--but he hardly has their all around bball IQ or skills).
by majoyenrac on
Oct 3, 2007 3:48 PM CDT
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I just don't
by sue369 on
Oct 3, 2007 3:57 PM CDT
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We'll see
The few times last year where Ben played PG and stayed focused, the offense did actually look pretty fluid.
The problem was also that Ben would decide after making one or two solid plays to get all fancy and then he'd quickly wrack up 2 or 3 turnovers that would cause him to be ineffective....that to me is a learning curve, and something I hope by watching tape and working at his game he can correct......the concern here of course is if Ben doesn't get his extension before the season he might try to be more flashy than he needs to be. For every 1 or 2 awesome flashy pg-ish play he makes, he'll make .5 god awful turnovers.
by majoyenrac on
Oct 3, 2007 4:00 PM CDT
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The 2008 NBA Finals, 15 years after John
by exult463 on
Oct 3, 2007 4:52 PM CDT
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"has to pass the ball"
by hscs on
Oct 3, 2007 5:01 PM CDT
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Why can't he pass to the player playing
As long as he's not passing to Ben Wallace for a 3 pointer, I'm good with whoever takes that shot.
by wjb1492 on
Oct 3, 2007 9:25 PM CDT
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Not to be negative
by bullshooter on
Oct 3, 2007 11:14 PM CDT
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I like how
by hscs on
Oct 4, 2007 8:53 AM CDT
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how does +/- have anything to do with clutch?
by bullshooter on
Oct 7, 2007 10:28 AM CDT
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I am fairly certain that is just the standard
But you should invite Sam the Sham to post here.
by 1958ChiTown on
Oct 3, 2007 5:03 PM CDT
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Less Duhon
by bigballa10 on
Oct 3, 2007 6:54 PM CDT
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agreed
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Oct 3, 2007 6:56 PM CDT
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Now that's hilarious
I actually could see the reasonings behind trading JR Smith, but I don't get why we couldn't wait for fear of losing Griffin in free agency. By the second week of the season, I already forgot he was on our team.
by majoyenrac on
Oct 3, 2007 11:00 PM CDT
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yeah
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Oct 4, 2007 12:04 AM CDT
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Those 3 years of incedible leadership and
by Scotter on
Oct 4, 2007 11:12 AM CDT
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MVB? er. W?
by CookDing on
Oct 4, 2007 12:54 PM CDT
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So quick to forget the master.
by Rankdog on
Oct 5, 2007 9:36 AM CDT
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