2008 Trade Deadline(2pm CST) thread
::crickets::
Chris Duhon's expiring salary also could attract last-minute interest.
oh.
One thing's for certain: whether or not starting last night's overtime with Duhon/Gordon/Hinrich/Smith/Wallace, and following with Duhon/Gordon/Hinrich/Nocioni/Wallace(!) was a case of 'showcasing' or not (it wasn't), that rationalization is out the window from now on.
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at least....
by Lt.Dan on Feb 21, 2008 8:35 AM CST 0 recs
prediction
BaBLittleAchiever234evah: Paxton traded Duhon for nuthing! He could start on alot uv teamz! This is just the sam thing he did to Crawford and Jr. Smirth.
(a shame this stands for a positive attitude.)
by hscs on Feb 21, 2008 9:03 AM CST 0 recs
I like the name mis-spelling
by KT on
Feb 21, 2008 9:50 AM CST
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duhon...
by Lt.Dan on Feb 21, 2008 9:06 AM CST 0 recs
What I hope for post-deadline
By the way, Windhorst is hinting that big things are about to go down in Cleveland. (h/t: FanHouse)
by paxson43 on Feb 21, 2008 9:12 AM CST 0 recs
Couple things
PSS Did anyone see Pau Gasol last night or that guy Kobe Bryant. Man to think we MIGHT/COULDVE/SHOULDVE/WOULDVE have had either of those guys on our team.
by Bulls4Ever on Feb 21, 2008 9:31 AM CST 0 recs
woah
by hscs on
Feb 21, 2008 9:32 AM CST
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Where are those mean boys
Can we revive the Nocioni for Williams talk? I know it would scramble our guard picture even more than it already is, but it's only scrambled because nobody's good enough to absolutely stand out from the crowd. Last night's game showed that even a near-rookie-but-gifted ball handler/passer can dominate the offensive game flow.
by eGirl on Feb 21, 2008 9:46 AM CST 0 recs
Please
by RogersPark Kris on
Feb 21, 2008 10:01 AM CST
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The most obvious deficiency
by eGirl on
Feb 21, 2008 10:26 AM CST
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I like it better everyday
At least Williams is under contract and gives the Bulls reason enough not to re-sign Duhon
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Feb 21, 2008 10:02 AM CST
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KD had a great mini-rant about Noc
by Mike C on
Feb 21, 2008 10:31 AM CST
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Every game I watch I get more convinced that Noc
The dude's an undersized four. Or rather, he's an undersized four defensively, and an underskilled three offensively. I think he could be a valueable player off the bench, as long as we have a coach with the mind to utilize him effectively. The combination of Boylan and injuries have not served him well.
by Freethefro on
Feb 21, 2008 10:43 AM CST
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On a recent telecast,
by eGirl on
Feb 21, 2008 11:00 AM CST
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I agree with JVG's philosophy on that
4 more years(on the contract)!
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Feb 21, 2008 11:04 AM CST
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As much as the Bulls get killed by dribble
by RogersPark Kris on
Feb 21, 2008 11:03 AM CST
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if we could trade Noc for Marcus Williams
by Freethefro on
Feb 21, 2008 10:18 AM CST
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I'm tired of all the Noc hate
Nocioni's a solid player and one of the few who constantly tries to do something on this lackluster team. That says enough for me. Save Chapu!
If the rest of this team wasn't so inept, we would likely value Noc more....
I would be pissed if we got rid of Nocioni for another hack player who doesn't know how to play under pressure.....Noc is the only Bull who has any fire to him at all, the rest of the guys (Even Gordon) go through moments of complete ineptness.
Noc has his bad shooting nights, and the occasional dumb turnover or bad defensive set, but he more than makes up for it.
The Noc hate here is ridiculous. He's not a star, but then again he's hardly paid as a star. He's a solid 6th man and paid as such (maybe marginally too high, but not materially too high). He's still a starter on plenty of ball clubs too, but is effect in bursts off the bench.
I mean the guy avg's almost 22 pts in 40 minutes. He's been in a bit of a shooting slump, but he'll get over it, and has played better than avg more than he's had bad games.
by majoyenrac on
Feb 21, 2008 12:30 PM CST
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base year bad luck
My only issue with Noc's contract is the length. I like a max of 4 years for bench player contracts. Beyond that and you're getting yourself into trouble.
by NBA Observer on
Feb 21, 2008 12:41 PM CST
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I agree
Noc's contract is bad in the length and it's also bad because of our almost inconceivable struggles this year (making Noc, someone who could have been a trading chip when we were bad, into an untradable asset this year when we needed to make a big trade since he's got the BYC)....If this team performed like or close to expectations (basically if we were a shade over .500, most would be happy with Noc, that's all I'm saying....
He just stands out because he would be tradable, but isn't due to timing.
Thankfully we made a splash yesterday, I love hearing all the talk that Big Ben's going to be a difference maker and now puts Cleveland in the mix for the ECF......Gooden's been better than Ben this year, and while Hughes is a bad contract, who knows he could be good again in a different offensive set playing without a similarly styled (though far more skilled) James....
I like the trade for the Bulls.....it at least starts pointing us to the future. Having 2 more years of Ben's declining skills and even less motivation, would really have put us in the cellar.
by majoyenrac on
Feb 22, 2008 10:06 AM CST
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I'd love for four players to be traded...
by tyger1147 on Feb 21, 2008 10:19 AM CST 0 recs
That OT last night
by Mike C on Feb 21, 2008 10:33 AM CST 0 recs
This is typically
The most exciting read so far has been . . .
by Option27 on Feb 21, 2008 10:37 AM CST 0 recs
I'd take
I think Joe is a better player than Jason--because all Jason can do is shoot, but he's a lights out shooter).
I would make this trade though just because it would be interesting for the Bulls to actually have 2 real shooters on the team, 2 offensive minded wings for once in Kapono and Gordon.
Jason would come off the bench, and free up time for Tyrus.
I agree with everyone's post that that OT was hard to watch yesterday. The refs didn't help matters with their one sided ticky-tackness, but at the same time the Bulls looked worse than even their record would indicate.....
by majoyenrac on
Feb 21, 2008 12:34 PM CST
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Kapono is a defensive liability
I think we can do better than Kapono.
by NBA Observer on
Feb 21, 2008 12:44 PM CST
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I'm checking like you guys - nothing so far
by chgobr on Feb 21, 2008 10:52 AM CST 0 recs
in other news...
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 10:56 AM CST
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A deal was attempted
by Freethefro on
Feb 21, 2008 11:01 AM CST
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ha-ha
by eGirl on
Feb 21, 2008 11:02 AM CST
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Wallace Trade
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/ian_thomsen/02/21/deadline.notes/index.html?eref=T1
I think I'd actually do this trade to get out from underneath his contract, and to get Noah/Thomas/Gray more PT. I don't know if the Magic would be willing to take the hit financially, but it seems like they're serious about making a run and want some help for Howard (Bosh did torch them for 40 last night and Van Gundy ripped Howard in the press again). I'd even take the 1st rounder out if the Magic balked.
Bulls:
Magic 2008 1st Rounder
Garrity
Foyle
Dooling
Arroyo
Augustine
Magic:
Wallace
Nichols
by FPax on Feb 21, 2008 11:03 AM CST 0 recs
I'd do this...
Hell, if they want HasBen, make the deal.
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 11:10 AM CST
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What's interesting
Wonder bout what?
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 11:12 AM CST
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I think he meant in general
by Freethefro on
Feb 21, 2008 11:13 AM CST
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I would do this too
Keyon Dooling also can be a flashy, Pargo-esque player without the jacking up all the shots.
I think we'd have to remove the Magic 1st rounder, we easily could have gotten that and more before this season, but we're already fetching a lot for Big Ben considering his production this year....
I don't know if I pull the trigger if I'm the Magic though.....they might want Duhon, who while I bashed above, Duhon might fit their team better as he's more consistent than Arroyo, and that's something they need with their 3 bigs (Howard, Lewis, and Turkaglu).
by majoyenrac on
Feb 21, 2008 12:38 PM CST
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Well played
by paxson43 on
Feb 21, 2008 11:39 AM CST
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Anything to get rid of Wallace
by Jobu on
Feb 21, 2008 11:42 AM CST
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Hey--why do you say that?
Zac, I'm sorry we've already disagreed on a couple of things. Don't take it personally.
by eGirl on
Feb 21, 2008 12:30 PM CST
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while I would love
Let's all face it...this is our team for the rest of the season, like it (few do) or not (most don't).
by ScottieCartwright on Feb 21, 2008 11:48 AM CST 0 recs
Seriously, though..
by tyger1147 on Feb 21, 2008 11:51 AM CST 0 recs
from the ESPN chat
"Michael East Providence, RI: I feel that the Chicago Bulls need a big man for a low post player. What are the chances that the Chicago Bulls will make a trade today for get that type of player.
Chad Ford: (1:05 PM ET ) After another bad loss last night ... you have to wonder what Paxson is thinking? They have assets, but seem to be paralyzed in making a move. Maybe he feels it's best to let this season play out and then fix things in the summer. So no ... I don't think the Bulls are dealing."
Damn.
by Lt.Dan on Feb 21, 2008 12:11 PM CST 0 recs
Please Pax, Please
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Ryan, Chicago: Please tell me Ben Wallace is on the move
Chad Ford: (1:24 PM ET ) Maybe ... call was about Ben Wallace in a possible deal with the Cavs. I've got to stress that it was from what I'd call a third party source ... not someone directly involved in the negotiations. So ... take it with a grain of salt ... but interesting ...
by FPax on
Feb 21, 2008 12:26 PM CST
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Oh shit!
Ryan, Chicago: Please tell me Ben Wallace is on the move
Chad Ford: (1:24 PM ET ) Maybe ... call was about Ben Wallace in a possible deal with the Cavs. I've got to stress that it was from what I'd call a third party source ... not someone directly involved in the negotiations. So ... take it with a grain of salt ... but interesting ...
by Option27 on
Feb 21, 2008 12:26 PM CST
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getting my hopes up...
Eric (Tampa): Chad...Do you see the Nets making another move? Heard anything?
Chad Ford: (1:19 PM ET ) There was some talk last night about a potential deal for Nene that would include the expiring contracts of Magloire, Bostjan Nachbar and Darrell Armstrong ... but the word this morning is that those talks have cooled significantly. I'm not sure why you risk it with Nene right now. He's been diagnosed with testicular cancer and he has 4 years, $43 million left on his deal.
Chad Ford: (1:19 PM ET ) Hold on a second ... have to take this call on a possible trade ...
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Ryan, Chicago: Please tell me Ben Wallace is on the move
Chad Ford: (1:24 PM ET ) Maybe ... call was about Ben Wallace in a possible deal with the Cavs. I've got to stress that it was from what I'd call a third party source ... not someone directly involved in the negotiations. So ... take it with a grain of salt ... but interesting ...
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 12:26 PM CST
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interesting
Chad Ford: (1:24 PM ET ) Maybe ... call was about Ben Wallace in a possible deal with the Cavs. I've got to stress that it was from what I'd call a third party source ... not someone directly involved in the negotiations. So ... take it with a grain of salt ... but interesting ...
by tyrus4prez on Feb 21, 2008 12:26 PM CST 0 recs
He added more..
by SRQman on
Feb 21, 2008 12:27 PM CST
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the Bulls would get...
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 12:28 PM CST
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in return
by tyrus4prez on
Feb 21, 2008 12:28 PM CST
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addition
How quickly can Pax say yes?
by BNeL21 on
Feb 21, 2008 12:29 PM CST
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Wow I'm slow.
by BNeL21 on
Feb 21, 2008 12:30 PM CST
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HAHAHA!
by Option27 on Feb 21, 2008 12:27 PM CST 0 recs
Perfect Wallace trade
Knicks get Ben Wallace
Heat get Eddy Curry, Fred Jones
I ran it on the NBA trade machine last night and it works. Heat get Eddy Curry, who they for some reason want. Bulls get 2 expiring contracts and David Lee, a promising PF. And the Knicks get Ben Wallace, who they pair with Zach Randolph as the defensive ace.
Someone get Paxson on the phone! This trade makes too much sense.
by danger mouse on Feb 21, 2008 12:28 PM CST 0 recs
The only negativ
by majoyenrac on
Feb 21, 2008 12:41 PM CST
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David Lee is off limits
by NBA Observer on
Feb 21, 2008 12:46 PM CST
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Marion being actively shopped
It looks like he is heading towards Cleveland, but without a doubt we could throw them a better offer.
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/51011/20080221/gms_miami_shopping_marion/
by BG07theDrink on Feb 21, 2008 12:30 PM CST 0 recs
wow...
by Lt.Dan on
Feb 21, 2008 12:32 PM CST
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Maybe the Cavs
by Sports2 on
Feb 21, 2008 1:00 PM CST
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breaking
SportsNation Chad Ford: (1:24 PM ET ) Maybe ... call was about Ben Wallace in a possible deal with the Cavs. I've got to stress that it was from what I'd call a third party source ... not someone directly involved in the negotiations. So ... take it with a grain of salt ... but interesting ...
SportsNation Chad Ford: (1:25 PM ET ) The deal as I heard it ... by the way ... had Drew Gooden, Ira Newble, Shannon Brown and Cederic Simmons coming back to Chicago.
by JSlakov on Feb 21, 2008 12:32 PM CST 0 recs
love it
by tyrus4prez on
Feb 21, 2008 12:35 PM CST
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Re: love it
I would change my login if Pax pulled this one off.
by FPax on
Feb 21, 2008 12:38 PM CST
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If Gooden were coming back
They won't unless they're getting something major back (a pick?, Gordon? etc.). That's my view anyway.
by Sports2 on
Feb 21, 2008 12:50 PM CST
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Lets trade Kirk
by Zac23 on Feb 21, 2008 12:36 PM CST 0 recs
I think Chad Ford's "Phone Calls"
by BNeL21 on Feb 21, 2008 12:39 PM CST 0 recs
I second that!
by BNeL21 on
Feb 21, 2008 12:45 PM CST
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Sam Smith speculates that
by 1958ChiTown on Feb 21, 2008 12:40 PM CST 0 recs

