Open Game Thread #29: Bulls vs Orlando Magic
The feel-good Boylan era keeps going. Or gets destroyed by Dwight Howard. I guess we'll see.
1pm CST start, on WGN. That means we don't even get the brief lucidity in a broadcast where Stacy King craps on Nocioni's shot selection. That's all I have to look forward to nowadays.
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Ya know...
Why isn't Wayne Larrivee banished?
He should be banished from Chicago broadcasting.
Pippen doesn't sound like a guy that likes Ben Wallace's contract in the Sam Smith articles from today.
Pip wants to coach, too
by bleargh on Dec 31, 2007 12:44 PM CST reply actions
that article
by Sambossanova on Dec 31, 2007 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
Matt
My girlfriend is Tyrus Thomas
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
BG needs to get used to coming off of the bench
hungover?
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
Same here.
it's not a holiday
So does this mean if someone goes down on Rush street late tonight they'll run into Du, and Noah and all the game celebrating or drinking away their sorrows?
by KT on Dec 31, 2007 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
Unbelievable.
Too damn early.
any good reason
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 1:26 PM CST reply actions
He's a starter.
Happy New Year to everyone!
I hope Bulls will give a nice present by wining.
So far so good,up by 6.Wallace is active again,Hinrich looks more comfortable playing with
Du.
And Matt,I hope you "girlfriend" will get some PT :-)
oohh Nooooo(c)
sorry
by bullsfaninla on Dec 31, 2007 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
There's two things wrong with the
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 1:38 PM CST reply actions
Good offensive quarter.
Smith is playing well.
That being said, the defensive execution was pretty horrendous.
may he make no mistakes
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
Hit your free throws Duhon!
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 31, 2007 1:43 PM CST reply actions
Um ,yea
Guess who TT is guarding?
When exaclty did
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 31, 2007 1:44 PM CST reply actions
Same sh*t.
Sorry to haro on this, but it
He did it again and it resulted in an open three for Orlando when one of the guards had to rotate over to cover Lewis, who had been abandoned by TT.
Just stay focused, Tyrus.
What it hasn't been
bulls haven't gotten a loose ball call
Thomas needs to shoot
Gordon is hot !
poor Gordon
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
Not to mention,
Dare I say,
Was that the
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 31, 2007 1:54 PM CST reply actions
Matt will be happy to know that
Gee, I am so glad I forgot the game was this afternoon so that I could hear the TV commentary.
wow, the same guys
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
Interesting
fair enough
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
Gordon is on fire.
Deng should be able to
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 31, 2007 2:01 PM CST reply actions
the am1000 haltime show
at least they started the last play with enough
Much better defensive quarter.
They play with much more intensity
i hope you guys stuck at work
coming home and into the game late
- the Bulls are winning
- the Bulls seem to be having fun
- the Bulls bench is outscoring the other bench yet AGAIN today
- BG is playing well (HOW many games in a row now?)
Whatever we may like or dislike about the line ups or the subs, I really can't remember the Bulls looking like this all season for this many games in a row.
As long as they keep winning, I say THANK YOU Jim Boylan.
BG playing it exactly like he should
The question is
Bulls are actually
This has been a good one so far.
Joe Smith's still taking shots.
No Whammies, No Whammies, baby!!!
Ben Gordon is an awesome sixth man.
ok, Gordon's been tricked
At least make a trade for a 'big guard' to play those guaranteed 12 minutes a game.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
it's a shame your not watching this game
I live my life
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
Are you BG's agent?
play best players. more.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
what is the difference
R.I.P
Guard the fucking three point line.
play defense
If the future holds the same
I would like to see TT ease into starting in place of Smith, largely due to TT's energy. I think that would better preserve Joe's health and he does seem to provide pop coming off the bench.
As far as BG and Du - even though BG is more accomplished than Du, it seems to serve the team better with Du starting and BG coming off the bench....right now anyway.
Keep it up gentlemen.
he had a whole season
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
Yep - that's what I meant
But I do think he CAN do it, if the staff works with him and gives him the opportunity.
Sadly, Skiles apparently gave up on that notion and was wasting the guy.
Did I mention that I'm really REALLY glad that Skiles is gone? :-)
If that isn't an offensive foul, I
You can"t just lower your shoulder.
Howard got away with that same
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 31, 2007 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
Yikes
anomaly
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 2:38 PM CST reply actions
heh, gamecast is slow
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
Needless fourth foul, Kirk.
I just didn"t like it because
But you are right, doubling Howard is obviously the plan.
8/18 from 3
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 31, 2007 2:43 PM CST reply actions
God damn it.
And really, guard the three point shooters.
I watched Lewis in Seattle
They really need to worry about him as much if not more than Howard....
Bullshooter
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 2:50 PM CST reply actions
In the first half
it's just tough to see
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
I guess it's a positive
This might be a fun 4th Q to watch....maybe even beat this very solid Magic team.
weren't the bulls up by 7 at the half
Naw....a collapse would be what they're doing
It was only a 9 point swing in the 3rd to keep us within 2....
I guess my point is that they're still in it - even though they COULD still blow it.
I think this is the quarter
This is usually when they blow it against good teams.
If they can pull out a win, the difference will be seen
Wow, 5th foul
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 31, 2007 2:55 PM CST reply actions
And first thing he does is
oh man
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
judging by the comments
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
Quick 3 team fouls on magic
playing back to back
Better shot selection makes for
Noc's thought pattern...
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 31, 2007 3:11 PM CST reply actions
better than previously
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks for the laugh
by GranvilleWaiters on Dec 31, 2007 6:21 PM CST up reply actions
Wallace missing layup :-(
Wallace had an awesome spurt there
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 31, 2007 3:21 PM CST reply actions
That last play
That was how Ben used to be so amazing in Detroit.
isn't it almost worse
Something we have to live with, but it kindof sucks.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
I got dvr in November
by KT on Dec 31, 2007 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
make up call for the Bucks game?
by KT on Dec 31, 2007 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
Up by two.48 sec. left
GOOOOO BULLLSS!
is...
Thats the only part I truly hate about ben Gs
Damn it
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 31, 2007 3:28 PM CST reply actions
So fuckin' sick and tired
Always an ugly Gordon shot!
did he dribble for 20 seconds?
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
all of the
hahaha
The guy's pretty awesome. That said, I'm not in favor of Gordon playing point, but that wasn't a horrible turnover.
I'm tired of BG losing games
This game should have been over in regulation.
And watching that stupid BG foul just now added fuel to the fire
him dribbling the ball for the ENTIRE posession
Why can't he just pass it off?
obviously
yup....(argh)
That's because he doesn't have confidence
by GranvilleWaiters on Dec 31, 2007 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
hopefully they win
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
At the very least
I just hope it turns out to be a WIN
How do you let
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 31, 2007 3:45 PM CST reply actions
that was a great play
thats true, it looked like noc was
by Ibleedbullsred on Dec 31, 2007 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
I say let BG make them THINK he's gonna
but this time -PASS IT OFF and whoever gets the pass - DUNK THE F'IN BALL!!!
problem with that
I'll take Deng TRYING to dunk it
WTF was that BG???!!!
Bulls need to start running end game plays
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 31, 2007 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
Like I said,
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 31, 2007 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
BG is Dr. Jekyll
wow
Bwahahaha!!!
It just blows me away
He wants to be the "go to" guy at the end of the game....but he hasn't turned that corner yet.
I just hope he does....sooner than later.
Booo Yahh, like I said u take the good with the
Ben Gordon made a three!
Talk about a heart breaker
well, my afternoon just opened up.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 3:54 PM CST reply actions
Happy New year everyone
Here's to hoping the "tweeking" continues successfully for 2008 and the Bulls get back on track.
The Bulls are back
back to what
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
Aw, come on, Matt
cut him some slack
I expected them to go to the Finals
For today, they played better than expected, I guess. This better be the only loss on this schedule stint.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
Matt's right
by bullsfaninla on Dec 31, 2007 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
So we should all be miserable all season
deng totally disappeared
by bullsfaninla on Dec 31, 2007 3:55 PM CST reply actions
I believe Deng took
1 one shot?
by bullsfaninla on Dec 31, 2007 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not saying that Deng
If Deng wants to be payed like a $$Money$$ player
by GranvilleWaiters on Dec 31, 2007 6:04 PM CST up reply actions
It's OK Bulls played well
I think they could have won
by bleargh on Dec 31, 2007 3:57 PM CST reply actions
dag, ben wallace didn't even jump on that
I feel like this dancing guy
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 31, 2007 3:58 PM CST reply actions
on a side note,
I guess I don't need to watch the tape.
judging by the groundswell of Boylan love
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
I feel the same way.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
Bulls have been exposed as a team that
They're 22nd in the league against
IMO, it's because they sag off so god damn much, even where I don't think it's necessary.
They also have
In other words....
41 points in the second half.
Wallace played 45 minutes with 2 points
This team needs help.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 4:05 PM CST reply actions
ouch
by Orange Juice on Dec 31, 2007 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
One at a time might not kill us
I have to vent about four horrendous plays:
(2) Last possession in regulation. Gordon has the ball again. He gets Lewis on a switch. He dribbles at the three point line and forces up a three pointer against a much taller player. Predictably, the ball ricochets off the backboard. (BTW, I singled out Gordon because he was the ballhandler on the two fateful plays, but obviously he was excellent the remainder of the game.) The Bulls have to revamp their end of game sets;
(3) Jameer Nelson is a mascara wearing, midget fucking scrub. Allowing him to score twenty plus is a humiliating joke. And you want to know the worst part? He did the same thing to the Bulls LAST year. Unreal. Duhon's defense on the second to last Magic field goal in OT was disgusting. Terrible;
(4) The defense on Turk on the game winning shot was also abominable. I believe the Magic ran the exact same play they ran at the end of regulation. And yet he gets a wide open shot. Who the fuck was supposed to guard him there?
That Nelson layup
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
Um... Du Sux
He was open for the 3... but he is Duhon, making the shot ill advised. (wallace stole the ball at half ct, then dished it to Deng who passed it to an open DUDU in the corner)
by Zac23 on Dec 31, 2007 4:35 PM CST reply actions
what's more important, BlogABullians?
Gordon 'finding himself' as a bench player? Or keeping Duhon out of the starting lineup?
If you believe in both, then a trade is the best option, I suppose.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2007 4:44 PM CST reply actions
I figure BG will be back starting very soon
Gordon coming off the bench isn't the issue
December 31, 2007
Only got
Really wish they could have won but they didn't. Life goes on.
Went to the game
- Thomas and Thabo should play more.
- Duhon should play less.
- Wallace was worth a lack of scoring, but needs to practice layups.
- Nocioni should be banned to shoot within 5 feet.
- Gordon is back to rookie form(is that a good thing?).
- Game was lost on Jameer Nelson's layup, lack of communication.
- Bulls collapsed on drivers more than was warranted. We'll never know whether they would make all of the drives.
- Bulls playing much better since Boylan took over.
Well, it looks like Aldridge
Damn man. 12-14 from the line, is he serious?
Yes, it should.
Utah scored more points
Plus-minus rating is the 82games on court/off court Roland Rating. Aldridge can score, but it's pretty clear he isn't very good at other things, and that's why he's not helping his team.
first of all
second of all, Tyrus Thomas is just as one dimensional as you claim Aldridge is except what the Bulls need more, scoring or rebounding and blocks?
I'm not making this up
It's because +/- measures team performance
Damn slow dial up
Happy New Year fellow blogabullers!!!
1- This was a well played game for both teams.
2- Kirk stays in the game we win. He is playing well. His defense was excellent. He had 10 assists and one turnover. Let's hope we continue to see the upside of his game. The team had 12 turnovers the whole game.
3- Du was awful. He had a chance to ice the game with a wide open three and missed.
4- Ben Gordon was great except for the late turnover. I don't understand it but he is a different player coming off the bench. That last three he was unconscious. Orlando was all over him. He is fearless when taking the big shot. The rest of our guys seem to run away from the ball.
5- Orlando was 11-25 for 3's. If they aren't this hot we win the game despite everything written above
6- I do not know what happened on Nelson's drive. In general I thought our defense was good. Again, if they weren't hitting threes we win easily.
7- Noah was going crazy on the bench rooting for the Bulls. You cannot complain about his energy.
8- Ben Wallace tried but he has so many deficiencies that I keep wishing for Chandler. I need to get over this. He did contain Howard's scoring. He also go a number of key tips resulting in offensive rebounds. BW is a liability in too many areas but when he decides to bring it he does an adequate job of defending.
We are not a championship contender this year but I am not giving up on this team. Ben Gordon has the potential to be amazing. Deng was solid and played good D on Turkoglu. Our glaring weaknesses are as we all know, continue to be, a long, decent 2 guard and an inside presence. This was a game we played well, you felt we were in and easily could have won.
I was also at the game
Dwight Howard went for 17 and 22, so please let me know how Ben did a good job on D. Part of your defensive assignment is to keep your man off the glass and Howard was getting rebounds at will. I understand that Howard is an awesome player, but Wallace did little to stop him from dominating.
On offense, things grind to a complete halt when Wallace gets the ball. He is completely immobile, so a pass to him requires players to come get the ball from him if he does not immediately identify an open player to pass to upon his receipt of the ball. When he is open under the basket, he kicks it out because he is scared to shoot. When he does shoot, he misses.
People have said it before, but the Bulls really do play 4 on 5 on the offensive end. He was 1 of 6, and at least 4 of those shots were completely makable.
In what universe is 2 points on 16% shooting and 12 rebounds in almost 46 minutes acceptable numbers?! Think about this: if Wallace shoots 33% (which is also a bad percentage) the Bulls win!
I understand that people want to justify lighting $15 million a year on fire to feel better about themselves, but the numbers do not lie. I just do not see how the Bulls can win with this guy on the floor. When he wants to play (which is not every night) his defense is good to very good, but rarely exceptional. That defensive effort does not come close to making up for his deficient offense.
On the coaching side, I did not understand why they didn't play Smith more since he was really productive. Similarly, Tyrus came in and had 2 points, 2 boards and a block in 5 and a half minutes. I thought that his performance merited more time. These guys should get minutes at the expense of Wallace as each can contribute points and play at least adequate defense.
Finally, Duhon is garbage and should not be on the floor if he can't hit open looks and free throws.

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