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How to kickstart the Bulls

If it can be done, here's how...

  1. Bench Kirk
  2. Play Thomas and Noah
  3. Don't play Thabo
  4. Fill holes in free agency (now!)

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Trying to be productive for a bit, here's the short-run steps I'd take to right the ship. Give the current lineup one more game. The Bulls defensive effort was there the last two games, but they're still downright awful when it comes to shooting and making decisions.

1. Kirk Hinrich to the bench, Chris Duhon to the starting five. Du hasn't played great by any stretch of the imagination, but he's closer to where he needs to be than Kirk. Duhon is also our best pure PG and in the past he's had success as a starter and success settling the team down and distributing the ball to our scoring threats, who are Gordon and Deng. A bit of PT mixed with a leading role in a turnaround will also increase his trade value. We know he was being shopped this summer, and I think the odds of him being re-signed seem fairly low since we'll likely be forking out quite a lot of cash for Deng and Gordon. Though he's streaky, he's a guy who can hit an open 3, and that's the pairing you want with Gordon, offensively.

The Bulls have been exceedingly patient with Kirk Hinrich and it's time to send a message that if he can't get his act together the Bulls will find someone who can. He might not take it well, but the truth is I don't see how he could play with any less confidence than he is now. His body language, as well as the nonsense he's uttered over the past month (can't wait to get out of Chicago, wimpy 'it has to get better' moping) sucks. His biggest problem seems to be dealing with pressure, and bringing him back to the role he played a lot at Kansas and in his first seasons with the Bulls, playing off the ball, will simplify things for him. Let him get his groove back a bit with Duhon and Gordon initiating the offense more and him taking shots and locking guys down on D. When he gets solid, then expand his role.

I don't think, by the way, this is a completely novel idea. In large part, Kirk played this role with a starting Duhon in past seasons. Du started 30 games last year, 38 the year before and 73 as a rookie. He's a favorite whipping boy for his shooting suckitude, but this is the right move to make.

2. Prepare for success but plan for failure with the young guys up front. By that, I mean Thomas HAS to start and keep plugging at it because we just don't have any other options for success and because the rest of our bigs are too young and/or too skinny. Same with Noah. I just don't think the Bulls can successfully play a Tyrus/Noah lineup for any stretch of time because they'll be pushed around and abused. But we don't have very many good choices here. Smith and Nocioni are quality role players but I don't think we can be successful, even in the short-run unless we put our young guys in a position where we can succeed. As 4s and 5s, Noc and Smith have their moments of goodness, but we'll lose with them playing huge minutes anyway. So we play the young guys, but we surround them with as much veteran presence as we can, and we ask them to do as little as we can to keep them focused on doing that little very well. Duhon's passing will help Thomas a little bit with the starters. He's always been the best at setting up our athletic bigs (in the past) for easy dunks. That's Tyrus' game, and we shoot be able to run the same sort of alley-oops for him that worked to varying degrees with Curry (well) and Chandler (less well because he couldn't catch). Putting him with our strongest guy, Wallace, makes it a little more difficult to abuse his weakness.

Still, we plan for frequent foul trouble, and we have Nocioni and Smith ready to come in and play big minutes.

Noah needs to get on the court, point blank, and we've got minutes to fill up front in any case. So we match him up with Smith and Nocioni as a second unit, two veteran guys who can shoot, and, like Thomas, we hope for the best.

3. I've seen enough of Thabo for a while. Let him play when we need to get one of our 3 best guards a breather, but don't plan for him to play.

That makes a Bulls ideal lineup something like:

1- Duhon 28, Hinrich 20
2- Gordon 36, Hinrich 12
3- Deng 36, Nocioni 12
4- Thomas 20, Smith 16, Nocioni 4
5- Wallace 34, Noah 14

In practice, of course, there are going to be lots of games where our young bigs play like garbage and Noc and Smith play more than 16 minutes apiece. But as a rule I'd give the kids the 1st stab at those minutes because I don't think we're really going to get much success out of a Noc/Smith/Wallace rotation anyway. Likewise, Thabo probably gets on the court for 5 minutes or so just due to the mechanics of needing to give Du/Kirk/Gordon breathers during the course of a game.

4. That's what we do with what we've got. Something else the Bulls got is about $2.9M before we bump the luxury tax threshold. We can offer minimum salary contracts and we can offer a Bi-annual exception ($1.8M) contract. Time to get on the phone and address the team's needs for 1. A guy who can come in and score in a hurry and 2. A guy with real size who can provide some veteran know-how. As it turns out, there are guys available who fit these descriptions.

Earl Boykins fits the first, and would seem to fill up the Jannero Pargo role that was filled so well by Jannero Pargo in past years. Some people will say he's a sideshow, but he doesn't have to be freaking John Stockton that plays great defense or runs the team well 100% of the time. He's a situational player who is essential on a streaky team like this because he can manufacture a basket or two (or three) all by himself to break a slump. That's something this team is dying for.

Dale Davis fits the second, and would give us another option for a big strong guy on the many nights we need another one. Smith is not that guy. Too skinny and not mean enough. Davis is a strong guy who can come in and anchor a defense (on the occasions we're aching for it) and give our freelancing, lighter guys (Wallace, Thomas, Noah) the freedom to do what they do best, which is not play man-to-man defense on a 7' 250+ pounder.

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I'm surprised no one's signed Earl Boykins
I thought he played pretty well last year.  The last thing the Bulls need is another small guard, but at this point I'm not sure what the Bulls have to lose.  At the very least, he should come cheap (seeing as how he's currently unemployed).

by Big D on Nov 25, 2007 3:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Money
He wants more money than any club is willing to offer.

He may get picked up if a team loses a starting point guard that scores.

by NBA Observer on Nov 26, 2007 12:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How can you play BG 36?
He should be sitting right next to Hinrich.  He's worse than Hinrich, especially lately, if that's possible.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 25, 2007 4:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Because you can only change so much
Gordon definitely hasn't played well, but unlike Hinrich, the Bulls don't have anyone I can remotely imagine replacing the scoring he brings to the table, both for himself and for the fact that defenses actually take him seriously, and thus he creates more opportunities for other guys just by being out there.

If Kirk were shooting hot, he'd be the closest replacement we have, but he's even worse off.  And since you can't change everything, you have to just focus on the biggest issue. And that's been PG play on both sides of the ball.  If Kirk comes around playing off the ball more, then maybe you bring him up and set Ben down (if he's still playing awful) but you can't do both at once.

by Sports2 on Nov 25, 2007 5:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He's not scoring
so he brings nothing to the table.  And he can't pass, so double-teaming him is especially effective.  
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 26, 2007 8:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Boykins could help,
but he'd but doing what BGs supposed to do, right? And you want more mins from Duhon??? I read your reasoning, but other than some penetrations, he's not done much to my eyes. Like Noc, to me he's not a player that gets a lot of mins on a quality team. It seems we agree on that one. Have you seen enough of Thabo's rebs and defense? His shot... I know, I know. But if you watch off the ball, his game's improved; valuable. The TOs were what killed me, though.

After the summer, I thought

Hinrich  34  Gordon   34     Deng    37   Thomas   25   Wallace  35
Duhon   7  Sefolasha  21    Nocioni 20     Noah     22    Smith     5

would be about right. As of now, I still think it's imperative to allot > 24mins to TT and 18 mins to Noah and Thabo, at the least. And 20 is too few for Noc, I suppose? How about

Hinrich  34  Gordon    34    Deng    35   Thomas   25    Wallace  33
Duhon   10 Sefolosha 18    Nocioni 24     Noah     18     Smith     9

I noticed Skiles used Thabo at F only today, so maybe he's not gonna be a G? If so, then those mins go to Deng at the 2. Not being a stats guy, I can't prove it, but the Du/Kirk combo seems to have been our worst so far ('cuz of Kirk's FG%?). Gordon has to play 6mins at the point in my "plan". He's done okay at that so far this year IMO, but Boykins would be much better, no doubt. But basically, any plan to get Boykins doesn't coincide w/ more mins for showcasing Du. And even the 4 mins you have allotted for the 3 guard lineup makes it far from ideal for me.

Dale Davis? Maybe. I wouldn't have paid that much for Smith, but he looks okay really. That signing told me Pax and Skiles wanted a more flexible type player than Davis. Right now, nobody here probably cares what Pax and Skiles want. But don't we all want to see TT and the other youth play? They can lose just as well and it leaves hope for the future. I really think they can be all set up playing better BB by year's end with TT and Thabo. I reserve judgement on Noah, but there's always Smith.

Thanks for a thoughtful and provoking topic.

by marionette on Nov 25, 2007 5:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You're Welcome!
A couple of thoughts:
  • My theory on Davis is that he'd actually be helpful to the development of the younger guys, not set them back.  TT and Noah just look physically weak to me, and that's the sort of thing that's gonna take a couple years to solve.  And of course they're young and subject to the usual "young big man foul quota" the NBA subjects most every young big to.  So it only makes sense to pair them up with a big and strong defensive player.  Smith is experienced, but he's more of an offensive guy and seems to struggle with the bigger guys on defense.  So I don't know that he's a very great complement to either of the younger guys, yet.
  • As far as playing the younger guys, like I said, I think we give them room within the rotation to play their way into consistency and more minutes, but I don't see any reason to start doling out entitlement minutes either.  Teaching these guys the right way to play still has to come first. You don't want to slap them down for every mistake, but it's clear that with guys like Thomas even under the best circumstances there are going to be plenty of 5 foul in 10 minute sort of performances. Smith and Nocioni will pick up minutes when that happens.
  • Regarding Duhon, I think he's just been consistently better at setting up his teammates and avoiding TOs than everyone else here over his tenure.  He's the 3rd best guard we have, but the best PG, and right now we need someone to settle things down and direct the team with competence.

by Sports2 on Nov 25, 2007 7:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Boykins
can score, and his defense is about equal to gordon's and slightly less than Kirks.  A minor improvement...

by exult463 on Nov 25, 2007 6:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I watched Boykins play for the Bucks
and was totally  underwhelmed.  There's a reason no one's signed him to play this year.  He's a chucker, and s short chucker at that.

by KT on Nov 25, 2007 6:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Boykins
You're always dissing former Bucks! ;)

And rightly so, but I don't have any high expectations that Boykins is great or anything.  Just a better fit as an "instant offense" guy we can use when we've got one of our unfortunately frequent offensive dry spells.

From what I can tell, his sort of game didn't help the Bucks at all because they were already an offensive team that couldn't play any defense.  We're not that team though, and even though I agree Boykins is hugely flawed, this team is in desperate need of a guy who can come in and stop a run.

by Sports2 on Nov 25, 2007 7:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I do know that team well
If only we could have someone like Michael Redd (and Krause was one of many, many GMs which passed him out.)  That's the kind of player we need, a good offensive player who is learning to play decent team defense.  

by KT on Nov 25, 2007 9:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

BG
I like it when he comes off the bench :)

by gobulls1124 on Nov 25, 2007 6:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Who's the most disappointing Bull?
http://blogs.suntimes.com/fullcourtpress/2007/11/whos_the_most_disappointing_bu.html

These guys are less foregiving than us on Blog a Bull, yet interesting.  This displays some real frustration in Chicago.

by exult463 on Nov 25, 2007 8:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Free agents
Boykins: I don't see how Boykins can help solve our problem of having undersized guards.  His scoring will not make up for the points he will give away on defense.  Earl has to make amazing plays with his hands to be a net wash on production.

Davis: If you're considering Dale Davis, why not just bring in PJ Brown or Webber.  Is Davis that much less expensive?  Why not Michael Sweetney then?

by NBA Observer on Nov 26, 2007 12:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I gotta agree
His theory was ok, but bad examples.  Boykins does nothing for the state of our current roster.

Davis would add a big body...but it would be a big, slow, not-very-agile, aging body

by ScottieCartwright on Nov 26, 2007 2:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Have I been watching the same games?
There seems to be this confidence that Tyrus will be great even when he looks bad...Darius Miles anyone?

by Kemp on Nov 26, 2007 4:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think you could have stopped...
...after reason #1.  Hinrich has been terrible and must be benched.  Don't change anything else yet, just get him off the court for a few games.  Maybe Gordon and Deng would take more responsibility for getting the offense started in that scenario.  But Hinrich is a total liability this season thus far.

by nateroth on Nov 26, 2007 5:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Reluctantly I Concur
Bench Hinrich...gasp...hard to say

During the toronto game, that first quarter, the only one who was really playing differnt was hinrich, and WHAMO...we got a nice lead, and look like our old selves.

All the lame ideas of hinrich not a "pure" pg, or has no talent, or just plains sucks...those thoughts are just ridiculous, however, there hasnt been any real points when those ideas could be proven wrong.

Bench hinrich, make him inactive...do something that will totally give him a twirl, so he will go out and solve this problem. Right now he seems to be playing more like a grossman, and its totally unacceptable.

Teh bulls have seen tapes, theyve had practice sessions, and im sure they have had talk-tos...so if that hasnt worked for my favorite basketball player, then maybe the only thing left is to bench him until he shows his greatness

If benching hinrich will awaken that 2nd All-Defensive team, second coming of john stockton, next steve nash, greatest white american nba basketball player, or any other great title bestowed upon him in his career, then i think benching him is a good idea.

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Nov 27, 2007 4:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Kirk's
play changed around the time that he gave the engagement ring ;)

But, that probably was not seem on the game tape review sessions.

by exult463 on Nov 27, 2007 5:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You noticed it too
Im all for the "concept of love", however, i did start noticing certain changes, and i really hoped that having a wife wouldnt affect hinrich but it might be. More in the sense of not practicing as much as he would want to, or not being focused as much...i mean they tell you to leave the personal problems off the court, but sometimes you cant help it. Or maybe he misses his wife or spent all night talking (or whatever) and loses all his energy...dont get me wrong im happy for the guy, but ehh..if his basketball is gonna be affected, maybe he should call in an early retirement when his contract runs out.
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Nov 28, 2007 12:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you serious?
Kirk and Jill have been together since they were 16. I doubt she has anything to do with his slump. For all we know there may be stuff going on in the locker room we know nothing about. He got benched last night and that may be the best thing to happen to him. He handled it well and hopefully he gets things turned around for him.
Please get this season turned around and play some great basketball.

by sue369 on Nov 28, 2007 6:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Many say
people do change once they get that certificate ;)

Dating and marriage just aren't the same!

by exult463 on Nov 28, 2007 11:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You shouldn't
believe everything you hear. :)
Please get this season turned around and play some great basketball.

by sue369 on Nov 29, 2007 6:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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