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Open Game Thread #9: Bulls at Los Angeles Lakers

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The Bulls looked like their old selves Saturday night, especially Ben Wallace. But I'm not celebrating his complete return, as anytime Tim Thomas starts at power forward you know it's not a very tough rebounding squad.

Luol's out for tonight and a few more. He looked pretty awful in the 2nd half Saturday, so I'd rather see him sit than see him 'grit' it out, as we've all seen how that's playing with Wallace. I guess that Nocioni signing is coming in handy if Luol's out for an extended time, because Thabo has clearly received no credit problems getting that mortgage for Skiles' doghouse. So Noc will be at the 3 and the well-rested (8 minutes last night) Tyrus Thomas will be back starting at the 4.

The Lakers are without Ronny Turiaf, so look for my guy Brian Cook to be chuckin away more than he should. Go Illini! The Lakers bench has actually done a lot of damage this season, and either through ineffectiveness or inactivity, the Bulls have very few reliable options on this supposedly deep squad.

So with Wallace looking ok, and Gordon having a big night, we're all still waiting for Kirk Hinrich to stop being the worst starting point guard in basketball. With no Luol Deng, tonight would be a good time to start. Especially since after a night in L.A., Duhon may have some flu-like symptoms.

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wow...FIRST
Go Bulls....keep up the hard playing...or playing hard.
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 7:19 PM CST reply actions  

I got a feeling
Hinrich for three will be heard at least 4 times tonight....i dont know, i had a feeling about the detroit game, i had a feeling about yesterdays game, i dont have a feeling of "were gonna win" tonight, but i do have a feeling of a spectacular hinrich performance. I hope my feelings are as accurate as i want them to be.

Ciao (ill be watching the game after work, so around 10:30, hope they fair well)

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Nov 18, 2007 7:22 PM CST reply actions  

Let's do
this again Bulls!! Please keep the TO's down.

GO BULLS!!!

Racecar spelled backwards is racecar.

by sue369 on Nov 18, 2007 7:33 PM CST reply actions  

Sorry guys...
I'll be yelling/cheering/ranting against you tonight!

by withmalice on Nov 18, 2007 7:42 PM CST reply actions  

Why did Thomas not play last night?
I wasn't around so I don't know.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Nov 18, 2007 8:03 PM CST reply actions  

wow
A-Drain starting at SF. I assume El Flopso will continue to start at PF.
Officially a hater on Ballhype!

by hscs on Nov 18, 2007 8:05 PM CST reply actions  

oops
according to CSN pregame.
Officially a hater on Ballhype!

by hscs on Nov 18, 2007 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

WTF did Thomas do?
Holy fucking shit.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd

by tyger1147 on Nov 18, 2007 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

nothing
He didn't play much last night because Nocioni was posting up Tim Thomas, hitting shots, and drawing fouls. With the exception of Duhon, Skiles likes to dig deep to replace injured starters rather than mess with his second unit. That's how I remember it works anyway.
Officially a hater on Ballhype!

by hscs on Nov 18, 2007 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I read a quote from Skiles
somewhere about thinking he needed to play the vets more and for longer stretches.  I'll see if I can find it.
"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 18, 2007 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Here it is:
Following the game, Skiles suggested he might follow a new guideline for his playing rotation. Second-year forward Tyrus Thomas did not play at all in the second half.

"Ben (Wallace) played so well. The front court played so well," Skiles said. "I've got to look at the way we've played from the beginning of the season and consider maybe I should have the veterans out there a lot more and the younger, developmental guys maybe shouldn't be out there as much."

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=80151&src=150

Hopefully he didn't mean it quite like it sounds, although I think I'm grasping at straws to even bother looking for anything hopeful in that statement.

"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 18, 2007 8:27 PM CST up reply actions  

sounds like
Joe Smith's legs are going to go in December, and Nocioni hits a new +/- low.
Officially a hater on Ballhype!

by hscs on Nov 18, 2007 8:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Ugh
I don't like the sound of that quote. How are younger players supposed to develop with little to no playing time?

by bleargh on Nov 18, 2007 8:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Match ups
are going to be a nightmare tonight.
The Lakers are gonna look to pound the ball inside.    Wallace and Thomas need to avoid getting in early foul trouble.
What's scary is that Kobe doesn't usually have back to back off nights.  So I think he'll be a little more aggressive tonight.
That could mess up our guy's confidence but we'll see.

by Outsidergua on Nov 18, 2007 8:08 PM CST reply actions  

Hmmm,
Skiles didn't know that Luol said he might not play this week. He said that is the problem with the players in the NBA now, saying they don't think I'll play this week for whatever reason. He said they would put Lu through some tests and evaluate him then. So maybe Lu will be back sooner then he thought.
Racecar spelled backwards is racecar.

by sue369 on Nov 18, 2007 8:16 PM CST reply actions  

Norm Van leir is in game mode!
Ready to fight. Griff? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
Red Kerr's cough button.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Nov 18, 2007 8:20 PM CST reply actions  

That pass to Tyrus
Was nice, I guess.  I'd rather start Thabo.
On Tyrus Thomas: Get that man a table dance, please!

by cubbybear on Nov 18, 2007 8:42 PM CST up reply actions  

These games with the other teams' announcers
are actually helping me to grow fonder of our own Bulls' guys.
"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 18, 2007 8:47 PM CST reply actions  

I've been saying that all along!
That doesn't exactly speak well of NBA announcers, I guess.

by bleargh on Nov 18, 2007 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Big Ben must be the strongest MF on the planet
He didn't even extend his arms on that "shove" on Bynum.

by bleargh on Nov 18, 2007 8:58 PM CST reply actions  

Man, when is Kirk going to find his
shooting touch?!!

You know it's going to happen at some point, but meanwhile I find myself holding my breath every time he puts it up.

"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 18, 2007 9:01 PM CST reply actions  

can smith
stop shooting 20 footers?  i think its becoming abundantly clear what a fluke those first couple games were.  and wheres tyrus!?

by Mike C on Nov 18, 2007 9:07 PM CST reply actions  

Hell in a handbasket
Adrian Griffin?  Instead of Tyrus Thomas?!?  

by Freethefro on Nov 18, 2007 9:10 PM CST reply actions  

Kwame Brown out for the game....
I like that..
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 9:12 PM CST reply actions  

Dore
"Here's Nocioni, hustling up the floor."

Even Nocioni is getting tired of this.

Officially a hater on Ballhype!

by hscs on Nov 18, 2007 9:13 PM CST reply actions  

Thabo
lost the ball....
He is really bad...

by Azabullsfan on Nov 18, 2007 9:13 PM CST reply actions  

I still think Thabo's problem is
his corn rows are pulled too tight...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Glad we've got the behemoth
Joe Smith guarding Andrew Bynum.  This is gonna be great.

by Freethefro on Nov 18, 2007 9:15 PM CST reply actions  

Could Nocioni
be the Bulls' best player?

by alec on Nov 18, 2007 9:16 PM CST reply actions  

Yes
He is so far...in this LA games

by Azabullsfan on Nov 18, 2007 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Skiles
I'm so sick of his macho bullshit.  

by Freethefro on Nov 18, 2007 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Tyrus has been a bright spot
in a dismal year.  Unless he did something absolutely oulandish that we don't know about, I can't see why the guy can't get any burn.  He blocks shots, defends, gives us a different athletic dimension.  Instead we have to watch the 0/3 "savvy" of "seasoned vets" lugging their considerable paunches around the court.  Vile.

by Freethefro on Nov 18, 2007 9:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I keep thinking it has to be Skiles BS
Because you know Sam Smith would have made sure we all heard about it if Ty did anything to get benched.

Calming influence, my ass.  Let's have some Ty excitement!

"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 18, 2007 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Looks like the Bulls are back to normal
and shooting below 40%....
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 9:16 PM CST reply actions  

One thing I'd definitely say about Noce
he's as tough-minded as the rest of the team put together.  

by alec on Nov 18, 2007 9:17 PM CST reply actions  

Lakers
bench play better than starting 5

by Azabullsfan on Nov 18, 2007 9:17 PM CST reply actions  

Looks like both
which still doesn't help us out.
"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 18, 2007 9:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Why are the Lakers winning?
The Bulls look sluggish.
Red Kerr's cough button.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Nov 18, 2007 9:18 PM CST reply actions  

No one's making plays in low-post D
Would sure be nice to have Tyrus flying around down there...

by bleargh on Nov 18, 2007 9:20 PM CST reply actions  

Kirk is back too...
0 for F'in SIX???
WTF?
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 9:21 PM CST reply actions  

He musta hearde
he just made his second layup attempt....
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

kirk is a mess
i guess that second half of the suns game was just proof that all it takes to make a pg score is nash guarding him

by Mike C on Nov 18, 2007 9:24 PM CST reply actions  

He is apparently persona non grata
I have no idea why. Gotta think that Skiles has his reasons...

by bleargh on Nov 18, 2007 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

so
does wallace now show up every other game?

by Sambossanova on Nov 18, 2007 9:25 PM CST reply actions  

As I recall
Wallace was pretty bad in the second of back-to-backs last year. But he hasn't been THAT bad tonight.
And, damn, Griffin just got put in again and still no TT.

by bleargh on Nov 18, 2007 9:28 PM CST reply actions  

Thabo....
What a dork, falling for Kobe's pump fake
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 9:30 PM CST reply actions  

is thomas gardner
really expected to guard kobe?

by Mike C on Nov 18, 2007 9:31 PM CST reply actions  

These LA commentators SUCK
they just don't shut up and ramble about nothing.....
blblblblblbllbblblblblblblblbl
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 9:32 PM CST reply actions  

Whats going on
why has griffin played 10 minutes already and nocioni has three fouls...now would be a good time to take him out.  

Gordon is the man.

by Sambossanova on Nov 18, 2007 9:32 PM CST reply actions  

I have question for S cott
Why TT is not playing tonight at ALL?????

by Azabullsfan on Nov 18, 2007 9:34 PM CST reply actions  

This is like a pre-season game
Some of these lineups are loony. Griffin, Gardner, and Wallace in at the same time?

by bleargh on Nov 18, 2007 9:34 PM CST reply actions  

Does skiles have any daughters?
because that's about the only thing i can think of that tyrus could do that skiles would keep him out, unless he is hurt.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 18, 2007 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

welcome to the season thabo
unfortunately it started 2 weeks ago

by Mike C on Nov 18, 2007 9:35 PM CST reply actions  

At least Sefo seems to have solved some
of his early offensive offensiveness.

I'm just going to imagine that Ty is a little sick or something tonight, and for some reason Skiles doesn't want to share that info.  Don't care if it's completely made up, it's far less frustrating than thinking how much Ty would be helping the team.

"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 18, 2007 9:35 PM CST reply actions  

TT on the bench
...might be the type of thing we'd want our comcast team to report on at some point.

by pguilian on Nov 18, 2007 9:37 PM CST reply actions  

I has a feeling
that Kobe doesn't want to hurt his future team :-)

by Azabullsfan on Nov 18, 2007 9:37 PM CST reply actions  

that was joes smith
how old are you, why does everybody look like sefo to you?
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 18, 2007 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

my bad
you were right
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 18, 2007 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm going to have to start a profanity thread
for venting frustration over Skiles' enigmatic rotations, benchings, and overall scowliness.  

by Freethefro on Nov 18, 2007 9:40 PM CST reply actions  

Why all the bitching?
The bulls are up two on the road.  Everybody is playing pretty well.  A couple of guys have fouls.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 18, 2007 9:42 PM CST reply actions  

It's called Tyrus withdrawal
Primary symptom is rational irritation with the coaching staff.  Secondary symptoms are a slightly irrational dislike of A-Drain and general irritability.
"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 18, 2007 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Because our two most athletic bigs
have yet to play against a Lakers' frontline that is without its starting center and power forward.  And because I've had it with Skiles enigmatic rotations.  

But you're right, we're up two on the road; win this and things look a lot better!  

by Freethefro on Nov 18, 2007 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

by the way
the lakers radio announcers are treating this injury to kwame like kobe tore an acl or something.  its a sprained knee for kwame freaking brown.  i think theyll survive

by Mike C on Nov 18, 2007 9:59 PM CST reply actions  

lakers
what is it with all these offensive rebounds?

by Sambossanova on Nov 18, 2007 10:02 PM CST reply actions  

not to beat a dead horse or anything
but dont ya think tyrus or noah might be able to help here?

by Mike C on Nov 18, 2007 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely this is ridiculous
our lineup is very small...by college standards:

6'3, 6'2, 6'5, 6'7, 6'8.  

My high school team actually had taller players than that.

by Freethefro on Nov 18, 2007 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

And excuse me...Griff over TT???
This lineup is obsurd...
And Kirk HAS gone retard...can't shoot to save his life and is a TO king...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 10:04 PM CST reply actions  

that was Nocioni's fault
he pounded the ball until there was 5 seconds in the shot clock, then tossed it out to Gordon while he was covered behind the line.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 18, 2007 10:19 PM CST up reply actions  

It's interesting
that Comcast commentators didn't even ask a question about TT's not playing.

by Azabullsfan on Nov 18, 2007 10:07 PM CST reply actions  

Missing Luol.
Skiles fucks up again with this shit.
Red Kerr's cough button.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Nov 18, 2007 10:08 PM CST reply actions  

Here we go...
Skiles is a friggin' ASS wipe and the game has turned into the traditional BRICK fest for the bulls
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 10:12 PM CST reply actions  

Duhon
fimally we got something falling in.

by Azabullsfan on Nov 18, 2007 10:14 PM CST reply actions  

BG
doesn't know how to fall down from the left side.  Why he ever goes right is beyond me.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Nov 18, 2007 10:18 PM CST reply actions  

Huh
This Tyrus guy's got some skill

by bleargh on Nov 18, 2007 10:20 PM CST reply actions  

Tyrus
Veteran post play right there

by Seth @ Blog a Bull on Nov 18, 2007 10:21 PM CST reply actions  

Now the Lakers announcers
Are questioning Skiles' moves.

by bleargh on Nov 18, 2007 10:24 PM CST reply actions  

A slow death
Wallace
Tyrus
Nocioni
Gordon
Hinrich

Please.

Red Kerr's cough button.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Nov 18, 2007 10:25 PM CST reply actions  

3/11...
can't get much worse....

by Freethefro on Nov 18, 2007 10:25 PM CST reply actions  

Hinrich
is keeling this team!!!!BENCH HIM!

by Azabullsfan on Nov 18, 2007 10:25 PM CST reply actions  

Where the hell is Noc?!?!
First Tyrus doesn't play the whole first half, now Nocioni doesn't get PT in the 3rd quarter?

by bleargh on Nov 18, 2007 10:27 PM CST reply actions  

In control the whole first half
they should have been up by fucking 20!
Red Kerr's cough button.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Nov 18, 2007 10:28 PM CST reply actions  

Another shit game
That was the dumbest foul I ahve seen in a long time.

by Sambossanova on Nov 18, 2007 10:28 PM CST reply actions  

This reminds me of the Toronto game
We are pathetic.  Luol not playing is no excuse.

by chgobr on Nov 18, 2007 10:31 PM CST reply actions  

Worst part:
they're losing to a team without their starting PF, C, and for all intents and purposes, star shooting guard.  They're not losing to Kobe Bryant and the Lakers.  They're losing to the likes of Chris Mimh, Luke Walton, and Jordan Farmer.  Which is to say while the Lakers are garbage, we are....

by Freethefro on Nov 18, 2007 10:31 PM CST reply actions  

sweet, Noc is one foul away
from Tyrus time. Then again Skiles may play Duhon at PF.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 18, 2007 10:33 PM CST reply actions  

Goodnight all,
and kudos if you lasted this long!

by Freethefro on Nov 18, 2007 10:33 PM CST reply actions  

Why is it everytime I hear
that the Bulls have a "small lineup", I know it really means a lineup that can only brick jump shots and guard by fouls?

by RogersPark Kris on Nov 18, 2007 10:33 PM CST reply actions  

coaching staff
Stupidity has no limit/. Skiles on the top again

by runio on Nov 18, 2007 10:35 PM CST reply actions  

Funny to look at how Phil has turned
into LA "chill"...
No suit and tie - just a sport blazer, casual pants, tee shirt and "love beads"...

Gotta love it!   :-)

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 10:35 PM CST reply actions  

The worst part
is that the players are so terrible (especially Hinrich, Sefolosha) that it's tough to blame Skiles for his assinine lineups.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 18, 2007 10:36 PM CST reply actions  

tough to blame Skiles
But then on the other hand....maybe it's BECAUSE of his assinine lineups that is contributing to their being so terrible...?

Hey...it could happen...    :-)

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

it doesn't help
Skiles is regressing as a coach. It's really discouraging.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 18, 2007 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Skiles is regressing
Altered States...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 10:51 PM CST up reply actions  

FYI: I missed the first half
Recording snafu.

but it sounds to me like they were actually playing somewhat decent then?

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 18, 2007 10:37 PM CST reply actions  

Do
They have shooting drills at practice? Do they even have practice?

by gobulls1124 on Nov 18, 2007 10:38 PM CST reply actions  

that highlight
just showed that wallace cant jump higher than mihm which is pretty sad.

by Sambossanova on Nov 18, 2007 10:39 PM CST reply actions  

Mihm
Was 7'2" at the draft.  Unless you mean off the ground, Ben Wallace is 6'8" generously and would be hard-pressed to go higher.  That's 6 inches.  And on a bum ankle.

Btw, Kirk needs to stop thinking so much, I think.  He's in quite a shooting slump, after we predicted improvement in that area.

I wish I could watch this game.  Alas, I must watch gamechannel.

On Tyrus Thomas: Get that man a table dance, please!

by cubbybear on Nov 18, 2007 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

you're not missing much
except Red talking about how many bench points the Lakers have, and how they've outscored our starters. We're starting Adrian Griffin!

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 18, 2007 10:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Looks like the patriots
ran up the score again...no respect....
56 - 10?
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 10:40 PM CST reply actions  

What totally sucks is
my fantasy football opponent for the week has both Brady and Moss.  I went from a 14 point lead to losing by 61.

Sort of like the Bulls tonight.  

"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 18, 2007 10:46 PM CST up reply actions  

ouch.
sorry to hear that.
It sucks to be a Chicago fan right now....

Hense, my crafty sig line...   :-)

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 10:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Tuesday could be really ugly
if they can't get some offense going, because you have to figure the Nuggets are going to score.

And with the open looks they're missing tonight, you can't count on the lack of defense to do much for us.

I still feel bad for the guys, though - they're better shooters than this, and they've got to be as frustrated as we are.

"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 18, 2007 10:42 PM CST reply actions  

bwahaha
Duhon guarding Lamar Odom. I wonder how that's drawn up in 'the system'.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 18, 2007 10:42 PM CST reply actions  

I can't believe I used to like Skiles....
...he is a freaking dumbass who seems more intent on settling scores and over-thinking stuff, rather than keeping it simple and winning. Our team can certainly do with more talent, but having a tighly wound coach like Skiles isn't helping, he can'yt seem to get these guys to relax.

by bullsfaninbigapple on Nov 18, 2007 10:43 PM CST reply actions  

I used to like Skiles
I think we all did at one time.
But the team has grown up now and he doesn't seem to have what it takes to make the transition from good to great.
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

My mom didn't
she's always hated Skiles for some reason.  Now even moreso.

by Jaina on Nov 18, 2007 11:25 PM CST up reply actions  

last 5 min
gonna be more interesting to watch bc we'll see
Gray & Noah!

by Azabullsfan on Nov 18, 2007 10:48 PM CST reply actions  

I'm glad...
I'm not the only one who thinks Skiles has been terrible this year. I'm not excusing the bad play by the players, but Skiles has been horrible.

He keeps with line-ups that are doing absolutely nothing (i.e. see beginning of 3rd quater). Frankly, he looks completely lost. The players aren't gelling, and the coach is lost.

The team seems to be regressing, and Skiles solution is a 3 guard set. But, hey, maybe playing Nocioni more will solve all the problems.

by ScottSkilles Hair on Nov 18, 2007 10:49 PM CST reply actions  

Nocioni was actually a bright spot tonight
Too bad he hardly played when it mattered...when the Lakers won the game in the 3rd.

by bleargh on Nov 18, 2007 10:52 PM CST up reply actions  

it's shocking how poorly
Sefolosha's developed as a player.

I can't wait until he's a vital part of the Suns in a couple years.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 18, 2007 10:49 PM CST reply actions  

Kobe's tarde to Chicago
officially dead after todays "perfomance".
If there any trade talks with LA how about get
Andrew Bynum?

by Azabullsfan on Nov 18, 2007 10:52 PM CST reply actions  

I am going to vent.
I know Luol is out tonight, which is a major mitigating circumstance, but I am quickly losing patience with this team.

They aren't just poor offensively, they are fucking horrendous, they are intolerable. They are so bad offensively that they aren't even enjoyable to watch at this point. That's how bad it is. It's hard to even bear witness to their ineptitude. Just viewing the game on TV makes me feel clumsy, disorganized, and slow. They don't even remotely resemble an NBA team on offense. Two points in the first SEVEN minutes of the third quarter? What?

It doesn't seem that anyone on the roster is capable of driving to the basket with success on a consistent basis. The guards have inexplicably regressed during the offseason. Gordon and Hinrich are supposed to be budding stars. They look like bewildered CBA rookies, especially Hinrich. Turnovers, poor shooting, dumb fouls, bad defense. And it isn't as if the rest of the team has been any better than the duo of doom.

The team actually executes so poorly on offense that it is comical at times. It's a perpetually looped 24 second blooper reel.

I know many of you seem ready to blame Skiles. Maybe he deserves some blame, but his contribution to this mess has been marginal. You simply can't win in the NBA if you don't have players who can score the motherf'in ball with something approaching regularity.

It's early in the season, Deng is out, its the dreaded circus trip, I have to believe the team WILL play better, but god damn, they look awful. At least be competitive.

SUCK IT SABAN!

by 1958ChiTown on Nov 18, 2007 10:53 PM CST reply actions  

also
our announcers are garbage. This makes everything worse.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 18, 2007 10:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I keep trying to be positive
because there is a lot of season left, and they could start looking great at some point.

But seriously, to go from a 1 point lead at the half to a 28 point loss?  That's really tough to stomach.  The second half was just hideous tonight.

"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 18, 2007 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Love lookin' at all the LALA folks
chillin' on a Sunday night, wonderin' when the strike will get resolved, hangin' and groovin' wit all da hipsters...

LA is quite the righ town....it's amazing...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Andrew Bynum
Is it me,or does Bynum look a bit like Tracy Morgan, espescially when he smiles.

by Sambossanova on Nov 18, 2007 10:57 PM CST reply actions  

Well, this should send the Bulls
straight back to 30th in the power rankings.
"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 18, 2007 10:57 PM CST reply actions  

good teams don't get blown out
remember their streak of not losing by double-digits? This is two 30-point losses in a week.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 18, 2007 10:59 PM CST up reply actions  

this pisses me off more
that Tyrus has to be out there in garbage time to get embarrased.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 18, 2007 10:58 PM CST reply actions  

correction
everyone on this team looks like a bust.  Except for duhon...cause he never was supposed to be good, so he is just meeting expectations.

by Sambossanova on Nov 18, 2007 10:59 PM CST up reply actions  

that time doesn't even count
it's garbage. Skiles should worry about 'developmental' players (especially if he considers Tyrus one, which is absurd) because they're the ones who will get this team places, not his old favs. We've seen where they can get us.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 18, 2007 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Look at this fucking fourth quarter.
Look at this fucking lineup.

I am actually having flashbacks of sitting in an empty UC night after night in 2000, watching nameless, overmatched scrubs trying to compete with NBA players.

(Yeah, I realize this team is nowhere as bad as those teams, but this quarter simply reminds me of the futility of that era.)

SUCK IT SABAN!

by 1958ChiTown on Nov 18, 2007 11:00 PM CST reply actions  

How about some of those lineups in the first half?
When the game was Chicago's for the taking, Skiles had Gardner and Griffin in, with Tyrus nowhere to be seen. And I was holding out hope that he wasn't playing TT for obvious reasons (sick, injured, whatever) because, as the coach, he should want to put the best players out there, right? I assume he wants to win games! But, when the game was already pretty much lost, he throws Tyrus out there to the wolves after he'd been sitting for over half the damn game.
Factor in Nocioni's playing time being inexpicably cut after a fairly good first half and I, well, I just don't get what the hell the coach is doing.

by bleargh on Nov 18, 2007 11:06 PM CST up reply actions  

It looks like sabotage
Skiles does't want to win,and did everything to lose the game.Maybe he's trying to show to Pax how
bad this team is,in order to get Kobe.
I know it's crazy,but what should we think?

by Azabullsfan on Nov 18, 2007 11:45 PM CST up reply actions  

hinrich - salto mortale fantastico
Tutti duo fagotti, skiles entusistico, molto macabra.

by runio on Nov 18, 2007 11:03 PM CST reply actions  

The Bulls have blown so many
lottery picks!  And you just don't get those back.  This is looking to me like a team that will be dead for the forseeable future.  

by alec on Nov 18, 2007 11:05 PM CST reply actions  

Kendall Gill
"Bulls need Aaron Gray more"

Well, this season is then fucked. Congrats to the staff for getting this team ready for the season.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 18, 2007 11:08 PM CST reply actions  

You must be pretty steamed
I believe that's the first time I've seen you drop an F-bomb on this site
"My jumper's so smooth it will seduce your girlfriend." -1958ChiTown

by NittanyBull on Nov 18, 2007 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Kendall Gill
 calling for moe Aaron Gray.

by alec on Nov 18, 2007 11:08 PM CST reply actions  

That is quite depressing
Is it too late to get a refund on my NBA league pass???

by bleargh on Nov 18, 2007 11:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Well aleast they Kobe rumors are dead!
I'll see you guys next season!
Red Kerr's cough button.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Nov 18, 2007 11:10 PM CST reply actions  

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Red Kerr's cough button.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Nov 18, 2007 11:12 PM CST reply actions  

To have a shooting percent of less than 40%
coupled with terrible defense is a classic recipe for losing a LOT of games.

It is very conceivable that this team never DOES wake up and ends up having a terrible year...

Ugh....I think I'll skip watching highlights on CC sportsrise tomorrow.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Nov 18, 2007 11:14 PM CST reply actions  

Detroit lost, too
Woohoo!  We maintained our 3 1/2 game deficit in the Central.  Way to go, Bulls.

Good thing not showing up for a half and getting totally blown out doesn't carry an extra loss penalty or anything.

"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 18, 2007 11:16 PM CST reply actions  

Why was it so dark in the stadium?
It looked different last night!
Red Kerr's cough button.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Nov 18, 2007 11:30 PM CST reply actions  

It's dark because...
The Lakers are running a new marketing campaign, where the lights will all be focused on the court only - reminiscent of the team's Forum days.

by withmalice on Nov 19, 2007 12:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I understand why it's popular to bag on Kirk
right now - he's certainly not playing well, by any stretch of the imagination.  But historically he's much better than this, and I still believe he'll get it turned around.  It's worrisome, because I don't recall him having a shooting slump quite like this before.  But I think it would be like trading Tyson - he'd be fine to great somewhere else and everyone would start moping about another lousy trade.
"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 18, 2007 11:48 PM CST up reply actions  

hinrich
seems always to be on the verge of breaking out.  He  is always up to the same old crap though: turnovers, quick fouls, horrible shooting stretches, weak ability to finish in the paint, and complaining to the referees. If this season doesn't turn around and turn around quickly, I am going to start thinking that everyone on the bulls was just hyped up.  The young bulls or whatever crap.  They are getting older and older but not better.  I also have issues with Paxson draft picks and signings.  The Pax we trust thing is insane.  What is it again that makes him better than other GMs?  Maybe i am just angry and ranting but this is starting to look more and more desperate every night.

by Sambossanova on Nov 19, 2007 12:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I wasn't talking about "breaking out,"
just about getting back to normal play.
"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Nov 19, 2007 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

unless
Your smart and trade him this offseason when he and all the bulls have some value. The worst part of this season is knowing the bulls are stuck with this team for the forseeable future. Fire Skiles now. TT was the second pick in the draft he should be getting 25 to 20 mpg easy. Either Pax is not that good of a gm or Skiles is a terrible coach.  

by Blacknight23 on Nov 19, 2007 12:23 AM CST reply actions  

Man i would love to have Luis Scola
and we should have traded the #9 pick and BG for Gasol.IMO

by eross226 on Nov 19, 2007 12:28 AM CST reply actions  

Except that...
it's not what Memphis was supposedly asking in return.

It is useless to use an "if only" for something that was never even in the cards.

The Game chose him !

by Diabolo on Nov 19, 2007 1:46 AM CST up reply actions  

and
When you are in a slump of shooting why dont you try driving the lane.If your not good at finishing then I am sure theres someone you can dish the ball to.Deng,Wallace,Noc come on Hinrich common sense!!!!!!!!!!

by eross226 on Nov 19, 2007 12:31 AM CST reply actions  

maybe
because he is really bad at driving into the lane??? Its not like making layups is easy if your kirk hinrich.  And I am not talking about just during his slump.

by Sambossanova on Nov 19, 2007 1:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow...
I had to go to immigration (I live in Japan)... the Lakers pummeled the Bulls and THEN some, huh?

by withmalice on Nov 19, 2007 12:58 AM CST reply actions  

I'm now officially panicking
Matt said it above, but good teams almost never get blown out this badly.  Maybe you can dismiss one bad game as a fluke, but when you lose by 30 points twice in 8 days, that means something. Even when they got off to a bad start last year, they never got blistered like this.  I know Deng was out, but still, the Lakers aren't really that good.

by Big D on Nov 19, 2007 7:20 AM CST reply actions  

we're starting to beat records
Yesterday lose to Lakers
was with a bigest margin.
Previous was in 1968 by 27 points.
This team needs surgery,and looks
like Skiles is first candidate to go.
He looks lost,he doesn't know whwere
to go with this team.
Okafor is a restricted free agent next year.
Can MJ help us like McHale helped Celtics?

by Azabullsfan on Nov 19, 2007 7:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Hmm....
I would think that MJ would only help us if Skiles or Paxson had been part of the bulls dynasty back in the days.

by Outsidergua on Nov 19, 2007 11:21 AM CST reply actions  

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