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Luol Deng: Defensive Anchor


The Bulls offense has certainly seen it's ups and downs this season. When fully healthy (or when Rose goes bananas), the Bulls offense seems to perform admirably. However, with Thibs at the helm and plenty of solid defenders on the roster, it would seem that the Bulls defense would always be there to keep them in games. Lately, that has not seemed to be the case. I am starting to get the feeling that it is Luol Deng and not Joakim Noah or Taj or Asik that is the true defensive anchor to this team. To be honest, I am not 100% sure going in to this what the results will be, but it's an interesting topic to look at, and one that will weigh heavily on the success the Bulls might have in the future.

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First, let's do the simple thing. Let's look at the Bulls defensive rating with and without Deng on the floor. According to 82games.com, the Bulls defense has been 6.5 points better with Luol Deng on the floor. While that seems pretty significant, you have to understand that part of this is due to the people backing up Deng. Korver, a less than stellar backup, will certainly make anyone's defense look better in comparison. Well, let's look at some lineup data instead. I took a look at some lineup data here. I tried to look at lineups that were identical in players other than Deng. Example 1, Rose/Brewer/Deng-Korver/Boozer/Noah. DRtg 95 with Deng, 100 without. So, Deng is worth 5 points on the defensive end over Korver. I hope this isn't something we are shocked by. Example 2, Rose/Hamilton/Deng-Brewer/Boozer/Noah. Here, Deng is replaced by Brewer, a more than capable defender. DRtg 107 with Deng, 95 without. Uh oh, what happened here? Well, for 1 the Bulls ORtg was a massive 116 with Deng in the lineup and 93 without (starting lineup is looking pretty good, damn injuries). My guess is there are two issues here. There is a large minutes discrepancy here. Big problem. Furthermore, this unit may have been running more, which could have caused issues on the defensive end. Plus, any unit with Boozer is just a mixed bag. Ok, now I have found the simple problem. We don't have enough data from this year alone. Well, let's look at some data from last year. Well, alas there is not enough comparable data there either. Brewer played too many minutes with Deng. We would simply be comparing Deng and Korver again.

FWIW, last year the Bulls defense was nearly identical with Deng on/off the court. Well, this is proving pretty fruitless. Let's try something a bit more simple. Bulls DRtgs in each game without Deng: 111.2,110.7,96.3, 102.5, 108.0, 105.3, 112.3. The Bulls DRtg on the year is 98.4. The Bulls have had one game better than that since Deng has been out. I am approximated the Bulls DRtg before Deng went out and got 95.5. Assuming I am close to right, the Bulls have had zero games where the did better than their DRtg for the season since Deng has gone out. To me, that's pretty persuasive, especially considering the fact that we didn't play a ton of offensive juggernauts in there.

Just from watching games, the Bulls defense has seemed awful without Deng. Even if he is a bit less proficient offensively, if Deng can come back and still lead the Bulls defense, he should give the Bulls a needed boost.

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There's no doubt we're better defensively with Lu

I also think we’re a better defensive rebounding team, which means less shots, and hence less points for the opponent off second chance opportunities.

But I think one thing to consider when breaking things down is that I think his injury also coincided with us playing better teams. Teams that are better offensively. So maybe that has a little something to do with it

Whoever keeps putting Justin Timberlake in all these movies, please, stop.

by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 3, 2012 12:18 PM CST reply actions  

I did consider that after I posted

But let’s really take a look at how good they actually are.

NYK – 24th
PHI – 6th (a 106.7 ORtg, we allowed a 110.7)
WSH – 28th (we actually still couldn’t hold them below their current ORtg)
MIA – 2nd (we did well in this one)
MIL – 17th
IND – 18th
NJN – 15th

I fail to see how we really played much better competition (at least on the offensive side). Miami was the only team we held below their current ORtg. Being a top defense, the Bulls do this much more often than they have of late. So while this is a possibility, I just don’t see it. Again, could be other reasons, but 1-7 for holding teams below their average has got to be much, much worse than the Bulls have done this season as a whole.

by DRoseO1 on Feb 3, 2012 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Those were their ORtg ranks btw

And the Knicks are thee only team whose rating might simply be a poor reflection.

by DRoseO1 on Feb 3, 2012 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmm, guess not

Didn’t realize Indy’s offense was that poor

Whoever keeps putting Justin Timberlake in all these movies, please, stop.

by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 3, 2012 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Honestly

Surprised me too

by DRoseO1 on Feb 3, 2012 5:08 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

So you're tellin' me Lu's defense is horrible in the fourth quarter?

Whoever keeps putting Justin Timberlake in all these movies, please, stop.

by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 4, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I think you are spot on.

Deng is a fantastic presence on the defensive end. Where Brewer is also an amazing shut down defender, I think Deng is a better off the ball defender. He helps better, gets rebounds better and denies the ball better. Not to mention, he can reasonably defend a 4 or at least provide a much better double team on someone like STAT than Brewer can.

With Deng in there we have someone who can lock down almost any three and give great help defense on the the 2 and 4, meaning the other two open spots, the 1 and 5, are defended by our 2nd and 3rd best defenders in the starting unit (Noah and Rose). That’s easily part of why we started the season with historically great defense (not to mention Asik and Gibson and Brewer off the bench obviously).

Idk, I don’t want to spend time looking up stats and all that, but the point is I think you’re right.

"I actually think he's kind of cute."
-My fiance on Joakim Noah
*headdesk*

by Micdiddy on Feb 3, 2012 4:46 PM CST reply actions  

His mastering the Lu-Deng Arts
He’s a rookie who figures to find some more time in the rotation now — especially since Deng (wrist) is hurting and Rip Hamilton (thigh/groin) could be out for a while. The key for Butler, as he readily admits, is confidence. That confidence was on display in a major way thanks to his clutch jumper. The rookie praised Deng for his guidance before the moment found him.

“When I walked over to the bench, Lu was like, ‘Shoot the ball!’,” Butler said. “[My teammates] were like, ‘If you’re open, shoot it.’ So I took two jump shots right after [he said that]. I turned and I was open, I missed the first one. Booz got the rebound. I go back over to the bench and Lu was like, ‘See, good things happen when you shoot the ball. You miss and [we] got the offensive rebound and two points.’ And then the next play, I looked down at the bench before [I shot] and was like, ‘OK, listen to Lu.’ I came off of [the screen] in one dribble and pulled up which is a type of shot I love to take. I think that fits within my game.”

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by JustAnotherFan on Feb 3, 2012 6:01 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

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