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Time to Get Creative: Trading for Michael Beasley.

Beasley's on my fantasy team and in a little nugget I saw while looking at his player page I saw this:

The Lakers and Minnesota have talked about a trade that would send Beasley to Los Angeles, ESPN's Chris Broussard reports. Beasley scored 17 points with seven rebounds in 33 minutes in Monday's loss to Denver.

The report says the Lakers would likely give up a second-round pick or cash.

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When you're a team at the top like the Bulls are and you're going to be drafting 28-30th in the draft for the foreseeable future(Charlotte's pick is still years away), you need to be creative when looking at ways to improve your team. And when a low-risk high-reward situation like this presents itself, I don't see how you can turn it down.

Minnesota has a minutes issue at the forward spots: Kevin Love is the main guy and will be taking up damn near all the minutes at the 4 and the team just invested a high lottery pick in Derrick Williams, who's probably their future at the 3. And if it's not him, it's Wesley Johnson. Right now, Beasley's better than either one, but the T-Wolves are not about the now, they're looking down the road and if they can unload Beasley and pick up a draft pick, they'd probably do it now that he's on the bench after being injured early on.

So why would the Bulls do this? For several reasons:

1) If the Bulls do intend to make a splash and go after Dwight Howard, they will need to part with Lieutenant Deng. Now, Beasley's not the defender Deng is, but he's a much more gifted scorer and though the defense at the 3 might suffer, you plug in a really capable scorer who can get his own shot and you have Dwight under the basket, which offsets any loss of defense and then some.

2) Even if they do not go after Dwight, why not throw our really late first rounder at Minnesota for Beasley? He's a little big for the position, but I'd give him minutes at the 2 next to Derrick, moving Ronnie back to the bench mob while Rip is out. If Beasley works out, you worry about fitting Rip back into things later and perhaps hive him some time with Derrick and some time with the bench mob and bury Kyle or Ronnie further down the bench. Beasley has the potential to be the backcourt/swingman scorer to plug in with Derrick to give this team a big-time scoring punch for the next 7-8 years.

Even if Beasley doesn't become a capable defender under Thibs, which is a big possibility, he's still a super-useful scorer off of the bench and can start for you in a pinch. People here were clamoring for JR Smith, I don't see why Beasley isn't a better option. He's got far more upside and has been a 20ppg scorer as recently as last season while miscast as a #1 scoring option.

If he doesn't work out here.......kiss his ass goodbye and all you're out on is a pick which you could probably buy from another team for a million bucks or two. I look at this as a once-in-a-while situation to acquire a big talent for a bargain price, much like Memphis did with Zach Randolph a couple of years ago. I really, really like the idea of Beasley as a second or third scoring option under the tutelage of Tom Thibodeau. What do y'all think of going after this kid?

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horrible idea don’t want this guy anywhere near this team im sorry i’d look elsewhere for scoring options..

by ChicagoStyle on Feb 23, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Where you gonna get a scorer by giving up virtually nobody?

If you think this Bulls FO is the type to really shake things up, you and I are talking about different teams.

by dakoose on Feb 23, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the big question for the org is

How would this affect our flexibility and team chemistry going forward?

by ChiTownSportsMaster on Feb 21, 2012 2:40 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Exactly once he suggested Beasley at the 2…my mind shut off. Beasley can’t even guard 3s…how’s he gonna fuck with 2s

by C Smoove on Feb 21, 2012 3:22 PM CST reply actions  

Beasley's been pretty awful this year

He’s regressed across the board, and at this point, calling him a “capable scorer who can create his own shot” isn’t really justified. Throw in his awful defense, and now you know why the asking price is only a 2nd-rounder + cash.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Feb 21, 2012 3:25 PM CST reply actions  

For reference, compare these two players' stat lines this year

Player A: 17.3 points/36 min, .424 FG%, .426 3pt%, .486 TS%, 24.9 USG%
Player B: 17.1 points/36 min, .390 FG%, .417 3pt%, .481 TS%, 25.5 USG%

Player A is Michael Beasley. Player B is John Lucas the Third.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Feb 21, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

So, what you're saying is

We should lock JLIII down as soon as possible?

by jpx7 on Feb 21, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

But we already used our max deal on DRose!

Hopefully he does not start clamoring for a trade to a team in a warmer climate.

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by THEKILLERWHALE on Feb 21, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

if its for a pick, y not i guess

somebody gotta buy noah’s shwag anyway

Proud Boozer hater...umm ya, fu** that guy

by Belize on Feb 21, 2012 3:30 PM CST reply actions  

he would be great if we could get him for cheap

He can score the ball in an ISO situation which is great for us. If lebron guards rose and wade guards deng who guards Beasley? Barrier maybe? But then you have Chalmers on rip.

Rose-Hamilton-deng-Beasley-Noah for like 5 minutes a game would TORCH teams. Plus he’s no worse than Booze defensively.

by MartyMondays on Feb 21, 2012 5:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

you mean Battier*...Not Barrier

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by T.Moore on Feb 22, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Idk why people seem so down on the idea

I like it if he’s willing to come off the bench. I’m tiring of the Brewer/Korver experiment. We need a legit bench scoring threat. Plus I’d be very interested what kind of work Thibs could do with Beasley. I don’t care if his stats have declined, he’s a talented player. If you put him in the right environment, with the right coach, in the right role, he could flourish.

All that being said, he seems like a VERY immature guy. He doesn’t seem like a bad person, but just kinda dumb, and careless. And I’m not sure that’s someone you want to bring in at the moment. It might be the type of move you make AFTER this season to switch things up, if the current squad can’t get the job done

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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 21, 2012 9:02 PM CST reply actions  

That's all I'm saying here.

There will not be any no-brainers for the Bulls to pull off that can vastly improve the team; if they want to take another step forwards they will have to get creative and try some moves. This is a low-cost, low-risk move that can pay off enormous dividends if it works out. If it doesn’t…..you didn’t lose much.

by dakoose on Feb 21, 2012 11:23 PM CST up reply actions  

exactly, ive never heard of Beasley being some toxic player who ruins teams

He’s just a little hardheaded, surround him with good coaches, good leaders like Rose and Rip, and a winning situation in Chicago?

I really think he would realise the opportunity and provide a legit threat as our 6th man. CJ,Butler, Beasley, Taj, Asik. Sounds better than our current bench mob.

by MartyMondays on Feb 22, 2012 8:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

People are down on the idea because he is not all that good at basketball

If we could simply trade an exception for him, it becomes a win-win situation, where if he fits, we can use him, but if not there is no harm done. However, we have to give up pieces that are part of the successful system currently in place.

Since his rookie season, his PER is down, his TS% is way down, his rebound rates are down (although he does play with Love), his 3pt% is his only redeeming quality. I guess maybe giving up KK for him is not the worst idea since he is not a great defender and just gets threes anyhow, but even then, at least KK knowos the system. I’d be worried about making any trade for a guy that was not for sure a game changer. Picking up free agents or trading nothing for something on the other hand, is another story.

by DRoseO1 on Feb 22, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Beasley

is a better player than Brewer or Korver. If we can get him easily, we should.

by MartyMondays on Feb 22, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Two things

One, you give no argument for this. Just because a guy was drafted number 2, doesn’t make him good. Furthermore, better at offense? Certainly. Better at defense? Pishh. Furthermore, they don’t even play the same positions! Beasley is splitting time between the SF and PF pretty evenly. Korver is a SG/SF and Brewer has played mostly SG. If we get rid of these players, who the hell is going to play 2 guard?

by DRoseO1 on Feb 22, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

jimmy butler / cj watson

Hell even deng can play the 2. We were looking into guys like Tayshawn Prince to play the 3 with deng at 2.

Backup wing players are a dime a dozen, 6-10 combo forwards with ISO skills and 3pt range are not. To have him as a 6th man would give us a totally different angle.

by MartyMondays on Feb 23, 2012 10:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

lol good point

Odom = way better passer
Beasley = reasonably better scorer

by MartyMondays on Feb 23, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

i would never trade something i thought was extremely important for Beasley

but if it’s like a 2nd round pick and brewer or korver… it just makes sense. Beasley gives us one thing we are missing, he can get his own shot. He’s not the greatest at it but he possesses the skill. Brewer is a liability on offense and Korver has proven he can’t get a good shot against an athletic defense.

by MartyMondays on Feb 23, 2012 11:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Basically

if we’re playing the Heat and our offense is DEAD, i have more faith in putting Beasley out there than Brewer.

by MartyMondays on Feb 23, 2012 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

If we're playing the Heat

And we’re relying on either Brewer or Beasley to create offense, we’re most likely dead.

by tuluse on Feb 24, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

dead?

Proud Boozer hater...umm ya, fu** that guy

by Belize on Feb 24, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

i don't think at the beginning of last year

you would have said, “man i have a feeling JJ Barea is going to be a MAJOR contributor to a championship team this year!” but shit happens. You need weapons and even though Beasley is a jackass he’s more likely to have an impact on a team that needs offensive firepower, than brewer or korver.

by MartyMondays on Feb 24, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

The effect that Barea had on that series is highly overrated

Barea had one good game against Miami and 4 bad ones.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Feb 26, 2012 3:19 AM CST up reply actions  

It's not weather he played well or not

he gave them something they didn’t have, dribble penetration. Players just by being in the game have a certain effect, even when Korver doesn’t make shots he opens up the game for instance.

The effect a player has on a game goes a lot further than weather they had a good or bad game, Beasley would give the Bulls something they don’t have.

by MartyMondays on Feb 26, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

13+ ppg

on 50% shooting and 5 assists once he was inserted into the starting lineup, starting with game 4. They went on to win game 4, and the next 2.

Before he was inserted into the starting lineup, he was virtually ineffective. ; scoring just 13 points TOTAL, while shooting 28% from the field.

I needed a new sig.

by chicity773 on Feb 27, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Well then you didn't read

because he said you would trade Deng for Howard

by TheFunkle on Feb 22, 2012 2:48 AM CST up reply actions  

which I should clarify

you would be a moron not to do. I love Deng. But Howard is just…….. Howard

by TheFunkle on Feb 22, 2012 2:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Then you stopped reading before you started,

because like TheFunkle said, I never said that. I said that if you include Deng in a deal for Howard, you supplement that with dealing for Beasley.

by dakoose on Feb 22, 2012 8:44 AM CST up reply actions  

There's a reason Miami traded Beasley for almost nothing when they were desperate for pieces to surround the big 3

It’s because Beasley is a potential cancer to a team. Do we really want a guy like that? The fact that Minnesota is willing to trade him should speak volumes as well. If a rebuilding team doesn’t want a young talent, he has to be a total headcase.

Do you really think Beasley would react well to Thibs too? Thibs isn’t going to play him and he’d probably be in the doghouse for his horrendous D and selfish offense.

Beas is probably in the top 10 players I would not want to see the Bulls trade for.

by TheHungarianJordan on Feb 22, 2012 4:44 PM CST reply actions  

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