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A tale of two blowouts or the weekend where the Bulls gave it and took it

The Bulls exploded with huge runs in Orlando on Friday to handle the Magic 97-83, but responded by receiving an old fashioned beatdown in Atlanta on Saturday to the Hawks 109-94. In both games, the scores were a lot closer than they should've been.

PaceeFG%TOV%ORB%FT/FGAORtg
CHI 88.8 .488 11.4 33.3 .151 109.3
ORL 88.8 .447 16.8 22.0 .213 93.5

PaceeFG%TOV%ORB%FT/FGAORtg
CHI 91.6 .476 17.3 38.6 .195 102.6
ATL 91.6 .620 13.2 13.3 .072 119.0

In Orlando, Derrick Rose (21 points on 7-for-18, ten assists, eight rebounds) and Luol Deng (21 points on 8-for-16) scored like gods a points of the game; while Carlos Boozer was a rebounding machine (13 rebounds, 20 points on 9-for-19), reaping the benefits of Dwight Howard playing more the role of a help defender than gatekeeper at the rim.

Joakim Noah (four points on 2-for-9, ten rebounds) was embarrassed regularly by Howard (28 points on 11-for-18, 15 rebounds) -- SURPRISE!!! -- when the help didn't arrive from Deng or Boozer. When the help was there, Howard was forced to pass out or the help was aggressive enough to force turnovers. When Omer Asik (zero points, three rebounds in 8:37) was in the game, Howard struggled to back him down and was actually regularly taking shots further from the basket than the point at which he was receiving the ball. When Taj Gibson was on the floor with Boozer, Boozer was manning up with Howard and received great help from Taj. As bad as Noah looked, Howard does this to everyone and everyone needs help with Howard.

The help deficiency showed when Noah helped to prevent dribble penetration and the third effort to back him up was consistently absent, opening up clear passing lanes to Howard where he was wide open at the rim. When there was good help on the inside, the Bulls failed to close out on long-range shooters -- Orlando offensive bread-and-butter (7-for-20 on 3s. Fortunately for the Bulls, the Magic move the ball like a circus (17 turnovers).

The bad of Orlando was disguised by Orlando's bad, the Bulls owning the game in transition, and strokes of brilliance moving the ball and moving off the ball to make a strong defense lose energy. In Atlanta, the Hawks exponentially magnified these problems.

The Bulls managed to send their Saturday opponents to the line only six times (!!!) and still allowed 109 points; they out-rebounded The ATL 43-31 and frickin' lost. (Read that again if you can't believe it yourself.)

The Hawks are prone to get into stupid modes of jacking awful shots after too much dribbling. But the Bulls never recovered to shooters when they collapsed the paint, so they weren't forcing the over-dribbling into bad shots. Instead, the Hawks were seeing wide open long-range shots and converted 9-of-12 3s.

The interior help was even more brutal, allowing 54 points in the paint and 56.6% overall shooting.

When the Bulls have defensive breakdowns on possessions, it's usually due to either: (a) over-helping against the ball-handler to leave an inside man open for an easy bucket; (b) not helping enough in the low post where an easy bucket is created; or (c) over-helping from the perimeter to the interior and not recovering when the open shooter gets the kick-out from the inside. They managed to perform all three simultaneously on dozens of possessions against the Hawks.

Meanwhile, the Bulls were constantly trying to attack the Hawks zone with... pick n' roll?!? What? Not to mention, the Bulls were consistently standing still doing nothing on almost every first half possession in the halfcourt trying to read whether or not Atlanta was playing zone until there was ten seconds left in the shot clock. There's a fine line between lacking energy and actually making decisions badly (or being in constant indecision) because you're being shown as incapable counter a look. This is what was embarrassing.

Star-divide

To their defense, the Bulls were on the tail-end of a back-to-back, playing their third consecutive road game, playing their fifth game in seven days. Playing Rose (eight poiints on 3-for-10, six assists, five turnovers) and Deng (eight points on 5-for-13, one steal, one block, three turnovers) less in other games may have equaled more energy tonight, but nothing significant enough to make up such glaring deficiencies. As a reward, they got their rest, respectively playing 28:14 and 29:44.

That said, the bench played very well, being largely responsible for the Bulls' 24-point second quarter and entirely responsible for the 32 points in the 4th. I say that of the second quarter because the Hawks closed out the first half on an 18-2 run

Kyle Korver responded to Friday's call where he scored 18 (6-for-8, 5-for-7 on 3s in 31:10) with a 13-point performance in Atlanta (3-for-8, 3-for-5 on 3s, five assists in 35:15) with Richard Hamilton unable to play (groin), though Ronnie Brewer started both games. John Lucas III (16 points on 6-for-12, 2-for-4 on 3s) didn't have many problems with Atlanta's zone. He actually dribbled through the perimeter to quickly read the strong and weak sides, then acted accordingly. Jimmy Butler came out with a very aggressive 12 points in 12 minutes on 3-for-3 shooting and 6-for-6 at the line to go with three rebounds and was the only perimeter player to consistently prevent open shots.

Gibson (11 points on 5-for-8, two rebounds, two blocks in 28:45) came out strong when his help timing was there and Asik (eight points on 4-for-8 and 13 rebounds in 20:13) completed the frontcout ticket we could believe in for the night. Again, despite the more than two dozens of millions going to the two starters -- a low post ninja in a love affair with the fadeaway jumper and an energy guy huffing and puffing at the 6:00 mark of the first frickin' quater. This is turning into a sick joke.

You can't really oversimplify Saturday's awful showing by saying this was back-to-back-on-the-road weird stuff, as what was bad in spurts on Friday night was just more awful more often on Saturday night. But what was bad isn't a flaw in the system as the problem was the players not executing the system; nor was it a deficincy of talent, as the issue was energy and the Bulls are built on speed and youth. I'd go so far as to say the whole weekend was weird or the Bulls, Magic, and Hawks. The Magic was weirdly moving the ball too much, the Hawks were actually moving the ball, and the Bulls were over-commiting to first actions instead of being ready to react and recover.

The schedule is unforgiving and the Bulls playing their sixth game in nine nights on Monday, but it's back at home, hosting the confidence-boosting Pistons.

At 7-2, the Bulls are on pace to be 49-14 with three game left in the season, which should be enough to cruise to at least the second seed in the East. (Have you seen the garbage in Atlantic Division lately?) The sky isn't falling and though fatigue is a concern, a bright spot came out of this weekend: Tom Thibodeau threw in the towel at the right time in Atlanta.

A valid criticism is that he rides Rose and Deng too hard in certain wins, but we've seen since the Knicks' air strike at the United Center in October 2010 that he'll take 0% chance of winning with his bench not losing ground late rather than go nuts to milk small percentages of win probability by demanding his starters to perform at levels they're showing to be incapable. The comeback win against the Hawks earlier in the week was one where he gave Rose and Deng a couple of minutes to make a showing and they did; at no point was that evident in the second half on Saturday and Thibs sent a message, got some bench players some deserved PT, and some rest for the starters after a long week.

Stats via Basketball-Reference.com.

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nice recap

Even though I sometimes wonder why Thibs leaves Rose and Deng out late in games that are clear wins, it’s not like those 2 extra minutes at the end of the 4th quarter are gonna have that big of an impact on how tired they are…. Usually we are trying to run the clock out on offense, so its not like they’re expending tons of energy out there. I was definitely encouraged when he took them out early in the blowout loss to Atlanta though, and I have full faith in his minutes distribution going forward.

Practice beats talent when talent doesn't practice.

by iamsasquatch on Jan 8, 2012 10:24 AM CST reply actions  

One caveat...

it’s not like those 2 extra minutes at the end of the 4th quarter are gonna have that big of an impact on how tired they are…

That is true, however the much greater concern is either injuries or aggravations of existing injuries during those late minutes. Rose hurt his elbow late in the Pistons game, and who knows whether or not any lingering effects of that played any role in his sub-par performance.

by Paul Warfield on Jan 8, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

What's wrong with Noah is that he sucks at scoring right now.

The Bulls offense is at times borderline retarded; who in there right mind posts up a guy like Noah when there are three other better scorers out there. In the last three games, I’ve seen on at least five occasions Boozer have the ball at the high post and call for a Noah post up. They didn’t cash in once. His shot isn’t good, his ability to finish near the hoop isn’t good and he has no moves.

Is he a bad player? Of course not, but the Bulls offense, particularly with this new version of Derrick Rose, is wasting too many possessions giving shots to a guy that doesn’t make shots.

His offense needs to be relegated to dunks, tip-ins and trailing fast breaks. He should also be used to pass out of the high post, on occasion.

by dakoose on Jan 8, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's a good point. I don't know if these calls for Noah on the post is something Thibs

designed or if it’s Noah doing it on his own, but it needs to stop. It’s painful watching him trying to back down someone wasting time off the clock or turning the ball over. Hopefully they stop this sooner rather then later.

On the J.R. Smith bandwagon until otherwise advised.

by BlackStar on Jan 8, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Rose and the offense has nothing to do with the way he has been playing.

He was posted up alot last season and he averaged around 14-15 points in the beginning of the season. He’s not playing with the same intensity, heart, passion, focus and drive. He used to be the one who provided all the elements on a nightly basis, now in so many games the bulls really have to search for those intangibles. He really hasn’t been the same every since coming back from that last season, hopefully he can regain his mojo.

by Slick Ric on Jan 8, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I don't think he's lacking heart or passion or any of those things

I think he’s just in his own head a little bit. You hear him talking about basketball IQ all the time, and he’s probably overthinking things as a result. It looks to me like he’s always trying to make the “right” play, as opposed to just reacting like he might have in the past

I think that Heat series was a wake up call, and he probably knows that unless he switches things up a bit, they’re gonna have similar problems against Miami this year. His heart is in the right place, but it’s leading to some pretty lackluster performances at times.

I’m not sure he’ll ever have that Jason Kidd like mental game. It’s probably something just comes naturally

Sadly, my self worth is almost entirely based upon the outcome of the previous night's Bulls game.

by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 8, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Well put

I’ve been thinking this too, it feels like he’s trying to figure something out.

by JockstrapNoah on Jan 8, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

well, slick ric was talking about Noah...

but to your point about Rose, I have to blame Thibs a bit. Do the Bulls want superstar Rose or do they want equal opportunity Rose? In the quest to make Rose an all around player we shouldn’t sacrifice what made him special. I want Rose averaging at least 23 ppg. That is what the Bulls need to be at their best. It seems like every game starts out with the Noah and Boozer show. Which sort of explains why we are always falling behind.

by Basketball Smurf on Jan 8, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Oops, you're right

Sadly, my self worth is almost entirely based upon the outcome of the previous night's Bulls game.

by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 8, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

nothings wrong with him

he hit his ceiling. we didnt deal him. gave him a massive contract that we are stuck with now and hes living the good life. why does he need to hustle his ass off now?

Should've traded for Melo.

by sin on Jan 9, 2012 1:24 AM CST up reply actions  

When is CJ coming back? I haven't head a timetable on his return

JLIII has been better than expected, but I’d still rather have CJ out there.

by Basketball Smurf on Jan 8, 2012 10:39 AM CST reply actions  

Said his sling is off

Should be able to return to practice this week

by KCinIL on Jan 8, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Bulls need Rip back

When Rose struggles, Rip is a better option than Deng to pickup the slack. Not because Deng isn’t great, but Rip is the better shot creator both for himself and for others. Really need him back 100% before Miami at the end of the month. Luckily, we can survive without him until then., although our record will suffer.

"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight

by DRose01 on Jan 8, 2012 10:50 AM CST reply actions  

I'm sure he'll be back for the HUGE matchup with Detroit on Monday

Sadly, my self worth is almost entirely based upon the outcome of the previous night's Bulls game.

by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 8, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes Sir!

He had to give those 5,000 Pistons fan what they paid to see.

by Basketball Smurf on Jan 8, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

he needs to keep his emotions in check

i know playing in detroit meant alot to him, but hes on the bulls now and hes need to be smart about his injuries.

by Geo4MVP on Jan 8, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay, I'm tired of you guys giving Rip shif for this

It’s not the player’s decision to medically clear himself. It’s up to the medical staff to determine whether or not Rip can play. They did, and unfortunately, Rip tweaked the injury. Sometimes shit like that happens, but if you’re going to blame anyone, it’s gotta be the trainers.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Jan 8, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's bullshit

With a pull like that (or a “tweak”, as Rip referred to it), the trainers are almost entirely reliant on what the player tells them. It’s not like there’s a tear, or a break, and they can actually see what’s going on. They can watch him in shootaround to see how he’s moving on it, but if he is (let’s say) 90% healthy (it’s not like he’s “injured”), then it shouldn’t be too hard to look good in those drills

There needs to be communication between the trainers and Rip, but Rip will be the one that has to come out and say, “Feels great, I think I can go”, or “No, it’s still a little tight, let’s wait this thing out”. The bottom line is that Rip likely told them he was good to go, and feeling better, when he really wasn’t. And while I can somewhat understand him wanting to play in that game, I think he really hurt the team in doing so. So yeah, it will continue to bug me a little bit.

Sadly, my self worth is almost entirely based upon the outcome of the previous night's Bulls game.

by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 8, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

To add to that

Here are direct quotes from Rip (link):

“There was no way I was going to sit out that game,” he said Friday after the team’s shootaround. "The adrenaline alone (made me feel like): ‘You’re good.’ I don’t care who would tell me how hurt I was. I was playing regardless.
“The groin is crazy,” he said. “It’s one of those things that can be nagging. I thought I was good and ready to come back. But nobody could have kept me off that floor anyway. Damn, I was going to play.”

It doesn’t really sound like the trainers had (or would have) a lot to do with his decision to play or not.

by bryield on Jan 8, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I saw those quotes

And those statements are simply false. If the training staff had felt that Rip was unable to play, they could’ve, should’ve and would’ve held him out.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Jan 8, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

i agree, and i said that before too

also in regards to the communication b/t rip and the trainers, the first quote actually indicates to me that he actually was convinced he was feeling better, and not like lying to the training staff in order to play. and then since the adrenaline was carrying him, he def wasn’t all the way there and tweaked it.

this whole thing doesn’t bother me.

Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.

by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST

by Jaina on Jan 8, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

the first quote actually indicates to me that he actually was convinced he was feeling better

Yeah, but what’s he gonna say, “No, I wasn’t really feeling ready, but I pushed it so that I could play against my old team”?

I think if you look at the whole picture, it’s fairly obvious what happened. He didn’t play for a couple games prior to that one, and he hasn’t played since. He also went on record and said he wasn’t going to miss that game. How much more evidence do you need?

Like I said before, I’m still not that mad at him. I think it’s kind of understandable. I don’t think it’s necessarily “selfish”, just short sighted. But I also think it’s ridiculous to put any blame on the trainers. As I said before, with this type of issue, they’re basing a majority of their treatment on what Rip tells them. And if anything, they should probably be mad at him, because he likely put them in a position to look bad.

Sadly, my self worth is almost entirely based upon the outcome of the previous night's Bulls game.

by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 8, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think it's a HUGE deal, either

but I’m also not going to pretend that Rip didn’t (perhaps selfishly) force the issue with trainers to play against a crappy Detroit team. Either way, I hope he recovers soon.

by bryield on Jan 8, 2012 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah i mean i just don't think he intentionally lied is all

i think he probably convinced himself he was ok to play.

Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.

by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST

by Jaina on Jan 8, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not a doctor, so I don't want to speculate too much but...

They’re professionals. They should be able to properly diagnose the extent of the injury and determine whether or not Rip’s good to go. The ball should never be in the player’s court with this stuff. Because if Rip had held himself out, he opens himself up to being called a wimp for not toughing it out and playing.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Jan 8, 2012 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the situation is more nuanced than you're making it out to be

You cannot just say “It’s a medical situation, so blame the doctors”

Sadly, my self worth is almost entirely based upon the outcome of the previous night's Bulls game.

by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 8, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Perhaps

But I think you’re taking Rip’s statement at face value when it’s very possible he said that just to enhance his “tough guy rep”.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Jan 8, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

The only thing I find discouraging about yesterday's game

is that the Hawks have basically dominated us for 7 of the 8 quarters we’ve played them. Were it not for what went down at the UC last week, I would just dismiss this as a REALLY hot shooting night by a team that we should handle fairly easily in the playoffs. Now I’m a bit more concerned, but not all that much.

Sadly, my self worth is almost entirely based upon the outcome of the previous night's Bulls game.

by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 8, 2012 11:10 AM CST reply actions  

they were pretty much two totally different circumstances

at the UC, neither team shot well at all. i mean it wasn’t like their 38 points in the first half was world beating either. our shooting wasn’t THAT bad last night… but when radmanovic goes 5-5 from 3… you’re in trouble.

Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.

by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST

by Jaina on Jan 8, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

They're one of those teams that matchup pretty well with us

In not that worried considering the fatigue and amount of road games this far

by Option27 on Jan 8, 2012 12:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Noah doesn't play well against his buddy, it seems

I’m not very concerned because I think they are the same team as last year’s, maybe worse. But I still don’t wanna face them in the playoffs this year.

by JustAnotherFan on Jan 9, 2012 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

How many more games before we should really worry about Noah and Boozer?

That second quarter when Taj and Asik were in the game the bulls made a nice comeback, Taj was being aggressive around the hoop. Asik wasn’t allowing too many easy buckets around the basket. Booz and Noah come back in and then the bulls are down by 17 or whatever the score was. I don’t know if it was just coincidence or a real problem, but I hope Thibs leaves Taj and Asik in longer before the game gets out of hand again.

On the J.R. Smith bandwagon until otherwise advised.

by BlackStar on Jan 8, 2012 11:19 AM CST reply actions  

souleater?

OH, you mean JIMMY Butler!

THEO!

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jan 8, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Any meaningful minutes for Butler would be awesome.

But the lineup I’d like to see is: Watson – Brewer – Butler – Taj – Asik

I’d like to see what that bench mob lineup would look like. Defensively stout I’d imagine.

by JockstrapNoah on Jan 8, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Only plus from ATL game

Korver played great. Say what you want about Taj and Omer, but he brought us back into the game. His range was able to break the zone and those 5 assists are real nice. I love that play where he curls off a screen, receives the pass and then either shoots or drops a pass into the post.

by dp8292 on Jan 8, 2012 11:32 AM CST reply actions  

It'll be interesting to see what happens with the minutes when Rip comes back

Korver has shown that he deserves to be out there. He does things that no one else on this team can really do. I think Ronnie may have to take a reduced role. Or Thibs may have to drop Lu’s minutes (which will never happen)

Sadly, my self worth is almost entirely based upon the outcome of the previous night's Bulls game.

by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 8, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

its a good problem to have and thibs may keep rip out till the celtics vs bulls matchup

korver has been dead on and we need korver to be good in order to do well in the playoffs.

by Geo4MVP on Jan 8, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Korver did this last year

He has those 5-6 games in a row where he just CAN’T miss….and then he goes back to his normal 2-6 for 6 pts.

Have to take advantage of when he’s hot.

"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.

by Brigade17 on Jan 8, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

When your team sucks sooooo badly in one game

It’s easy to say to yourself, ‘That didn’t happen. We would never play that uninspired.’
That’s what I’m doing right now. I am hiding in my house until tonight’s game, because there is no WAY that actually happened.

"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.

by Brigade17 on Jan 8, 2012 1:26 PM CST reply actions  

Lol

One day you feel like you're on top of the world when you beat the Lakers and then the next night you lose against Golden State. - Joakim Noah

by chicity773 on Jan 8, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh...still a bit hungover from New Year's it seems

"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.

by Brigade17 on Jan 8, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Just one of those games where not much goes right, unfortunately

The loss to the Hawks was the Bulls’ only game since at least the ‘85-’86 season where they allowed the opponent at least 31 assists, to go along with at least 15 steals and at least 5 blocks, all in the same game.

The Hawks’ 75% three point FG shooting was only the second time since the ‘85-’86 season that a Bulls’ opponent shot 75% or better from long range, with a minimum of ten attempts.

Derrick Rose had arguably his worst career game, as he had never before had a game where he scored in single digits on 30% FG shooting or worse along with at least five turnovers.

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by Mike from Illinois on Jan 8, 2012 1:51 PM CST reply actions  

No way.
Just one of those games where not much goes right, unfortunately

It’s one thing to miss shots, but the starters came out lazy, stupid and careless. Rose had stupid turnovers, Noah was doing all sorts of stupid things, Boozer….well he was just being Booz. The starters effort was horseshit, and they lost the game.

by dakoose on Jan 8, 2012 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it's somewhere in between

Starters were awful, but poor defense or not, Hawks shot the lights out. Hell, radmonovich would be hard pressed to hit those exact sames shots at the rate he did in shooting practice.

"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight

by DRose01 on Jan 8, 2012 2:36 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Switch out Boozer for Taj

and Radmonovic would be hard pressed to hit those shots, cause Taj can actually offer defense outside of the paint.

by JockstrapNoah on Jan 8, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

I also seen Jo a few times near him too. And he was always to damn so to close him out for some reason…

"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"

by T.Moore on Jan 8, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

That sounded like not much went right to me.

Bulls sucked, Hawks got hot at the right time due to our sucking. They will correct their shit and play better…Nice to be 7-2 heading to 3 games in a row at least the starters has some needed rest for that

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"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"

by T.Moore on Jan 8, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed that the starters played awful

Over the course of a long season though, every team is going to have at least a few bad games like this. It’s just bound to happen.

Obviously, the key is to limit those bad games to few and far between.

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by Mike from Illinois on Jan 8, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

they started shooting 9-12 from 3

That is definitely an outlier Stat and compounded with the team fatigue further illustrated that it was just one of those games.

I have no fear of losing to Atlanta in a 7 game series.

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by RogersPark Kris on Jan 8, 2012 2:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

But the odds of going 9-12 from distance are higher

when the shooters are wide open than when they’re covered. It wasn’t just luck, the Bulls defense was terrible and gave up wide open looks.

by dakoose on Jan 8, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

mainly due to fatigue

but ur right, leave em open and most likely they will hit around that percentage. However, I believe fatigue was the main reason for their lackluster effort and play against the hawks.

by Geo4MVP on Jan 8, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

in regards to the bulls being 7-2

yeah they’re on pace to being 49-14 but honestly? they’ve played 2 home games. i find it to be more likely that they’ll have something like 51 or 52 wins by then considering that. if they somehow went undefeated at home up until that point that would be 31 wins, and then on pace to have 22 or 23 wins on the road. doubt that would happen but i feel good about the chances to have more than 50 wins with 3 games remaining.

Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.

by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST

by Jaina on Jan 8, 2012 2:05 PM CST reply actions  

(i say undefeated since they are undefeated at home now lol)

Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.

by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST

by Jaina on Jan 8, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

4 games against miami still to come

But ya, the road hurts.

"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight

by DRose01 on Jan 8, 2012 2:32 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

still, i'd argue that 7 away games so far still helps

as i said, i certainly am not expecting them to keep this exact ratio, but it’s not like all those miami games are home.

Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.

by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST

by Jaina on Jan 8, 2012 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

This may be complete blasphemy, but...

Jimmy B vs Pippen, both rookies at 22.

Hurray for small sample size :D

"Shame he’s such a goofy fuckface."
-JBJ, referring to Dwight Howard

by SidM on Jan 9, 2012 12:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I forgot to mention

take a look at the per36min stats

"Shame he’s such a goofy fuckface."
-JBJ, referring to Dwight Howard

by SidM on Jan 9, 2012 12:43 AM CST up reply actions  

great awesome recap my ninja lol

The Bulls managed to send their Saturday opponents to the line only six times (!!!) and still allowed 109 points; they out-rebounded The ATL 43-31 and frickin’ lost. (Read that again if you can’t believe it yourself.)

^
This did trip me out tho

by Belize on Jan 8, 2012 4:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

im not worried about the fact that the Bulls got beat by Miami, but i am pissed because

*James-less, Wade-less Heat beat the Hawks
*The Hawks were on the 3rd night of a back-to-back-to-back
*The Heat won, and we are now behind them in the standings and they could be tough to catch

by kpd on Jan 8, 2012 4:50 PM CST reply actions  

The Hawks are a very inconsistent team...

One night they could lose to the Cavs, then the next night they beat the Heat without Joe Johnson. They could be a top tier team if they focused every night and didn’t run endless iso’s. When they’re clicking, they’re good.

THEO!

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jan 8, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

+ 200 (why I chose that number I have no clue)

Well said wrigleyrocker. I’m definitely disappointed with this game but I don’t think that you will see a stat line like that again. If we are on the short end of the game against Detroit I will be concerned.

48 minutes of intensity

by dsenchi on Jan 8, 2012 5:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't worry about catching the Heat

we can do this by beating the Heat. And if we don’t, welll, the least of your worries should be if we catch them or not

by JustAnotherFan on Jan 9, 2012 9:06 AM CST up reply actions  

BTW, besides for the photo caption being both true and funny,

it’s also recyclable. It can be applied to damn near every picture we see of Boozer this season.

by dakoose on Jan 8, 2012 5:58 PM CST reply actions  

I want to have faith in Noah...

… cause it seems like we are merely asking him to rebound both ways, contest shots, move the ball & finish at the rim. And, it seems like it shouldn’t be hard for him to dial that in (or pull it back, however you look at it.)

But I had to laugh and cringe at this from the ESPN recap…
" The young center’s eyes were red with anger as he twisted the small hairs on his goatee." I’ve seen those eyes, too and I guess they were red with anger from the tip-off of game one, as he literally looks burnt this year!

I hope that a guy like Noah needs the preseason to get his funky game sharp.

(Boozer, on the other hand, is a proven offensive pro with seemingly unruly pride. I expect him to work it out and be on the plus this year. *I still don’t know why he didn’t dunk that ball…)

Taj MaBall

by inkybreath on Jan 8, 2012 8:35 PM CST reply actions  

"merely asking him to rebound both ways, contest shots, move the ball & finish at the rim"

There aren’t that many players in this league who can “merely” do those things. I’m all for expecting more out of Noah, but at the same time, let’s realize that if he does meet those expectations, he’ll be playing at a very high level.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Jan 9, 2012 12:39 AM CST up reply actions  

I know the way I phrased that was...

rather assumptive…

But, it is not a stretch to say that he was natural progressing on all those fronts (with finishing at the rim being the last bastion?)

I guess I am saying that with a qualified 2 guard and a shooty-pants PF, we don’t need to stretch Noah into making 17 foot jumpers and the like. We need him to focus on the things that he always seemed to focus on…

Taj MaBall

by inkybreath on Jan 9, 2012 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

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