Dwight Howard discusses possibility of joining Bulls (that's us!)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 30, 2012 10:36 AM CST
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PrintIf I could play with Derrick right now and God wanted that to happen, it will happen...It's about wherever God wants me to play, wants me to go. If that's Chicago, then it's Chicago. It has nothing to do with Adidas, In fact Adidas would love that because me and Derrick have the same (marketing) guy.'
In conclusion: Gar Forman is potentially God.
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He has never put the Bulls on his lists of teams he would like to get traded to. This seems to me like he is placating a local writer. If he wants to play with Derrick he can force the issue but he really doesn’t so he won’t.
They can save the world if they don't kill each other first.
by squadron supreme on Jan 29, 2012 6:55 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
and neither does Derrick, apparently.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 29, 2012 6:56 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Derrick
can’t be vocal about acquiring a player the magnitude of Howard and still ask Noah to play hard and rebound. He can’t ask Deng to play give it his all for 40 minutes a night when the leader of the team doesn’t think you’re good enough. In the end it isn’t up to Rose to force the issue its purely Howard’s. Either he forces a trade to where he wants to go or he goes their through free agency.
They can save the world if they don't kill each other first.
by squadron supreme on Jan 29, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah i mean
dwight getting all pissy about his teammates and shit, when he’s made it clear he doesn’t want to be there… why give effort for someone who doesn’t want to play with you. makes sense with his “rollin with keith” comment too. no need to alienate who you got…
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Dumb people need to stop defending rose
He should’ve been recruiting and he should be doing it now
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
How
Did all that recruiting go for the Knicks? Melo and Stoudemire can’t play together. Chris Paul ended up with the Clippers another Knick “recruit”.
They can save the world if they don't kill each other first.
by squadron supreme on Jan 29, 2012 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
when has anyone recruited anyone besides Wade recruiting Lebron and Bosh
and those guys were good friends.
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 29, 2012 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Uh Kobe and Raja Bell, duh.
It’s like you’re saying that Raja Bell had zero impact on the 2011 playoffs or something.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jan 29, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
im sorry but i just wouldve liked to have at least seen rose come out and publicly state that he wanted lebron and dwade to come here and win a title with him
he didnt back then and hes again not doing it. it really is borderline arrogance if rose really think he doesnt need any help to win a title
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
I love the arrogance from him
Mostly because he believes in himself and is not just cocky. And he has the talent to back it up.
If you think it's 'arrogance' in the slightest
then you’re ignorant of human emotions and psychology.
"How dare you mock this buxom wench!"
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jan 30, 2012 7:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
its not really arrogance
and its just plain embarrassing to admit to the fans you don’t think you or the team is good enough to win.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Jan 31, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Have you ever thought that he won't do it because he doesn't want Dwights screw around attitude on a team of hard workers?
Honestly.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jan 30, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
I feel like if Dwight come's here,
it’s gonna be on DRose’s terms. They’re gonna tell him it’s DRose’s team if you wanna be here, you gotta get with the program and quit fucking around. No more EKG paddles if you’re a Bull; you gotta put away the cape, put on your hard hat, bring your lunch pail and punch your ticket.
I don't know if that will work.
This team has such great chemistry and similar personalities of “work my ass off and fuck shit up.” I honestly believe DRose isn’t recruiting because he doesn’t want to screw that up. He likes his team, and he knows there’s no room for egos.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jan 30, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
When I look at DRose, Kyle, Brewer, Deng, Taj, Omer and Luol,
I definitely see the hard-working, intense attitude that you’re talking about. With Joakim, I see that on the floor but at the same time I see him out there winded late in games, but he’s changed his body quite a bit over the last two years, so I guess he’s got that attitude to.
But then I look at Carlos Motherfucking Boozer and I see a dog, and if this team can get along with this screaming, head shaking fake-ass hustler who doesn’t play defense and doesn’t really bring it when the games matter, they’ll definitely be able to fit in a persona like Dwight, who’s carried his team to the finals and has been carrying a team loaded with overpaid, over the hill bums for a few years now. Plus, I think the Bulls can kind of reign in Dwight’s comedy club routine being that there’s nobody on the Bulls who does that stuff, so Dwight won’t have a partner like he does in Orlando with Glen Davis.
by dakoose on Jan 30, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I know you hate Boozer, and you probably know that I like him...
But if you really think it’s a lack of hustle/trying, then I would like to say you’re wrong. I think you’re clouded by your hate of him. His problems stem far from a lack of hustle or hard work, and it’s already been shown that these guys get along with him, so there’s something there.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jan 30, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
Watch that fast break where he swipes at Wade before the dunk
and tell me he was busting his ass on the fast break. His legs were barely churning, it was pathetic.
it's not really rose's job to recruit anyone
we shouldn’t have to beg anyone to come here..if he doesn’t want to be here and win championships than that’s on him.
i can confirm without a doubt that gar forman is god
OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD
Just wee-un.
If he wont sign with us, why should we take the risk
Its not like we’re the 6ers or the Pacers or Hawks. We are an elite team, Dwight is on a shitty team right now he needs us more than we need him. The only way I and anyone else ahould take him is if he agrees to resign with us. To blow up a potentally championship caliber team it grab and he doesn’t stay with us, then we’re fucking screwed and it would be looked at a dumbass trade. Its all about him signing with us
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Better yet
someone put a picture of Gar’s head on the ‘Buddy Christ’ figurine.
"How dare you mock this buxom wench!"
- William Regal defending Vickie Guerrero.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jan 30, 2012 1:05 AM CST up reply actions
Meh. At this point, I'm not too excited.
Sounds more like a play to pump the market up more than anything. Come next week he’ll realize Lebron James is the kind of guy he can win a championship with.
Yawn. Tell me when something shows up/leaks out from inside our org. I don’t trust word one of anything this guy says.
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by Locust_Inferno_666 on Jan 29, 2012 6:58 PM CST reply actions
just an aside
any deal for howard, most likely ships out deng and noah, and makes us keep boozer……just think about that for a second, especially after todays game….just think about it
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just thought about it
rose + dwight = lots of nice shiny things for years to come
by shutupdrogba on Jan 29, 2012 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
i would love to keep him but think about it
we barely lost to miami today without deng. replace noah with howard…..oh my lord
by shutupdrogba on Jan 29, 2012 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
Keep Deng and Hamilton as well as Rose and we win this year.
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
Deng and Rip
Have already struggled with injuries, and it’s clear that Rose’s toe problem will bother him all year.
If we can trade a hurt Deng and Noah for the NBA’s best center and one of it’s best players, and maybe win this year… you have to do it.
That said, I’ll probably buy a Deng Magic jersey and start watching more Magic games, because I love Deng and Noah and they are a pleasure to root for.
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As an aside, any deal for Howard gets us DWIGHT HOWARD
Yes, the most dominant big-man in the game to go with the best PG in the game. As much as I love Luol, I think I’ll get over it.
Double team Rose? Not anymore! He will just jump and lob it to the rim, where Dwight will be donning his Superman cape
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
thats his plan for his 9th offseason
all summer learning to lob
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Feb 3, 2012 2:51 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
give him someone who can jump AND catch and I think he can figure it out
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
If we could get Dwight without giving up Deng that would be a huge win.
This isn’t happening in any case unless Dwight puts Bulls on the list of teams he’ll sign an extention with.
Get ready for that 7th banner Chicago...it's '90-'91 all over again!
maybe with Mirotic, Bobcats picks and our first rounders we may find a way to keep Deng
maybe
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 29, 2012 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
I love where Dengs game has grown to
But man one year is not enough for me to go ahead and think his bs injuries are behind him. Thibs is gonna kill him.
I think we should give up players and keep assets that can refresh our title hopes if we stall out in three years.
No freaking way
Mirotic is a X factor coming over. If we stay put he will be key in us making a run for a championship. 3 players I don’t want to give up Rose, Deng, and Mirotic.
Noah, Korver, Gibson, Charlotte pick for Dwight.
add in Hamilton or Ronnie if they are stingy.
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
he was just mad at the time
vxmcclure23 vaughn mcclure
For those of you asking, I interviewed Dwight after fridays loss at New Orleans. Short version of interview on back page of Sunday Tribune.
I think Thibs would turn Howard into the most dominant defensive center ever. He is amazing now, but can you imagine the things Thibs would design as him as the defensive cornerstone?
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
If its not the shoe deal
Why wouldnt He want to come to the team that sits 1st place on the NBA ladder? I mean his still going to get his money …Why doesnt he want to come to CHicago?
Why? Why can't he come to Chicago???
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 29, 2012 7:18 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
If I'm Garpax, I take that as a clear sign to make a trade with the Magic
even if we’re not on his stupid ass list. It’s obvious that this guy really doesn’t know what he wants. If they have balls, they’d do it. Buuuut they don’t so they won’t. All this is gonna do is anger me for the next month or two
(also hilarious how the Bears beat writer gets the scoopage)
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 29, 2012 7:16 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
I bet it factored in, but he didn't say "look, it won't happen"
holding out hope!
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
Hey guys
its not happening
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
whatever that means
vxmcclure23 vaughn mcclure
He sounds open to the idea of being traded to the Bulls, although that’s still a longshot. Howard said he “loves” Rose.
I love my mom and I'd trade her for Dwight Howard.
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 29, 2012 7:22 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
I would too, but I already traded my mom for Rasual Butler last year :(
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 29, 2012 7:24 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Dwight is a douchebag troll
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
by T.Moore on Jan 29, 2012 7:23 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Lets bombard this asshole with tweets later
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 29, 2012 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
that's it
Noah, Charlotte pick, Bulls pick, Taj, Brewer and Korver. Thank you for your service guys. Taj and Noah I’ve grown to like, no love you. But its Dwight. Its like having a shot at Natalie Portman. The wife understands.
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 29, 2012 7:24 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I'd trade the entire team to pair Rose with Dwight
I don’t care if we don’t make it out of the first round this year. They would terrorize the league
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 29, 2012 7:25 PM CST up reply actions
No no - I would hang on to JLIII
That way Thibs could run a play wherein JLIII sits atop Howard’s shoulders to be all Voltron-y and score a bunch of points… yea… that.
by bryield on Jan 29, 2012 7:28 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I could do that!
played baseball forever, so I could catch it when it’s tossed my way!
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
Best game ever, by the way.
"How dare you mock this buxom wench!"
- William Regal defending Vickie Guerrero.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Feb 1, 2012 12:20 AM CST up reply actions
I wanted him to Johnny Cage Lebron
He’s short enough to do it w/o splitting
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Good god man, please find a hotter/more talented actress to compare Howard with.
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 29, 2012 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
the point is, I'd dump my wife in a second.
she understands.
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 29, 2012 7:28 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
she may understand, but she'll make sure to take everything you have....wait
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
Alright, now after you've gotten excited
re-read those quotes, only imagine Dwight saying them with his goofy troll ass smile.
See, it doesn’t seem nearly as realistic now
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 29, 2012 7:30 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
you, sir, are not helping
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
I'm going to keep dreaming
since I think this is the one thing Miami is afraid of in the Eastern Conference. I don’t think they’re scared of the Bulls as constructed (which doesn’t mean the Bulls can’t beat them in the playoffs), but they may soil themselves at the thought of having to go up against Rose-Howard for several years.
Nene?
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
by T.Moore on Jan 29, 2012 7:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
you know what's short for hilarious? funny. 2 syllables
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
I'll trade anyone but Rose and take bad contracts like Hedo
as long as the stupid defibrillator is not included in the trade
god?? what a joke...
he didn’t mention god when he talked about joining the lakers or the nets… suddendly when it comes to the bulls he’s all spiritual… i dont think god cares if it’s rose or kobe throwing lobs to howard…
This is nothing new for Magic fans
It seems like every week, there’s a new team that gets mentioned that Howard could possibly be traded to.
The distraction is starting to get to be too much for the Magic, with the Magic getting embarrassed in four games in the last week following tonight’s blowout loss at home to the Pacers.
Howard called out his teammates after the New Orleans loss Friday night, but he has very little if any credibility left with his teammates because of his trade requests.
I’m a huge Howard fan, but before he calls out anybody, he has to do something about his dreadful FT%, which was at 47.8% for the season before tonight’s 4 of 15 FT shooting.
Maybe God can help Howard with his free throw shooting.
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by Mike from Illinois on Jan 29, 2012 7:36 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
how sustainable is depth though over the next 5 years?
the bulls will likely have to reload on bench talent soon and they might not be so lucky next time (see: dumars, joe and smith,otis).
"We would look at each other with a glint of recognition and one of us would say, 'So you worry about ASIK, too,' as if admitting a secret vice. Then we would share our crazy ideas-- because all ideas about ASIK that are not immediately wrong turn out to be crazy."
GarPax don't need no stinking luck...they've got mad skills.
Get ready for that 7th banner Chicago...it's '90-'91 all over again!
But OMG...we'd have DWIGHT!!!
Really though, I think we could make the best offer for Dwight and still have plenty left to help Derrick and Dwight out. Only if he agrees to sign an extention with the Bulls beforehand though… and he still has never said he’d agree to that.
Get ready for that 7th banner Chicago...it's '90-'91 all over again!
that's exactly it
Don’t rip apart the bench mob, Noah and Deng, for half of an already shortened season for Rent-a-Dwight. It he will sign an extension, then get it done.
"Whenever one finds himself in the majority, it is time to step back and reflect," Mark Twain.
by WindisBlowingOut! on Jan 30, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
see what i meant in the thread a few days ago?
there really are people here who won’t give up our guys for the SECOND BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
i never said that
all i said was that there were a number of people who have this view that our team is so valuable and cant be touched or chemistry will fall apart or blah blah blah
(i know i singled you out incorrectly and that i take back)
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
He's got to agree to re-sign with us FIRST.
Otherwise it would be madness to trade the assets we’d need to to get him.
Get ready for that 7th banner Chicago...it's '90-'91 all over again!
He needs to give his word that he'll resign
Otherwise if he doesn’t we’re screwed and I will blame you
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Wow, you were right.
People here really won’t shake shit up to get Dwight. SMH…..I don’t really care if the Bulls end up trotting out DRose, Dwight and a bunch of role players, having those two puts us ahead of the Heat going forwards, in my opinion. Best PG and best C in the world, greatest defense of all time with Thibs getting his hands on the best defender in the universe.
Needs to know if he'll resign with us
If he doesn’t I wont get him
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Yeah but you say so much stupid shit, the few good nuggets get drowned out.
by metalkiwis on Jan 30, 2012 7:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, it really depends on who the Bulls have to give up to get him...
Howard is the best center in basketball but his post game is not all that reliable imo and not just because his missed free throws. He has improved with it last year (a lot of years in the league though to just be getting better at it), but he does not have good touch on those short turnarounds, hooks, ect. and still has to rely on brute strength to get to the rim. If a team has a big center that can even give him fits with that so his impact will be mainly on the defensive end. Noah already does a good job with boards and blocking shots so Howard will be an upgrade there, but at what cost assuming Noah is part of the deal along with some others.
Also, this is Rose’s team. Will he be willing to share the spotlight with Howard and vice versa and neither worry about who’s team it is? Man not even be an issue, but both are among the best in the league and both have been the man for the respective franchises. I don’t think Kobe even at his advanced age would defer to Howard even to the point of just being equals. It could be an issue.
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*May not even be an issue....
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Rose isn't that kind of guy IMHO
Personality-wise I wonder more about Howard’s willingness to accept having to keep his emotions in check on the floor…because Thibs would NOT deal with anything of the sort. Rose to me seems like one of the easiest players in the world to play with, ego-wise.
In the short term, maybe.
If the Bulls traded several players for Howard this season, they could kill their chance to win a title this year — but set themselves up for multiple titles in the future. It would be worth it, but we would need a guaranteed extension of Howard’s contract first.
i dunno about him
The talent is unquestionable but he’s such a jackass
by MartyMondays on Jan 29, 2012 7:43 PM CST via mobile reply actions
but imagine us losing by a bucker to the heat in the playoffs
And Howard is laughing and making jokes. Rose and Thibs would FLIP.
by MartyMondays on Jan 29, 2012 7:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
he wasn't laughing much the other night
Or all the other times he’s been eliminated.
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
And now imagine
Lebron, wade, and bosh crying in the locker room after being eliminated by Derrick and Howard
at least its hockey season now
by comebackkirk12 on Jan 30, 2012 6:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I can guarantee you if Howard was smiling like an idoit, Thibs would fix that.
Howard isn’t the media jackal that Lebron is, if Howard comes here, he is going to play hard and be serious during the season.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Jan 31, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
Not as much as those tools in Miami
So, viewing through that lens, I’m up for getting Howard since it means giving the Bulls a better chance at beating them.
not just talent; durability too. dude is genuinely indestructible.
"We would look at each other with a glint of recognition and one of us would say, 'So you worry about ASIK, too,' as if admitting a secret vice. Then we would share our crazy ideas-- because all ideas about ASIK that are not immediately wrong turn out to be crazy."
by TheMoon on Jan 29, 2012 7:45 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
He's tied for 2nd in techs so far this season
Thibs can beat that habit out of him though…in about 2 practices
kidding me?
As soon as Dwight gets off the plane, him and Thibs are going to have a meeting in a secluded room. Thibs will bring out his pistol, lay it on the table, and say “will we have any problems?”
Dwight will not have another technical or showboat antic while he is a bull.
by Nih1lus on Jan 30, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Okay this bothers me
No Dwight, it’s not what God wants to happen, it’s what you want to happen. You literally hold all the cards here. There’s not a team in the league that wouldn’t love to have you. It’s ultimately going to come down to where you want to go.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jan 29, 2012 8:14 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Dwight to me
Is a bloddy idiot…
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
reminds me of the egypt episode of futurama
where the egyptian dudes use the wall of prophecy to relieve them of the thought and responsibility of picking a new pharaoh
Just wee-un.
by jesus christos on Jan 29, 2012 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
youre dumb
dont you get it? dwight wants you to realize he IS god!
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
by sin on Jan 29, 2012 8:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
and as every guy like that
talks in the third person
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 29, 2012 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
Translation
“I really don’t want to go to Chicago but if they are really interested and I can’t get a deal to go somewhere that I want, then I’ll take it.”
Joakim on whether he ever tried tennis: "I played a little bit. If anybody on the Bulls wanted to play me, I would kick their ass."
"I hate my teammates so much, I would even consider going to Chicago!
I mean, I really hate them right now. But, you know, I might calm down tomorrow."
by Tim S. on Jan 30, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
::reading off notecards from adidas::
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
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by Fukudometer on Jan 30, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 9 recs
I think we can take it as legit
As far as I can tell, Vaughn McClure is a pretty respectable reporter for the Trib. There’s no mention of “anonymous sources” or anything like that. It’s 100% “Dwight told me…”. So this is straight from the horse’s mouth, unless McClure’s flat-out lying.
Pat Riley is the devil.
Which would you rather....
Noah, Boozer, and two 1st rounders (including Charlotte’s) for Howard, Turkoglu and Anderson OR gambling on the Magic calling Howard’s bluff and not trade him, and then the Bulls amnestying Boozer and signing Howard in his place?
Rose, Rip, Deng/Turkoglu, Anderson/Taj and Howard/Omer
or Rose/Watson, Rip/Brewer, Deng/Korver, Noah/Anderson/Gibson, Howard/Omer
((Drool))
by streamsowhiskey on Jan 29, 2012 10:13 PM CST reply actions
There is no way Orlando would give us Howard AND Anderson.
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
by Dash2112 on Jan 29, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Even if the Bulls amnestied Boozer, they still wouldn't have enough cap room to sign Howard.
And if the Magic are willing to throw in Ryan Anderson too, you make that deal any day of the week.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jan 29, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
Then why haven't they extended him, smart guy?.
by streamsowhiskey on Jan 29, 2012 10:17 PM CST reply actions
I didn't mean Anderson i the second option, just Howard replacing Boozer...
by streamsowhiskey on Jan 29, 2012 10:18 PM CST reply actions
they will not trade him, regardless
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
Either way, it makes no sense to get rid of Boozer if you get Dwight
Out of the Bulls bigs, Boozer complements Dwight the best because he can hit an outside shot and help create space for Dwight to work inside.
by berzerkulous on Jan 29, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
honestly i dont think howard is the clown you guys are making him out to be
he seems like a genuinely good kid who doesnt really want to leave orlando and follow shaq’s footsteps but may have no choice because otis smith is a moron.
he seems to just be trying to keep the mood positive but its hard when your team sucks ass and its cause your gm is a moron
i really think the only thing hes really weighing is whether or not he wants out and not really what team he wants to go. at least not yet.
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
When I read this.
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
look, not everyone thinks howard is a clown, but rather, he needs to do a better job in his selection of potential teams
T-Mac for instance was even saying “you are fuckin crazy for not considering a bigass city like chicago” or something like that. Its true, alot of analysts and some players are just baffled why on earth would howard consider the nets as even one of his potential destinations. I know they have williams but after that its total crap or unknown (dont really know how good brooks is).
This part of the quote sticks out to me:
It has nothing to do with Adidas
What is “it?” Is “it”, him NOT including the Bulls as one of his desired destinations? That’s how I’m reading the quote. Looking at it that way, I’d really like to know what his reason(s) were for not including the Bulls on his list of teams he’d sign an extension with.
And Howard will be playing with Rose, in less than a month, in Orlando for the All-Star game (assuming both are healthy).
"Before the game, we all thought he’d get 20 (points)," Chicago’s Kyle Korver said. "We didn’t know he’d shoot 28." - speaking about JLIII
I think "it" refers to the whole situation in general
I think he’s saying that Adidas will have nothing to do with where he ends up.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jan 30, 2012 12:28 AM CST up reply actions
There is no god, Dwight. Shut up.
And I’m sick of see him on the Magic. Just get the damn trade overwith so I don’t have to hear about it anymore.
"How dare you mock this buxom wench!"
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jan 30, 2012 1:03 AM CST reply actions
It's a trick statement
He is saying he IS god!
“If I could play with Derrick right now and God wanted that to happen, it will happen,” Howard told the Tribune. "It has nothing to do with me not wanting to play with Derrick Rose. I love him. That’s my brother.’’
This quote really tells me that the Bulls should just trade for the guy if they have the offer Orlando wants. The shitty thing is that we’ll never know for sure if the Bulls gave it a shot or not, because they can just say that Orlando didn’t like the offer, or that Dwight insisted he wouldn’t re-sign.
Although I don’t see how the Bulls couldn’t make the best offer out of the reported teams. Bynum would be a great piece, but that’s all they’d get. We have Deng, Taj, Omer, Noah, Brewer/Korver expirings, Charlotte pick, Mirotic, other first rounders if necessary. I mean, we basically have every element necessary to help a team rebuild.
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 30, 2012 2:36 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
thanks God he didnt put the nuggets as one his potential interests.
those fuckers can offer andre miller, nene hilario, lawson etc. a numerous amount of combinations for Howard.
That is the team we should be worried about
In terms of what Orlando’s FO would want to receive in a trade
didnt paxson say hes monitering the whole hwoard situation
and there were numerous reports that the bulls were ready to offer a package for howard. I think paxson is gonna dive into this situation once again.
Knowing GarPax...
They’re overvaluing the players already. I wouldn’t be surprised if they wont even consider adding Deng to the deal. I hope getting beat by Miami somehow open their minds…er or mind since GarPax is considered as one entity.
Howard has been all over the place
He said he didn’t want to play someplace cold yet the Nets are on his list. He didn’t want to follow in Shaq’s footsteps yet the Lakers are on his list. He wants to be the man yet Dallas is on his list. He says all he wants to win yet the Bulls aren’t on his list. This is why the criticism of Rose not recruiting doesn’t make sense you can’t recruit someone whose a walking contradiction.
They can save the world if they don't kill each other first.
by squadron supreme on Jan 30, 2012 3:33 AM CST reply actions
i think he is open to good locations and good winning situations.
"We would look at each other with a glint of recognition and one of us would say, 'So you worry about ASIK, too,' as if admitting a secret vice. Then we would share our crazy ideas-- because all ideas about ASIK that are not immediately wrong turn out to be crazy."
Yeah
The Nets, GREAT chance of winning over there
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
oops. good loctions OR good winning situations.
"We would look at each other with a glint of recognition and one of us would say, 'So you worry about ASIK, too,' as if admitting a secret vice. Then we would share our crazy ideas-- because all ideas about ASIK that are not immediately wrong turn out to be crazy."
It's goint to be tough for Rose to let Noah go
“I’ll go to war with Derrick any day,” Noah said. " We have his back. And we’ll be back."
probably not since the only thing noah is howards better at is rhetoric, and thats not going to help beat miami.
"We would look at each other with a glint of recognition and one of us would say, 'So you worry about ASIK, too,' as if admitting a secret vice. Then we would share our crazy ideas-- because all ideas about ASIK that are not immediately wrong turn out to be crazy."
by TheMoon on Jan 30, 2012 6:44 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm banned too!
In all seriousness, they will probably ban you just for making a fanpost. The people over there aren’t too nice.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jan 30, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
also passing
woo point center
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
Someone should make a fanpost on Orlando Pin Striped
laying out what we’ve got, and asking them which team has the best offer. I’m curious if we’re just being homers, or if other fans think as highly of what we have as we do. I would do it, but I’m banned over there :(
Injuries. Fuck.
id have to imagine at least evan dunlap likes the bulls pieces a lot since hes always maintained rose
is way overrated, but somebody has to be responsible for a couple 60 win seasons.
"We would look at each other with a glint of recognition and one of us would say, 'So you worry about ASIK, too,' as if admitting a secret vice. Then we would share our crazy ideas-- because all ideas about ASIK that are not immediately wrong turn out to be crazy."
Thibs for Howard
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 30, 2012 8:53 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm banned too!
In all seriousness, they will probably ban you just for making a fanpost. The people over there aren’t too nice.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jan 30, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
dunlap is a super douche and an old lady.
"We would look at each other with a glint of recognition and one of us would say, 'So you worry about ASIK, too,' as if admitting a secret vice. Then we would share our crazy ideas-- because all ideas about ASIK that are not immediately wrong turn out to be crazy."
As much as this is all true, don't jump the gun to trade EVERY asset this team has for Howard
The Bulls can still offer the best deal without giving up Mirotic or the Charlotte pick.
If they’re gonna gut the team for Dwight, they’re gonna need ways to build around him
by Option27 on Jan 30, 2012 8:29 AM CST via mobile reply actions
but those 'ways' to keep are a pick in 2016 and an international signee in 2014?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 30, 2012 9:30 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Seriously. If we make a trade, those are the first things that should go
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 30, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
specially if it makes us able to keep Deng
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 30, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
yeah I would even give all other picks we are legally allowed to give
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 30, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind that either
My initial argument was based on them trading Deng. If that were to be the case, I wouldn’t be so comfortable trading away so many picks
The pick sure
But mirotic would literally be the perfect 4 to pair with rose and Dwight.
Pat Riley is the devil.
mirotic is a concept
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 30, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Yep. There's no guarantee that he is ever even going to come over.
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
i think he will. marc gasol just got paid 75M following a 17 PER, 13/8/3 season.
this league pays good PF/Cs an awful lot of money, and i think hed be crazy not to try for that kind of payoff.
but he should obviously be traded for dwight howard if necessary.
"We would look at each other with a glint of recognition and one of us would say, 'So you worry about ASIK, too,' as if admitting a secret vice. Then we would share our crazy ideas-- because all ideas about ASIK that are not immediately wrong turn out to be crazy."
Proof of concept
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwQw-oeKgrk
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jan 30, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
The Bulls should be able to make an attractive package without including Deng.
Noah, Boozer, Gibson or Asik (not both…big man depth is necessary) plus either the Charlotte pick or Mirotic (I’d rather throw in the Charlotte pick as Mirotic is the real deal) for Howard/Hedo should work.
Our only hope is if after this season Carlos Boozer “has a little accident” and his contract goes away, because I can’t see the guys paying him to be amnestied, but maybe they can pay someone to make him “go away”. I’m kidding of course.
I mean, how would this money even work? Rose and Howard at the max, Boozer at almost max, Turk (who we’d likely get) making almost as much as Boozer? It will never happen. Sure the salaries might be equal, but think of the future.
Or someone explain to me how.
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by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 30, 2012 10:36 AM CST reply actions
What's the problem? You have a MVP PG and the best big man in the game.
by Playboy_BullV on Jan 30, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
What’s always the problem with everything? Money.
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by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 30, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
The money works out. They are sending contracts out and getting a few in.
by Playboy_BullV on Jan 30, 2012 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
It doesn’t have to do with just the trade. It has to do with after it, when Howard will need a max deal, Rose has one, Boozer makes an obscene amount, and Turkoglu is making a bit less than Deng. And isn’t UFA until 2014
At least in Miami they have only 3 guys getting max deals.
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by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 30, 2012 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
Reinsdorf will pay the tax for this team.
Isnt D12 a max player now? The Bulls will get to reload a few spots in a few years – not that bad.
by Playboy_BullV on Jan 30, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
This has to be the core of the deal right (before picks)?
It’s too bad we can’t do Boozer instead of Noah. God, could you imagine Noah and Howard in the front court? 500 rebounds a game and the paint would basically be shut down, like Darelle Revis
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by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 30, 2012 10:41 AM CST reply actions
If I were Orlando, I'd want Asik, not Korver.
They have Reddick already, so they’d probably rather get:
Noah
Deng
Asik
Gibson
Protected Future 1st
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by MillerTime31 on Jan 30, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
Well I was working under the idea that the Bulls would refuse to give up both the big men, which they should
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by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 30, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
You wouldn't have much front court depth.
C: Howard
PF: Boozer
I guess the Bulls may not want to make a deal giving up Asik and Gibson, but it may take another future 1st if you refuse to give up both.
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by MillerTime31 on Jan 30, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe we could trade for Jeff Foster
3, 2, 1
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by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 30, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
Fuck Rond- er I mean Foster. Fuck Foster
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
by T.Moore on Jan 30, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm going off of the D-Williams and Melo deals in which multiple 1st rounders were dealt.
And in my opinion, Howard > D-Will or Melo
Therefore, the Bulls will have to give up more to get him, especially since Orlando hasn’t given up on the thought of Howard staying in Orlando.
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by MillerTime31 on Jan 30, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
Can't raid our entire front court LOL
Bulls would negotiate some to make sure we keep Gibson or Asik.
by Playboy_BullV on Jan 30, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
yeah that makes a lot of sense for both teams...
I agree one of the Bulls’ strength right now is the front court depth—have three guys who can play center and play it well defensively. Howard plus either Gibson or Asik keep that dynamic with two and Orlando gets a lot better upfront overall plus two guys who can shoot it well.
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I'd do the same trade
but change it a little
(Noah instead of Boozer)
its basically
Noah/Deng/Asik/Watson
for
Howard/Turkoglu/Duhon
(plus picks or whatever)
Bulls would look like: Rose/Hamilton/Turkoglu/Boozer/Howard
Duhon/Gibson/Butler/Korver/Lucas/Scalabrine/Brewer Przybilla?
Then our needs for next season would be wing defenders.
The luxury tax is an issue, but you can look at it two ways, you can waive Boozer next season and start Gibson, then pay Boozer the 40 million he is owed (just off the cap), or you can keep him and move him later, because even if the Bulls are in the tax, I don’t think they’d be paying more than 13 million in tax dollars that they would by keeping him and grabbing role players.
Turkoglu could be moved for someones spare parts along with Duhon along with whatever remaining Bulls picks. The Bulls probably won’t want to load up on 1st round rookies with guaranteed money and other teams with cap will have to clear the minimum, which is going to be 90% next season I think. So maybe Turk and some assets gets it done. If not both Turk and Duhon would be a nice 14 million expiring for some team in the future.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Jan 30, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
Then bring back Kirk!
Get the old gang back together again!
WOULD HAVE WOULD HAVE
If you lived closer I would have kicked the snot out of you by now
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we lose Watson
we get a backup point, and we sweeten the trade deal by “saving” orlando from 2 bad contracts and we keep our bench largely intact. If we end up keeping Turk and Duhon, its sets us up to give a team a 14 million in expirings in in the 13/14 season.
In my GM vision, Orlando responds, post howard, by trading away Jameer Nelson and uses Watson as a stopgap in order to save salary. I also envision the Bulls Turk/Duhon together to get a high salary guy, someone like Monte Ellis or Kevin Martin, that we consider a misfit to pair with an eventual lineup that has hopefully a power forward platoon of Mirotic and Gibson to go along with Rose/Howard.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Jan 31, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
Ugh.
I’m really sure “god” cares where someone plays basketball.
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by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 30, 2012 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 9 recs
That argument is ridiculous.
People act like there is a finite amount of attention G-d can give out, and if he cares about a basketball game somehow that takes away some of his time from a starving kid in the Sudan or something. It’s G-d you’re talking about, he can do as many things as he wants.
Whether or not you’re a believer, I hate when people say stuff like that. Presuming to think that “G-d has more important things to do” is just stupid, as that assumes G-d is like us and has a schedule.
Any reason why you left out the "o's"?
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
I'm Jewish and it's customary to never write out G-d's full name
when doing so in a vain matter such as this one.
is there some reason for that?
After being crowned the best in the league, he’s ready to be the best at his position
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by BigforkBullsFan on Feb 7, 2012 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
the tradition is that you don't want to put it in a position where it can be destroyed/erased
thus not writing the actual name.
in more recent years i’ve come to the belief that “God” isn’t actually His name anyway, so one isn’t actually destroying anything holy… but i’m also reform…
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
thanks for clarifying
for someone who considers all religions fundamentally simply mythology
After being crowned the best in the league, he’s ready to be the best at his position
-Adande
by BigforkBullsFan on Feb 9, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
Weird,
When I read it, I didn’t realize he left out the "o"’s. I only noticed after reading the comment about it…
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well, god caring about a basketball game is also stupid.
by obnoxious american on Jan 30, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
why? basketball is awesome
and he obviously is a Heat fan
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 30, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's ridiculous.
You’re assuming you know the ramification of that game on each and every person around the world. To assume that you know what G-d cares about anything is the stupid thing, really. If you’re a non-believer, that’s fine. But if you do (really) believe in G-d, then there’s no reason to think that G-d’s fingerprints aren’t on everything that happens in the universe. How do you know that in some way, shape or form, the outcome of a game isn’t a vehicle G-d would use to change someone’s life? Assuming to understanding the manner in which a higher power works is idiotic.
Either way, this is a bball blog so this is my last point on the matter.
by dakoose on Jan 30, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, i've considered this sort of thing, and you have a point.
was thinking conventionally about it, with the thought of the cliched player thanking god at the postgame conference when i posted that. that’s what’s irritating.
by obnoxious american on Jan 30, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
i think you missed the point a bit.
"We would look at each other with a glint of recognition and one of us would say, 'So you worry about ASIK, too,' as if admitting a secret vice. Then we would share our crazy ideas-- because all ideas about ASIK that are not immediately wrong turn out to be crazy."
Classic example of why rec's mean so little here at BaB
A picture or video of Brian Scalabrine doing something comedic (him playing basketball) will get instant rec’s and shoot straight up to the recommended Fanshots section.
The most physically gifted (and freakish) center of our generation talks openly about joining the Bulls, yet only has a couple rec’s
No, it shows how little credibility Howard has.
None of us believe him.
by Tim S. on Jan 30, 2012 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Entirely this.
“Oh I might join the Bulls, i don’t know wtf I want. here Bulls fans have a bone to chew at while I continue to not make up my mind before going to play with the Nets.”
Whatever. If Howard comes he comes, if he doesn’t he doesn’t
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In fairness, there really isn't all that much going on in that story
If an NBA writer like Woj, or one of the ESPN guys came out and said that he added the Bulls to his list, or if there was a real rumor that the Bulls and Magic were talking, I think there’d be a lot more excitement. Plus, I think most people are just worn out from all the prior free agency bullshit. I mean, do you remember those Bogabron threads? People will rec plenty if something legit happens
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 30, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
I dunno what I dislike more,
Scal, the Scal-lovers or the Scal-fanshots.
by dakoose on Jan 30, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
sorry, I didn't rec the fanshot
but you kinda asked to be trolled on that one
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 30, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
hey I never denied that people love the Mamba
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 30, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Well, if it wasn't him it'd be the Big Macs
Apparently people just like having stupid things to cheer for
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 30, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
i'd like to think the love around here is a satirical inside joke.
except that he seems like a pretty cool guy in real life.
by obnoxious american on Jan 30, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
There’s a difference man.
People like to rec funny stuff like that because it’s a spur of the moment thing. Articles are generally more regarded as things to comment on IMO rather than rec’ing it. Fanshots of funny stuff get rec’d as well
The only time I’ve ever seen an actual article get a lot of Recs was over on the Niners board where a dude wrote a story about how the 49ers saved him from an abusive household that got promoted to the front page and got like 40 Recs.
People Rec interesting/funny things, not just normal stuff
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by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 30, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
You must not be from around here cause you're so wrong
The only time I’ve ever seen an actual article get a lot of Recs was over on the Niners board where a dude wrote a story about how the 49ers saved him from an abusive household that got promoted to the front page and got like 40 Recs.
Well also maybe I don’t pay attention to the number of recs an article gets, but I do know that in fanshots and game threads funny pictures like the one you posted above get a lot of recs because they’re funny, but other than that IDK what you mean
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by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 30, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
When is the trade deadline for this season? I want to believe Dwight, but saying it's up
to God isn’t really a ringing endorsement. It’s his choice. If he’s willing to come to Chicago and sign a max extension he can do it. Just tell Otis you’re also adding Chicago to the list and take it from there. Make up your damn mind.
On the J.R. Smith bandwagon until otherwise advised.
Orlando will wait till after all-star game
the deadline is in March 15th
Ugh, so far from now
I know I’m really getting ahead of myself here, but the Magic come to the UC on March 8th, a week prior to the deadline. The rumors should be in full swing. I’m gonna feel really bad for Noah, and all the other guys on our team that are busting their ass, if the crowd starts cheering on Dwight ala Kobe from a few years back
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 30, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
Thank you.
On the J.R. Smith bandwagon until otherwise advised.
You can't help but go back to this
“We don’t want to talk about other teams’ players but obviously there are situations out there that you know that you have to look at,” Paxson said Wednesday on “The Waddle & Silvy Show” on ESPN 1000. “The other part of it is you hope those types of players want to come here. Sometimes, at least what you hear from agents, it doesn’t have anything to do with basketball. It has more to do with marketing and whatnot. Those are the things you don’t have under control when an agent gets involved and doesn’t even want to talk to you. All you do is keep trying, and we certainly will.”
by Option27 on Jan 30, 2012 11:58 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I'm starting to think Orlando is holding things up, not Dwight (or his agent).
Even if he doesn’t want to come to the Bulls, he appears to be willing to go to several different teams, of which many would provide Orlando with some really nice assets to keep them competitive (especially in the EC).
Whether it’s because Otis Smith doesn’t want to pull the trigger, or his hands are tied by the ownership who probably wants to keep Howard through the All-Star game, I don’t see Orlando pursuing any deal for Howard any time soon. However, if the Magic keep losing the way they are, the FO may have to face the ‘trade Dwight’ scenario much sooner than planned.
I've heard that the Magic are afraid of Dwight in Orlando at the all-star game in a new uni
That might hurt.
Of course it’s absolutely ridiculous, although inline with everything that comes with Orlando’s organization.
There's no doubt in my mind Pax would make the trade if Dwight wanted to be here
He’d be a fucking moron not too. The question is, will he be willing to put his ass on the line a bit to try and make something special happen?
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 30, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe I'm being naive about the Bulls FO
but I really believe they would be willing to pull the trigger on a deal that nets Howard. I think the bigger issue (as noted above) is Orlando, that is, I don’t think they’re ready to deal him.
And, all homerism aside (I think), the Bulls can offer what Orlando is reportedly looking for: (a) assets to stay competitive right now, and (b) relieve ‘bad contracts.’ I’m not going to regurgitate hedonism bot’s post from above, but that package has to be pretty attractive to Orlando.
You'd have to believe Thibs would be salivating at the idea.
I’m sure he’d be able to find numerous ways to mask Carlos’ defensive liabilities with Howard back there.
I don't believe that.
I’ve seen a marked improvement in the Bulls’ decisionmaking since Gar took over as GM.
literally have Carlos hide behind Dwight
then laud his defensive rebounding post-game.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 30, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, I always hated that opinion
“I’ve said this all along about Carlos: Carlos has been one of the best defensive rebounders in this league for a long time,” Thibodeau said Thursday. "So when you evaluate our starters, defensively I thought overall, it was good. It can be better. We play a collective defense; he’s part of it.
With a guy like Dwight in there,
I’d rather have Taj or Omer start at the 4. That’s an all-time great defensive frontcourt with a damn good scoring center. If they keep Booz while trading for Dwight, move Booz to the bench or Amnesty him outright.
you keep boozer starting and keep Gibson as your 4th quarter option
I think the attention Rose and Howard would draw away from the rest of the bulls players would be a boon offensively for Boozer and I think it would reflect defensively, as I’m sure long minutes of trying to play Howard one on one (which Im assuming teams would do since Rose would burn them with light defensive pressure) would gas the frontcourts of other teams, and in turn make it better for Boozer when he is on defense.
I saw Boozer doing some Kurt Thomas esque defensive moves, if he can keep that up, and if players are getting tired from getting brutalized by Howard, I think Boozer will look better.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Jan 31, 2012 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
If the Bulls trade say Noah, Deng, Taj, Charlotte pick, possibly Asik or Brewer, etc.
for Howard(and Turkoglu no doubt), and he doesn’t re-sign with the Bulls…GarPax should NEVER show there faces in public again. EVER! To break up a championship calliber team(and the Bulls are one) to get Howard without a guarrantee that he will re-sign with us would be criminally stupid. At no point has he ever expressed the slightest real interest in playing for the Bulls. I’ve waited long enough for the Bulls to build a team that can once more challenge for titles. The Bulls aren’t a 2nd tier team that just needs that one superstar to be elite. The Bulls are already elite. If I were a 76’ers fan I’d be all over this. But the Bulls are dealing from strength and don’t need to take that huge of a risk.
The idea that once Howard wins a title with the Bulls he’ll now eagerly re-sign with them is baseless IMO. First this relies completely on the Bulls winning a title THIS year inspite of all the midseason changes that a trade for Dwight implies(figuring out the remaining players new roles, signing new bench players to fill out the roster, not to mention integrating Howard himself). I believe that such a trade makes a Bulls championship much less likely THIS year. It’s in FUTURE seasons that he’d make championships much MORE likely. Further, he no doubt realizes that Rose- Howard combination with an season to get used to each other and for GarPax to properly fill in the roster would be a great team. Yet he has expressed ZERO real interest in such a scenario. He doesn’t want to play for the Bulls, he just doesn’t. If he ever changes his mind I hope GarPax won’t be afraid to pull the trigger, but until then…
Get ready for that 7th banner Chicago...it's '90-'91 all over again!
Dwight needs us more than we need him
If he gives his word to resign with us, Cool. But if he doesn’t we’re screwed and it would look incredibly stupid on our part
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That's why I'd be hesitant to give up Deng
With Deng, the starting lineup would be hugely upgraded and the bench would be majorly downgraded.
I’m in
I say you hold on to Gibson.
noah is a dynamic center, and asik is a traditional big tough center, which is why the tandem works really well, but with howard you kind of get both, minus noah’s ballhandling.
A Gibson/Howard frontcourt will be just nasty. And Gibson has the length and speed to give guards nightmares, something Asik can’t do.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Jan 31, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
Say Howard has a 50% shot of staying with us
Our future championship equity still goes up by a fair amount.
This is the NBA. While there are exceptions, championships are won by putting together great players, not by retaining above average players who are paid what they’re worth. The guys massively underpaid in this league are the Roses, Howards, and LBJs and that’s where value and title equity originate.
Not trading for Howard likely condemns us to six years of being the 1990s Pacers. Which isn’t a bad thing, but it means getting a ring is an uphill fight.
Look to the Lakers as an example, they have always known what to doin these spots. Have some guts and don’t overvlue what you have, the classic mistake of both real and fantastic GMs.
by Gentleman Jim on Feb 2, 2012 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think keeping Luol in that potential trade is more important than anything.
Plus, I doubt the Magic want the size of both Noah and Deng’s contracts; they will have to rebuild. I think a move like Taj, Noah, Ronnie, our 1st rd pick and the Charlotte pick would be more than enough. The deal won’t work in terms of money, but I see that being a more realistic type trade. Dwight WILL leave Orlando, that is almost certain. Plus, look at that deal and tell me if any team has put a better one on the table?
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
plus, couldn't the Magic amnesty Turkey glue next year if he stayed?
If I were them, I’d keep him, lose even more games, get a lottery pick, and then amnesty his ass.
My way of “rebuilding”
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
No they used the amnesty on Gilbert
WOULD HAVE WOULD HAVE
If you lived closer I would have kicked the snot out of you by now
Matt Moore. That is all.
by joeybw
Also they don't want to rebuild.
Old owner wants to win now.
WOULD HAVE WOULD HAVE
If you lived closer I would have kicked the snot out of you by now
Matt Moore. That is all.
by joeybw
They aren't going to win...and yeah, I forgot about good ol' Gilbert. But then again, who hasn't forgotten about him?
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
I don't think it is.
whats important is, if Deng and Noah are part of the deal, what else are we willing to throw in.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Jan 31, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
Front page this yfbb!!
Even if SuperTroll is taking us all for a ride.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
Do. Not. Want.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jan 30, 2012 2:38 PM CST reply actions
I've said it before, and I'll say it again
by Option27 on Jan 30, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
and yall thought i was crazy for saying that there were a number of people who didnt want to trade our guys for dwight
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
You were right.
Some people here are nutz. It’s one thing to post a well thought out post about how you think gutting the roster for Dwight can actually hamper this team’s championship chances, but to just come out and say…
Do. Not. Want
???
Maybe he just hate’s Dwight and even if it means rings he doesn’t want him in the black and red?
It has nothing to do with who we trade.
I don’t want Dwights dumbass screw around attitude on this team of hard workers.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jan 30, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT HIS ATTITUDE
HES THE BEST FUCKING CENTER IN THE WORLD
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
Monta Ellis is awesome too...
But I wouldn’t take him over Rip, not on this team.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jan 30, 2012 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
caution: thought under construction
"We would look at each other with a glint of recognition and one of us would say, 'So you worry about ASIK, too,' as if admitting a secret vice. Then we would share our crazy ideas-- because all ideas about ASIK that are not immediately wrong turn out to be crazy."
by TheMoon on Jan 30, 2012 11:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
monta ellis isnt the second best player in the world
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
It's still a comparison
I wouldn’t want the better player because of personality.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jan 31, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly, the willingness to take on a bad personality
rises exponentially when the personality is Dwight.
like i understand theres debate over a player like melo
but i would think dwight would be a no brainer
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
I don't think you're crazy for that.
But I definitely still think your crazy for thinking the Knicks are even close to being good.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jan 30, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
Knicks CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
it's important to emphasize that you've been wrong before
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 30, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
I like to think of myself as a wizard.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jan 30, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
would definitely be very wrong then
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
Shaw
with selective amnesia, no Olajuwon really?
They can save the world if they don't kill each other first.
by squadron supreme on Jan 30, 2012 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
*Shaq
They can save the world if they don't kill each other first.
by squadron supreme on Jan 30, 2012 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
Recruiting shmecruiting. Why not?
@KCJHoop K.C Johnson
DRose: “Dwight is a great player. Who wouldn’t want to play with him? You never know what’s going to happen.” #Bulls
by bryield on Jan 30, 2012 5:42 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
meh
noah for PF
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
i think
that wouldn’t be a bad idea actually. I just think there’s no way Orlando would take Boozer’s contract.
wouldn't trade him anyway
Boozer and Dwight are besties
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who gives a shit
if we get dwight he’ll have to learn to love winning. I’m sure he’ll get used to it
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
WHY MUST EVERYTHING BE IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION?
Why can’t I be MVP?
Who wouldn’t want to play with him?
Ohh, Derrick! You’re not only slick on the basketball court, my friend!
"How dare you mock this buxom wench!"
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jan 30, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Dwight really displeased with his team
"I look at guys and they don’t look like they want to play," Howard said following the lopsided loss
good thing boozer and dwight are friends, then
Just wee-un.
by jesus christos on Jan 30, 2012 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
so is Dwight and Big baby
friends dont mean shit in bball trades.
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde
Big price, bigger payoff:
Put down Korver for 3.5 3’s per game if Rose and Howard are collapsing the defense non-stop.
Sadly, there is no way you could keep Deng in the deal. Noah would need to be included for Orlando. It would be amazing if you could keep Asik or Gibson.
I love the current squad, but you would have to do what it takes to get Howard.
I dunno
Noah, Taj, Mirotic and Charlotte pick (plus salary matchers) would still be better than most offers
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 31, 2012 5:31 AM CST up reply actions
Not really, because that doesn't get a team closer to competing for it all.
Those guys are all pieces and the Charlotte pick, as valuable as it may be, is still not gonna bear fruit until a few years from now. If the Lakers are willing to send over Bynum, and he’s willing to sign in Orlando and be their guy, that’s a deal Orlando needs to take because he could actually be a guy you build around.
The Bulls have a pretty good, deep group of players to deal from, but they don’t really have any young all-star caliber guys to deal.
It really depends on what they're looking for
Although with the combination of young/old players, and draft picks that the Bulls can offer, they can be very flexible in that regard. And if Orlando really wants to skew younger, don’t discount the possibility of a three team trade
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 31, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
I love the flexibility
A D rose D12 core would give us. The way we are currently constructed causes us to overpay for role players. With the Ds, we could plug and play talent for 10 years and make sure we got good deals on the other guys.
And Van Gundy is on the bottom of the pile!
Funny gag:
Chicago guy dresses up like God and follows Howard around, beseeching him to play for The Bulls as he walks from the team bus to his hotel.
“Go to Chicago, Dwight, go to Chicago. ‘Tis I, your Lord and Master. Play with Derrick Rose! Receive his righteous lobs….And don’t make them give up Noah or Gibson to get you, either! Just go to Chicago, Dwight.”
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by Cheese23 on Jan 31, 2012 1:53 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Meanwhile...
Not his best work, though. In fact, it sounded like rehashed blog comment talk.
"How dare you mock this buxom wench!"
- William Regal defending Vickie Guerrero.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jan 31, 2012 2:28 AM CST reply actions
Yeah, not very interesting at all
Usually when he does one of those hit pieces on a player that wants out, he’ll throw out a few nuggets on potential landing spots or something, but this was pretty straightforward.
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 31, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
I'm sure some of you have heard of this "Incarcerated Bob" guy that does rumors on Twitter
Probably total bullshit in the “Technyne” vein, but whatever, rumors are fun. Just take this with a HUGE grain of salt (and I’m not sure it’s all that interesting to begin with, even if true):
incarceratedbob Incarcerated Bob
UPDATED NBA RUMORSSource: Orlando Magic have sent a scouting team 2watch Chicago Bulls the next few games..Things that make u go hmmm
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 31, 2012 10:38 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
The scouting team could save some time
and simply mount a TV in the Magic FO, followed by purchasing league pass.
Yeah, and everyone on the team is a known commodity.
I guess it’s just traditional practice to scout players live, but I don’t see how necessary it is. Either way, I’m hoping Boozy goes off and has an amazing next 5 games!!!!!!!
Oh man, that'd be great.
Otis: “We don’t care. Boozer has to be in the trade. It’s essential.”
Gar: “Gee, I dunno. Maybe if you threw in JJ Redick, too.”
Otis: “Whatever it takes! Whatever. It. Takes.”
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jan 31, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Knowing Otis Smith and his track record
I wouldn’t be surprised if this was already the case.
Oh good, so they're not going to want Deng!
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jan 31, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 6 recs
could dengs injury be the reason he stays with the team?
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Jan 31, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
if so
i will buy deng’s wrist ligament a drink
Just wee-un.
by jesus christos on Jan 31, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
conspiracy theory
the deng “injury” came up shortly after noah remembered who he was and started ballin’.
hmmmmm.
Under construction.
by anorexorcist on Jan 31, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
Stephen Jackson may be the key to all this, according to Bucher.
He says Howard and Jackson have talked about joining DWill on the Nets, with the Nets still being at the top of his preferred list.
Stephen Jackson? Seriously?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jan 31, 2012 11:43 AM CST reply actions
Seriously
Dwight can go to the nets…If he wants to go there. If he sick of losing in orlando why go to the nets…
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Or why not just lobby Orlando to trade for Stephen Jackson?
I’m sure Milwaukee will be happy to dump his whiny ass.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jan 31, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
If Dwight Howard's plan is to team with Stephen Jackson of all people, he is dumber
than anyone could have imagined.
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 31, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe those EKG paddles were used on his head?
He’s retarded. I’ll never forget him singing to reporters earlier this season, that’s when I realized this guy’s seriously fucked up, and I really believe that. He’s got some issues.
I don't know about "fucked up"
I think he’s just incredibly immature. Which I would guess is somewhat common for a guy that’s basically gotten anything he’s ever wanted since he was 18
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 31, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
I think the dude has issues, but that's just my opinion and it's not like I know him.
Either way, I think he’s unbalanced.
Dwight= A more annoying version of Clinton Portis?
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
No kidding
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He was pissed about Gilbert leaving
Dwight making himself look like a fucking dumbass
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
I'm beginning to think he just wants to play with his friends.
Maybe he just likes winning in practice.
Howard really is kind of a moron
I would definitely take him on the team, and I still think he’s the second best player in the league, but there’s certainly something going on there that is just a bit off
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 31, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
I've thought Howard was kind of a weirdo ever since I read this
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/dwight-howard-shows-mary-carey-his-magic-wand-26817
Pat Riley is the devil.
haha, yeah I remember that
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 31, 2012 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
Oh man, how did I ever miss this? That's...wow.
"Left hand, right hand it doesn't matter, I'm amphibious."
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by Locust_Inferno_666 on Feb 11, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
This is a little too strange to actually believe...
but, then again, Dwight apparently wanted Big Baby Davis, too.
HAHAHAHAHA
::deep breath::
HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA
Steven Jackson playing with DWill and Howard…he complains about not getting the ball enough at Milwaukee when he’s the only guy who can score, and he’s gonna play there…lololololololol
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The Nets have NOTHING to offer.
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
Which makes me think if Howard moves at all before the deadline, it'll be a three-team trade to the Nets, OR:
Some team with more to offer will gamble on him to see if they can get him to sign. Who will take that chance?
Say if the Bulls did do that, and Howard split after the season, they’d have a gutted roster and a bunch of cap space, right? Whom would they pursue? Who else is on the market this summer?
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by ColonelFatheart on Jan 31, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
Larry Coon on the various Howard scenarios
Bulls-pertinent parts:
Any other team interested in Howard would be contemplating an enormous risk — giving up significant assets to acquire the franchise center, only to face the distinct possibility of losing him as a free agent. The Bulls are one team that would be very interested, but only if they could have Howard as more than just a short-term rental. Howard originally expressed reluctance about relocating to Chicago, but may now be open to the idea.
And:
If Smith does not make a trade by the March 15 deadline, this would be the only way to get some value in return for his departing All-Star. However, this scenario comes with a significant risk — Howard only needs a sign-and-trade if his preferred destination doesn’t have the cap room to sign him directly — the Lakers, Clippers and Bulls would need a sign-and-trade, but the Nets and Mavs wouldn’t. Why would Smith want to bank on the availability of a sign-and-trade when half the teams on Howard’s A-list could cut out the middleman and deal with Howard directly?
And:
Finally, the Magic could trade Howard to a team that meets his approval on or before March 15. He would exercise his early-termination option in June, then re-sign with that team as a free agent. Since Howard’s Bird rights are traded with him, he would be eligible for the largest possible contract, with five years and 7.5 percent raises ($89.1 million total).
This would be Howard’s preferred option, since he gets both the team of his choice and the best possible contract. However, the team that acquires him would be assuming a significant risk — once Howard becomes a free agent, his team cannot prevent him from signing elsewhere. A team like the Nets or Lakers would want assurances from Howard’s people that he would re-sign before they commit significant assets to a trade. The Nets may have received this sort of assurance. The Lakers, Clippers and Bulls have not.
The most likely scenario, therefore, is that Howard will be in a Magic uniform for the Feb. 26 All-Star Game, but we will see him in a new uniform soon afterward. Howard’s best option is to become a free agent this summer — wherever he ends up — so we can expect a certain amount of panic in his new team’s front office in July as he contemplates his future — deciding whether to re-sign or move on.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jan 31, 2012 12:43 PM CST reply actions
So basically he can wait until he opts out then sign with New Jersey, or the Magic trade him there
after the all star break for fear of losing him for nothing. OR he comes to his senses and accepts a trade to da Bulls, signs the extension and Rose and Howard wreak havoc on the league. Something tells me he’s gonna end up wearing a Nets Jersey. I’m really kind of curious what his thought process is. I mean Dwight and Dwill, with Stephen might compete, but how do you pass up a chance to team up with Derrick Rose.
It’s either an Ego thing, or marketing. But for someone that’s so religious, he should realize the whole Pride before the fall saying. As for marketing, he’ll get plenty in Chicago, and championships help bring even more money. Whether he’s with Adidas, Nike, Reebok, whoever. I just get the feeling that Otis might feel pressure from the owner, and the fan base, and not want to let Howard go for nothing resulting in Howard ending up on the Nets.
On the J.R. Smith bandwagon until otherwise advised.
Won't sign an extension in-season, so
OR he comes to his senses and accepts a trade to da Bulls, signs the extension and Rose and Howard wreak havoc on the league.
will not happen.
This likely will.
He would exercise his early-termination option in June, then re-sign with that team as a free agent. Since Howard’s Bird rights are traded with him, he would be eligible for the largest possible contract, with five years and 7.5 percent raises ($89.1 million total).
This would be Howard’s preferred option, since he gets both the team of his choice and the best possible contract.
Ah thanks, reading fail on my part. But does this means the Bulls have to take Howard's word
that he’ll resign with the Bulls?
On the J.R. Smith bandwagon until otherwise advised.
KC, basically stating the obvious, and dropping the bucket of cold water like he so loves to do:
KCJHoop K.C Johnson
For the 1,736 questions on Dwight: Until Howard says he’d sign longterm extension with #Bulls, non-starter.
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 31, 2012 4:08 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Did he explicitly state that he would sign extensions
with LA or New Jersey?
Yes
The Lakers, Nets, and Mavericks are the three teams that he would sign an extension with
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 1, 2012 2:01 AM CST up reply actions
I was thinkng, it kinda sucks that MarShon Brooks turned out to be a player
because he gives the Nets one more useful piece than they were thought to have prior to the year. Lopez, Brooks and picks is a lot more enticing than Lopez and picks. I could see the Magic going for that offer
Injuries. Fuck.
I'm not trying to read tea leaves
but this does make me wonder if the FO is seriously pursuing a Howard trade, especially if multiple front court players would have to be given up to get him. Or, it could be as simple as expanding the rotation in light of the injuries so far.
Przybilla’s agent, Bill Duffy, confirmed that the center is weighing offers to sign with either the Bulls or Miami Heat, perhaps as early as this week. The Tribune reported the Bulls’ interest in Przybilla in early December.
say Howard stays with Orlando for the season.
when can the Bulls amnesty? They could amnesty Boozer (or Noah… but… I mean… yeah), and have the room for Howard, no?
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde
no.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Nope. Assuming the Bulls keep Omer and CJ,
the Bulls are at 78 million next year including Rose’s extension. If they Amnesty Booz they get down to ~63 million, which is still over the cap. The Bulls won’t be under the cap for a while, assuming no major trades.
To sum up Dwight then:
"Left hand, right hand it doesn't matter, I'm amphibious."
- Charles Shackleford
by Locust_Inferno_666 on Feb 8, 2012 1:04 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
just for laughs
Bulls do a sign and trade with Orlando this offseason. Bulls give Boozer to Orlando. Just to see Spoelstra’s facial expression, Thibs lines up Howard, Noah, Omer with Deng at the 2.
OK, that was fun. Back to reality.
This is obviously a no-go
but there is some hope that given LOLOtis Smith is the GM and the Magic owner is 175-years-old and wants veterans to play for him for the two months before he enters hospice, that Boozer could be part of a package given to Orlando. Still tough to see how he wouldn’t get better offers elsewhere, though.
by Gentleman Jim on Feb 9, 2012 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
Never going to happen
Dwight will never be a member of the Chicago Bulls!
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Here’s part of an article from ESPN insider showing possible Howard trades where the Magic don’t necessarily “lose” (the other 2 were the nets and Lakers (with the Rockets involved)
To Chicago: Dwight Howard
To Orlando: Joakim Noah, Taj Gibson, Jimmy Butler, C.J. Watson and Charlotte first-round pickUnlike the other two teams, the Bulls are legitimate title contenders right now and don’t need Howard, thus weakening Orlando’s leverage in a possible deal. Noah, Gibson and Watson are solid players, Butler is a quality rookie, and Charlotte’s pick could be a top-10 player in a couple of years, so the return isn’t terrible here. Still, this type of move is a traditional rebuilding play, and it would spell a couple of very bleak years for the Magic.
Still, a deal with Chicago isn’t necessarily a loss for the Magic. If they can add a Luol Deng-for-Turkoglu swap, they would unload a big contract while adding an All-Star, and the deal suddenly looks far better. With the Bulls in such a strong position this season, however, that outcome seems unlikely.
Obviously we would likely not deal Deng, but the offer as posted looks decent
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by MichaelClutchtree on Feb 14, 2012 7:23 PM CST reply actions
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