Deng could return Sunday (What the eff?!?); Rose didn't like Indy celebrating
by Alex Sonty on Jan 26, 2012 11:32 AM CST
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Despite torn ligaments in his left wrist, Luol Deng could return as early as Sunday, when the Bulls face the Heat in Miami, Adrian Wojnarowski is reporting.
With speculation of surgery after the season, there isn't cause for concern that Deng will now suck until he has surgery, as it's his non-shooting hand. But while the injury is so fresh, this injury is being taken lightly if such a swift return is seriously entertained.
That left wrist is needed to max out to do all of those things that Deng does to 'glue' the team together. It's needed to fight for rebounds, establish position off the ball, create space on the dribble drive, attack passing lanes, and set effective screens.
On top of that, how is anyone comfortable with Deng checking a 6'9", 275-pound freak of nature playing the most aggressive basketball of his career in LeBron James on Sunday afternoon?
LeBron is going to brutalize whoever the Bulls throw at him because he's unguardable by any team defense, let alone any individual. With or without Deng, the Heat can play a small lineup with LeBron at the four and still be longer than the Bulls with Shane Battier, Mike Miller, and Mario Chalmers on the floor, no matter who's in the middle. In that case, Joakim Noah's a better option to check LeBron with Omer Asik in the middle because, with Deng at the stretch-four, you're forcing him to box out more and fight for more rebounds.
Erik Spoelstra's a better coach than he's given credit. And though LeBron may not be the killer, he's the most talented basketball player we've ever seen. Add that he's bigger and more the opportunist than ever before. What you then have is that beast doing everything he can to force Deng to either use the left or tie it behind his back.
In that case, the Bulls likely lose anyway with Deng losing more weeks -- if not months -- so what's the friggin' point?
Deng will be able to play without surgery and be effective with painkilling substances and keep the wrist safe with splints, bandages, tape, etc. And that time could be within a couple of weeks. But that time isn't within days.
- Down the road, whether or not we're going to look back at these Bulls and Pacers to see a significant rivalry is unknown; but we can be sure that Derrick Rose doesn't like them. The Twitter hashtag for their next matchup may have to be "#neverforget', as he said after the game: "I will never forget how they celebrated just from winning this game. I can't wait to play them again."
- A lot of bad things happened for the Bulls to lose their fourth game of the season, but not playing as big as they are was the main reason, Matt McHale notes:
The Pacers ended up outscoring the Bulls 50-40 in the paint and outrebounding them 44-41.
Rose is the 6'3" superstar, but the biggest reason the Bulls win is because they're bigger than everyone else and they play normally like it in a league where size still kills. The Bulls had a high 31.3% offensive rebounding rate, but also allowed a very high 29.7%, according to Hoopdata. The second half was just nauseating as the Pacers scored 32 in the paint on 16-for-26 (61.5%) to the Bulls' 16 on 8-for-19 (42.1%) in a game where Indy came back from a ten-point halftime deficit to win by five [.pdf]. Do the math.
Yes, Chicago shot poorly (40 percent) while Indy shot unusually well (47.5 versus their season average of 42.1), especially Danny Granger (9-for-16 despite shooting 37 percent on the season).
Yes, Carlos Boozer (5-for-14) and Rip Hamilton (6-for-20) were shooting with blinders on.
Yes, the absences of Luol Deng (wrist) and Taj Gibson (ankle) likely affected the outcome.
But the rebounds, the layups and dunks, all the effort and hustle plays that went the Pacers’ way…
…those are the reasons the Bulls lost. - The Bulls' loss to the Pacers drops them to 8-1 at home in a season where homecourt is mattering more, Kevin Pelton notes:
Typically, home teams win by an average of somewhere between 3.0 and 3.5 points per game. Early this year, that mark is all the way up to 4.3. Home teams are winning slightly more often (61.8 percent, as compared to 60.4 percent in 2010-11) and they're winning blowouts a lot more frequently.
- Plug March 30, 2002 into your wayback machine. Kevin Pelton wanted to find the worst starting lineup he could find, dating back to 1986 and discovered, according to his method, it was the one put on the court by the Nuggets on April 17, 2002. The second-worst was the one slated for March 30, 2002 of Kenny Satterfield, Juwan Howard, Calbert Cheaney, Ryan Bowen, and Mengke Bateer by those same Nuggets, but against against the Bulls. Bill Cartwright's red warriors lost that game 100-84.
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I'm feeling meatball-ish
I want Deng to play Sunday. I wanna win that damned game.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 26, 2012 11:41 AM CST reply actions 8 recs
Win one, or win ten.
I fear that will be the choice for that one game. I don’t know that much about his injury, but from what I’ve heard, the pain tolerance cannot possibly be manageable in such a short amount of time. And I fear that the injury can only get worse guarding such a beast of a player.
If Deng does play, he should be defending the Heat’s “other” forward, put JoNo on LBJ all day long, and let Asik crash the boards. I don’t want Deng checking down the biggest physical freakshow since Orlando Shaq.
No way we play the Heat 3 more times after this Sunday.
Deng needs to sit out at least 4 weeks before he returns. Every report about his injury (limited info) says the injury needs about 4 weeks of rest if going the non-surgical route.
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by illwill on Jan 26, 2012 11:52 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
What I've read is that it's a pain-tolerance issue.
It’s probably better to go out and see if he can actually tolerate the pain and then if he can, fine, play him regularly. If he can’t go and get surgery and maybe he’ll be back for the playoffs. I don’t see the logic in waiting a month to see if he can tolerate the pain and then if he can’t, you have the surgery and miss him in the playoffs.
the swelling has to go down and it's a chance the ligament will heal itself.
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by illwill on Jan 26, 2012 12:05 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
This is pretty important.
Swelling dictates how the staff can properly immobilize the wrist.
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yeah, i thought i had read
his swelling had gone down considerably. not sure where i saw that.
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by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
After about 7-10 days, yes...
While ligaments are still tender.
What’s risky is the amount of force LeBron applies to defenders. Deng’s ligaments have to be worse than still-tender by then. If surgery is a question, MRI’s usually show bone-on-bone.
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by Alex Sonty on Jan 26, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
and i think deng is particularly hesitant to consider surgery
given i read an article that said his recovery time from the last one was 4 months. if it was 2, maybe he would actually consider it…
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by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
I'm pretty up-front in saying it's not a logical stance
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 26, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i believe, in my heart of hearts, they can win without deng on sunday
….thats my illogical stance
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by illwill on Jan 26, 2012 1:42 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
I don't see how
Unless Boozer goes back in time 2 years
I know lol
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by illwill on Jan 26, 2012 1:42 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
meh, we beat them in the regular season last year
and still got our ass kicked in the playoffs. Might as well rest Deng. Beside beating them with a full roster and no Wade leaves too many what ifs
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 27, 2012 4:51 AM CST up reply actions
If Joakim Noah tries to guard LBJ
we will lose… badly.
Not saying Deng should play but I don’t think that’s the right strategy.
In the post, it's the only option...
Few players with two good hands can take him down there. This is only in that case where Battier and Miller are on the wings with Chalmers at the point. That lineup moves LeBron inside. On the dribble drive, he’ll get around a one-handed Deng and it’s absolutely all on Noah and Asik to help.
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I don't get what you're saying.
It’s not like the Bulls know where Lebron will be generating his offense, so if he starts on the wing and then goes down to the post, it’s not like Noah will be able to just switch onto Lebron.
Zone hybrids.
The way Noah floats, this is more possible than you’d think.
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by Alex Sonty on Jan 26, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Then you're basically calling for double teams,
because in the second it takes Brew to leave and for Noah to step over, Lebron’s gonna already be walking the other way after wetting a mid-range J.
what the hell are you talking about
its not like we dont have recent footage of the bulls playing miami. Its exactly as Alex put it, lebron would get past deng or brewer or whoever was on him, then noah or asik would pick him up and stick with him and keep him from getting inside. Noah is certainly one of the few big men who can actually play MAN defense on lebron for a short period of time, and asik turned out to be one of those as well. Lebron really killed us with his long range jumpers last year, not his drives inside.
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Lebron killed the bulls in every way in the playoffs.
From distance, on fast breaks, in the half court, mid-range, paint. He made threes and got to the line like crazy(44 attempts in 5 games). And don’t say I didn’t warn you; if Lebron gets picked up by Joakim or Omer in the post, or anywhere else for that matter, its a basket or a free throw most of the time. This fallacy that Noah can guard Lebron, even in a mediocre fashion, needs to end. Noah couldn’t even d-up Hibbert last night. The Bulls best bet against Lebron is Ronnie or Lebron on him and maybe a big rotating once he gets near the rim. Lebron typically posts 10-14 feet out, if you bring out Noah or Omer that far, they’re finished.
i dont think me nor alex are saying
that noah is a freakin lebron stopper, big men on quick athletic wings usually puts the bigs at the disadvantage. However your utter dismissal of noah or asiks defense on lebron is absurd. The bulls defense literally hangs on the fact that noah and asik and taj are capable of not just impeding incoming guards but then chasing them out of the paint and contesting their jumpers.
Lebrons post up isnt going to work any many centers in this league, and its definetly not gonna work on noah or asik, im not sure how this fact can ever be disputed. His post up isnt even all that refined, he still has trouble against guards when posting up.
I think you are for some reason assuming alex is saying that lebron will pick up lebron james right off the bat. I dont think that is what alex is saying at all. he is just saying that more than usual noah and asik are gonna have to be attentive because the guy who can keep lebron at bay the most, deng, will not be in the game and so lebron will constantly find ways to get near the rim and it will be up to those two to keep lebron from getting into effective space.
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I'm saying that I disagree.
I don’t particularly for Noah’s man to man defense; I think he’s a solid help defender, but nothing special there either(the luster is off of Noah altogether, for me).
I like our chances of guarding Lebron with either Brewer or Deng over anyone else in any situation, whether it be in the post or on the perimeter. Honestly, all I want from Omer and noah against Bron is to contest his shots at the rim. I don’t want them switching onto him in any other scenario. To me, Brewer and Deng each have the right combo of thickness, height, length and quickness to stay with him.
jimmy would lock lebron down
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
by sin on Jan 26, 2012 11:57 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
::flashbacks::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWpGp8XXAGw
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 26, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
we sure could use him now
He’s ripping it up in toronto
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Who doesn't rip up in toronto...
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no, and no
where do you get that?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 26, 2012 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
he's playing more than 0 minutes dude!!
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by sin on Jan 26, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
He's had a few decent games.
Nothing spectacular and obviously he was motivated to prove himself playing against us. These are not the droids you are looking for. Move on.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jan 27, 2012 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
gibson will def be important too
hes a solid interior defender. Him and deng are gonna have to double team him if lebron starts to go apeshit.
He won't
You don’t have to double team Lebron. The Cavs didn’t even double him even though Lebron complained about being double teamed during the game.
Rebound and limit their threes.
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by NBA Observer on Jan 26, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Anybody have a Gibson injury/status update?
by Bill Cartwright's Elbow on Jan 26, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
i believe tomorrow or sunday
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I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
"But the rebounds, the layups and dunks, all the effort and hustle plays that went the Pacers’ way…"
I concur, that and the refs are basically why we lost the game. The bulls came out with low energy in the third quarter as well and the bulls took too many jump shots in certain stretches which allowed the pacer to come back into the game.
Like when he remembered the GSW game...
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by Rudey on Jan 26, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The number of easy tips and dunks Boozer, Noah and Asik
are missing is starting to drive me crazy. I think we should hire Shaq to teach our big men how to dunk the ball. There must be some secret, because they don’t get it. If I had any long term worries about this team, its the continued diminishment of our paint dominance.
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 26, 2012 12:36 PM CST reply actions
i think the secret is being a man
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by sin on Jan 26, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Are you saying Jo's sister has taken his place on the Bulls?
I’ll allow that…
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 26, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I hear you
they miss too many bunnies around the rim. Especially boozer, he’s an offensive player, so its no excuse for him.
noah is becoming a disaster.
he cant shoot or finish. he cant defend his own position and he is overrated as a help defender because he lacks length and doesnt seem to be as mobile as he used to.
its amazing how crappy his scoring skills are. i remember in the 4th quarter naoh sealed off his guy about 5 feet from the basket and derrick hit him in the chest with a pass. noah catches the ball, looks panicky, does a fadeaway lefty hook which does not come close to going in. awful stuff.
“but his numbers were good.” it doesnt matter. after the 09’ playoffs wayne winston derided noah by calling him a “stat stuffer”. i think thats right, and i know id rather have kurt thomas of last year than noah.
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Omer's gotta start hitting free throws too..He seems worse this year than last year.
And just a side note… Funk’s getting worse; for me at least. He was painstakingly unbearable yesterday, to the point I was almost happy Hibbert was hitting in the post….
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by Yibs on Jan 26, 2012 12:53 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Omer "seemed" worse
I dont think he airballed last year lol…I hope someone stops caring how they look and just do the granny shot damn…
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by T.Moore on Jan 26, 2012 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I would rather Deng sit the Miami game if the swelling on the wrist hasn't come down completely yet.
There’s no reason for him to push it. If it’s a pain tolerance thing, and he’s not in too much pain, I guess it’s okay. But part of me thinks because of his past injuries and the knock on him not being able to tough it out at times, not being there for his team, might make him come back earlier than what would be ideal. Maybe the injury prone label is still in the back of his mind and he wants to prove to everyone wrong. It’s all conjecture on my part. Obviously I don’t know what goes on in his mind, I’m just trying to find reasons as to why he’s in such a hurry to get back.
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by BlackStar on Jan 26, 2012 1:18 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
because deng, like everyone else, hates miami with a passion
Obviously I don’t know what goes on in his mind, I’m just trying to find reasons as to why he’s in such a hurry to get back
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by piccolomair on Jan 26, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That, and they're obviously still upset about how they played in that series. But just like
how the Pacers were all giddy and celebrating after defeating the bulls last night, the Bulls shouldn’t take a win or a loss for this particular game to heart. It’s how they play them during the playoffs, if they end up matching up with each other again.
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He really seems to get up for playing Lebron
This got mentioned the past two years (I really remember people commenting on it in the 2010 playoffs). He seems to have this attitude like “I don’t see what the big deal is about this guy.” Then he really brings it. Like that sick behind the back move he put on Lebron.
by tuluse on Jan 26, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I wish I could say I recorded it
"Shame he’s such a goofy fuckface."
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by SidM on Jan 26, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Luol Deng: Making Lebron Look the fool since 2005,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc83b_LBdSw
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by piccolomair on Jan 26, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
seriously though this deng thing is so dumb.
Always struck me as the smartest player on our team for some reason but this rushing back just sounds dumb.
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agreed
its pretty dumb….
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There's different kinds of smart
Knowing how to play defense doesn’t mean you make good life choices.
Just ask Scottie Pippen.
I think we need to stop pretending like we know the exactly what's going on in his wrist
We’re all just guessing at this point.
If he says he can go on Sunday, sure that sounds kinda silly to me, but I’ll just trust in the fact that him and the team doctors know a lot more than I do, and hope for the best. Kobe has a ligament tear in his wrist and hasn’t missed a game. And that’s not to say that Kobe’s a tough guy or whatever, just that everyone is different.
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 26, 2012 10:18 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
yeah, at this pt i have trust deng knows what hes talking bout.
dont get me wrong, i would want him to rest for couple of weeks and come back later, but there is no pt to keep guessing how bad his injury is or the current state his wrist is in.
and wouldn't it be great if kc breaks a story about thibs forcing deng to come back early later in the year?
That’d be fun.
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pfft
it’d be buried in a mailbag 6 months after Thibs is fired
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 26, 2012 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Does he even do those anymore? Haven't seen one in forever
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 26, 2012 10:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
taste some Thibs love
This approach, of course, emanates from Thibodeau and his staff. And it should be noted: The reigning coach of the year has, in some circles, erroneously acquired a reputation as some raving maniac. His style actually is more purposeful than punitive.
When mistakes happen, Thibodeau shares detailed reasons as to why and offers myriad suggestions to correct them. Aided, of course, by any and every film clip imaginable — pictures, backing up words.
Thibodeau, at his core, is a very loyal coach. He never buries players publicly. Normally, he sticks to his rotation. This approach helps engender a serious-minded approach in return.
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 27, 2012 4:55 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Deng vs. Heat
why is everyone so flustered about Deng possibly playing Sunday vs. Miami? Kobe has the same injury, actually worse, because it’s his shooting hand and he is logging 38 minutes a game and nobody’s fussing about that. Deng is a warrior, and should be praised for opting out of surgery and sacrifice his body for his team. True baller right there.
Kobe needs to play so the Lakers even have a chance to make the playoffs
Deng needs to be healthy so we can have a chance at winning a championship. Totally different situations.
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 26, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
both are torn ligament injuries
but are they even the same ligament? Kobe has a torn lunotriquetral ligament…unless I missed something, it hasn’t been reported which liagment Lu has torn.
it was reported that it WASN'T
the same injury as kobe actually. one of the guys in the other thread speculated as to which ligament it was but it hasn’t been officially reported.
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by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
sources said
doctors said he can’t damage it any more by playing on it. If pain and swelling is down Sunday, I don’t see why he shouldn’t be out there playing.
by thewindyapple on Jan 26, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
Chris?
"Before the game, we all thought he’d get 20 (points)," Chicago’s Kyle Korver said. "We didn’t know he’d shoot 28." - speaking about JLIII
KC was on 670 this morning
and said that the actual tear is worse than Kobe’s
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 26, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
ahh, though at least it's not on his shooting hand
but looking back on it, kobe got injured in the first preseason game – monday the 19 – played against the bulls the 25th. so i mean… i dunno. if the swelling has gone down and the injury has stabilized enough for them to be able to wrap it up sufficiently, it’s not unheard of i guess? not that what kobe’s doing is necessarily the right thing.
but yeah, looking back to articles about kobe, compared to the ones about deng, def seems like kobe’s injury is less severe.
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by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
agreed
I’m surprised Sam has yet to say anything about Lu’s brittle ligaments yet
by NormVanBeer on Jan 26, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I'd love he followed up on that and explained "why" it's worse
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 26, 2012 10:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i mean i hope he's not rushing for the sake of rushing
but he’ll have been out for a full week on sunday and hope he will use his best judgment as to whether he can actually handle it. if he’s been told he can’t injure it further, and can wear a guard or something, if it’s just a matter of pain tolerance then… why not.
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I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Lets go beat up on Miami
Rose I love you kid but don’t worry about Indiana. This is the reason a lot of people have said that we are not going to win as many games as last season (except for the lockout) is that teams know we are a great team so teams are going to play us harder every night.
I said it here first: If the Bulls have the best record in the league at the end of the season we will win the NBA championship GURANTEED.
And you can take that GURANTEEE to the bank! Amurrica! Fuck yeah!
by Dogfishhead on Jan 26, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Neither of you spelled "guaranteed" correctly, btw.
But yea: fuck yea!
by jpx7 on Jan 27, 2012 9:50 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
didn't spell 'merica right neither
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by boyonthedock on Jan 27, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
At least that was phonetically "correct."
I would have accepted “GARUNTEEED” as a purposeful misspelling, but there’s just no excuse for “GURANTEED.”
Last year was different
We kind of came up from the middle of the pack. Shit I had us at 4 or 5 in the east and ready to play Orlando. But they surpassed that goal. This year everybody know who the bulls are. DRose with the MVP. Now when team play us they have it marked on there calendar. So if we have the best record at the end of the year that means we have played every team with there best ability.
No foul here...but seriously, where's that hand coming from?
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by jrobulls on Jan 26, 2012 4:12 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
Hibbert....
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
its like that boston orlando game
when j-rich just jumped off the bench (in mid game) to play defense….
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And the refs i think
Didn’t T him up for that…smdh
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It's not hibbert
Idk who it is, but there’s someone directly behind Noah. if u look by his waist, on the right of the pic, u can see fingers and the yellow stripe of The pacers jersey and if you look at the hand of the mysterious person that’s all across Noah’s face, you can kind of see an ear (I think) that’s not his obviously.
its probably collison
its someone short
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Might be David West,
that arm has a band on the elbow and I think West wears one of those.
It is.
Chicago Bulls center Joakim Noah, right, battles Indiana Pacers forward Danny Granger, left, and David West for a rebound during the second half of an NBA basketball game on Wednesday, Jan. 25, 2012, in Chicago.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/photos?gameId=320125004&photoId=1813917#photo_1814484
"Before the game, we all thought he’d get 20 (points)," Chicago’s Kyle Korver said. "We didn’t know he’d shoot 28." - speaking about JLIII
by chicity773 on Jan 26, 2012 6:28 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"Those aren't pillows!"
Planes, Trains & Automobiles
Taj MaBall
by inkybreath on Jan 26, 2012 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
One thing that has changed ovver the years is how physical the NBA and College level are
For one example is now a lot of the player wear mouth guards and some elbow and need pads. in 20 years the game will be played with shoulder pads
probaly had a 6th Pacers on the floor
the refs wouldn’t call it anyway
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 27, 2012 4:59 AM CST up reply actions
Why not get him to play against the bucks 1st?
He could kinda feel out the pain and see if it’s possible to play through.. I wouldn’t want to risk him against LeBum for his first game back
"I think I can finally say this now. Mom, I finally made it," Derrick Rose 12/2011
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It's somehow less casually racist than your average youtube comment, somehow.
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Jan 27, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
Little update from Gar:
Chicago Bulls forward Luol Deng is making “great progress” in his rehabilitation from a torn ligament in his left wrist. So much so that he may be back on the floor in time for Sunday’s showdown against the Miami Heat.
“When he’s physically able to play is when he’ll play,” Bulls GM Gar Forman said during a charity event at the Mercy Home for Boys and Girls on Thursday night. “He’s obviously made great progress this week. He’s been on the floor. He’s doing some shooting. He’s doing some handling. When he feels, and we feel, he’s physically ready to step back on the floor, he’ll be back on the floor for us.”
“With any injury, there’s a process that we go through,” Forman said. “That’s part of the equation is when the player feels that he’s ready to go. And part of the equation is when the coaching staff, the management and our medical team feels that he’s ready and it’s safe for a player to be out there.”
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 26, 2012 10:32 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I read all of that and all I fucking got out of it was that once again this shit is "a process"
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
by sin on Jan 26, 2012 11:06 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
interesting
that Gar makes it more than clear that it’s not just Lu’s decision to come back…contrary to how Thibs made it sound like it was strictly up to Rose when he wanted to return.
by NormVanBeer on Jan 26, 2012 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
One of the finer politicians of the world
by Option27 on Jan 26, 2012 11:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
thats why they made gar the GM
First off his blood pressure doesnt spiral out of control and he always knows how to evade tough questions and smooth things over with a silky line of BS that the media will eat up. Boring, noncontroversial and looks like bert. I wouldnt have him any other way and someday I hope to meet him again.
Under construction.
by anorexorcist on Jan 27, 2012 11:47 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
its not a process anymore
Its a great process!
by Belize on Jan 26, 2012 11:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
On the Scal play
Take two: Any second-guessing over Derrick Rose’s decision to pass to Brian Scalabrine for the go-ahead shot attempt in the waning seconds of Wednesday’s 95-90 loss to the Pacers existed outside the locker room.
“It was a good shot,” Rose said. “We made the right play. If they didn’t come over, I had a layup. I just tried to make the winning play. I have confidence in my teammates.”
Thibodeau and Rose’s teammates agreed.
“That’s a shot Scal makes all the time,” Ronnie Brewer said.
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 27, 2012 5:04 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
I was fine with it
losing to the pacers is a necessary risk when the reward is SCALABRINE GAMEWINNER SPORTSCENTER HIGHLIGHT OF THE CENTURY
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Jan 27, 2012 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Still MJ...
And though LeBron may not be the killer, he’s the most talented basketball player we’ve ever seen
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 27, 2012 5:51 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
damn, do these people have retrograde amnesia? I would put Larry Bird as a more talented player than LeBron.
by Geo4MVP on Jan 27, 2012 6:21 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i think people classify talent as physical ability.
i find it vague.
by obnoxious american on Jan 27, 2012 8:52 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
yup
in that case, James Johnson is also one of the most talented players ever
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by ThorCo on Jan 27, 2012 9:49 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
That shirt on Vinny
amazing, it accentuates his hair, however, the buttons should be unbuttoned to let the hamburger meat hang out his chest, and for a guy named Vinny, that shirt is far too loose fitting
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James: “Deal.”
Vinny: “Alright, follow me”
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 27, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I think it's a combination of athleticism and skill
However, what about Oscar Robinson?
Part of me thinks
“When is he gonna stfu” Just “ruin” your team….
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Bad move by Rose. He should have kept this thoughts to himself
now the Pacers will play even harder on him and if he doesn’t play very well ESPN douches will burn him
There's surprise that Deng's thinking about playing?
I’m half expecting Bob Love to suit up and a zombified Norm Van Lier (RIP) to be ready to stagger out there. Seems like everybody wants in on this action and who could blame them.
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by Locust_Inferno_666 on Jan 27, 2012 8:14 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
sam's fuckin lost it.
And that’s exactly what the Pacers, quietly now 12-5, did in holding the Bulls to 36 second half points, 16 in the fourth quarter, smothering Derrick Rose, who had just two fourth quarter points, and pounding the Bulls overall on the boards and inside to not only deal the Bulls their first home loss of the season, but raise questions on whether the Bulls this season have enough to beat the Pacers.
by obnoxious american on Jan 27, 2012 9:18 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
lol, my dad actually was talking about this too
but i think he was convinced after i told him no way.
but honestly… if the playoffs started today, they’d have to go through miami to get to us anyway. we could very well not even have to face them anyway.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
"It" has been lost for Sam for a while now.
by jpx7 on Jan 27, 2012 10:22 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
The Pacers remind me of the baby Bulls
they have a lot of energy, a lot of will and some talent. But when playoff time comes they will face the hard truth
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 27, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
"You have fun now, Granger but try shooting > 50% over me"
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 27, 2012 10:40 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
taj is set to return tonight!
never thought i’d be that excited, lol.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Bust out the hard-hats!
And fresh lunch-pails all around!
by jpx7 on Jan 27, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ol' man gibson is dragging his creaky bones out onto the floor, eh?
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Jan 27, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
already had Ol' man gibson
can’t have 2 olds in the same sentence.
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Jan 27, 2012 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
Might not need surgery at all? Dr Sam is at it again
Is there any truth to the rumors that Deng is going to play Sunday against the Heat. Is his injury something he can hurt worse or how are doctors looking at it?
Patrick Dempsey
Sam: I assume he will play. If he’s not having surgery, which I’d have no issue with him having, then I assume he’ll play because there would seem little point not to have surgery and not to play, though I assume there’s some swelling that could go down with a few days off. We’re told he cannot do further damage and it’s the sort of injury that if you skip surgery you may not need it in the long run, though it remains possible he won’t be able to play with it, or will get banged right away as teams will go after it. And then he likely would opt for surgery.
I enjoy how precious little real information is contained in that response.
Sam should just rename his blog Musings.
The sheer number of injuries worries me.
Mostly because it starts being a shell shocked situation. Like Deng the medical staff might very well allow a player to play far too soon when so many others are out on any given day. No one wants to see the Bulls embarrassed against the Heat but if it means we are better off come playoff time I’d rather us lose this game. Thibs can’t seem to stop himself from playing Rose or Deng a ton of minutes when they are available.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Jan 27, 2012 2:05 PM CST reply actions
Taj plays Sunday. Luol sits.
I don’t want to hear another word about it!
by El Toro de Goro on Jan 27, 2012 3:02 PM CST reply actions
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