Luol Deng's injury necessitates a judgement call, here's to hoping he's right
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 24, 2012 11:25 PM CST
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News broke swiftly and depressingly on Tuesday as the severity of Luol Deng's injury was announced, a ligament tear on his left wrist meaning at the least missing the next few games, but most likely being a concern the rest of the season.
Courtesy of the Trib here's the lengthiest video (not embeddable, sorry) I could find of Luol Deng discussing the injury. And the Sun-Times has the bulk of the quotes. For his part, the guy sounds matter-of-fact and confident, referencing the same 2005 injury on his other wrist:
This time around I'm familiar with it. It's on my left which is not like having it on my right (or shooting hand). I know how it feels pain-wise and am just trying to get it down to a certain level where I can play again. I'm really confident in the fact that I'll be out there. Hopefully soon, but I'll be out there...I really feel like we have a very good chance of doing something special and I feel like without the surgery I'll be fine. I know what I can do with it and what I can't do. I really think I'm going to be really effective out there. There will be days when it's sore. We'll try to control how sore it gets. Everybody's body responds differently to it. But I'm very confident I'll be able to handle it.
I have no use for Thibs' quotes on the matter. He clearly is as uncomfortable talking about injuries (Skiles was the same way) as he is about being subjective in allotting minutes to potentially-overworked players. He and Luol couldn't even get straight whether Luol recently dribbled a basketball or not. That's fine, it's not Thibs job to expand his duties beyond fantastic coach to also play doctor.
I'll leave that to reporters, like Sam Smith!:
Doctors generally recommend surgery with such injuries, though doctors tend to recommend surgery, based on at least my own observation.
Deng was told he wouldn’t do any more damage without surgery, though he will have pain. He’ll receive regular treatment. This also is the kind of injury that if left untreated can heal. There are records of people having such an injury and not knowing exactly what it is and it eventually healing.
Still, it can be very painful and more so in a contact sport and the possibility of surgery remains open.
KC Johnson had more useful reporting in saying that Luol's "doctors suggested he have surgery to repair".
It was mentioned in both pieces Luol's injury history and the dovetailing narrative of him succumbing to them. To me they're entirely different matters. Yes, outside of last season, Luol's been injury prone. But any suggestion of a lack of toughness was never really justified, even when it was done through official Bulls communications (thanks Doug for the reminder). So I hope that Luol's can-do attitude, including him mentioning a possible return on Sunday in Miami, isn't some way to prove anything, least of all to the fans.
As to considering the surgery option, I'm not sure how to take Smith's report that Luol can't do any more damage to it playing NBA basketball. It seems unlikely to be true, and it doesn't rule out causing more pain which would necessitate the surgery eventually. The consensus return date from surgery seems to be 3-4 months, and figuring the time needed to fully work one's way back from that kind of procedure it's no guarantee that he'd be 100% for the playoffs even if the surgery was today. So maybe they figure why not just be less than 100% now, and Luol plays when he can, instead of enduring a guaranteed absence.
Kelly Dwyer tries to squint and see some kind of silver lining in Luol getting some rest from Thibodeau, but I'll believe that when I see it. And that's partially because of Deng himself, as he admitted today he knew his injury was serious at the time, but still told Thibodeau he could come back in to stop that dreaded Bobcats comeback on Saturday.
And short-term, it's not as awful as it would be for the not-insanely-deep teams, as Ronnie Brewer can do a respectable Deng impression (though he couldn't take Taj Gibson's minutes like Deng could...hurry back Taj and save us from Scal) But, big picture, things look quite dim, with a now likely best-case for the Bulls being that their two most important players will be less than optimal for the duration of this long season and postseason run. And if Deng's plan fails and a (then) season-ending surgery is required, it would effectively sink their shot at the Finals.
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uhhh
Doctors generally recommend surgery with such injuries, though doctors tend to recommend surgery, based on at least my own observation.
wtf is he trying to say? Is he being redundant, or did he just fail on a negative in there somewhere?
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I think he's just trying to say that doctors always push for surgery
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 24, 2012 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
indeed and they are right :)
i cringe on the idea deng jamming his wrist again (knock on wood*). Too much risk involved.
you take your 'doctors', I'll trust in Sam.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 24, 2012 11:42 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, I have no clue
I’ve never had a similar injury, so I can’t speak to the type of pain he’ll be in. I guess we just have to trust in him that he’s smart enough to know whether he can actually contribute. It does make sense that the injury can’t be hurt worse, though.
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 24, 2012 11:44 PM CST up reply actions
No offense to Deng
Because I love the guy, but saying that the injury can’t be hurt worse is like saying a dead guy can’t be killed. Ligaments don’t heal, but bones and muscle around them can pick up the slack for the ligaments deficiencies…to an extent. I’m just judging by where he grabbed on his wrist it looks like he was grabbing the flexors instead of the extensors which if it is his flexors, I breathe a little easier because it requires more for extension than it does flexion.
What I’m more worried about than his injury is if he is able to tolerate it actually. Sitting out will help. But if he comes back will he be able to handle the damage in such a short schedule. I know he’s a tough guy, but sometimes our bodies won’t allow things sometimes.
Thank God its not his shooting hand. That’s what I’m really happy about.
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I had a damaged ligament on my thumb, was told close to tearing
I got a brace to wear for a month and really couldn’t do a lot with the hand. Swelling was bad for the first week, as was the pain. But then it only hurt when actually doing anything. I tried to play some basketball and the pain wasn’t bad while playing, but it hurt bad afterwards. Doc mentioned surgery but like they said above, was told it should heal on its own with rest and time.
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It's like he started a sentence
and then just forgot about it.
Worry Not
What’s with this laid back schedule the NBA laid down? Surely we could have crammed all 82 games into it, right? Every team will be depleted by the time the playoffs come, so I do not see the big deal everyone is making. At least the Bulls’ players can play through them… thus far. I assume they will have to allow crutches and walking boots in the playoffs, which bodes well for all teams.
All the sissy talk is nonsense, but I think it's fair to say that Luol is injury prone
I mean, isn’t this his third injury where he was seriously hurt on a seemingly harmless play? But whatever, hard to get down on a guy for bad luck.
And if Deng’s plan fails and a (then) season-ending surgery is required, it would effectively sink their shot at the Finals.
Unfortunately I agree, and this is also why the front office should look to consolidate some of this talent we have into another superstar (not that they haven’t already, who knows). This is an argument that’s been had here before, but when your team is so reliant on the contributions of many players in order to win big, it’s difficult to sustain success. Whereas if it’s say, just Rose and Howard, for the most part you just have to worry about keeping those two healthy to compete in the playoffs
Injuries. Fuck.
exactly, i wish they would do the surgery and at worse hell be out two months
idk bout deng being injury prone b/c he def doesnt have the injury history like elton brand or a young player like stephen curry is def injury prone. Alot of his injuries have been bad luck and keep in mind this is his wrist we are talking about. Its a very easy place to injure esp in contact sports like bball. I have sustained a sprained wrist; however, not as bad like deng. It healed, but it took a good 2-3 weeks.
where do you get 2 months?
KC says 3-4, Sam said 3 and he’s a doctor.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 24, 2012 11:58 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
I don't get the doctor thing
He doesn’t act that way at all. You just hate Sam and want to rip on him.
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wait wait wait
you mean yfbb is unneccesarily vindictive? get outta here.
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by paddyfairview on Jan 25, 2012 7:01 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm pretty sure EVERYONE named Sam is a doctor
you’re just in denial!!!
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by Prevenge on Jan 25, 2012 8:35 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
what the hell?
i thought u might have joined recently. but since 2008 and ur just finding this out?
You always were second best! And in this business, Bub, second best don't *cut* it!
doesn't that increase the risk?
Wouldn’t it be harder to keep 2 guys healthy if they’re so critical to our success?
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-JBJ, referring to Dwight Howard
No
If we have five guys (let’s say Rip, Rose, Boozer, Noah, Deng), and we NEED each one to be healthy to win a title, that is much more difficult than keeping two guys healthy, just based on odds. In this scenario, Boozer, Deng, Noah and Rip each have just as much team value to the Bulls as Howard, only the odds of an injury happening are multiplied by 4. That’s without factoring in injury histories and all that.
That being said, it would truly have to be a superstar of Dwight’s caliber to make that kind of trade off
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 25, 2012 1:42 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not even sure if that's true the way this season has unfolded
I’m starting to believe Thibs when he says this team has more than enough talent to win
by Option27 on Jan 25, 2012 2:34 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, but things are a lot different in the playoffs. His defense and rebounding will be huge
No doubt we can continue to play well during the regular season without him for a while
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 25, 2012 2:56 AM CST up reply actions
I don't disagree with your logic, just this initial assumption
If we have five guys (let’s say Rip, Rose, Boozer, Noah, Deng), and we NEED each one to be healthy to win a title
Seems to me that if your talent is spread out, then you’re better equipped to make up for the loss of one player with the 2nd unit. I mean, Rip’s barely played and we’ve still been steamrolling through the league so far. Especially so far the drop off from Boozer/Noah hasn’t been huge to Taj/Asik. And hell, even though Rose is a superstar, CJ and Lucas have held their own to the point that our record hasn’t suffered.
Now if we swap 2 of those 5 for Melo, Howard, whoever. Suppose then either Rose or that new superstar gets hurt. Then we’re f’ed. With less depth, those 2 would have to play heavy minutes, and with those minutes would come an increased risk of injury.
Of course this is countered by the idea that with more depth, heavy minutes isn’t necessary…which hasn’t really been the case for Deng. Who knows, maybe if Thibs had Howard or Melo they’d only play 30 min a game.
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by SidM on Jan 25, 2012 7:52 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I was kinda looking at it in a bubble
If we’re really gonna dig in to that hypothetical situation, it gets kinda dicey seeing as there’s no way of knowing what players Howard and Rose would be surrounded by. So you can’t say the Bulls would be more equipped because of Taj, CJ whomever, cause that assumes that Howard and Rose would be playing with a team of Scalabrines. This isn’t “the Bulls” vs. “Howard and Rose”, this is “Deng, Boozer, Noah, Hamilton, Rose” vs “Howard and Rose”, and which team is less likely to suffer a crippling injury.
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 25, 2012 8:18 AM CST up reply actions
I guess I would say the Howard Rose team is more likely to be crippled by injury
because an injury to either is crippling. The former team is only really crippled if Rose goes down.
But yeah, this is a dead end discussion. Really it boils down to our respective opinions of how vital the non-rose bulls players are.
"Shame he’s such a goofy fuckface."
-JBJ, referring to Dwight Howard
I would say that relying on two players to carry your team
is more risky than relying on five. Let’s look at it from an expected value standpoint. If we assume that on a two star team the two stars each contribute 50% of the team’s total points and each have a 20% chance of getting injured it would follow that the expected value for each game would be 80 points, assuming the the team scores 100 points per game. (2 *(.5 * .8 * 100)) = 80. Using the same assumptions, a five player team would also score 80 points per game. (5 *(.2 * .8 * 100)) = 80.
However, we can probably assume that the risk of injury on a two man team would be higher on the two star team than it is on the five player team. With Thibs already playing his stars an inordinate amount of minutes, we are probably looking at 40+ minute games for Howard and Rose. More minutes means more fatigue. More fatigue means their is a greater chance that the player is relying on a muscle or ligament that he wouldn’t otherwise be relying on if he weren’t so damned tired. All of this leads to a higher probability of more injuries.
Thus the .8 figure in the first calculation should probably be reduced giving the five player team a higher expected value. Yes, it is sexy to say that you have two superstars on your team but from a win probability, it is probably more prudent to rely on the five man team.
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i feel like if we dont win the title
we need to look at moving jo and lu while they are worth something before they officially get tagged as injury prone by the rest of the league
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
I'll agree with this
I don’t even think it has to be both. If you could swing one or the other for an upgrade in talent, that would be great. I feel like Jo or Deng with Mirotic and the Charlotte pick would be nice for any rebuilding team. But you wait out this season. Several contracts are up this year anyway and restructuring to a certain extent might be necessary.
Ya with the Bulls' window closing so fast something needs to be done now.
Rose will be 24 and maybe looking to retire by then. Deng and Jo will have proved their uselessness if the Bulls don’t win this year. We might as well blow this team up if we don’t win it all.
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Heres to hoping that while miserable due to constant pain that Deng helps lead us to where we tryna go. The question is how much of his game will be affected by playing hurt. Hopefully not to much. The bulls are on a mission and the troops know what they have to give to succeed. Not too many times do players have a chance at a ring. Seems Deng is gonna attempt to do his part. Let the pansies have surgury when we could be on the cusp of greatness. I cant see MJ, kobe, larry bird, or magic sitting out this situation when theres something to contribute. Heres hoping the best for Deng.
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by Rose2RipKaboom! on Jan 25, 2012 12:18 AM CST via Android app reply actions
in before somebody suggests Brandon Roy
also, in before we trade for John Salmons
Deng should get this taken care of now
I wish Luol Deng would just have his wrist surgery now rather than wait a few weeks, come back, cause further damage, and then have surgery which at that point would be season ending. To hell with the first seed. I think the Bulls have a better chance at beating Miami with Deng and no home court advantage than they do with home court advantage and no Deng. When it comes to a LeBron James team, home court is nothing in the mind of the refs. I want Deng to get his wrist take care of now so he at least has a chance to come back for the playoffs. We absolutely cannot beat the Miami Heat in a seven game series without Luol Deng.
As much as losing Deng for the playoffs would suck, I don't think we'll be completely sunk
It just makes the margin of error really small. Everyone else is gonna have to bring their A game (especially boozer and Noah), but we have the depth to survive. But of course, here’s hoping it doesn’t come to that.
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by Poloplaya14 on Jan 25, 2012 1:18 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
3 to 4 months?
If that’s the case, he’ll probably be ready for the playoffs. Maybe not till the second round or so but based on how well he played at the beginning of the season with essentially no training camp, I wouldn’t be worried about his performance once returning. Now I really want him to have the damn surgery
Coming into an NBA season after a summer break
where, presumably, he was still doing a lot of working out, and keeping himself in shape, then working his way into things with all the other players, is a lot different than rehabbing a serious injury for months and being thrust into high level games against elite competition. We saw it with Noah last year.
Personally, I’ll just take his word for it. If he thinks he can play through it, and still be close to what he was, I don’t see anything wrong with it. But if he starts sucking, and/or missing big patches of games due to pain, then it will be obvious that he made the wrong choice (and unfortunately it’ll be too late). We’ll just have to wait and see what happens
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 25, 2012 3:01 AM CST up reply actions
He could still stay in basketball shape
And luckily (not really that lucky) it’s on his non shooting hand.
I’d like to believe he’d come back strong. Maybe not what we’re used to seeing but much better of than he’ll be with the injury
why no mention of jimmy????
just kidding. but for reals this no surgery idea just sounds dumb and like hes rushing back when you combine it with his supposed hinting at trying to play on sunday.
just dumb. get surgery. get healthy. playoffs are all that matters. dont mean shit what we do in the regular season.
id rather be the 8th seed and have a healthy team
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
and hey just to be positive
mavs lost caron and everyone counted them out but they still pulled a title out of their asses. maybe we can too!
go jimmy!!
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by Locust_Inferno_666 on Jan 25, 2012 5:38 AM CST reply actions 6 recs
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by Alex Sonty on Jan 25, 2012 8:35 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
K.C Johnson @KCJHoop: Thibs "optimistic" Deng will play Sunday after having his head/spine inserted into cybernetic body: "He feels pretty good."
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by Locust_Inferno_666 on Jan 25, 2012 8:54 AM CST up reply actions 6 recs
When Lu does come back...I will cringe every time he tries to take a charge.
BTW do we know what play he injured the wrist on? I don’t remember seeing it.
Ya know, I was just thinking a bit
and I DEFINITELY don’t want him to get surgery. If he get’s surgery, and isn’t ready for the playoffs, we’re totally fucked. Meanwhile, if he opts to play through the pain, we have time to see what kind of player we’ll be getting. If he looks like a shadow of his former self, that gives the org recourse to find another option. Sure, it won’t be as good as a healthy Luol Deng, but let’s say they can somehow pry Grant Hill from Phoenix, that would be a pretty decent fallback, wouldn’t it? For a team that’s built to win RIGHT NOW, I think this is the right way to do things
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 25, 2012 8:36 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
This is basically my line of thought.
He would be rusty as hell after surgery…and I don’t think there is a guarantee he would be back for the playoffs anyways.
What I really want to know at this point is what amount of time off right now will help him deal better with the pain long term? I just don’t want him to rush back immediately if taking more time will help him deal with the injury to a greater degree.
Its a wrist injury...
On his non-shooting hand. He says he can play through the pain, so he will play through the pain.
This is not the type of injury that should affect his defense or his shooting…I am not really worried as I expect all players to play through injuries at some point in their careers.
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by Dionysus2.0 on Jan 25, 2012 8:41 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Right
Plus, maybe he won’t try to take the ball on the fast break!
Injuries. Fuck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 25, 2012 8:44 AM CST up reply actions
if it is 3-4 months
and he will play thru pain
and assuming he will do the same with the olympics
Deng will have surgery by the end of August
So he would return next season by November/December
eh
if he needs surgery, he’ll have it in time to be back by the start of next regular season, great britain be damned. when you make that kind of money, you need to get your priorities straight – if he delayed his surgery because of the olympics and missed actual NBA games because of it there would rightfully be an uproar from fans and his teammates and coaches.
by John T. Unger on Jan 25, 2012 8:51 AM CST up reply actions
I think it would be totally understandable
he’s The Player for UK in the London Olympics. I wouldn’t mind if he loses a few reg season games. Specially to be a healthy and defend the championship we will win this year ;)
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 25, 2012 8:56 AM CST up reply actions
i suppose if we win the championship this year
and he wants to do a victory lap in the olympics, i could probably find it in my heart to forgive him if he misses a few games. short of that, i see no circumstance in which this would be acceptable.
by John T. Unger on Jan 25, 2012 8:59 AM CST up reply actions
The Finals extend all the way through the end of June this year.
I wouldn’t shed a tear if both Derrick and Deng didn’t play in the Olympics this summer personally. Rather have them rest up. Knowing them though, they will play, which is their right.
by bleigh82 on Jan 25, 2012 9:33 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That is, of course, if the Bulls reach the Finals.
Which with the Rose and Deng injuries seems a little less likely this week. We will see how they both hold up.
Saw this coming, unfortunately.
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by Brigade17 on Jan 25, 2012 9:12 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Why not just rest it 2 months and then go at it?
No surgery, but resting it for a month or 2….
The 3-4 months is too much.. if its a 8-90 day deal then id say do the surgery and try to have 5-10 games before playoffs to be ready…. this coming back during the playoffs isnt going to work…unless he is to come off the bench, it would not work out if he were to come back as starter ready to defend Pierce, lebron, Carmelo
I like brewer, but we are otehrwise really thin at the 3… korver?, bewer is great but more of patchwork, and sort of undersized since he is a 2 guard…Taj, well he can defend many at SF but not the solution either…his shooting sucks too anyways….and Butler is so far in the rotation i dont think we can hope all of the sudden he will play int eh rotation and be an asset.
haha… damm yah..salmons would be nice but let get real…. anything realistic out ther on freeagents… or a trade-4-darftpick ??
by IIQuickSilverII on Jan 25, 2012 9:41 AM CST reply actions
From a occupational therapist's point of view....
I may have a little insight on the thought process and prognosis/diagnosis of Luols torn wrist ligament. Just based on the way he fell and the reports of his pain in his thumb, I am guessing he has a torn scapholunate ligament.
The wrist has 8 small bones so it is a pretty complex joint. The scaphoid bone and lunate bone are both located near the thumb or radial aspect of the wrist. It is actually the most common wrist/ligament injury in sports.
With this injury there are varying diagnosis based on the tear ranging from partial tear to complete tear. My opinion is that luol has a more severe partial tear. This means that the ligament was likely torn (or sprained) but not a complete tear. With a partial tear that athlete or person is able to try non-surgical options to start. He would need 2-6 weeks of minimizing activity and doing treatment/therapy. Then he could start wearing a brace/splint on wrist and re-start activities. If this option fails and does not heal on its own, then surgery is warranted.
If Luol had a complete tear in which the scaphoid and lunate bones are “gapped” or seperated then surgery would be recommended initially.
So based on the information we heard, and the choices Luol has made. I am feeling that he may just have a more advanced partial tear that he/doctors are hoping will heal by itself in the upcoming weeks/months.
This is likely why he has opted against immediate surgery and instead chosen to play with the wrist after this initial healing period.
Obviously I am not a doctor, but as an occupational therapist I do work with splints/braces and exercises for patients with wrist injuries. Most patients opt for non-surgical options anyways due to the risk factors with ROM (range of motion) following surgery.
Anyways, this is my best guess about his diagnosis and I thought I’d pass it all along to you.
by K_yle33 on Jan 25, 2012 10:02 AM CST reply actions 11 recs
Wow. Great insight...thanks for sharing.
If he needs 2-6 weeks…I hope the Bulls keep winning at a good clip and he gets the 6 weeks to let it heal as much as it possibly can. I fear some losses will put pressure on Lu to come back too quickly.
wow, nice explanation
the kc article states that it was diff from kobe’s, which i found from an article is a lunotriquetral tear… so that falls in line that it’s not the same thing.
def hope you’re right and that he can get back fairly quickly… without compromising his health…
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by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
yeah, i read that too
actually they say a scapholunate is a little worse that a lunotriuetral tear because there is more pain around the thumb, which is likely why Kobe is still able to shoot with his R hand. Also, why in 2005 Deng likely needed surgery since it was his R hand.
makes sense.
also it is def a huge difference that it is his off hand. just glad for that.
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by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Hooray for real doctors!
And Thibs said, Let there be three's, and Deng shot threes
And Deng saw the three's, that they were good
And didn't shoot long two's anymore
by windycitywarrior on Jan 25, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
yeah, a partial tear is def why deng was contemplating on his options...
they said he will be out for min of one week (which actually should be two weeks). My biggest worry is any more damage to that wrist can end his season (knock on wood).
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here's hoping deng's injury is the motivation we need to win it all this year
by Belize on Jan 25, 2012 10:54 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah somehow this is LeBron's fault.
DESTROY LEHOMOPHOBIC SLUR.
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 25, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
is brick
a homophobic slur?
Waiting for the Prodigal Son to Return KH12 BITCHES!!!!
In the Chemi-meter we trust!
Hmm
Not one mention of Jimmy Butler and his 35.6 PER yet…
that PER is from garbage time...so... i think more is needed..
I think you dont have to convince us anyways.. you have to convince thibs
by IIQuickSilverII on Jan 25, 2012 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
Why don't you be a man and eat a sandwich.
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 25, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
and stay in the kitchen
…wait…
Waiting for the Prodigal Son to Return KH12 BITCHES!!!!
In the Chemi-meter we trust!
You must be swift as a great typhoon
…wait
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
by T.Moore on Jan 25, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
With all the strength of a raging fire?
And Thibs said, Let there be three's, and Deng shot threes
And Deng saw the three's, that they were good
And didn't shoot long two's anymore
by windycitywarrior on Jan 25, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Mysterious as the dark side of
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
by Prevenge on Jan 25, 2012 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Waiting for the Prodigal Son to Return KH12 BITCHES!!!!
In the Chemi-meter we trust!
by piccolomair on Jan 25, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
The more players we lose to injury, the better our chances of winning the title this year!!
Reverse psychology FTW!!!!
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