I am over my Tyrus Thomas man crush

by Stacey "Burger" King on Jan 23, 2012 12:10 PM CST

I appreciate Tyrus Thomas is only 10 games back from his injury, but what I saw Saturday night really shocked me. I was a real kool-aid fan of Tyrus (i.e, upside) and hated to see him traded. However, my man crush is definitely over for the former #4 pick. My observations include:

Skinny as a rail and less muscle definition than when he was a Bull
Loves the perimeter way too much
Not in flow of offense - 3rd/4th option bailout jump shooter
No longer a defensive presence

Drafted as a Power Forward Defensive Beast now a wimpy small forward. I will never understand where he got the idea he was a small forward. Good job by GarPax for getting a future #1 before he imploded. What is Silas/MJ thinking?

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I was over mine the last month or two he was here

I still saw all that athleticism, but there came a time to know it would never materialize. He’s just a very dumb in bball IQ player, and that’s ultimately been his downfall.

The kid's out of this world. He's got Allen Iverson speed, Jason Kidd's vision, Chauncey Billups' shooting ability and Michael Jordan's athleticism. How do you guard that? - Pacers coach Frank Vogel.

by majoyenrac on Jan 23, 2012 12:17 PM CST reply actions

he did look really thin

his undoing will likely be his still-existing fixation on being a SF instead of a PF

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 23, 2012 12:30 PM CST reply actions 4 recs

Bobcats actually fed into it a little bit by starting him at SF for his first few games

since they coincided with the Corey Maggette injury, and DJ White was playing well at the time.

Maybe they hoped he’d see how bad he was as a SF and immediately hit the gym.

by runningman on Jan 23, 2012 9:00 PM CST up reply actions

his undoing

will be that he’s a numbskull in an elite athelete’s body.

LeBron is an Asshole

by leeac on Jan 23, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Wow

3rd lowest PER of any forward in the league that plays at least 25 mpg.

That trade keeps looking better and better

by tuff-gong on Jan 23, 2012 12:48 PM CST reply actions 3 recs

he hasn't been good.... but

10 games played – it might be too soon?
here are the numbskull’s PERs, by year
06-07 14.8
07-08 14.6
08-09 15.9
09-10 16.5/17.1
10-11 18.2
11-12 . 8.3

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by marionette on Jan 23, 2012 11:57 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs

a recc'd bucket of cold water

but i’ve seen his % of shots taken from outside and they seemed WAY too high for the TT I knew. Here’s hoping he turns it around, from one of his many early fans.

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Jan 24, 2012 3:05 AM CST up reply actions

Dude still can't get to 30mpg

His minutes were dropping and this year (an awful start) he’s at almost 26+ a whopping 25% more than he played in the year prior and almost 27% more than his career average.

Call a spade a spade, the guy’s 25 years old now, in his 8th year in the league, making $7.3M, and he still sucks.

Tyrus is not a basketball player, he’s an elite athlete that should have stayed in track.

The kid's out of this world. He's got Allen Iverson speed, Jason Kidd's vision, Chauncey Billups' shooting ability and Michael Jordan's athleticism. How do you guard that? - Pacers coach Frank Vogel.

by majoyenrac on Jan 24, 2012 7:52 AM CST up reply actions

Might it be too soon...

…to stop comparing him to Stromile Swift – and START comparing him to Brad Sellers?…

LeBron is an Asshole

by leeac on Jan 24, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions

watching the game in charlotte tonight vs knicks

never seen tt have such a weak game playing 30+ before

(charlotte’s offense is a mess though, and no augustin tonight)

ronpaul2012dotcom - it is important

by marionette on Jan 24, 2012 8:22 PM CST up reply actions

I spent many years trying to argue that somehow trading LaMarcus for Tyrus made sense...

and I was glad to stop fighting that fight.

by paxson43 on Jan 23, 2012 1:38 PM CST reply actions

I think its safe to say we lost that arguement

I really need to figure out how to change my handle….

by RoseTyrusMancrush on Jan 23, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions

You're tellin me

I have mine tattoo-ed. Not telling where.

by T2fan on Jan 23, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions

"it's your penis"

by obnoxious american on Jan 24, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions

oh god, confliction

to rec for the reference or throw up for the picture

Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live

by Prevenge on Jan 25, 2012 8:18 AM CST up reply actions

the only real argument that exists is

anything that happened before the drose miracle led to that miracle. so ask yourself if you like rose better than aldridge plus, i guess, DJ augustin.

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Jan 24, 2012 3:09 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

I was at the game Saturday, second row.

Tyrus was right in front of me and the first thing I noticed about him was how skinny he looked. He looked kind of malnourished, much lighter than he did as a Bull. It’s not like he was chubby or anything, he just lost a bunch of the muscle he had, which admittedly wasn’t very much.

by dakoose on Jan 23, 2012 2:21 PM CST reply actions

We're over Tyrus...

but we’ll always have the Boston playoff series.

by El Toro de Goro on Jan 23, 2012 2:22 PM CST reply actions 6 recs

I'll always have a soft spot for this highlight

Tyrus makes Lebron look like he has no hops

but yeah…that ship has sailed

"Shame he’s such a goofy fuckface."
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by SidM on Jan 23, 2012 3:01 PM CST reply actions 2 recs

I saw thru the Tyrus charade by his 3rd year. Being able to jump high is great but when you can’t back that up with smart play or basic basketball skills…it’s worthless. We all made so many excuses for the guy. I remember the first time someone mentioned Taj is a better player than Tyrus, people were heated! Now it’s just common knowledge

by C Smoove on Jan 23, 2012 3:13 PM CST reply actions

There was a lot of Taj hatred

because of some fans love of Tyrus. Looks like the organization knew what they were doing when they traded him. I’m glad we have Taj.

by sue369 on Jan 23, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions

it wasn't just the love of tyrus

it was also the way it happened. it was pretty outrageous to have him just lose his starting spot to injury. he got injured 4 games into the season so it wasn’t fair to say he was sucking or not. it would have been outrageous no matter who it was. people didn’t really hate taj, just what he represented.

Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.

by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST

by Jaina on Jan 23, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions

It wasn't Taj's fault Tyrus lost his

starting spot but he took the brunt of the abuse by people in here. I never said Tyrus sucked or not I just said they made the right decision to trade him.

by sue369 on Jan 23, 2012 5:33 PM CST up reply actions

no, i know

what i’m saying is it didn’t matter… who it was. they would have gotten hate cause of the situation.

by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST

by Jaina on Jan 23, 2012 5:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

NO ONE LOVED TYRUS

"Why can't Chapu be MVP of the league?" - Derrick Rose

by chapuforyou on Jan 23, 2012 9:36 PM CST up reply actions

LIAR

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Jan 24, 2012 3:14 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs

Was it hard work,talent and great character,

which is what Taj represented and some people hated?

by chicagobulls4ever on Jan 23, 2012 5:35 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

how do you represent something when people don't know who you are?

by Basketball Smurf on Jan 23, 2012 6:40 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs

You're right, Bulls fans hate those guys.

That’s why Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah and Luol Deng are mercilssley booed every time they touch the ball at the UC. Fuck those guys, working hard to improve themselves. Give me Andray Blatche.

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 23, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

7 day drey!

And by 7 days he means “I worked hard for 7 days this year and none of them coincided with an actual game of basketball”

Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live

by Prevenge on Jan 25, 2012 8:21 AM CST up reply actions

Taj is so fucking old.

"Why can't Chapu be MVP of the league?" - Derrick Rose

by chapuforyou on Jan 23, 2012 9:37 PM CST reply actions 9 recs

remember when we wondered if the bulls should trade tyrus for amare or not?

yeah. that was cool.

by obnoxious american on Jan 24, 2012 10:37 AM CST reply actions 5 recs

Skiles saw it coming a long time ago

You always were second best! And in this business, Bub, second best don't *cut* it!

by Yibs on Jan 24, 2012 12:51 PM CST reply actions

Why did we trade LM for TT

was any reason given?

by cayal on Jan 24, 2012 8:23 PM CST reply actions

Pax wanted Tyrus instead of LMA anyways, so he managed to get Viktor Khryapa as a throw-in.

Genius!

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Jan 25, 2012 12:11 AM CST up reply actions

And saved some money in the deal overall

And at the time LMA was seen as a talented but indifferent kind of player….whereas Tyrus was all raw athleticism and raw talent that could have been something.

LMA was teh safer choice, but wasn’t really seen to have the ceiling he’s already achieved (and he’s getting better still), and Tyrus was the riskier choice, but the Bulls at the time were thought to be an up and coming team with Ben Wallace coming on board, and in that circumstance, it made sense to go with the raw talent with high upside, than the safer choice but one who was thought to be more a likely possible starter (not an elite PF).

I understood the pick at the time, and early on LMA wasn’t bad but really wasn’t showing the kind of game he’s got now (just seemed to be a nice puzzle piece playing alongside better stars (Roy and hopefully Oden), but LMA turned himself into a star…..and was perhaps the biggest all star snub last year.

The kid's out of this world. He's got Allen Iverson speed, Jason Kidd's vision, Chauncey Billups' shooting ability and Michael Jordan's athleticism. How do you guard that? - Pacers coach Frank Vogel.

by majoyenrac on Jan 25, 2012 8:17 AM CST up reply actions

Hopefully in the end the Tyrus thing won't kill us

If we get a top 5 pick from CHarlotte in a few years to pair with our then 25-27 year old Derrick Rose for the second wave, then that Tyrus pick will look a little better (should that pick turn out), though us getting that from Charlotte was a saving grace.

The kid's out of this world. He's got Allen Iverson speed, Jason Kidd's vision, Chauncey Billups' shooting ability and Michael Jordan's athleticism. How do you guard that? - Pacers coach Frank Vogel.

by majoyenrac on Jan 25, 2012 8:20 AM CST up reply actions

I mean, hey, I wanted Tyrus at the time too.

Oh well. I have a pretty solid history of wanting the wrong player. I’m ashamed to admit that I wanted Beasley over Rose and Hawes over Noah (although the latter is starting to look a little more reasonable).

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Jan 25, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions