Bulls 118, Suns 97: Boozer leads Rose-less Bulls in rout
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 17, 2012 10:38 PM CST
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PrintThe Bulls were definitely in the right thinking they could afford to rest Derrick Rose for Tuesday night's game with two off-days coming up, but it turned out especially well for them in that even a Rose-less team can obliterate whatever attempt at defense the Phoenix Suns put out there. The Bulls set a season high for quarter (39), half (67) and total (118) in what turned out to be a complete laugher.
Looking at the Suns roster it's easy to see the defensive holes, especially in the frontcourt. And while Steve Nash had himself a very nice game, the way he licks his hands before retrieving the inbounds pass made it look like he was literally just waiting for the defensive possession to be over so he could go to (half) work. Even when they set the pace and created some mismatches early, the non-Nash Suns are just good enough to attempt good looks as a byproduct of their point guard, but not nearly good enough to make enough of those attempts to mask their D.
So there's probably not much we can take long-term for this game, but it was a fantastic night at the United Center with a lot of standout performances:
- Can someone aggressively take fadeaway jumpshots? Carlos Boozer was on fire in the first half with 26 points, and though they often came on the jumpers that are often maligned here, he was actively creating space and callling for the ball, something we've rarely seen, yet so needed when Rose doesn't play. The Suns have literally no standard PF to match up with Boozer, and he quickly realized it.
- CJ Watson may have had what will be his best game of the season, though if Rose stays out I suppose 33 minutes won't be that uncommon. Getting 23 points on 12 shots will be tough to repeat though. He also didn't commit a single turnover.
- Rip Hamilton returned and started, and not only chipped in 11 points but had 6 assists as well. His ability to move the ball continues to surprise.
- Joakim Noah hit 2 straight tornadoes in the first quarter and didn't look back, ending up with an old-school (well, hopefully not) Noah line of 13 and 12. Again, won't proclaim all the issues are gone with him and Boozer given the opponent, but taking advantage of weak frontcourts is better than the alternative.
- Luol Deng only played 27 minutes! And a happy birthday to Thibs.
This was just a perfect night for the Bulls. Through aggression and ball-movement they were able to shoot open jumpers or cut unobstructed to the rim all night. You could even say this was the first of 3 off nights.
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Best stat of the night....
Luol Deng only played 27 minutes!
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by Fukudometer on Jan 17, 2012 10:43 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Bulls and Heat both put up 39 pts in a quarter tonight
Bulls in a blowout, Heat in a massive comeback from down 17.
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Sorry, typo
Instead of “Miami Heat” it should say: “6th place Miami Heat”
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by Fukudometer on Jan 17, 2012 10:47 PM CST up reply actions 16 recs
rip has laways been a good passer
he moves well off the ball and continues to be a strong facilitator and scorer. I just love seeing Rip shoot that mid range jumper and I hope he continues his strong play against the cavs.
Btw, i would keep rose out till next week. Seems like the swelling on Rose’s toe has gotten worse and Watson should be able to play well against the next up and coming weak opponents.
After tonight, Bulls have played more games than any other team in the NBA: 16
Clippers have only played 11. WTF.
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I think okc is second to us
Feels like they threw the hard schedule at us young teams thinking we’d be more okay with it
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
That makes too much sense, sin! This is David Stern and his band of lackeys we are talking about!
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
early in the season is betetr for us regardless
the older teams are fucked esp when their schedule is condensed.
It will definitely help later on. It also saves the "do you sit them to rest for the playoffs" questions
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
Also remember that the NBA is doing a lot to market the Bulls and OKC
D. Rose and Kevin Durant are the next big superstars who are easy to advertise, so Stern probably wanted them on TV more often early, in case there was any lingering effects to the lockout and viewers.
Hopefully thats just the cynic in me though.
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
sin makes sense
2012
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
im only going to make sense until i get to say "i told you so"
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
I think the Blackhawks don't help us in that regard
We have to sched around them….
Though really I’d much rather play more games early in the season, and less late in the season to keep us somewhat more rested for the playoffs (I know it’s slight, but any slight adv may help)
The kid's out of this world. He's got Allen Iverson speed, Jason Kidd's vision, Chauncey Billups' shooting ability and Michael Jordan's athleticism. How do you guard that? - Pacers coach Frank Vogel.
I feel like boozer is only confident against small tweeners and not real power forwards
He just seems to become passive against length and size when he should be using his own size and quickness against them
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
he has shown flashes of doing just that. I think he will figure something out; he went to Duke so that means he's kinda sorta smart, right?
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."
- Carlos Boozer after cancelling an interview with a Sports Illustrated reporter because his wife was expecting him home.
it probably just means someone took his ACT too.
And for the record I don’t care if they did.
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"I can accept failure, everyone fails at something. But I can't accept not trying."
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well, the coming from Coach K thing explains his inability to hedge on a screen or rush towards his shooter on D.
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anyone can get hot and shoot jumpers all day to score 30
is he going to do that for 4 games in the playoffs against the heat? im not counting on it.
id rather see him post up and destroy people in the paint where he can score at a more efficient rate and get to the line as well and rack up fouls on the other team
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
10 of his 21 shots were in the paint
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jan 18, 2012 1:30 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Oh and for comparison, Bosh also put up 30 tonight, and only 6 of his 22 shots were in the paint.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jan 18, 2012 1:57 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
reminds me of that one game against us where he couldn't miss..
Look
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by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Yeah, but Bosh is a very, very good shooting big man.
I won’t hate on Booz too much about last night. His offense made up for his bad D, so he was a + overall. I still don’t like his game but he had it going on last night.
Bosh isn't that much better a shooter than Boozer
This season, Bosh is actually really struggling from range, hitting only 31% from 16-23 feet. Historically, both guys are generally in the low 40%’s on those shots.
Pat Riley is the devil.
come on now....half of them are jumpshots from like 15 ft-ish. thats not really posting up a guy and destroying in the paint
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
Now you're just nitpicking
A 10-ft jumper may still be a jumper, but it’s still a much higher-% shot than a 17-footer. If Boozer continues to use his skills and strength to get shots closer to the basket like he did this game, he’ll be a lot more likely to “get hot”.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jan 18, 2012 3:22 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
you think he's going to do this the rest of the season or the playoffs when it matters?
I want him to do what he was paid and brought here to do which is being our low post threat that will punish teams in the paint and rack up fouls
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
I do agree with this aspect...
I see no reason why he should shoot weak-assed little flip shots right around the rim. Go up strong with two hands and either dunk it or get fouled.
by Paul Warfield on Jan 18, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
It seems like 6 out of 10 times he goes for the aggresive move he gets called for an offensive foul
by tuluse on Jan 18, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Because he doesn't have a quick first step.
Smart defenders can slide over.
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 18, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
also...
because he almost always clears out with his odd hand/arm, and the refs pick that up easily.
by Paul Warfield on Jan 18, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think he's definitely capable of doing that
Whether he will or not is anyone’s guess.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jan 18, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah that's all imsaying
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
those shots within the paint are still not bad shot
he did well and took smart shows that fit within his strengths. Give credt when credit is due.
by Geo4MVP on Jan 18, 2012 8:47 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This chart shows that
Booz was hitting from everywhere
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 18, 2012 8:49 AM CST up reply actions
look at my picture. theyre all fucking jumpshots
he got hot. great. thats ONE game so far out of like 16. against a team with no real power forwards.
you really expect this for at least 4 games in a series against miami? cause i sure as hell dont.
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
He's been shooting well the whole season...
and clearly has more confidence in his shot than last year. It’s one thing to criticize him for not being more effective around the rim, but he’s shooting 53% for the season while relying on the jump shots that you hate so much.
Rebounding well, improved defensively (though admittedly not a great deal), shooting 53% from the field, and he’s a major concern? I just don’t see it.
by Paul Warfield on Jan 18, 2012 7:40 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
While I would like him to post up more
The guy is doing what he is here to do, be the second/third option and rebound. If he is shooting 53% on jumpshots this year and putting up good numbers, then keep doing what you’re doing, Booz
by blackgallagher on Jan 18, 2012 7:41 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think Boozer's shooting is the problem...
He defense is, but that’s not really the discussion here. I think what Boozer’s problem is two things: matchups and performance/mental issues in “big” games. Really, it’s probably all a mental thing with him.
With matchups, on paper he looks good against most anyone that comes against him, but in games it seems like if a larger defender or big name player is on him he doesn’t perform. I think he’s one of those big guys that is afraid to use his size. I feel like he plays like a guy 6 inches shorter and 40 pounds lighter than he is.
On the other point, it seems like he shows up when he starts making baskets, which is a problem against good teams. It seems like as soon as he gets some pressure and can’t get a good look or move he caves in.
It’s all mental with him, and if he’s not established by the end of the first quarter is probably better to bench him.
I understand your point...
but would argue that:
a) he is gaining confidence as his shooting improves
b) having Rip on the court will help both because of the added threat, and because Rip is a good passer
c) therefore the book is still out on how he will perform under pressure in the playoffs.
I do see reason for some optimism.
by Paul Warfield on Jan 18, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
oh god 5 foot jumpshots
what awful shots
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
I think often we don't run plays with him....
The kid's out of this world. He's got Allen Iverson speed, Jason Kidd's vision, Chauncey Billups' shooting ability and Michael Jordan's athleticism. How do you guard that? - Pacers coach Frank Vogel.
I want to see more Rip.
Seems like the offense moved really well through him at the 2. Anyone else think that this team with Rip and Rose healthy and the intact bench mob has a ridiculously high ceiling? i know – phoenix – but still…
by DisCUBbobulated on Jan 17, 2012 11:00 PM CST reply actions
yes, it does have a high ceiling
look what they did to the clippers with rip healthy. He makes alot of difference for this team. Brewer did a good job holding the fort till rip came back, but brewer jsut cant do what rip does on offense. IBrewer is the man on defense, but overall Rip has a bigger impact than Brewer.
No Boozer and Noah in the 4th quarter...
Second night in a row with the game out of reach, yet no one is bitching about it tonight. Winning cures all.
New signature coming...but its a process.
yeah but when the fans bitch wheneevr the team loses, it shows how much they care about the team
However, i agree, if you gotta bitch, make sure you make a logical point about your case.
Happy Birthday Thibs!!
Happy Birthday to my new mother! And Happy Wedding to me!!
Oh, and nice win for the Bulls. Hope Rose is ready by next game.
Just Married...
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jan 17, 2012 11:13 PM CST reply actions 16 recs
CONGRATS! Here's to your new life and hopefully...
a BULLS CHAMPIONSHIP!
And hopefully, in that particular order!!!
Just Married...
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jan 17, 2012 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
Congrats, sir.
Sadly, my self worth is almost entirely based upon the outcome of the previous night's Bulls game.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 17, 2012 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
In honor of the Bulls you should've yelled your vows like Boozer
“I DO!!!”
“GIMME THAT RING!!!!!”
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 17, 2012 11:40 PM CST up reply actions 19 recs
I would do that at the actual ceremony
but I’m certain that, at a Chinese wedding, awful things would befall me.
Just Married...
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jan 17, 2012 11:46 PM CST up reply actions
恭喜你們!
Just stay away from the chicken feet and pig intestines and you’ll be fine. Hopefully you married the one Chinese girl who isn’t a closet psycho.
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jesus youre charming.
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by TheMoon on Jan 18, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
to be fair, chicken feet are really bad.
by obnoxious american on Jan 18, 2012 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah. Don't eat Chicken Feet. Ugh.
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
For serious, if you haven't had any, go to the Phoenix, then don't order the Chicken Feet because they suck.
but their other food is pretty delicious.
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
congrats to you and your lovely new bride
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jan 18, 2012 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
Thank you.
And thanks for assuming that she is lovely and not some dogfaced gremlin.
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jan 18, 2012 12:16 AM CST up reply actions
Dogfaced gremlin
so you’ve met my mother in law eh?
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by ThorCo on Jan 18, 2012 8:15 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Really? Just one rec?
I bet if I said ‘fuck rondo’ you’d all be patting me on the back!
Anyhow, this team is monstrously deep right now. I mean goodness, everyone not named Scalabrine (and I Butler for now) should get some burn every game. As long as they keep playing defense and Rose is healthy (and still killing it in the 4th quarter), there’s no reason this team can’t in a title this year.
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jan 18, 2012 12:16 AM CST up reply actions
Begging for rec's should negate any rec's already there
by Option27 on Jan 18, 2012 12:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Who's begging?
I’m DEMANDING!!!!
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jan 18, 2012 1:03 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Thanks!
I have nothing witty to add this time…
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jan 18, 2012 1:04 AM CST up reply actions
I just got married too.
She looked pretty in the catalog. Not so much in real life.
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by MrBungle on Jan 18, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah well screw you :)
The kid's out of this world. He's got Allen Iverson speed, Jason Kidd's vision, Chauncey Billups' shooting ability and Michael Jordan's athleticism. How do you guard that? - Pacers coach Frank Vogel.
stop youre making yfbb jealous in his basement
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
Nah, but I'm sure he's 'tuning up the banned'
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jan 18, 2012 1:28 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Congrats, for sure. :D
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
Congrats.
"Before the game, we all thought he’d get 20 (points)," Chicago’s Kyle Korver said. "We didn’t know he’d shoot 28." - speaking about JLIII
Married on Thibs Birthday?
You might be destined to hold her to a sub-40% AWP (argument win percentage) with that kind of defensive provenance.
Last comment on this...
since this is China, the wedding date will not always be January 18th. We go by Lunar calendar for important dates, so the anniversary will be different each year on our Solar calendar. :-P
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jan 18, 2012 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
you're lucky I'm in a good mood, SO OT
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 18, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
big up sir
Lemme get an e- vite to your open bar lol
by Belize on Jan 18, 2012 11:47 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
people are still clamoring for a Jamal Crawford, but that player is already on the roster
it’s in the form of CJ Watson. seriously, he seems fully capable of being that type of scorer while still trying to facilitate offense and actually plays D. really need to find him some minutes with Rose, even in crunch time. have him instead of Korver out there.
by BULLieving in Miami on Jan 17, 2012 11:15 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Thibs already expiermented with "big shot" Lucas and Rose and it worked like a fuckin charm against the raptors
CJ and Rose can break down the zone D with alot more ease once Thibs implementing this new strategy. I remember people were laughing at the idea of CJ as the SG, but hey, Im sure he can do a decent job with Rose being the pg.
it feels like SG is more his natural role
by BULLieving in Miami on Jan 17, 2012 11:19 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
i believe he always have been
i have seen him play the SG with the warriors a couple of times and he does quite well (with curry leading the way obviously).
Sigh…damn, if only thibs implemented this strategy last yr against the heat. Who knows…we might have won :(
I was clamouring for this all last season
but the few times Thibs did try it, it never seemed to work (and he tried it a few times). Therefore, if he doesn’t attempt this I’m fine with it.
Well CJ's a better facilitator and defender than Crawford....
The kid's out of this world. He's got Allen Iverson speed, Jason Kidd's vision, Chauncey Billups' shooting ability and Michael Jordan's athleticism. How do you guard that? - Pacers coach Frank Vogel.
Definitely a better defender
I don’t know that one’s clearly better as a facilitator.
Crawford's a black hole
The kid's out of this world. He's got Allen Iverson speed, Jason Kidd's vision, Chauncey Billups' shooting ability and Michael Jordan's athleticism. How do you guard that? - Pacers coach Frank Vogel.
He has an assist % of 23.6 so far this year
That number is pretty high for someone who’s primarily a SG. He’s far from a black hole. That’s only slightly behind a PG like Jeff Teague who is at 27.6%.
Yes, he has bad shot selection and doesn’t necessarily work within an offense, but he is willing to give the ball up.
by runningman on Jan 18, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rip is so perfect for this team
I don’t even care that he takes a lot of mid range jumpers. They look so much better with him on the floor. And I had no idea he was such a good passer. He even ran the pnr with Booz a few times and was fantastic
Sadly, my self worth is almost entirely based upon the outcome of the previous night's Bulls game.
He's having fun playing with unselfish players
In chicago, you can give up the ball knowing if you get open, you’ll get the ball back.
In Detroit, if you pass the ball, it ain’t coming back
Completely agree.
His value will be tremendous in the playoffs when things slow down in the half court.
Open mid-range jumpers aren't a problem
The silly shots are those long 2s that are a step or two inside the 3 point line. You have all of the risk of a low percentage shot, without the reward of getting 3 points if it goes in.
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by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 17, 2012 11:41 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
He already has an old man game (and I mean that in the best possible way)
He’s just so chill out there, and always seems to make the right decision. I’d like to see him take more shots, so we can get a better feel for where his jumper is at, but in the little time he’s been out there, he’s looked very impressive
Sadly, my self worth is almost entirely based upon the outcome of the previous night's Bulls game.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 17, 2012 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
I was hoping he would get some more minutes in the game tonight.
Really like what I’ve seen so far, though it hasn’t been a lot.
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I was watching him closely as there wasn't much else to do at the end of the game
And I don’t care for his defense. He got hung up on screens easily, and generally seemed nervous about where to be.
as the last pick in the draft
and a rookie who only gets a couple of minutes every third game playing with a future HOF’er in Scalabrine, I’d be nervous too
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damn I am off today
thanks for the catch
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Hey now
Boozer and Omer Asik would like to have a word with you
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by ThorCo on Jan 18, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Korver too
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 18, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
oh ya
And Bogans :P
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Asik's a bit of a special case due the the overseas stuff. He easily could have been a lottery pick.
I'm old enough to remember
multiple round drafts, though I don’t remember exactly how many. At least six.
by El Toro de Goro on Jan 18, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
Where would all the players go? The NBADL would love that.
If the NBA Draft went to 3 rounds, Ridiculous Upside would explode.
I'm not really concerned
I would be nervous as hell trying to fit in with the best defense in the league, but the fact remains I don’t think he can get big minutes until he better understands Thibs defense and does a better job fighting through screens.
the ONE thing i didn't like about tonight...
Why did Thibs play Hamilton in Bogans’ minutes? Hamilton started both halves, and never checked in again when he came out. I’m hoping that this is just Thibs letting Hamilton a light load on his first game back, especially in a blowout, but I do have the concern that for some reason Thibs thinks Hamilton is the new Bogans.
err, its def a light load dude coming off a groin injury
hell avg 25-30 mins a game…
i def think
that yes it’s just giving rip a light load in a blowout. guy wasn’t needed more than he was on the floor, was a nice game to try to work himself back in.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
I guess everyone needs something to worry about
If you’re worrying that your just-returned-from-a-groin-injury SG didn’t get a bunch of minutes during a 30 point blowout, and this somehow means he’s going to play 15 minutes a game for all time, you’re really stretching.
by runningman on Jan 18, 2012 8:59 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
no kidding
I was worried he was gonna play too much, considering the context of the game.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 18, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
Great assist/turnover ratio from the Bulls
Their 31 assist, 6 turnover game was only the third time in the last 27 years that they have had 30+ assists and six or fewer turnovers in a game.
It was also the third game of C.J. Watson’s career where he has scored at least 20 points in a game on better than 60% FG shooting and 60% three point shooting.
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by Mike from Illinois on Jan 18, 2012 12:51 AM CST reply actions 6 recs
Dude, are you angling for a job at Stats, Inc or something?
Keep up the good work, though.
by runningman on Jan 18, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Thanks... I appreciate it
I love basketball-reference.com; it’s great for researching stuff like that.
Chicago Blackhawks... 2010 Stanley Cup Champions, and contenders for 2012
Chicago Bears... as many playoff wins this year as Green Bay... zero
Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions, and contenders for 2012
by Mike from Illinois on Jan 18, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
The Man.The Myth.The Legend. The Highlights.
by trig on Jan 18, 2012 1:00 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
that video has convinced me that while Asik is in
all jumpshots should instead be ally oops
"Shame he’s such a goofy fuckface."
-JBJ, referring to Dwight Howard
by SidM on Jan 18, 2012 9:09 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
they didn't have his block from last night!
"Whenever one finds himself in the majority, it is time to step back and reflect," Mark Twain.
by WindisBlowingOut! on Jan 18, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
rest of the internet going on strike?
hellooooooo BaB
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
by sin on Jan 18, 2012 1:21 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
Prolly isn't likely but maybe teams look at Booz games like tonight and think he just doesn't mesh well with Rose?
Maybe a team like New Jersey takes a flyer on him to make Williams happy (happier)?
Just maybe he has value to other teams?
Maybe I’m losing my mind?
boozer for monta
id be happy with taj starting if we had another scorer like monta
By popular demand I am putting a moratorium on the Melo talk until the Knicks win the title in June.
oh god, please stop
this is worse than melo.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Actually I'd prefer Monta over Melo.
Ellis has proven he can and will create for others. Melo as a point forward is a miserable failure.
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 18, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I would actually go the other way
I agree that Melo’s no point forward, but I think he’s a better passer than Monta when you consider how much more time Monta has the ball.
Pat Riley is the devil.
please stop ur trollin sin
im really sick hearing bout monta.
Man Steve Nash is just awesome
He’s a total joy to watch.
I know he’s not strong enough to be a great defender, but then again he’s a PG and all he really should do is funnel the other team’s into the post….
But the Suns post D is pretty horrendous. Actually their team is pretty horrendous. They have 2 players, Nash is a stud, and Gortat is a solid big, the rest, eh. Maybe Morris will be solid in time (he has some ability) but the rest of that team would be our Scalabrine’s….
I think CJ again proved my theory that he’s a top 3 backup PG right now. He’s a good defender, he can put up some points, he can distribute a bit. He’s good for our team. I htink there’s a chance (though I didn’t watch that game because I was stuck at work) that the Memphis game may have turned out better if CJ started and didn’t come in after they were way ahead (granted I don’t blame THibs for not starting him because of that injury, I’m just saying I think CJ is solid for us), he’s one of the better defensive points too, which is a surprise judging from the limited time I saw him in golden state.
Richard Hamilton proved he’ll be quite the fit for us if he can stay healthy. He has something like 8-6 in the first quarter, and then Thibs didn’t really use him too much since he’s still not quite 100%. I think Hamilton being out there opened up Boozer even more.
I am not quite the Boozer alarmist. He is what he is, not much of a defender (Though he has decent hands, he just doesn’t move and stay in front of his man enough or really play the physical D that you’d think given his size he’s capable of). Conversely though he’s fairly electric offensively and I think the lapse in scoring figures is more from under utilization than him being bad. I mean he’s shooting 53% (mostly jumpers); giving us 18-10 per 36 minutes. His scoring is down to 14.6 this year, but he’s also taking about 2 less FG attempts per game and is having a career low in minutes. Maybe THibs is trying to keep our team more healthy for the playoffs since the injuries to Boozer and Noah kind of killed us in the playoffs…..his PER is now at 19.6, granted after a big game yesterday, but still it’s solid….
I’m still more worried about Joakim than Boozer….but in the last week Joakim’s starting to show some life.
The kid's out of this world. He's got Allen Iverson speed, Jason Kidd's vision, Chauncey Billups' shooting ability and Michael Jordan's athleticism. How do you guard that? - Pacers coach Frank Vogel.
by majoyenrac on Jan 18, 2012 8:32 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Steve Nash is awesome
Some team like the Mavericks should try to grab him to make a push for the finals.
Man if hte Mavs took him back, they'd be totally awesome
No dig on Kidd (who’s still a decent pg, even if old and broken down—he’s still smart), but Nash is better and was better (yes I said it) esp on O and is still very friendly with Nowitzki…
The kid's out of this world. He's got Allen Iverson speed, Jason Kidd's vision, Chauncey Billups' shooting ability and Michael Jordan's athleticism. How do you guard that? - Pacers coach Frank Vogel.
i think people overrated kidd a bit
eso when they say hes better than nash.
by Geo4MVP on Jan 18, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Kidd is a better rebounder, as I recall.
And he has turned himself into a decent three-point shooter. But he was never the scorer Nash is.
Nash is just so hard to defend on the pick and roll because he is equally likely to shoot and make it, drive and make it, or dish to a wide open teammate. There’s just no way to predict what he will do — except that he won’t dunk. And what’s really crazy is how he has retained his skills as he ages, probably because he never really depended on speed or hops. It’s more about skills and smarts with him.
by Tim S. on Jan 18, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Balance.
Nash has impeccable balance.
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
by Prevenge on Jan 18, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Whatever it is, he hasn't lost it.
Or else he has compensated superbly for whatever he lost. His career trajectory is very unusual. He didn’t reach his peak until 32, and at 37 he’s still playing better than he did at 25.
by Tim S. on Jan 18, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah Kidd was great at one time
And is still good when not broken down (mostly because of how smart he is at running the game)
But Nash is ridiculous, he’s one of the best shooters of all time, and is a wizard at the passing lanes.
It’s really a shame Nash is looking less likely to win it all…..
The kid's out of this world. He's got Allen Iverson speed, Jason Kidd's vision, Chauncey Billups' shooting ability and Michael Jordan's athleticism. How do you guard that? - Pacers coach Frank Vogel.
hmmm, for some reason, i feel like the magic r gonna get nash...
jus so they can convince dwight to stay.
kidd is better than nash because kidd plays defense
He guarded Kobe and Kevin Durant very well
by MartyMondays on Jan 18, 2012 11:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nash is a wizard offensively, just a joy offensively
That SUns team with the talent they have should be 0-12 or whatever, should be far worse than the much more talented Wizards (I know that Grant HIll is a natural talent, but he hasn’t been that all star superstar since before his injuries—his post injury all star fan voted nod was more because fans loved him before he showed he’d dump Orlando who spent a billion dollars and 7 years waiting to get decent because of his injuries, just to try to ring chase for less money when he finally got healthy)
Nash tries defensively and while he’s not at all a good defender, if his post defenders were better, his effor would slow them down.
I mean Dirk gets killed for being _irk (or more or less used to), but he’d look like hte DPOY compared to Frye/Morris/Amar’e, etc.
PG’s can only really do so much defending as is (guys are so quick and without the hand checking that’s tough to stay in front of them), some can do what Thibs is teaching Rose (the albeit quicker, stronger, taller, more physical, and faster) Rose to do in staying in front of them and driving them to the generally good post defenders….
I think the rag on Nash’s D is a bit much. He’s not a good defender, true, but his team’s haven’t ever really had good post defense, which is more important than point defense. Nash also always gives that effort.
And regardless, Kidd was never the all out O weapon of Nash offensively. He can hit a shot from anywhere and is just ridiculous at seeing the open holes in other teams defenses.
It sucks that it took Nash really 5 years to be a starter, beause you have to wonder if he’d be closer to that #2 in all time assists when he was done (he wouldn’t touch Stockton).
The kid's out of this world. He's got Allen Iverson speed, Jason Kidd's vision, Chauncey Billups' shooting ability and Michael Jordan's athleticism. How do you guard that? - Pacers coach Frank Vogel.
Stats won't show but Noah and Boozington had great passes too
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 18, 2012 8:53 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I didn't see it live, only the highlights on ESPN
but there was one sequence where we had 3-4 passes in the paint within 2 seconds total. Boozer passes to Noah to Brewer back to Boozer who shoots it open and close. Shit like that is impressive.
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde
by dantheman3k on Jan 18, 2012 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
happy bday thibs...heres hoping you get laid
..in the film room
by Belize on Jan 18, 2012 9:30 AM CST via mobile reply actions
bad day to do it
with all those websites down or limited today
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as long as there is no backcourt violation...
by Belize on Jan 18, 2012 11:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Birthday magic?
Rip and Noah have Feb birthdays as well =)
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by jrobulls on Jan 18, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
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