(UPDATE: Derrick Rose OUT today) Bulls at Memphis Grizzlies: 2011-12 Game Preview #15
[Note by your friendly BullsBlogger, 01/16/12 11:45 AM CST: per KC, Rose out, Rip still out, CJ maybe back. ]
[Thanks to THEKILLERWHALE for today's game preview. Gamethread at...noon! -ed.]
The Bulls once again have the honor of playing in Memphis on MLK day (I personally do not see why this carries prestige since his only association with the town seems to be that he got shot there. People wishing to honor JFK do not immediately think 'Dallas'! ). The narrative surrounding this game seems to be that the Grizzlies are now making their way out of a slump whose source lies in Chicago. In a single game, the Grizzlies lost their star player and were humiliated on the court in a 40 point blowout. As the symbolic origin of their recent travails, the Bulls can expect an extra intense game from a Memphis team hoping to turn things around. On to the match-ups!
Small Forward: Luol Deng vs. Rudy Gay. I have started with this match-up since the Grizzlies recent spate of W's has a lot to do with them returning to their pre-ZBo identity. This means Rudy Gay, the one-time franchise centerpiece. In the past three games, Gay has averaged 21.67 points and has generally been quite dynamic. Luol Deng has been playing well but playing ugly. He has not averaged over 50% from the field recently and even had a 5/21 stinker in Washington. A lot of this had to do with 40+ minutes a night as a lot of his misses seem to arise from a lack of lift. He had big shots when we needed it in the Boston game but a lot of his shots are falling short. Fortunately, Deng took a good part of the second half off against the Raptors and will have a day off before the game. If Deng can challenge shots, restrict access to the paint and box Gay out, the Grizzlies will have a long game ahead of them.
Point Guard: Derrick Rose vs. Mike Conley. Conley was out with an ankle injury in our previous meeting and the Grizzlies looked bad. Even before ZBo got hurt. He was an integral part of this Memphis team when they were clicking in last years playoffs. He is a pretty solid PG and will challenge Rose on the defensive end. As usual, the more aggressive DRose gets, the better the Bulls play. DRose also has an inch or two on Conley so perhaps we will see the post-up game that DRose spent the entire summer working on (which thus far has resulted in all of one forced basket in a preseason game).
Shooting Guard: Ronnie Brewer vs. Tony Allen. Two defense first SG's playing against one another. Look for both of them to score zero points. (Assuming that Rip is still out. No updates from KC yet.)
Power Forward: Carlos Boozer vs. Marreese Speights. I have not seen too much of Speights. Apparently, he is a bit of a black hole. In his first start with the Grizzlies, he touched the ball 22 times. These resulted in 19 shots, 2 turnovers and 1 pass. 1 pass! Talk about cajones! He just strolls into town and puts up 19 on his first night! I have heard complaints that he settles for jumpers too much and does not like to tangle in paint, although the sample size is pretty small (this seems to ring a bell...). Anticipate him and Boozer encouraging one another's worst habits as they each exchange 20 foot jumpers, jog leisurely back to the defensive end of the floor, yell too much and push one another in the back as the other blows by them towards the basket.
Center: Joakim Noah vs. Marc Gasol. Noah really needed that Boston game. He needed to go up against a hated adversary and beat them with hustle and energy. He needed to encounter genuinely distasteful human beings and remember that he too can be one mean SOB. Throw away games against the Wizards were not going to cut it. He needed KG to make him strong again.
Noah will bitch slap Marc Gasol into next Tuesday. Every stereotype about the soft European big man will be validated.
Bench: If CJ is back, I give this to the bench mob hands down (no updates from KC). The Grizzlies bench was pretty productive in the playoffs last year and Mayo had a few huge games with big minutes. He was a non-entity against us earlier this year (unless you count injuring ZBo). However, he is coming off of an 18 point game and maybe got his groove back. Our bench bigs are the best in the league while the Grizzlies can barely fill their starting frontcourt with ZBo sidelined. Expect Taj and Omer to make quick work of whatever Estonian scrub they slap a uniform on.
Coaching: Thibodeau vs. Hollins. There are three match-ups that the Bulls will always win. PG, Bench and Coach. Even beyond that, I think that Hollins does a decidedly bad job. I have argued this on BaB in the past, but I am of the opinion that Memphis routinely under-performs relative to their roster. The only time they were running on all cylinders was last years playoffs and they looked great. This only served to make it all the more infuriating that they do not play that well all of the time. When this happens, there is something wrong with the organization. When ZBo is healthy, they have, arguably, the best starting front-court in the league. This has not translated into results. As much as people think that Mayo is overrated, he was an 18ppg rookie who has now been marginalized and is rotting on the bench. They have had their injury issues, but who doesn't? A solid, well-coached team does not nosedive with one injury, no matter who it is. Sorry, I had to get that rant out of my system.
Go Bulls!
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I don't think marc is soft at all
He can bang down low, and is a better rebounder and defender than his brother. The sheek will shut him down though.
by rocky_mountain_bull on Jan 15, 2012 5:02 PM CST reply actions
marc is def tough
always believed that with im being the main go to guy on offense inside the paint, hes easily a 20-10 guy. However, with randolph, his stats is def deflated.
His size alone...even if he played soft...
Would mean with Noah’s physique he is not gonna be bitch slapped. It’s a funny line perhaps but Noah is going to have to work his butt off with positioning and hustle to outplay him I think.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Jan 15, 2012 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
Actually, over the course of their careers, Pau's been the superior rebounder by a tiny margin
Anyways, he damn well better bang down low more than his brother; he’s 40 lbs bigger.
Pat Riley is the devil.
Yeah, I actually agree completely...
I just get the impression that the old Noah is coming back and felt like being hyperbolic about it. I actually think that it will be a battle at the center position and could see Gasol with at 12/10 game.
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by THEKILLERWHALE on Jan 16, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
Doc Funk in case you missed it

"It was so despicable, it was beyond [the Lakers-Celtics rivalry]; it was a new kind of hatred.". -Flea on the Heat
by paddyfairview on Jan 15, 2012 7:19 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
The Bulls have had a remarkable season so far.
.857 winning percentage, 5-0 at home, 7-2 on the road, second best point differential in the league (after the 76ers, who are likely to come back to earth), and 20 percent of the regular season is over already. Unlike with the 76ers, the Bulls are not playing above their heads. Many of them have yet to play as well as they have in the past. Nor has the team been free of injuries. Their starting shooting guard has been out most of the season, their back-up point guard has been out several games, Rose sat a game and played hurt in others, yet they have not been slowed. All of this with no time for practice.
We worry about Deng and Rose playing too many minutes, about Noah and Boozer living up to their contracts, about a stagnant offense, about whether they can win in the playoffs. I have to remind myself to relish the team we have, which is something special. They had the best record in the league last year, they may well do it again this year, and they will play better in the playoffs this year. We are lucky to be fans of a top contender.
Now I hope they don’t go out an lay an egg. I don’t think they will.
by Tim S. on Jan 16, 2012 2:32 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
THey have also played the most games in the league so far.
the schedule will get relatively more stretched out. Only 5 home games against 9 on the road isn’t a picnic either when playing that many games. But we are pretty much in the same boat as miami right now. We have nothing to prove in the regular season, and this is all just and extended prelude to the playoffs.
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Jan 16, 2012 8:54 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I still want the number 1 seed
It’s simply an easier path to the ECF, and home court advantage is always welcome.
Very nice take.
All good points, too. This team has not peaked yet.
by DisCUBbobulated on Jan 16, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
Noah has put up two straight good games against pretty bad offensive players.
Gasol is a guy who can actually get the ball in the post and score and muscle him out for rebounds. So let’s see if the trend can continue and we can stop making caveats for the frontcourt every other day.
bulls have seemed to struggle in really early games
At least thats my impression. Considering the schedule it would not surprise me or worry me if we lost this one. This stretch is just brutal. I hope CJ can come back today, thatd be huge.
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by anorexorcist on Jan 16, 2012 9:01 AM CST via mobile reply actions
What channel is this on today?
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
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by dantheman3k on Jan 16, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
Why Memphis?
The National Civil Rights Museum is in Memphis. I think the game is more a recognition of that than of Dr. King, specifically.
Might be just to heal faster but
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DRose back in his walking boot as he enters arena. Thibodeau will update injuries shortly. #Bulls
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 16, 2012 10:26 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
maybe it's just due to the plane travel?
that’s a thing, right?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 16, 2012 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
well since i assume it didn't just heal already
not necessarily surprised they’re being as careful as possible. i’d be surprised if he doesn’t play.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
more
KCJHoop K.C Johnson
Thibodeau said he’s planning on DRose playing vs. Grizzlies, however there is chance he won’t. Had minor setback. #Bulls
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 16, 2012 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
Aggrey Sam is less optmistic
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Derrick is a gametime decision. Seems doubtful that he’ll play
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 16, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
Rose might not play today.
Thibodeau said he’s planning on DRose playing vs. Grizzlies, however there is chance he won’t. Had minor setback. #Bulls
even if he can play
I wouldn’t call him ready
He will probably be out of rhythm
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 16, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
latest on him was Tuesday at the earliest
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bulls/2012/01/watson_may_not_return_until_tu.html
basically, Thibs wants a shootaround or practice before CJ plays, and they haven’t had one.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 16, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
yup, latest on him was Friday.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/10012258-419/derrick-rose-says-sprained-toe-isnt-an-issue.html
(look at me, linking the Sun-Times!)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 16, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
throw a coin
CSNBullsInsider Aggrey Sam
CJ: “50-50” on whether he plays
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 16, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
Seems like it John Lucas time again
CSNBullsInsider Aggrey Sam
Derrick says he’ll test out his toe in warmups, confer with Bulls trainers afterwards. Admitted it hurts, sinuses don’t help matters
CSNBullsInsider Aggrey Sam
He wasn’t overly optimistic, fact that he’s back in Memphis makes it more disappointing
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 16, 2012 11:02 AM CST reply actions
ya know, the minor setback could've been Thibsball
Rose played the whole 2nd half against Toronto. They had a 13-15 point lead for the final 6 minutes.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 16, 2012 11:03 AM CST reply actions
Hmmm
Some beat writer should ask him about it KC should write a story about how injuries are going to happen this season, or something…
"superstars get injuries, get used to it"
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 16, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah I remember he left to the locker limping
tho I can’t remember if it was in the halftime or at the end of the game
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 16, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
Thibs must have watch KC Jones coach the Celtics in the 80
Because KC was infamous for playing his starters late in the 4th quarter despite big leads.
okay. Rose is probably not gonna play. what a bummer! On a night that i placed a bet and Rose is not playing!
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Rose probably shouldn't be playing but want to because it's Memphis and all
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 16, 2012 11:09 AM CST reply actions
Rip Hamilton advised he push through it for the revenge.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 16, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
Wouldn't he have to go to Kansas for revenge?
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 16, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
I think the msg is: revenge or not
deciding on emotions is bad.
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 16, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
And don't expect Rose to rest after the season is over either
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 16, 2012 11:10 AM CST reply actions
I was just going to post this
hurray for year-round basketball…
by BULLieving in Miami on Jan 16, 2012 11:14 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
almost glad Rose is out today...
Memphis out going to come out gangbusters and will be playing very, very physical… they want to erase the taste of that blow-out, so better to let Rose sit out and let this game go to the wind…
thankfully, Conley is a small guard and it should be a little easier for Lucas to stay with him…
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 16, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
But... what about the crazy groin?!
@CSNBullsInsider Aggrey Sam
Rip launching shots from out of bounds
more toe
KCJHoop K.C Johnson
DRose on toe: “Almost every game, I jam it. By the way that I play and push off, it hurts.” I’d guess he’s out but nothing official. #Bulls
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 16, 2012 11:33 AM CST reply actions
I remember last year when he had a premier with his new Adidas
and twisted his ankle with the new shoes.
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 16, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
aaaaand...
KCJHoop K.C Johnson
Rose is out. CJ will try to play. Rip is out. #Bulls
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 16, 2012 11:39 AM CST reply actions
hopefully Deng has a huge game.
defense, like usual, is gonna have to win this one.
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 16, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
haha let's cross our fingers
what we’re gonna have to hope for is Deng/Booz/Noah have good to great games and hope Korver can get hot behind the arc. and of course play that tough Chicago defense like usual
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 16, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
yep, I remember that. good call
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 16, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
usually when Rose is in, I have a pretty good feeling about winning, but today I dont.
We could beat the awful Wizards without him, but against a decent Grizzlies team, no way.
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why wouldnt CJ start if Rose is out? so what if he's been out for awhile, he cant be worse than midget boy.
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Midget man.
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by THEKILLERWHALE on Jan 16, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
cause they're not sure he can even play?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 16, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
well, that he can play and stay playing
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 16, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
I was half joking
but I still think we have a good shot at winning today. Booz and Deng will have to pick up the scoring load a bit but no Rose doesn’t mean the Bulls still can’t play well.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 16, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
CJ will be like
Screw everything! If John Lucas can shoot 28 FG I’m shooting 40!
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 16, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
ugh
"Before the game, we all thought he’d get 20 (points)," Chicago’s Kyle Korver said. "We didn’t know he’d shoot 28." - speaking about JLIII
i say sit Rose until he is 100%
we don’t need to turn this into a year long thing. Sit him tonight and tomorrow, see how he feels on Thursday.
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 16, 2012 11:49 AM CST reply actions
Thibs wants to coach that all-star game
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 16, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
he will bench LeBron for Taj in the 4th
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 16, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
Whoever voted "The White Mamba" into the All-Star game needs to be shot.
And Thibs said, Let there be three's, and Deng shot threes
And Deng saw the three's, that they were good
And didn't shoot long two's anymore
by windycitywarrior on Jan 16, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions

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