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Why Derrick Rose Will Repeat As League MVP

This upcoming season (assuming their is one) might be Derrick Rose's best chance to win a back to back Most Valuable Player award while still playing in an era of 'in their prime' LeBron James and Dwyane Wade. When they are both gone (Wade won't last into his mid-30s in my opinion and who knows how long LeRod will want to put up with the constant scrutiny) who knows how easy (or difficult) it will be for Derrick considering the mystery behind what the talent will be like when he is 27 or 28 years old. For now here is why I think Derrick has a great shot to repeat right now.

- The Potentially Shortened Season.

One thing about Rose being the youngest MVP ever is that he had to carry a team with lacking offense and often injured key players. Because of this perhaps no one in the league worked harder for victories game after game than Rose. As a result, it was obvious when his legs were tired and when they were not. Using his 3-point shot as an example, the Bulls played 11 Tuesday games this regular season and 8 of those were when their last game was on a Saturday. Derrick was a poor 3 point shooter 5 days of the week, but on Saturdays he shot 37% from 3 and on Tuesdays he was a whopping 48% on his 3 point shot. Clearly having fresh legs meant everything. I would talk about his 41% from 3 on three+ days rest, but that is a very small sample size (not to mention his overall FG% was the same O.o.) It is only natural that a player plays better rested and I am sure that one of the things he will work on this off season is his conditioning. The dead legs he had throughout the Eastern Conference Finals had to have bothered him. Partner that with, say a 50 game season and we could see a rested and full-throttle DRose.

- Sizing Up the Competition.

Going through our usual suspects first, LeBron James will likely never win the award again unless everyone else falls off, his numbers truly approach the triple-double average and the Heat win the top spot in their conference. Is this fair? Not at all, but voters are humans; many of which who feel the same way about James as the rest of us. His 4th quarter disappearing acts in the Finals did not help his case either even though it has nothing to do with the regular season. Don't think that voters will not take those kind of unrelated matters into consideration. 

Kobe's knees are so bad that he could not even practice last year. While able to still play at an All-Star level, you could not convince me in any capacity that Paul Gasol is not the most important player on that Lakers roster. Wade will never win it as long as he's stuck playing with James who most believe is the better player. Dirk Nowitzki is always in the picture and seeing as the Derrick Rose Story has already been used it will not be a weapon at Derrick's dispostal to fend off his likely challengers. Dwight Howard's team will not be good enough for people to vote him the MVP. Same for Blake Griffin (his defense won't help either.) This could be a two-man race between Rose and Kevin Durant. The Thunder could very well end up being the best team in the West next season and if that's the case I think he's Derrick's biggest threat. Fresh legs will benefit him as well those he does not get a lot of elevation on his jump shot anyway. 

- Rose's Offseason Work

There are two things we know Derrick wants to work on; his conditioning and his post game. Some on BaB are convinced that the post game is the final piece to the offensive puzzle that will complete Rose's game (aside from the things that only experience can teach.) I would personally rather have him call up John Stockton and have him give the same kind of pointers he gave to Deron Williams after his rookie year that transformed him into one of the top assist men in the league. I would also prefer he spend the summer with Joakim Noah and Carlos Boozer working on 101 Pick and Roll plays. Still, I cannot complain about him wanting to get a post game. He has heard the myriad complaints about LeRod's unwillingness to add that aspect of his offense and make him unstoppable on that end. And being a Chicago boy, even if he was too young to enjoy Michael Jordan at his finest, he had to have seen enough video to know that above all else Jordan was absolutely dominant in the post (Kobe has been pretty darn good too.) He already has magnificent touch around the rim and a size and strength advantage over the average point guard. Adding this type of offense will lead to more easy scores and open up the team offense in a new way. Can you trap a guard who is positioned in the post instead of at the top of the key? How quickly can you rotate when/if he kicks it out to Korver on the wing or Deng in the corner? What if Jo, Deng, Brewer or Butler cuts to the basket while you send help? In a way, Derrick's passing game will improve as well.

- The ECF Failure Left a Bitter Taste In His Mouth

I do not believe that we had anything to worry about in regards to Rose losing motivation after winning an MVP. Has he given us any reason to believe that he would be satisfied so easily? Still, the 5 game defeat against Miami not long ago had to have hurt. The Baron Davis-like shooting percentages in the post season could not have left him feeling good. Seeing as his team is now a championship contender and not just lucky to get into the playoffs, I cannot imagine Derrick Rose having ever been more motivated in his life to work hard and win a championship. He will not have to deal with FIBA (the experience did help, but he never got a proper off season rest.) He can concentrate solely on improving his game while staying home. 

The MVP is up for grabs every year because their is no Michael Jordan in this era. One guys is too old, another too scared and everyone else is as young as our guy (aside from Dirk. Curse you, Dirk.) However, the right off-season signing (new shooting guard) and the right off-season workouts could make Rose an MVP once again. Of course, I would rather have him be the Finals MVP and that remains a possibility as well.

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great read

i totally agree with the stockton part. ask him a few pointers on how to successfully run a PnR (which i think he struggled with at times). i also wish he would throw in some defensive sessions with gary payton… hey couldn’t hurt right?

the conditioning you’re talking about will also be alleviated once the bulls get that SG that can score and create his own offense so that derrick doesn’t have to do everything for 38 mins a game. i feel like that is one of the reasons lebron failed so misreably in the 2 postseasons prior to this one… he was just having to do too much for his teams and eventually just ran out of gas when the D stepped up another level.

by grabmesomeBOOZ on Jun 26, 2011 11:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Bring in Jerry Sloan...

….as an offensive consultant.

Thibs was hired to run the defense in Boston; certainly he wouldn’t be too egocentric to allow a purely offensive mind on his staff?

I know, it’s a dream.

by Sweetness Lives On on Jun 26, 2011 11:07 AM CDT reply actions  

that would be ironic

since the friction between kerr and d’antoni began with the suggestion of thibs or a thibs type defensive assistant coach.

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by marionette on Jun 26, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rose got his, and I could really care less if he does again.

But it was a great read, and I don’t think the season will be shortened (fingers crossed).

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 26, 2011 1:06 PM CDT reply actions  

It was fun to get the MVP this year

But now all I want is championship

LET'S GO BULLS!!!

by JustAnotherFan on Jun 26, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of which, I want D-Rose to score some hot, sexy Hollywood A-Lister

they would make a cute power couple. Taylor Swift and the likes. LOL.

My name is EARL

by Juan dela Cruz on Jun 27, 2011 3:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't want him to do anything of the sort.

I want him to have a nice humble girl.

How does one practice consistency? Take lots of Benefiber?
by WearShades on May 31, 2011 6:37 AM PDT

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jun 27, 2011 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

NO

If he gets someone like that she will corrupt him. Look how mentally screwed up, trashy, diseased and arrogant Star Jones made D-Wade.

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by anorexorcist on Jun 28, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

You make some good points.

Rose will presumably be better at 23 than he was at 22. That same jump is unlikely to happen for older players. But a great deal depends on the Bulls’ regular season record; anything less than best in the league would be a step down, and that’s a high standard to meet. Also, what if Rose misses significant time to an injury? That could knock him out of the competition. And of course voters are reluctant to give the MVP award to the same person two years in a row — although it happened with Nash.

So if not Rose, who? Well, what if Nowitzki is healthy next year and the Mavs get 60 wins? What if the Heat finish with the best record in the league?

by Tim S. on Jun 26, 2011 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

What if Durant has the season everyone expected him to have this year?

What if Chris Paul is perfectly healthy and gets the Hornets in the high 50s in wins?
What if Dwight Howard has another career year and the Magic sweep the season series with the Heat?
What if the Clippers are surprisingly good, win 50 games, and Griffin stays electric?
What if the Warriors trade Ellis and Curry goes off?
What if Tyrus Thomas finally becomes Shawn Kemp, takes the Bobcats to 60 wins, and gets MJ’s endorsement in the media?

(OK, maybe not that last one.)

by arjoseph on Jun 29, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

depends on how the team win their games this year

last year, he truly deserved the MVP last year because the team always needed him. 40 percent of the plays ran thru Rose, but with a SG I do hope that number goes down by at least 10 percent. Yeah, I know Rose is not the only player to stop on the bulls but when it comes to playoff time, close and tight games will rely on Rose’e ability to take over the game 99.9 percent of the time. Without the right SG, it was difficult, but with the right SG, you can forget about the walled defense that the heat played against the bulls.

Overall, i expect Rose not to develop a post up game by now, but improve his 3 shot. if he does develop a post up game, then hell just add another dimension to his offensive game and become a bit more dangerous than Wade or LeBron. Reason I say that is because just look at MJ when he utilized that postup game more often within the 90s.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 26, 2011 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

One thing I'd like to ask

is how much of a difference a post game would bring to Rose’s game. He usually faces big defenders and double teams, would a post game really be that effective against these situations? he can already crush most point guards one on one. Maybe he should get his mid range game back and work on the pick and roll.

Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.

by hedonism bot on Jun 26, 2011 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

The post game can also preserve Rose's health and stamina.

Statistically, it would probably be better for Rose to drive and draw a foul on every play. But no one has the stamina to do that, and every time he does it he risks an injury. Plus, if he has a sprain or anything wrong with his body, as I think he did after the Indiana series, it limits his ability to pull off these athletic plays.

Rose has the size and strength to back down pretty much all of the point guards in the league, and many 2-guards as well. And if he demands a double team, then he can dish it to the perimeter or to a driving player. It’s another weapon in his arsenal, and one that can save his body a lot of wear and tear.

Finally, working the ball inside out opens up the players on the perimeter. We still hope to do that with Boozer, but it would be great to have a second option as well.

Now maybe, at this point in his career, it’s more important for Rose to develop his 3-point shooting, his passing, his use of screens, etc. Because he is young and athletic, there is so much he can do to improve on an already great game, it’s hard to choose. But at some point in his career Rose, like Kobe and Jordan before him, will want a post game. Maybe it shouldn’t be the highest priority right now, but I don’t think it is too early to start working on it, especially considering the extent to which the Bulls rely on him on offense.

by Tim S. on Jun 27, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

drawing multiple hard fouls is what basically ended iversons career

and soon it will be kobe and wade. you gotta be smart with your body and rose maintains control of his body throughout contact. Rose may not draw alot of fouls and thats because of his ability not to react to the contact he gets every fuckin time he drives in. plus, rose will elongate his career with a solid 3 pt shot and improved mid range jump shot. postup moves would be icing on the cake, right now MASTER THE FUCKIN JUMPER!!!

by Geo4MVP on Jun 27, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

You still need someone

To handle the ball and make plays to be able to get it to rose in a position where he can post. Currently he’s the Bulls only viable ball handler. I’d rather have a S. Jax type 2 guard that can post and let D Rose give it to him.

That or Boozo can actually learn a post move above a weak fall away. Likely it will have to be Noah that steps up. Don’t see any way for the Bulls to make Rose a post threat. Bulls don’t run a triangle, and don’t have an alternative ball handler to get him the ball.

by Vuke on Jun 27, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

thats not true at all

rose has the handles and quickness to get opponenets to start backing down when he just puts the ball down, they will antiicipate the drive and start going a bit back, when hes within 20 feet he can just turn his little iso dribble into a crab dribble and start posting the guy down to 15 feet. I think thats as far as rose needs to be in order to be effective in the high post.

Chauncey, gary peyton, even a twig like sam cassell, all were good pg post players, and never needed anyone to set them up, they would just try to get their man off dribble force him to backup and then just turn their back on them when they got them to back up enough and just use whatever moves they had available.

While i think rose’s post move can help the team as well as himself, like Tim S. said, its more of a move that rose can use to get a bit more efficient shots when his stamina to drive is failing him and is more a skill to help him score.

if you go to the 2:45 mark you can see what i think rose will look like when posting up this year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcSoL9iCM90

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by piccolomair on Jun 27, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

And I cant almost hear that doubters from here, "69 wins lololol?!"

Yeah. We could reach around 69 wins. Flashback to how good we were this year when we had both Noah and Boozer on the floor and with actual production from our 2 guard.

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by Sir Buckets on Jun 26, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hope you are right

But what if this past year was the best we will see out of this group? What if Noah misses time every year, like he has been? What about Boozer? He is just as bad. I would bet that the two would play together less than 60% of the games together through Boozers contract between all the missed time due to injuries. Is Deng all better now? Are his seemingly yearly injuries gone with one fantastic year? Him and Noah are the cores of our first unit’s defense and they are both fragile. And this defense is a little overrated. It is a great scheme but we only have one guy that is a real good man defender in Brewer. Though I am pretty sure within three years Rose will put in the work and be in the mix yearly for DPOY.
We do not have any upgrade at SG and there is no guarantee we will get one.
They will win 50 games every year due to the relentless way they play all year and good defense. But things have to go perfectly to come near 70 wins.

by metalkiwis on Jun 28, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a little premature, don't you think?

But if we’re gonna play this game, I’ll go out on a limb and pick Chris Paul.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Jun 26, 2011 4:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Paul needs to be on a better team

No one is going to give MVP to a 7 seed

by tuluse on Jun 26, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

he also needs to score more

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by Trey23 on Jun 27, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Either way

I would like to see him up his usg because he’s way more efficient than his teammates, but if he got teammates where he didn’t need to, I could see him winning MVP.

by tuluse on Jun 27, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Nowiski is going to get a Lifetime Achievement MVP award next year...

As long as he stays healthy, the Mavs are a top 2 seed, and nobody else is a runaway choice, it’ll basically be his to lose. And, quite frankly, he deserves it. Heck, I thought he deserved it this year (yes, over DR). But if the season’s shortened, the voters will have Dirk hoisting the Larry Brown and the Finals MVP trophy at the same time on their minds, and that’ll be enough to propel him to the award.

DRose in 2013, though. That’s a given.

by Doshi on Jun 26, 2011 6:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I was going to make a fanpost of this but I'll just post it here,

The one thing Derick needs to improve and would take his game to the next level is his awareness. Too many times he goes for the difficult layup over 2-3 guys instead dropping it off to a teammate. Granted he makes the layup a lot of the time. Defenses, especially in the playoffs were 100% concentrated on contesting his shot attempt, and were not concerned with Derrick hurting them with the pass. If he ever learns how to use his athleticism and ability to get into the paint at will to set-up his teammates, its over for the rest of league. Here’s some examples of what I’m talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvXU-0kqouU

Derrick goes 1 on 2 on the fastbreak, both defenders go for the shotblock, Derrick misses both Joakim and Deng for an easy dunk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfZXBO-VoOE

Here he get’s into the paint, has 3 guys around him and tries to finish over Joel Anthony and misses Joakim and Boozer rolling to the hoop for an easy bucket or atleast a trip to the line

Here’s a couple more examples
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq3JjDMYyxc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhX7DAgSgkM&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Derrick does shoot too much. Not because he’s selfish, but because he just doesn’t have a great feel for finding open teammates or creating looks for other guys when he drives. People say we lost to the heat because Derrick didn’t have enough help, but I think we also lost because Derrick didn’t know how to help himself. He couldn’t make the Heat pay for over helping and over committing to him. If he ever figures this out, he will be virtually unstoppable because not only will he be dangerous, but he will make his teammates dangerous as well.

by 5liv4 on Jun 26, 2011 6:41 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

How does one practice this skill?

It’s hard to work on it alone in a gym, or with people who are not teammates. I think it would help to watch tape, but it might help even more to create some offensive plays so Rose doesn’t always have to improvise. And then the team needs to practice those plays together — but it may be a while before that happens.

by Tim S. on Jun 27, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I could care less if he wins another MVP

that was his goal last season. You can cross that out from his “Bucket List”. What I want to hear from him is that he wants to win a championship via his “Why cant we win a championship” on media day.

My name is EARL

by Juan dela Cruz on Jun 26, 2011 6:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree.

i’d rather see him win nba finals mvp.
personally i think that’s harder that says a lot more than just regular season MVP.

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by panduh on Jun 26, 2011 10:16 PM CDT reply actions  

rose will become a more efficient player and once again suprise the league why hes the MVP

i want him to cut odnw on his shot attempts (become a bit mroe selective) ONCE the bulls get a new SG. im sure he will become more efficient but at time same time i expect him to have an improved 3 shot plus maybe one postup move. nonetheless, just improving his 3 pt shot will make him once again a MVP candidate.

by Geo4MVP on Jun 27, 2011 9:40 AM CDT reply actions  

MVP's are nice

But my main wish is that he gets his 3 point shooting closer to 40% during the playoffs.

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by RogersPark Kris on Jun 27, 2011 11:48 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

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